TH-cam decided I needed to watch this video probably based on my search history. I must admit that after trawling through countless vids, it was a pleasure to watch yours. Clear, informative and well delivered. Thanks.
Thanks Gavin brilliant video and very informative I love flying my Air 2 it’s a fantastic drone. But thing’s are getting a lot harder and more complicated these days for us recreational drone flyers I just use my common sense and stay well clear of people and built up areas.
Thank you kindly ! Yeah same here but for £20 a year you get the liability insurance which is probably worth it alone! I just want to make sure people don't abandon the bigger drones and be scared to fly them when they are extremely relevant
@@GAVINHR I’ll look into it further Gavin I must admit with all the pressure put on us now and the laws changing every year with the CAA I was thinking of calling it a day and selling my equipment,but with your input and help it makes you think again.
@@bownsaway The rules have got much more permissive. Previously you had to keep 150m from a congested area and 50m from a person not under your control. Now association members can fly right up to the edge of a built up area (no 150m separation criteria), or in it if the area is used solely to recreational purposes (eg a park), and 'not within' 30m of an uninvolved person (which means you can technically overfly them so long as you're 30m above - should be avoided if possible of course).
Hi Gavin great videos and straight to the point. I had done my A2 CofC i little while ago because the Drone i love flying is my trusty Mavic 2pro which is over the 250g. I then herd about article 16 and FPV UK when I joined the Gray Arrow club. I then came across your TH-cam video that explains exactly what you can do which is great and thanks. The one thing that I'm now struggling with is with all the crazy By-laws TOAL. I wanted to get some nice footage of Beachy Head and the Lighthouse but they seem to have restrictions and I would have to take off a long way just to get some shots. I have also noticed that a lot of recreational places don't like you flying drones even though some of them don't have any By-laws and some just randomly put signs up just to fog people off. I find it very frustrating as I like to get a bit more practice.
Gavin great video mate! I just want to be 100% sure I have my ducks in a row before taking to the air with my AIR 3S. Between your videos and one from Simon over at FPVUK. I now have a much better understanding where and where I cannot fly under ARTICLE 16. Since your above video which I found EXCELLENT I just want to verify all of the content is still up to date considering it is a couple of years old.
Subbed. Umpteen videos on A2CofC, but I never heard abt Art 16 until youtube suggested your video. Crisp and to the point video. Joined FPV in 5 mins after you finished !
That is the best concise video I’ve ever seen. Who knew that about FPVUK ? I’ve only been with then 7 years or more and I didn’t . That is great news for me as I have the Mavic pro 2 and the mini 2. Shocked of how great the information was brilliant for drone flyer`s. As I already said who would of known lol. Much many thanks for sharing Ray K UK YNWA.
This really is the life saver for me as a beginner buying the dji avatar yesterday.and because of the brilliant snow delivery got delayed....Before I buy I never realized that the restrictions are so tight that somehow I couldn't even fly it in my garden when it arrived. This article 16 is really a Savior for fpv drivers... I really want to fly... To feel the freedom not the invisible cage.. thank you so much.
Thank you for making this video :) Although I just have one question. Say I wanted to fly my DJI air 2s around peoples houses (in a built up area) to take photos/videos for money, what sort of qualification(s)/authorisation(s) do I need?
Hi great news - only been flying for 6 months so a newbee so to speak do you have a link on where and how I obtain this - this would be great get quite a few people looking down there nose at me when I’m flying so the more I have to back what I do is not wrong the better…… Kind regards sorry I just see the link I have my other I d - do I just pay the membership for this and I’m good to go or do I have to do more test …… 🙏🏻
Wish I had seen this before I had just completed the C of C with UVHUB, though the information they provide is first class and supplies risk assessment info. I joined FPVUK, last year, as I needed some insurance for a greydrones meet up ! Seems £20 well spent now, especially as the C of C does not seem valid at the end of the year with restrictions back to 150m! Great information as usual, clear and concise. Keep them coming....
Thank you very much! I always like you commenting on my videos as you have been with me pretty much from the start! Thank you so much. Even at the £20 for 5million PL insurance it's worth it!
