Gain and phase margins from a bode plot

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  • This video shows how to determine the gain margin , phase margin, the gain cross over frequency and the phase cross over frequency from a given bode plot. The bode plot is already drawn, if you want to see how to draw a bode plot, browse for my other video. If you want to calculate them directly from formula, watch this : • Gain Margin and Phase ...

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  • @snigdha7991
    @snigdha7991 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bode plot has been haunting me since a long time. This was much needed. Thank you!

  • @AKLilWorld
    @AKLilWorld 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU..sir ..most of the videos in youtube but they are not teach in engish. you are great .... i like your pencil .after a long gape i saw a this type(design) of pencil .

  • @lavanyatogaru9498
    @lavanyatogaru9498 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was a clear explanation. it can easily understand by the students. i didnt understand what our lecturer said but now i got a clear view about gain and phase margins etc.really it helps us. Thank you sir thank u very much

  • @sebasthiranikathalingam9416
    @sebasthiranikathalingam9416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very clear explanations
    Thank you sir

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am glad it was helpful :) All the best !

  • @shmizanb7026
    @shmizanb7026 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    university professors suck. you rock. thanks for the instructional!

  • @deepikajoshi4360
    @deepikajoshi4360 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your accent and explaining method as well. Thank you

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope it was helpful :) Thank you!

  • @Proman155
    @Proman155 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayyyy AYYYY !! FLOWER WALA APSARA PENCIL !!!!! Never the less video was good !

  • @shivashankar9926
    @shivashankar9926 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thnx for the video... It helped me a lot for the exams

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :) Glad it was helpful !

  • @sugalips428
    @sugalips428 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a controls exam tomorrow and you helped a ton! thanks

  • @prajyotrewatkar8709
    @prajyotrewatkar8709 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u sir for bod plot and this video, it really helped over class discussion ovr bode plot which was bouncer for me. thanx a lot sir

  • @omanandwakpanjar1613
    @omanandwakpanjar1613 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's very good explanation of Bode plot

  • @fatfarty123
    @fatfarty123 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You have an interesting accent ;). The video helped me out a lot, thanks!

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you :) Glad it helped !

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      fatfarty123 first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      fatfarty123 first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chinmaya A.S.V first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

  • @nikhildreamer111
    @nikhildreamer111 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    u r explanation is awesome sir i can understand easily thaankuuuuuuuu

  • @vedantvishwakarma9674
    @vedantvishwakarma9674 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video sir cleared all my doubts and bode plot now seems so easy
    Thank u sir
    😊

  • @sandeepsahoo5992
    @sandeepsahoo5992 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great Sir
    it is really helpful for me to understand the Whole Bode plot

  • @agnidiptahomroy8656
    @agnidiptahomroy8656 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, this was the explanation I was waiting for. Great explanation. Carry on.

  • @matildelimba6409
    @matildelimba6409 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're my best teacher

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I am glad it was helpful !

  • @ramppuru4
    @ramppuru4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sir in phase crossover freq, in the previous video you took +30 +60 +180 as your values in phase axis and now it changed to -30 -60 -180, so which is the correct way?

    • @jayendrachoudhary5314
      @jayendrachoudhary5314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      180 or -180 both are same brother,,, this time sir mistakely read dash 180 to to minus 180.... so dont be confuse...love from india. you can msg me for further problems.

  • @jisanrajib1
    @jisanrajib1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man!! You saved my control lab. Keep it up :)

  • @vijaymaurya3695
    @vijaymaurya3695 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please post an example on imaginary poles in root locus method

  • @montysingh3649
    @montysingh3649 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    best video on this topic

  • @swetachakraborty7942
    @swetachakraborty7942 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AWESOME VIDEO...hv xam tmrw.hv watchd bode plot video n this one.thnk u sir.grt job....

  • @indianindian1753
    @indianindian1753 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superbb explanation

  • @priyamdatta194
    @priyamdatta194 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot very helpful video

  • @tto45
    @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
    thx

  • @tto45
    @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
    thx

  • @152sun
    @152sun 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. Its going to make me pass tomorrow. But I didnt really understand your explanation for Rakesh Mandals question..

