Play This, Not That, On The Blues | You'll Hear It
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There's a lot of questions surrounding the blues... Adam Maness and Peter Martin are here to set the record straight on what to play, and what not to play for the blues.
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Pete plays something super hip and he's like "don't play that". And I'm here thinking, no problem, I could never play that.
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"Be yourself, and let the blues take care of itself." what a great quote
Great episode! I love the Oscar Peterson advice. As piano players we don't have a lot of heroes when it comes to rock blues. I learned to do two good "dos": listen to blues guitar players for the language, like jazz pianists listen to sax and trumpet players for the language. And master the major pentatonic for blues. You'll hear these guitarists totally shred the maj. pent. with added flat thirds and sevenths. You guys rock!
if you do a stride one i’ll cry tears of joy
I also would certainly shed a few tears
Gene Harris (The Three Sounds) is the blues piano master, great touch, great time management. Also great: Ramsey Lewis (sixties, early seventies) best "double stuff", Ray Bryant, Bobby Timmons, Lennie Tristanos "Requiem" is killer, Joe Zawinul on Cannonballs "Babe" - legendary solo, Joe Sample (Crusaders), some Richard Tee (Stuff), Monty Alexander (Montreux), Milt Jackson, Les McCann (sixites), Jimmy Smith, Jimmy McGriff ("The Blues Train to Georgia"), John Lewis, Red Garland, some Cedar Walton, Hampton Hawes, Kenny Barron, Thommy Flanagan, George Duke . "New Day" on youtube live by Kevin Hays is good. Guys who emended the Blues very sophisticated are Dan Wall, Paul Bley, Bob Degen, Jan Hammer (with Jeremy Steig). Jarrett is so so on his late blues encores, but very good in the seventies, early eighties when he combines blues with gospel-like style. Of course Herbie and Oscar are great. On the saxophone Stanley Turrentine is a very good bluesman. On the trumpet Clark Terry. I'm sure I forgot many.. For specific song recommendations, just write, I'm glad to give some tips.
Some Jarrett gospel stuff name?
@@jeanlandim In many solo concerts, there are blues-gospel-like passages. Not so much in the Koeln or Sunbear Concerts but in Lausanne/Bremen and in may bootlegs on youtube, for example here th-cam.com/video/-KPBemwbpWE/w-d-xo.html form 50:40 to 53:30. Great feel, subtle dynamics, recording qualitiy also good. Or here: th-cam.com/video/G-TpD-GMbxE/w-d-xo.html from 51:51 to 59min very pumpy groove, much more power than his late concerts. The pick-up-part 58.17 is excellent and pure blues.
One thing that is really implied here is that different genres have identifiable riffs and licks. The extension to that is that, if a player wants to change the feel of a blues, or hint at a different style, reaching out to the riffs of that feel are the way to make that happen. I am at the stage where I'm wanting to take the music to a different genre, and am trying to work out how to really lead a section, in the moment, to a new style. Watching this was really useful for me.
At 10:25 they said I love number 5 at the same time. Music creates connections...you guys are amazing! Jazz is the ultimate truly American cultural legacy not derived from consumerism.
This is the realest shit I ever heard
I play "Not That" a lot :(
thats what my lecturers tell me
Ah yes, my favourite 32 bar AABA American Songbook standard.
We all do 😢
Peter can kill it on the blues. Love it.
your videos always show me how much more there is that i can learn. I can’t believe they’re free!! Thank you
and you guys are hilarious
Amazing! I love these. I started out as a bassist but in the last year, especially since quarantine began in March I've switched 95% of my practice time and interest to piano. I've always loved it but for some reason it never occurred to me to play earlier. I've been wanting to work on my blues playing but it's hard because piano blues I find is either blues rock type repetitive stuff or really insane jazz blues. So finding what exactly I should be doing to make my playing as authentic as possible has been a bit of a journey, but I cant thank you guys enough for these podcasts!
Thanks, fellas ... very instructive ... in terms of repetition of motifs, I recommend Wynton Marsalis’ blues tutorial ... he talks about the blues 12 bar form as statement, response, and resolution ... that has also helped me a lot to try and tell a story and avoid wandering, disconnected lines ... thanks again ... L
I watched that, listening to Wynton explain things like he's teaching a grandkid about the blues is great for players of all different levels of experience. Great recommendation.
When you're plyaing the MINOR blues scale, stay on the one blues scale.. but when you're playing with MAJOR blues, definitely change with each chord.