@@GAVINHR its funny you mention that cause today is the day im flying, finally perfect conditions bright sunny day at winds from 3kmh to 19kmh gust so ya and also test out my new phone cover{cynova) shade as i mentioned to you before
@@GAVINHR temp is 28 c ,i flew it for like 15 minutes or so it was great but i get so bloody scarred when i fly it every time , i wish i get over that ,the Mini 2 is and always been reliable but still maybe in time, i baby it to much i think LOL but ya that phone cover is just awesome Gavin i cant recommend it enough for like 12 bucks your getting great quality and they now have a newer version with buckle snap i noticed for about the same price ,as for dimming screen on my phone never had that problem really
Very interesting, thank you, as I have a Mavic Air 2 and a Phantom 4 Pro, and due to the pandemic, have been pretty much grounded. Then when I recently went to check out the latest laws/ regulations, I was mortified to discover that the goalposts had changed again, and made the kind of aerial photography I like to do almost impossible due to the stricter weight categories, and "legacy drone" clauses. So I will certainly look into this as I was considering the A2 CofC (begrudgingly!)
How did the stupid scamdemic ground you? It never stopped me doing anything I still went out cycling. No nobhead politicians are going to dictate where I can and can’t go. When your drone is 300 feet up in the air how is anybody going to know what weight it is? I would say the chances of getting caught are slim to none, the police have more important things to do.
There is a field behind my house and a main road with coucil houses around. Without the A2 and only having A1 and A3, flying a air s2 in sport mode at an altitude of 100m-200m in the air at night, is a big no then? Despite keeping 50 metres away from my surroundings? Also don't you have to adjust your flight altitude, ie if i went up 100m, everything else should be away from me by 100m?
hi there, I am getting back into flying but wanting to do it commercially as well. Is there any course or exam I can do so I can fly closer than 30m to uninvolved people? I don't want to film uninvolved people, but my use of drone is for camera work and would rarely go above 20m from the ground. just trying to search around and find out more. thought it would be easy to find all the info I need, but it isn't, some of the matterial is out dated, the Eu version is different again, already got the eu a1/a3, and then took the british one as well in the same day just to cover those 2, next is the a2, but I am looking at the mavic 3 pro cine to add because of the pro res, and how it will be easier along with my other cameras.
I joined FPVUK based on one of your earlier videos and don't regret it. Of course I only did it in case I decided to buy myself the Air 2/Air 2S. Still thinking about buying one. Oh and don't forget FPVUK have an option for them to renew your Flyer/Operator ID in case you forget. Something that I took up because I knew that I would forget and of course the included insurance. Personally I think it's an amazing deal, well worth it.
Damn David! Trust you to mention the operator I.D renewal! Haha, I actually filmed that and explained it but the video got too long so I trimmed it out in the final edit so thank you for your comment. Yes indeed it's a nice feature also, the new allowed auto flight modes makes a huge difference !
Excellent and informative, joined FPV after watching your video and took the competency test too, nice little bit of encouragement thank you very much. I do have a question, would a pub car park be classed as a recreational area as it’s difficult to decipher what are or aren’t these areas. Many thanks, Marc
Hi Gavin. Currently have a mavic air but thinking of getting an Avata 2. Got operator and flyer ID. If I want to fly in parks, landscapes where people might be walking, over beaches etc if I were to get FPV membership is that enough to allow me to do these types of flights? Not looking to make money off them; just for my own use at present. Thanks.
Hey one of our favourite seaside places, Sullivans chip shop ace do you go to Hornsea or were you on hols, I'm already a FPV member sounds a bit SPV from captain Scarlet. Keep up the good work.
Hi, im confused. I am thinking of getting a dji mini 3 Pro, and the larger battery, but its said they are not selling the battery in Europe and the UK, because of taking it over 250g, and c label which I dont u understand. Fact it, if I got the mini 3 Pro and managed to get the larger battery, now just over 250h, what do I need to be able to fly it in a built up area. Im in the bmfa, hot my A certificate in fixed wing, and would come under article 16, as im in the bmfa
The automated flight modes exemption no longer appears to be part of the article 16 authorisation for fpvuk. Its back to hands on sticks if it ever changed and wasn't just a mistake in the video. Quote from current authorisation in Feb 2023: "The use of any automation, such as automatic flight modes which alter the position of the aircraft, places the operation outside the definition of a model aircraft, and therefore outside the scope of Article 16. The aircraft must be flown with direct control inputs from the remote pilot."
