Brilliant video as always. Im lucky enough to have a drive, so i use Octopus, £0.07p per unit over night, i have a tesla (weekends) and an ID buzz for work. No road tax, no ulez and most importantly they’re sooo nice to drive . As you say Martin, it won’t work for everyone, but if you can, you really should!
I had no problem charging my 2023 Mini Cooper SE in 15-20 minutes from 10% to 80% using Ionity/Tesla Supercharger at a cost of £5-£10, and that was in the coldest of winters. Now in the summer, it charges in 12-15 minutes. I did run out of charge in Dec 2023 but I was quite surprised that I could drive an extra 30 miles at 30mph until the flatbed of shame was called in. Even then, we didn't think it would start up to drive on to the flatbed but it did, and the same again reversing from the flatbed into a public charger. Amazing car.
NIce overview. If I was an unconvinced ICE driver id say "jeez thats a lot of hassle always thinking about charging even if its easy" I met some nurses at a charger who had this car. It was a company (NHS) car and they said they hated it because they drove around all day visiting people at home and they said they were always stopping to charge it. So it depends on your use case. In your case, not having a home charger, id have chosen something with much longer range because charging would be more infrequent. There are MG's (for example) similar size and price but double the range. Ive been driving an EV for 7 years now and would now never get one with anything below about 280 miles, thats the minimum for me it means public charging is rare and winter range is still 250 or so. I do a 200 mile (return) trip once every couple of months so 250 in winter(down froma sumemr 280+) means i dont need to charge ever on that journey even in very cold and rainy weather where if i put my foot down i still get back home with 20 miles.
I've been driving a (used) Ioniq 28 for 3 years and wouldn't change it for a larger battery as there would be very little benefit, for me. It charges at home the vast amount of time. When I go on a trip I charge every 100-120 miles and it takes 15 minutes to charge. A larger battery car would be considerably more expensive to buy and nowhere near as efficient (I've averaged 5.2mi/kWh over 20,000 miles) so would cost me a lot more to run!
@@FFVoyagerinteresting you say about a larger battery being less efficient, I have a 3 year average of 5 m/kwh also with a Tesla 3 Lr so it is possible if you have a good car and know how to be efficient!
@@cliveharrington1553 I don't think large batteries are intrinsically 'less efficient' but the ones I've looked at are! You are very much on the outside of the Model 3 LR use case. Certainly when compared back to back the LFP battery in the post 2021 RWD Model 3 gets close to the efficiency of the classic Ioniq but has not beaten it - yet (it goes a lot further on one charge though!) It will be interesting to see if anyone does a test with the Ioniq new 'Highland' iteration of the Model 3, I think it could be the new 'king' of efficiency....
Another great video, but have never been able to successfully charge at Ikea by the Dome (have now tried 5 times), gridserve was either over-occupied or faulty. Ubitrcity is the best lamp post in London. would like to see you compare the other lamp posts in London as some of them are an utter nightmare, a few of them even stop charging after something like 20 mins (pod point old wall charger, bigger posts have always worked)but there is 1 company that is more in the Hammersmith area where the app is just garbage and fails to register or take payment. I do agree that compared to 3 years ago it is much easier than it used to be.
I have a 120Ah BMW i3. My daily commute is around 5 miles to go to work in the night and back in the morning. I ussually charge at my ''weekend'' at 9.5p, but as I live in a rented house I don't have a type 2 charger. So I charge at 6A with the nanny's cable.I don't want to push the plug at the limit, so I get 10Kwh twice every week. That's enough if I don't have to go anywhere on my weekends. If I have to go for a journey in my weekend, I am very lucky that I can charge at work for 20p/Kwh and I have it full on Fridays so I can use it next day. I have it one year and I never had a problem charging, travelling, I didn't wait a sec to charge on the road and till now I don't regret that I bought that car.
in 2014 we ran a Nissan Leaf Tekna, 65 miles on a good day, had it three years no issues, no running out of charge, even did a trip from Halifax to Dover, cost was nothing as back then ecotricity 50Kw chargers were on free vend !. Have a Tesla MYLR now and won't be swapping to another brand for the foreseeable future, mainly charge at home off overnight or our solar system so virtually free motoring....apart from buying the car of course but it wasn't as expensive as our range rover PHEV p400e it replaced so a little win there and a huge win on servicing costs still got the silly grin 19 months on !