THAT COORDINATED " I LOVE NUMBER 5" @10:22
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I 💕 you guys 😊 What a treat! There's a difference between a piece of music and...the process the music is being created and... could be observed by other musicians.
Open Studio rules.🍒😘
Really great video. Hope to see more like this!
Gents, that was insightful, honest and plain 'ol good fun. Now that's what I call good time blues.
Y'all are so dorky. You crack me up. Thank you
The rythm thing is soooooo important...could you a video on how to practice rythm. Would be much appreciated. Keep th good things coming guis
Great stuff. I play saxophone and this all applies. Thanks.
13:30, dang I've never seen someone emulate my blues so well 😭
Hell I wish that was me!
This is what you get when your band teacher flexes modal theory in order to tell you that a single pentatonic scale works for every chord change, and then absolutely nothing else.
After watching this, it feels like a musical facelift to me - you're awesome!
before i even watch this - here's a (very) simple but huge tip.... after playing blues for nearly 50 years... when improvising : on the I chord (so, 1st 4 bars) play/resolve licks w Major 3rds (so E naturals in the key of C)... ;... on the IV chord (or 5 & 6 bars) play ZERO/ nope/ nada E naturals but instead -plenty of minor 3rds(so, Eb /E Flats.).. on bars 7-8 return to going hard on the E naturals .... 🎹
Faith comes by hearing. Great video guys!
Excellent guidance. Thanks
I understand on a certain level what you guys are sharing in all of your videos focused on linear solo ideas utilizing different scales. It's all great and your explanations make sense to me.
Now I'm wondering about fingering basics when going 'uphill' or 'downhill' while combining scale motion with chord tones or broken chords while going up or down a few octaves.
Is there something basic help me break out of what ever kind of hard-wired fingering approach I'm stuck on? More cross-overs and cross-unders is my first thought,
but...clearly I don't even know enough to ask an educated question.
maybe if I just slow the video down when overhead shots come around?
(having said that....some of Peter's overhead shots in his 2-minute lessons are so
well-lit , combined with his smooth technique ...even that can be a little difficult to see)
Anyway....thanks for all you do!
Lol. " if you don't like the blues I'm not really even interested in what you have to say!" That's gold. Love it mon.
I still come back to this video sometimes just because it's hilarious
You guys did a fantastic job playing here!
I really love Peter's blues musicality
I dig that bottle of Jim Bean in the back as your playing the Blues
You guys are just so great!
Truly
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Thanks for the advice and concrete examples. I've been guilty of playing some of that NOT THAT. I'll work more on PLAY THIS.
You blessed guys are so freaking funny! Thanks for the vid!
You talked about Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker, Oscar Peterson, and Keith Jarrett------ but if you really want to hear how to play the blues on a keyboard we must also add ----- Jimmy Smith! Jimmy Smith!
So much good advice.
Re blues guitar double & triple stops with hammer ons - the two great masters were Hendrix & SRV - there's a real wealth still to be mined by keyboard players there imho.
There are a couple of Steve Vai tracks which take thier ideas further too....
Yes!! Plz more open discussion format. This was amazing, thanks guys!
Can you guy’s give us, the viewers a list of a blues players we should hear? Love your podcasts!
No mention of Wynton Kelly? It would be great
Great advice, Adam and Peter, about being yourself rather than some fake notion of what an old blues player ought to be.
My blues piano challenge is that it's technically sloppy, though I hope rhythmically in the pocket or at least avoiding the RAC. Hey, I'm just a bass player starting to pick up keys, figuring out which buttons are which while trying not to make a bass face. ;-)
Cheers!
I would love a video on how to use the 3-6-2-5-1 (both minor and major version) in tasty ways!
This is getting deep. Being true to the form of the blues by being yourself and not trying to sound like an old blues player. This is some yoda level shit. "There is no try, only do"
super fun to watch, informative
This was awesome. Thank you
PLEEEAAAASE DO ANOTHER ONEEEE
Very helpful discussion.
Man these are such an incredible resource!!!!
You guys are great!
3:29 Immediately the 1st example here proves a major takeaway: You can take basically any concept you like and make it work in it's own ways... if you've got the insights needed to arrive somewhere cool with it. Furthermore, try messing around with new blues scales on every chord and see if you find things you like, can always apply it in moderation if you're trying to nail a sound with little twists in there to make it interesting.
Great video! Amazing vibes for this Wednesday! 😎🎶🎹
Loved this! ❤
This is great! Can’t wait for more
Must admit I haven't checked out all of your blues sessions . However , I wondered if this could be the subject for a future video . That is , to look at the ways to take a blues away from the repetitious harmonic cycle perhaps by incorporating segments of ballad type harmonies . This approach when done well seems to get the blues out of the straitjacket and frees it up to be soulful but a bit more stimulating .