I do like the idea of carrying the card and risk assessment, as it will help with any Joe Public confrontations. The PLI cover is worth the membership cost alone. Another informative video Gavin and no mention of that bloody crap Mini 3 video either !!
Of course not. People get excited I understand but some channels have been talking about this for months - even if DJI launch one this year it's going to be before Christmas or at least November ( year on from the mini 2 ) don't see any point in talking about the mini 3 yet. I'll leave others to claim they have inside knowledge whist showing a fake video 🤣
Can I just say a huge thank you, so informative!! 🙏🙌✨ I’ve been browsing the web for time with anything regarding these topics, came across fpvuk by chance and was looking for reviews. Put my mind at ease and I’m about to bing on your stuff 👌
So, i live in a picturesque village with stunning views. I recently flew my 249g drone to get some birds-eye photos of the medieval village. I did not fly any less than 50m and mostly at 120metres. Should i have completed a risk-assessment?
Strangely, tempting though you made the new Article 16 agreement, this has convinced me to get the Mini 4 Pro as soon as I can free up the cash. Otherwise, a great reference video!
Another great video, I've joined FPV UK. Also had to do the IAA operator and flyer ID so I'm registered and part of EASA so I can fly in Europe now as the CAA isn't recognised anymore , maybe worth doing a video about flying in Europe 👍
Yes certainly something I can look to do ! I don't like to repeat videos if I can help it that others have done and I believe Ian in London covered it but I'll take a look see what I can come up with ☺️ thank you for watching.
@@GAVINHR 👍 I also watch Ian of london's TH-cam channel and I've not seen his video regarding flying in Europe so I'll take a look, the problem on various forums like Grey arrows is conflicting information, some say once registered in any EU country that's part of EASA then you can fly on all of the EU but other state that you still need to register in each Individual country you intend to fly in. Cheers.
Can you clarify when using Article 16 as a benefit of being a registered member of a model flying club and flying on their field. Is my Article 16 benefit still valid if I go off and fly perfectly legally somewhere else other than the club flying field?
Quality video Gavin, could you explain flying in a recreational area in a built up area please, under article 16 could I take off from a beach promenade in a built up area as long as I keep 15M from uninvolved people for take off and landing ?
Still a bit confused!? I have a drone that's 320g (parrot anafi). If I join the fpv do I get the same flying rights as one that's under 250g? What are the differences. Sorry I'm a newbie 🤣
I’ve just read article 16 and it says “The model aircraft is not a rotorcraft with more than two lift generating rotors or propellers “ That counts out most drones. I’m i reading this wrong or is there a separate documents for Drones and Model Aircraft?
Hi Gavin, I am a total newbie to this great pastime. As an keen amateur photographer I recently bought an fantastic little DJI Mini 3 Pro and love the extras it gives me. I stumbled on this vid only this eve and had no idea about FPV UK and I have paid and joined. I have already registered my drone with CAA but the FPV website is continuously telling me I reminding me to take the the test and get a CAA flyer ID. Is this the same as a CAA Operators ID? So much info, its confusing. Can you advise please
Is there an expiry on the section 16? I don't want to spend the money on a larger drone if I know it is only going to be for a limited time. Cheers, great video.
The amount of people that don't like article 16 half think it racing only and half are jealous because of the distances and do nothing but bad mouth article 16. I've even been told article 16 is being being scrapped. Thanks for the video wicked to hear I'm on the right track with article 16.
You are most certainly on the right track with it. I think a lot of people who bad mouth it are the ones that believe they are extra qualified because they paid for the A2 CofC qualifications only to discover A16 allows more freedoms with the over flight. I understand people associate FPVUK with drone racing however it's just a association like the rest allowing more freedoms. It's certainly the way to go if you are a hobby flyer
UI have already obtained my CAA Operator & Flyer ID qualifications and currently operate a DJI Mini 2. I also have £2million public liability insurance. I am a pro photographer and have clients who are asking if I am able to conduct roof surveys of residential and commercial buildings located within built up areas. I was already considering booking an A2Cof C course but need to know what other qualifications and courses I need to complete in order too be legally compliant in order to do this. What would I need to do in order to be able to carry out this kind of work? many thanks.