The heated seats are the quick and efficient way to warm the car up. There is no battery heater in the Mini. Traffic jams are the way to get over 10mi/kWh. Don't get a Mini EV if you can't charge at home or work. I've had mine nearly 2 years. I've done road trips up to 700 miles.
Martin, I don't envy your daily ride through the Rotherhithe tunnel! Generally I have a similar charging experience, I'm 7yrs in with a couple of i3s and also without home charging but I do have various cheat opportunities and the range covers my fairly regular 110mile trips. The picture has changed a lot over the period, not necessarily getting easier - just more EVs and more chargers. My local lamppost units are always parked up and I now rarely use them after the prices doubled, it's easier to use the exclusive CPO where the price is about the same. The pricing of public slow charging is now an issue [I get the high capital costs of high power DC that needs to be paid for] but the cost of installing a lamppost charger is trivial - I'm not as confident as you that we'll see a drop with lower energy costs.
can you do a video on the cost of charging versus mileage IE is it worth using a faster charger that costs more or a lower powered charger that costs less
New model just about out should be some good deals on these older Cars. If this had 300 mile range it would have been on the drive replacing one of the Two MINI’s on the drive. stop charging to full all the same 👍 Glasgow to Duxford via York may be a push for me in that. But very doable to years ago when it was struggle. Some people are charging at 2p at night. Vampire drain is more a thing when the Cars are parked outside. How does the MINI app or is it as useless as it’s always been?
I would plan to fill up if my car drops to 70 mile range, that’s your full range 🤣 I would rather not live in fear of putting on my heating & the lottery of charging prices, locations, downloading apps carrying round big dirty cables
I've been living with a Mini EV for over a year. A few long distance trips over 600 miles. Easy if you plan and give yourself time
Brilliant video Martin. Dispelling the myths and showing that Wisely is a classy outfit. 👍🏼
Brilliant video as always. Im lucky enough to have a drive, so i use Octopus, £0.07p per unit over night, i have a tesla (weekends) and an ID buzz for work. No road tax, no ulez and most importantly they’re sooo nice to drive . As you say Martin, it won’t work for everyone, but if you can, you really should!
I had no problem charging my 2023 Mini Cooper SE in 15-20 minutes from 10% to 80% using Ionity/Tesla Supercharger at a cost of £5-£10, and that was in the coldest of winters. Now in the summer, it charges in 12-15 minutes. I did run out of charge in Dec 2023 but I was quite surprised that I could drive an extra 30 miles at 30mph until the flatbed of shame was called in. Even then, we didn't think it would start up to drive on to the flatbed but it did, and the same again reversing from the flatbed into a public charger. Amazing car.
I own one and the build quality on these cars are excellent. Here public charging is great including curbside but i do have home charging
Excellent work! Thank you.
NIce overview. If I was an unconvinced ICE driver id say "jeez thats a lot of hassle always thinking about charging even if its easy"
I met some nurses at a charger who had this car. It was a company (NHS) car and they said they hated it because they drove around all day visiting people at home and they said they were always stopping to charge it. So it depends on your use case. In your case, not having a home charger, id have chosen something with much longer range because charging would be more infrequent. There are MG's (for example) similar size and price but double the range.
Ive been driving an EV for 7 years now and would now never get one with anything below about 280 miles, thats the minimum for me it means public charging is rare and winter range is still 250 or so. I do a 200 mile (return) trip once every couple of months so 250 in winter(down froma sumemr 280+) means i dont need to charge ever on that journey even in very cold and rainy weather where if i put my foot down i still get back home with 20 miles.
I've been driving a (used) Ioniq 28 for 3 years and wouldn't change it for a larger battery as there would be very little benefit, for me. It charges at home the vast amount of time. When I go on a trip I charge every 100-120 miles and it takes 15 minutes to charge. A larger battery car would be considerably more expensive to buy and nowhere near as efficient (I've averaged 5.2mi/kWh over 20,000 miles) so would cost me a lot more to run!
@@FFVoyagerinteresting you say about a larger battery being less efficient, I have a 3 year average of 5 m/kwh also with a Tesla 3 Lr so it is possible if you have a good car and know how to be efficient!
@@cliveharrington1553 I don't think large batteries are intrinsically
'less efficient' but the ones I've looked at are!
You are very much on the outside of the Model 3 LR use case. Certainly when compared back to back the LFP battery in the post 2021 RWD Model 3 gets close to the efficiency of the classic Ioniq but has not beaten it - yet (it goes a lot further on one charge though!)