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped :) just search for the formula
      U will find it

  • @nandhiniganesh7815
    @nandhiniganesh7815 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its really Helpful

  • @souravghosh8642
    @souravghosh8642 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir the video is very clear except the one. How phase margin plot has changed nd how we get -180 when all the phase angles are in positive

  • @ommishra8853
    @ommishra8853 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx buddy....u cleared my doubt

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks :) Glad it was helpful :)

  • @shalineesinha3046
    @shalineesinha3046 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    if i have every angle positive n -180 degree z nt there then how can we determine phase crossover frequency

  • @ashritkv9987
    @ashritkv9987 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir in the phase angles.. initially we didn't have negative phases.. to calculate phase crossover you said we need to draw a line from -180°? please clarify

  • @Tural.Mustafa
    @Tural.Mustafa 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    very useful. Thanks. ps. that would be awesome to have it in better quality.

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome. Glad it was useful. Thankyou for suggesting. Will try to do better ones... :)

  • @AKLilWorld
    @AKLilWorld 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    with out using graph can i find out phase margin and gain margin

  • @fanaask5641
    @fanaask5641 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sir its easy to understand the subject u explained
    bt i confused why should we take -180 for the phase margin ? cant we have another value!!!

    • @hackerlife7806
      @hackerlife7806 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      he not even reply, fucking idiot make us doubt

  • @godsonfialor5014
    @godsonfialor5014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing lecture
    Thanks Sir

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am glad it was helpful. Thanks.

  • @saikiran-vh8lp
    @saikiran-vh8lp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    plz increase video quality your are explanation is vry gud

  • @khajarahamathullasyed2510
    @khajarahamathullasyed2510 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    tq very much sir....it helps very much

  • @amadousjallow9156
    @amadousjallow9156 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did you get that _180 because the previous video is not having plz? help in the morning i have exams

  • @adibhernandez9743
    @adibhernandez9743 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you.. help us a lot.

  • @636prateek
    @636prateek 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was very helpful...

  • @abhijitdas7949
    @abhijitdas7949 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    how could u join from --180° to phase angl plot.. b cz u take scale range frm 30 to 180 in ut previous video.

  • @emancunha
    @emancunha 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greatly explained. Man, you should teach for a living. Hope you can upgrade your "material", from pen & paper to some sketch-pad. For now, have my like + comment + sub. :)
    And for now, gogogo Nyquist plot! :D

  • @koteswararao4033
    @koteswararao4033 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in previous video u just taken 0 to 180 deg, but now angles are in negative.....would plzz...clear my boubt bro

    • @yugeshb
      @yugeshb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

  • @vallembhaskarakumar4449
    @vallembhaskarakumar4449 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir u have an amazing accent..it makes even the most dry concept interesting...thanx for the brilliant explanation 😊😀

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot :) Glad it was helpful !

  • @sourabhmajumdar513
    @sourabhmajumdar513 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice. very clear and accurate explanation. Thank you.

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sourabh Majumdar first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

  • @Gnani818
    @Gnani818 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank u n good explanation....
    how to select wl,wh
    need clear explanation

  • @venkatarun196
    @venkatarun196 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned a lot from u bro.... Tq

  • @loksundeep1108
    @loksundeep1108 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am sorry for my previous comment...this helped me alot....

  • @SagarPawar-dx5jd
    @SagarPawar-dx5jd 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanx a lot sir :) it's very easy nd helpful to understand....

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome :)

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chinmaya A.S.V first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

  • @bharatishukla1358
    @bharatishukla1358 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    isn't the frequency axis actually a log omega axis....?this means the frequency is 10 actually when you say it '1'?

  • @manisha3971
    @manisha3971 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it like you always take positive intop for magnitude and phase from postivie from down?

  • @JanuaryFebruary-yo3xo
    @JanuaryFebruary-yo3xo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How u find out the phase crossover freq. From before plot

  • @ramuremo8017
    @ramuremo8017 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    if the maximum range of phase angle is below 180° and above -180° then how to draw the phase margin

  • @varunrajravula1693
    @varunrajravula1693 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you mate it's so helpful video

  • @rahulvirkar9206
    @rahulvirkar9206 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    good explanation

  • @sangamkumar3406
    @sangamkumar3406 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    why are we taking 0 for gain over frequency and 180 for phase over frequency?