Good video with the actual info needed to help inform a drone purchase and avoid unwanted affection from Plod et al. Most folks will want the flexibility to be in public areas like parks etc and not 150m away from other people, or buildings etc, since these make good and interesting features in shots. But this is the end result of bawbags flying drones round Heathrow and Gatwick and shutting them down for hours at a time and means everyone has to do risk assessments and have restrictions put on what you can and can't do. Think this means I'll not bother with a larger drone, too much ball ache. Mini 3 Pro will be the way to go I guess.
A particular youtube guy from Blackpool who has just got a mavic 3 needs to view your video. He claims he has passed the A2 cofc but then clearly dosnt care about the air law or the uninvolved people he flys over all the time.
I am told a TH-camr matching your description has been telling people to buy the M3 and that the C labelling will be "sorted" - it really won't but of course article 16 is the only way to fly it properly and even then it shouldn't be within 30m of a built up area - and of course article 16 does not allow commercial operations so a lot of people. People have a duty I feel to give the correct information in their position.
@@GAVINHR I did point this no no to this guy. But he just ignores any negative comments.(in his opinion) The issue being that poor flouting of the rules gives the wrong info to new flyers and could make the CAA bring in more rules. I believe his next video will be flying at night over a town. It's a pity the CAA dont step in and make an example of him. Maybe they will. Your videos give clear information and how to follow the rules. We salute you and your channel 👏👏
Thank you very much I do genuinely try to give the right advice - it's like videos such as the on we are talking on, I do properly make sure things can be repeated before I make any negative comments because I want my viewers to trust my judgment. TH-cam is and always will be just a part time hobby for me but a lot of people now really rely and appreciate what I do and that keeps me going knowing I'm helping people. Thank you for the kind words again ☺️👍
Hi Gavin, Thank you for the awesome information in your videos. What I wanted to ask was - Would I be able to film actors who are involved in my movie, from any distance in an open park area? Or does the distance rule apply? I am thinking of getting a DJI Air 2S or using an existing DJI Phantom 4 These new laws are so confusing - I wish they had made these simpler by just putting up a size table for the drones and what each size range can and can't do legaly.
If they are actors who are aware you are filming them then you are fine, they count as "involved persons". It's people who are out and about that you have no contact with. Technically as long as you ask other people if they mind you flying, you could argue that you have involved them too.
The bigger debate is what constitutes ‘commercial’ vs recreational. Caravanning in Yorkshire took some shots of the site, gave them to the owner free of charge for his own use. It was recreational for me, but as i gave the footage away it became commercial even though no monetary reward existed.
Did you watch that section of the video? I covered this exact subject. Unless the primary flight is commercial the CAA do not class it as a commercial flight. If you sell footage after the event you are perfectly fine to do so.
Yeah I'll happily speak to the guys at coverdrone if needed as I have a working relationship with them anyway. However 100% unless the job is paid or at least a monetary value agreed then it is not a commercial flight. I've confirmed this previously with the CAA. The intended purpose of the flight has to be commercial. If not and you happen to sell a print / photo / video after the event this is still a hobby flight.
TBH Gavin for £5 i just pay the commercial insurance. Even though i have £25m through BMFA. I have read the new Art 16 on FPVUK website i cannot see anywhere it says automated flight modes are allowed or at least mentioned. It doesnt affect me but would be good to know.
I'm still confused. I fly my DIY drone's weighing 500g - 2kg in the A3 category meaning 150m from everything. Will the A2 or A16 cover me for flying closer to people with my DIY drone's? I tend to get a few dog walkers just wander in to the field i'm flying and walk directly under my drone which i'm in the process of bringing back down to land until they're gone. I'd love to fly my drone's closer to home or at the beech but still unsure what i exactly need? Failing that it's bite the bullet and buy DJI rather than build my own. :(
Great video thanks, let's say A2CofC wasn't to revert to A3 at end of 2022 - is there any additional benefit to having it, in addition to the membership.
Well said. So many people think if they get the A2 Cof A they can then fly over people and buildings. Didn't they learn anything from the course they just did and paid for. Apart from get down to 50 mtrs closer to buildings That's about it. Complete waste of money and time. And in 2 years time they can bin it. Either fly out in open fields with your bigger drones or get the mini and have much greater freedom
I disagree its a waste of time having sat it. That said i did the EASA A1/3 and found that just as if not more useful. Being free up to the point of the exam its actually a half decent course for educating noobies.