It will be interesting to see if anyone does a test with the Ioniq new 'Highland' iteration of the Model 3, I think it could be the new 'king' of efficiency....
yet again another top video👍👍👍👍👍
Another great video, but have never been able to successfully charge at Ikea by the Dome (have now tried 5 times), gridserve was either over-occupied or faulty. Ubitrcity is the best lamp post in London. would like to see you compare the other lamp posts in London as some of them are an utter nightmare, a few of them even stop charging after something like 20 mins (pod point old wall charger, bigger posts have always worked)but there is 1 company that is more in the Hammersmith area where the app is just garbage and fails to register or take payment. I do agree that compared to 3 years ago it is much easier than it used to be.
I have a 120Ah BMW i3. My daily commute is around 5 miles to go to work in the night and back in the morning. I ussually charge at my ''weekend'' at 9.5p, but as I live in a rented house I don't have a type 2 charger. So I charge at 6A with the nanny's cable.I don't want to push the plug at the limit, so I get 10Kwh twice every week. That's enough if I don't have to go anywhere on my weekends. If I have to go for a journey in my weekend, I am very lucky that I can charge at work for 20p/Kwh and I have it full on Fridays so I can use it next day.
I have it one year and I never had a problem charging, travelling, I didn't wait a sec to charge on the road and till now I don't regret that I bought that car.
That sounds like a pretty ideal use case. Glad you like it!
6:15 😆
Such a shame too; those E46 Tourings are great little cars if you do want petrol.
Too old…
in 2014 we ran a Nissan Leaf Tekna, 65 miles on a good day, had it three years no issues, no running out of charge, even did a trip from Halifax to Dover, cost was nothing as back then ecotricity 50Kw chargers were on free vend !.
Have a Tesla MYLR now and won't be swapping to another brand for the foreseeable future, mainly charge at home off overnight or our solar system so virtually free motoring....apart from buying the car of course but it wasn't as expensive as our range rover PHEV p400e it replaced so a little win there and a huge win on servicing costs still got the silly grin 19 months on !
The heated seats are the quick and efficient way to warm the car up. There is no battery heater in the Mini. Traffic jams are the way to get over 10mi/kWh.
Don't get a Mini EV if you can't charge at home or work. I've had mine nearly 2 years. I've done road trips up to 700 miles.
Martin, I don't envy your daily ride through the Rotherhithe tunnel!
Generally I have a similar charging experience, I'm 7yrs in with a couple of i3s and also without home charging but I do have various cheat opportunities and the range covers my fairly regular 110mile trips. The picture has changed a lot over the period, not necessarily getting easier - just more EVs and more chargers. My local lamppost units are always parked up and I now rarely use them after the prices doubled, it's easier to use the exclusive CPO where the price is about the same.
The pricing of public slow charging is now an issue [I get the high capital costs of high power DC that needs to be paid for] but the cost of installing a lamppost charger is trivial - I'm not as confident as you that we'll see a drop with lower energy costs.
The I3 gets 4.5 , more efficient, do you just like the Mini for looks? Plus there are I3's with backup engine for winter.
can you do a video on the cost of charging versus mileage IE is it worth using a faster charger that costs more or a lower powered charger that costs less
What will those who drive round with loud exhausts do once they have to use electric cars? Mount speakers on the outside?
I've seen them available for Teslas already. 😥
New model just about out should be some good deals on these older Cars. If this had 300 mile range it would have been on the drive replacing one of the Two MINI’s on the drive. stop charging to full all the same 👍
Glasgow to Duxford via York may be a push for me in that. But very doable to years ago when it was struggle. Some people are charging at 2p at night. Vampire drain is more a thing when the Cars are parked outside. How does the MINI app or is it as useless as it’s always been?
I live with a 120Ah i3 in the winter, no problem, i think your mini is basically the same battery setup
MINI SE only has a 93Ah pack
You got me at novembr....
second gen NISSAN LEAF is better in every way especially been the only EV band to never blow up battery
I would plan to fill up if my car drops to 70 mile range, that’s your full range 🤣 I would rather not live in fear of putting on my heating & the lottery of charging prices, locations, downloading apps carrying round big dirty cables
Winter is not coming
16:06 typical Ev driver, no events planned as all their time is taken up charging the car 3 times a day
Plant eating Ev driver, is there any better reason to keep a ice car you are it 🌱