  • @akellavenkat9023
    @akellavenkat9023 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i didn't find any routh stability critireon part 2 and part 3 videos!
    please send me the links

  • @rohansengupta
    @rohansengupta 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    but you changed the phase angles on the right. confused. please help!

  • @parvezyendigeri3593
    @parvezyendigeri3593 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks it was helpful
    And our other videos were helpful too

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I am glad they have been helpful!

  • @shanmathis8867
    @shanmathis8867 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank u so much sir for ur clear explanation

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome :) Glad it helped :)

  • @shukalinka6481
    @shukalinka6481 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks a lot. may God bless

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome and Thanks :)

  • @lucianopinheiro15
    @lucianopinheiro15 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:45 for non unitary feedback you would not have drawn that line in 0 db, right?

  • @mawardiali4528
    @mawardiali4528 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is the phase crossover frequency and the phase margin frequency the same thing?

  • @harmeetsingh2799
    @harmeetsingh2799 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx a lot sir its really helpful.......

  • @aichatahiri9007
    @aichatahiri9007 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks it helped me alot

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome :) Glad it helped !

  • @creativesongs3106
    @creativesongs3106 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tq sir tomorrow is my exam
    I think there will be no use to refer my notes again
    This video is enough

  • @landodaniel4832
    @landodaniel4832 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful, thank you

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped :) Thank you!

  • @divyasheela976
    @divyasheela976 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir pls explain how to find out the phase margin and gain cross over frequency

  • @drphilmansmooth
    @drphilmansmooth 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what if your phase plot is phase>0 ( doesnt go negative), do you use +180degrees to find phase cross over frequency?

    • @jetfish777
      @jetfish777 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same problem except my mag plot dosent touch zero. Do i assume phase margin dosent exist?

    • @lakshmi1994-d4t
      @lakshmi1994-d4t 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +jetfish777 yes no phase margin

    • @lachulachus6623
      @lachulachus6623 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      same doubt here

  • @thermalengineeringmanojshe1302
    @thermalengineeringmanojshe1302 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting these videos...

  • @dineshnit315
    @dineshnit315 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very helpful class video sir.
    Thank you
    M S Dinesh from india

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou. Glad it was of use. :)

  • @manjudavid4926
    @manjudavid4926 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    very useful thank u

  • @rakesh7631
    @rakesh7631 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tan q so much sir ,it is very useful

  • @navneetsharma2175
    @navneetsharma2175 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    superb video

  • @Upgradezz
    @Upgradezz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helped me, thanks.

  • @shal123123
    @shal123123 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    If magnitude plot does not cross the 0 dB line but phase plot crosses the -180 deg point then can I calculate the gain margin. Because now I have phase cross over frequency and whether difference of gain at this frequency with 0dB will not be the gain margin??

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      shalini gupta first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

    • @RR42636
      @RR42636 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      toti to It is e^ epsilon, where epsilon is the dc gain of the bode plot as it tends to infinity.

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ronald 26 thank you but i still i cant find it ?

    • @RR42636
      @RR42636 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      For Gain Margin, the distance is expressed in decibels, while for Phase Margin, it is expressed in degrees. It's just a matter of subtraction.

  • @naiveahmad989
    @naiveahmad989 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks a lot sir its help us a lot

  • @kancharlasivakalyanreddy4506
    @kancharlasivakalyanreddy4506 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot bro

  • @mohanpraddep
    @mohanpraddep 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir I want polar plot and nyquist plot can u plz... help me

  • @Mandalrakeshq
    @Mandalrakeshq 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sir if there is no -180 in the phase angles..means if we got the range from 30 to 180 then whats should the value of the angle from where we get the phase cross over frequency??? reply needed urgent

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      As much as poss try to make a substitution that gives u those values... Otherwise use the formula... Hope it helps :)

    • @Mandalrakeshq
      @Mandalrakeshq 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      okk thanku sir :)

    • @saurabhgadkar6351
      @saurabhgadkar6351 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chinmaya A.S.V which formula? can you tell me plz..