Hi. I was thinking of buying the DJI air 2s. The section 16, does this allow me to fly it in built-up areas? Does the FPVUK allow me to fly the drone in parks. Etc. And how do I apply for this section 16...? Thank you.
Hi, yes it does. Providing that area is primarily used for recreation you are fine. For A16 authorisation all you need to do is become a member! It flying in a built up area you need to do a quick risk assessment as per the template in the video description, pass the DMARES test and away you go!
How will the authority know that I have the article 16? With article 16, where else will I be able to fly the DJI Air 2s. I was thinking of taking it to places with hills and mountains. Etc. Sorry for the questions, just wanted to know before buying the Air 2s. Can you get close to bulidings with article 16? I've already taken the DMARES test. Do i need to take another test with FPVUK to fly in built-up areas? Thank you.
As explained in the video you can buy a card which shows you are member, I would suggest you watch my first video on article 16 it explains everything in full detail :) if you are 150m away from people in hills or mountains you can fly there anyway!
Hi very useful and chat video. Many thanks. Quick query: since this was published, have the rules materially changed or are we still good with the article 16? Things change so much, I just wanted to be sure.
The video is currently incorrect re: automated flight modes. The FPVUK article 16 OA only covers hands on sticks flying. Quote from the current (Feb 2023) FPVUK article 16 authorisation: "The use of any automation, such as automatic flight modes which alter the position of the aircraft, places the operation outside the definition of a model aircraft, and therefore outside the scope of Article 16. The aircraft must be flown with direct control inputs from the remote pilot."
Hi Laurent, yes you would still need to register for an operator I.D here in the UK sadly just the same as if we come over to France we would have to register with EASA
@@GAVINHR thanks a lot for this very prompt answer. OK I will need to register for 10 pounds per year for the operator id but exam for flyer id is not needed, correct ?
I’m going to start doing roof inspections on new build homes on estates. I’d like to fly the air 2/2s. I have an operator amd flyer id. Can I fly the air 2/2s over the building of a client with their permission? I’m not sure exactly what I need and want to stay on the right side of the law
Thanks cos i was going to pay £90 to do the A2 Cof C course and then sit the online exam so joined FPV, passed their competency test and good to go. I currently have a DJI Mini2 - can i use the operator ID on my new DJI Air 2s when i get it ? Thanks again.
Gavin, thx for this informative video it was very helpful. Just a question, I wasn’t aware that FPVUK a flying club but more of an insurance broker, I have just recently renewed my insurance for another year, am I automatically part of this club and share the benefits you mentioned regarding Article 16? Warm regards Ken. Ps. I am registered with a flyer ID, and flying a Mavic Air 2 recreationally.
Having read the new Article16 from the FPVUK website, it seems that NONE of the autonomous modes quickshots, mastershots and focustrack on my Air 2S are allowed. I may use those autonomous modes that DO NOT move the drone but merely rotate it in place. That is a huge restriction. Your video seemed to suggest that they were all allowed. Have I got it wrong?
Hi Andrew, the guidance notes presented to me by FPVUK and indeed now listed here : fpvuk.org/uas13529-article-16-authorisation-issue-2/ Certainly suggest to me regarding the use of those modes are accepted. Listed in red the position of the aircraft not just orientation. Hope that helps
@@GAVINHR Hi Gavin - Unfortunately there is ambiguity here. On that web page `The use of any automation, such as automatic flight modes which alter the position of the aircraft, places the operation outside the definition of a model aircraft’ However Article 16 authorisation applies ONLY to 'model aircraft'.` Section 3.2 Type of Unmanned Aircraft (1) This authorisation shall only apply to UAS operators and remote pilots of ‘model aircraft’. This includes: - Any ‘model aircraft’ - Any ‘control line model aircraft’ - Any ‘round-the-pole model aircraft’ Page 10 of the FPVUK hand book also nails this down: `The CAA defines a Model Aircraft as follows: "Any unmanned aircraft being flown purely for the recreational sport of model aircraft flying. This includes shop bought or home built aircraft, which are flown ‘manually’ using traditional control inputs rather than with any automation other than for flight stabilisation purposes. This includes multi rotor aircraft which are being flown with ‘direct’ control inputs, and without any automation, other than for flight stabilisation purposes.’" ... Nb. Using automation modes such as RTH is permitted in an emergency situation - eg in the event of a radio link failure. Also, automated modes which don’t move the aircraft in physical space, such as position-hold making the aircraft stay in position against the wind or Panorama mode which yaws the aircraft to take a series of photos whilst staying in a fixed location are permitted. Modes such as Tripod mode (which makes the aircraft fly more slowly), beginner mode, cinematic mode, etc are also permitted.` Can you help me understand this apparent contradiction please?