Playing this at half speed and stealing as many throw-away Peter Martin licks as I can follow. Goldmine!
Do you allready got them and would send it to me?
Sorry dfx3, if that is your real name. Just watch Peter in slow-mo. Good luck.
@@xXS4leagueDragonXx You can do it by listening and watching -- the blues is a great place to start doing this. You'll be incredibly glad you did it once you get going, trust me! Every time you figure out a new couple of notes, you'll have a whole new thing you can play over the blues!
so to sum up the video, "don't play blues, play jazz, for no particular reason at all"
I loved this video!
Gene Harris was always my "go to "bluesiest jazz pianist.
At the maybeck!!!
What about otis spann? He is my favorite blues piano player...❤❤❤
GOOD EPISODE. More pls
What about Jimmy Smith? Love this channel (and the JB in the background). Thank you guys!
Awesome! 👏👏👏👏👏
all good advice- I also try to incorporate blues vocab from actual "blues" musicians - BB King, Albert Collins, Buddy Guy, even SRV and Hendrix-list goes on......
great episode!
What's up with the pint of whiskey behind Peter? LOL
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That's apple juice
I'M A BELIEVER-And get off BEFORE The Last Train To Clarkeville.
B B king of the BLUES
this is so funny! As a classical trained pianist, I don't even understand what you're talking about :D :D :D
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it's about good taste vs banality, great tips guys!
This video summarised, "Context is king"
for real
I was surprised when you suggested to play one pentatonic scale through all 3 dominant chords of the blues. In my view you have to play major penta on the I, then minor penta on the IV, then the minor penta of the V ( or something else ). Am I wrong ?
Hhahaha “the block chord blues” 🤘
Who's playing the drums in your background jazz spot, he's awesome! If I want to listen to the entire music and more of this jazz style, where can I go?
7:36-7:37 Funny you mentioned Herbie after Oscar since Herbie credited Oscar Peterson as a formative influence on his improvising
8:16 "dont always do that!!".... i cant do that
2:21 op!
21:01 my name is not bernie sanders, but i approve this message.
"I can't play these triplets and look at my hands, I think they're ashamed of me . . ." best quote ever.
This great. Yes, The Monkeys were a fake band. However, they did use some good song writers. Before he became famous, Neil Diamond wrote "Last Train to Clarksville" for them.
Keep up the wonderful work.
Well, you basically called out almost everything Bruce Katz does, but honestly he is a master and his blues style is so lush and unique. It demonstrates what you can do with the stuff you called out. But I do get that the perspective here is jazz-blues oriented.
Good call on Bruce Katz! Saw him so much with Ronnie Earl back in the day and a bunch of gigs with his own band. That guy knows evey kind of blues!
@@russelldougherty3054 the guy is massive!
😂😂😂Peter with the Bugs Bunny: “My momma done told me….”😂😂😂
Dont' know if I have improved my blues but now I want a Jim Beam Sour
I need to start learning bebop
12:10 nice
Every time I hear the intro song I gotta stop the video and go listen to it
u guys are ,..... out of this world
Play Peter Martin Elements of jazz you won't go wrong
I think Ray Charles is rarely mentioned. Check out the album he did with Milt Jackson
Damn the "don't play this" at 13:00 sounds sadly familiar... Got to shed some blues
“Me no likey” haha 😂
This intro's lick..
Awesome video! Harsh reality check but that's good, right? Btw what's the theme tune at the beginning and end? Omg, I need that badboy in my life...
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Don’t mind me, just transcribing 😊
:P I loved that line too.
lol @ OP @ 5:05 in reunion blues on Very Tall
Where are you guys getting your piano & rhodes sounds from? Is it straight from the keyboards you’re using here? Or vst?
Go full Ray Charles. Works 100%.
Guys, new to the channel and like it so far. I salute your choice of Satchmo, Bird and Mr. Peterson, but I'm surprised you could not come up with a guitarist for inspiration. The blues were born, baptized and raised on the guitar. Comments are invited. Would love to hear counter arguments.
It's because they're talking about jazz blues not blues blues
20:41 When my dog sings the blues!!😅😂
Is the sound coming from the keyboards or are they using a vst? anyone know from what?
As Adam Neely says, “repetition legitimizes”!
repetition legitimizes
@@patrickgallagher1161 repetition legitimizes
@Patrick Gallagher @@starrybenchstudios repetition legitimizes
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