    • @raghavupadhyay2836
      @raghavupadhyay2836 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Chinmaya A.S.V
      for any value of w we cannot get fi -180
      bcoz 180-tan inverse of something -tan inverse of something cannot result to -180
      you too changed it
      from previous video it was 30-180 scale but in this video the scale has changed but not the points..
      thats not fair...

    • @lachulachus6623
      @lachulachus6623 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      same doubt

  • @nikhildreamer111
    @nikhildreamer111 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    phase cross frequency 180 is not exist for every graph plz explain with another example phase cross over frequency

  • @ravikumarpanda7719
    @ravikumarpanda7719 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir ihave thevalues of phase angles from 30 deg. to 174 how i am get the valu of wpc

  • @H0ckeyCus
    @H0ckeyCus 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good, thanks a lot

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      H0ckeyCus first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

  • @NirajKumar-fd4jb
    @NirajKumar-fd4jb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice sir
    but it will be better if video picture quality will be upgraded

  • @jonesr227
    @jonesr227 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really don't want to be negative about this video but apart from the poor production quality there is also some vital information missing. That is whether the gain and phase margins are positive or negative. This is crucial information as it directly affects the conclusion about the desired performance of the closed loop system. For the Bode plot considered, the phase margin is positive but the gain margin is negative. Performance requirements dictate a sufficient level of both positive gain and phase margins.

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback. Will do better ones later.

  • @chidanandadatta4695
    @chidanandadatta4695 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if we don't get 180° in phase angles

  • @yugeshb
    @yugeshb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro in previous video phase angles r in positive now in this video it is negative.explain bro

  • @chinnuchinni5568
    @chinnuchinni5568 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a doubt y should we drawn from -180 in phase plot for finding gain crossover frequency

  • @hackerlife7806
    @hackerlife7806 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happens if I have 57 degrees highest and -88 degree lowest.. which is my phase origin??

  • @navneetsinha7509
    @navneetsinha7509 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for clearing my dought

  • @avishekbanik8354
    @avishekbanik8354 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i liked it. helpful. But if possible try to improve the video quality. Thanks a lot

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks :) Will look into it :)

    • @abhijitdas7949
      @abhijitdas7949 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      sir how could u join from -180° to phase angl plot.. b cz the scal range fro +ve 30 to +ve 180

  • @mohitbhagchandani973
    @mohitbhagchandani973 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you find phase crossover frequency when you dont have -180 just as in your other video explaining how to draw a bode plot?

    • @koteswararao4033
      @koteswararao4033 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      same doubt bro
      if u know tell me

    • @michaelmatusowsky3863
      @michaelmatusowsky3863 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      if there is no phase cross over frequency at -180 then your gain margin is infinite :).

    • @lachulachus6623
      @lachulachus6623 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      we can use the formulas instead of finding those values from bode plot

  • @mohsenssalem9661
    @mohsenssalem9661 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks doctor

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope it was helpful :) Thank you!!

  • @theglory3813
    @theglory3813 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you. it really helped

  • @thandananivumani3269
    @thandananivumani3269 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you answered my question easily!

  • @CBhargavi
    @CBhargavi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    clear cut explanation

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you... Hope it was helpful :)

  • @tusharbhoyar1888
    @tusharbhoyar1888 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much

    • @tto45
      @tto45 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tushar Bhoyar first thank you for help what is the distance in number ? for gain margin and phase margin?
      thx

  • @freddykrugger4940
    @freddykrugger4940 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    clgla sonnatu oru mannum purila. nee sonnathu purinjithu da dai massssu daw

  • @gauravsharma5994
    @gauravsharma5994 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    doubt at phase cross over frequency. You changed 180 to negative 180?

    • @siddharth5483
      @siddharth5483 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah...i have the same doubt....

    • @abhijitdas7949
      @abhijitdas7949 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes..same here..

    • @radhika4378
      @radhika4378 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly...same doubt

    • @siddharth5483
      @siddharth5483 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i can make out that u guys are 3rd yr students and u have ur semester exams... isn't it..!?😂

    • @radhika4378
      @radhika4378 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tommorow is my exam :-(