@@GAVINHR Hi Gavin - I was going to join FPVUK but this video gave me the nudge to actually do it. However, I was surprised to see autonomous modes such as Follow Me which you showed in the video as being allowed under Article16 OA. The FPVUK website is absolutely clear they are not allowed. I managed to have a bit of an email to and fro with Simon Dale at FPVUK and he confirmed my fears. I had hoped I had misunderstood it and your video was now showing what was now possible. Alas Follow Me as well as (most of) the other autonomous modes available with my Air 2S are disallowed under the Article 16 OA :-(. Simon has said you will remove that particular bit at around 11 minutes 25 seconds which was the only poor bit in an otherwise excellent and informative video.
Hi Andrew, yes indeed that section has now been removed. I spoke with Simon further and we clarified the situation whereas some autonomous modes are allowed the drone most not travel. That was perhaps my fault at my misunderstanding of the literature first given to me however as mentioned I have removed it. Either way it still reduces the distances over and above A2 CofC which is well worth it in my personal opinion
Hi Gavin thank you for your video it is very informative but id like to ask a question I have a dji mavic 2 pro which comes under a Legacy type drone if I became a member can I use article 16 to fly within 30 metres??
Thank you so much I was really considering selling my drone as iv not flown it since the rules changed and can't really afford to pay out to do the A2 CofC and to be honest it's pointless for my weight class of drone there wouldn't be any benefit really thank you again 😀
Hey dude I'm a member with bmfa and I fly article 16 and have the A2 CofC. So I've been flying the 30 metres too. I think it's £40 or £50 per year so when mine runs out I think I'll join fpv UK 👍🏻
Amazing, thanks so much for this video, I was missing so much with the separation distance. 30m will make flying Mavic 3 so much more fun. Thanks again.
That was very helpful thanks and i'm definitely going to avoid Bill Tuparier - he sounds like he ought to get out more and fly his drone where there are lots of houses etc !
Hi, GAVINHR. Great and informative video, thank you so much! Is the information still relevant as of May 2022? and if so, how long is this guidance valid for? Many thanks.
@@GAVINHR Thanks for the quick response, thats good to know. I purchased the Air 2, stupidly thinking it was a sub 250g drone (confused myself with the Mini) so thats put my mind at ease. Thank you again!
Superb information and delivered professionally Gavin, i do have one question or even two maybe. In 18 months the A2 CofC is no longer in force and the Air 2 (Drones over 250 grams) returns to class 3, but does this mean that article 16 and the excellent negotiations that FPV have got for its members also comes to a end? And if i may ask does this ending of the A2 CofC affect the 250 gram or less category in any way? (Just joined the FVP excellent value for the insurance and card id alone, didn't even realize it existed until this video) Regards, Sergent Slow.
Article 16 has no end date. It will continue indefinitely. (The CAA will review it annually, and issue a new Operational Authorisaiton hopefully with whatever enhancements we have negotiated that year - and they'll audit FPV UK too, but the provision itself has no time limits). It sounds like we need to do a better job with our marketing if you hadn't heard of us until now! That's good feedback. All the best Simon Dale (Chief Executive, FPV UK)
@@simondale3422 Thank you for clarifying that. I have only taken a serious interest in the drone scene since purchasing the DJI Mini 2 about 6 months ago and also getting a new found interest in photography/video and editing. Without the time and effort put in by Gavin and several other TH-camrs i wouldn't have learnt a tenth of what i know now, both with regarding the drone itself and the photography side, so its probably not your marketing, just me been a newbie. That said i do believe in having professional body representing us as hobbyists, along with all the benefits that your organization brings to us through membership. Many thanks. Richard.
Hi Richard, very sorry for the delay in my reply I was super busy yesterday with the horse saga! I see Simon has now answered directly which is brilliant !
I was about to go and take the A2 CofC until I stumbled across this. So to be clear, as I am a total novice. Should I still subscribe to the FPVUk if I plan to fly a sub 250g drone? Would it give me any benefit in doing so in terms of lifting any restrictions placed on a 249g drone?
No! This is useful for those wanting to fly drones OVER 249g, under that you will see zero benefits from either this or the A2 CofC however FPVUK do give you public liability insurance if you join but for the smaller drones you wil see no benefit rules wise. Hope this helps
I know you don't need it. This entire video is about drones over 249g. You're the one talking utter rubbish. If you want to operate a larger drone over 249g in areas which an A2 CofC let's you fly and want to do commercial work then you need the A2 CofC. If you don't want to do commercial work then article 16 is suitable for most people. Seems you just made yourself look very stupid by even saying you have a mini 2 and if you was paying attention this video isnt about drones that small. Tell me where in the video I say you need one for a mini 2. Take as long as you like
Good content , but if you tend to talk with your hands as much , it can be very distracting , so maybe you could keep your hands below the table mostly out of shot , as it is the hands are huge in the frame as they are much closer to the camera than your face .
TH-cam decided I needed to watch this video probably based on my search history. I must admit that after trawling through countless vids, it was a pleasure to watch yours. Clear, informative and well delivered. Thanks.
Thank you very kindly I really appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching 🙂
i second that. very informative and helpful
Third, thanks for this. Air2s has done nothing but catch dust until I seen this video
Top video mate. Very informative and easy to follow. Keep churning out the quality vids!
Much appreciated!
Thanks Gavin brilliant video and very informative I love flying my Air 2 it’s a fantastic drone. But thing’s are getting a lot harder and more complicated these days for us recreational drone flyers I just use my common sense and stay well clear of people and built up areas.
Thank you kindly ! Yeah same here but for £20 a year you get the liability insurance which is probably worth it alone! I just want to make sure people don't abandon the bigger drones and be scared to fly them when they are extremely relevant
@@GAVINHR I’ll look into it further Gavin I must admit with all the pressure put on us now and the laws changing every year with the CAA I was thinking of calling it a day and selling my equipment,but with your input and help it makes you think again.
@@bownsaway The rules have got much more permissive. Previously you had to keep 150m from a congested area and 50m from a person not under your control. Now association members can fly right up to the edge of a built up area (no 150m separation criteria), or in it if the area is used solely to recreational purposes (eg a park), and 'not within' 30m of an uninvolved person (which means you can technically overfly them so long as you're 30m above - should be avoided if possible of course).
Great video! I am with FPVUK. Very happy to discover your video today!
Hi Gavin great videos and straight to the point. I had done my A2 CofC i little while ago because the Drone i love flying is my trusty Mavic 2pro which is over the 250g. I then herd about article 16 and FPV UK when I joined the Gray Arrow club. I then came across your TH-cam video that explains exactly what you can do which is great and thanks. The one thing that I'm now struggling with is with all the crazy By-laws TOAL. I wanted to get some nice footage of Beachy Head and the Lighthouse but they seem to have restrictions and I would have to take off a long way just to get some shots. I have also noticed that a lot of recreational places don't like you flying drones even though some of them don't have any By-laws and some just randomly put signs up just to fog people off. I find it very frustrating as I like to get a bit more practice.
Just ignore them, tell them to fuck off and mind their own business.
Gavin great video mate! I just want to be 100% sure I have my ducks in a row before taking to the air with my AIR 3S. Between your videos and one from Simon over at FPVUK. I now have a much better understanding where and where I cannot fly under ARTICLE 16. Since your above video which I found EXCELLENT I just want to verify all of the content is still up to date considering it is a couple of years old.
Hi my friend! Currently over in Amsterdam but saw it was you who messaged so wanted to reply. Yes everything here is still 100% valid sir
Subbed. Umpteen videos on A2CofC, but I never heard abt Art 16 until youtube suggested your video. Crisp and to the point video. Joined FPV in 5 mins after you finished !
Perfect! Hope It helps !
That is the best concise video I’ve ever seen. Who knew that about FPVUK ? I’ve only been with then 7 years or more and I didn’t . That is great news for me as I have the Mavic pro 2 and the mini 2. Shocked of how great the information was brilliant for drone flyer`s. As I already said who would of known lol. Much many thanks for sharing Ray K UK YNWA.
Glad it was helpful!
This really is the life saver for me as a beginner buying the dji avatar yesterday.and because of the brilliant snow delivery got delayed....Before I buy I never realized that the restrictions are so tight that somehow I couldn't even fly it in my garden when it arrived. This article 16 is really a Savior for fpv drivers... I really want to fly... To feel the freedom not the invisible cage.. thank you so much.
Excellent Gavin, very comprehensive & informative! Love you Vids! 👍👍👍
Thank you for the kind words!
5-minutes after watching this i subscribe to FPV thank you very much 👍
Thank you for making this video :) Although I just have one question. Say I wanted to fly my DJI air 2s around peoples houses (in a built up area) to take photos/videos for money, what sort of qualification(s)/authorisation(s) do I need?
Hi great news - only been flying for 6 months so a newbee so to speak do you have a link on where and how I obtain this - this would be great get quite a few people looking down there nose at me when I’m flying so the more I have to back what I do is not wrong the better……
Kind regards sorry I just see the link I have my other I d - do I just pay the membership for this and I’m good to go or do I have to do more test …… 🙏🏻
Wish I had seen this before I had just completed the C of C with UVHUB, though the information they provide is first class and supplies risk assessment info. I joined FPVUK, last year, as I needed some insurance for a greydrones meet up ! Seems £20 well spent now, especially as the C of C does not seem valid at the end of the year with restrictions back to 150m! Great information as usual, clear and concise. Keep them coming....
just done it and joined be mad not to do this. Gavin good man as always top notch knowledge.
Thank you very much! I always like you commenting on my videos as you have been with me pretty much from the start! Thank you so much. Even at the £20 for 5million PL insurance it's worth it!
Really great thanks for publishing the info in such an understandable way
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Excellent Video Gavin!! Thank You!!
Thanks Doug!
Im in Canada but i watch you vids anyway to give ya support
I know you do Rick that's hugely appreciated. Thank you very much! Have you managed to get out flying ?
@@GAVINHR its funny you mention that cause today is the day im flying, finally perfect conditions bright sunny day at winds from 3kmh to 19kmh gust so ya and also test out my new phone cover{cynova) shade as i mentioned to you before
Let me know how you get on with it, what's the temperature like? Hopefully it will help with the screen dimming
@@GAVINHR temp is 28 c ,i flew it for like 15 minutes or so it was great but i get so bloody scarred when i fly it every time , i wish i get over that ,the Mini 2 is and always been reliable but still maybe in time, i baby it to much i think LOL but ya that phone cover is just awesome Gavin i cant recommend it enough for like 12 bucks your getting great quality and they now have a newer version with buckle snap i noticed for about the same price ,as for dimming screen on my phone never had that problem really
HI Gavin. Pretty much sums it up perfectly. Great video as always.
Thanks mate! Hope it helps people realise larger drones are not redundant
Very interesting, thank you, as I have a Mavic Air 2 and a Phantom 4 Pro, and due to the pandemic, have been pretty much grounded. Then when I recently went to check out the latest laws/ regulations, I was mortified to discover that the goalposts had changed again, and made the kind of aerial photography I like to do almost impossible due to the stricter weight categories, and "legacy drone" clauses. So I will certainly look into this as I was considering the A2 CofC (begrudgingly!)
How did the stupid scamdemic ground you? It never stopped me doing anything I still went out cycling. No nobhead politicians are going to dictate where I can and can’t go. When your drone is 300 feet up in the air how is anybody going to know what weight it is? I would say the chances of getting caught are slim to none, the police have more important things to do.
There is a field behind my house and a main road with coucil houses around. Without the A2 and only having A1 and A3, flying a air s2 in sport mode at an altitude of 100m-200m in the air at night, is a big no then? Despite keeping 50 metres away from my surroundings? Also don't you have to adjust your flight altitude, ie if i went up 100m, everything else should be away from me by 100m?
Thanks for the very informative video. I'm new to the drone world so still learning loads so this video helps.
hi there, I am getting back into flying but wanting to do it commercially as well. Is there any course or exam I can do so I can fly closer than 30m to uninvolved people? I don't want to film uninvolved people, but my use of drone is for camera work and would rarely go above 20m from the ground. just trying to search around and find out more. thought it would be easy to find all the info I need, but it isn't, some of the matterial is out dated, the Eu version is different again, already got the eu a1/a3, and then took the british one as well in the same day just to cover those 2, next is the a2, but I am looking at the mavic 3 pro cine to add because of the pro res, and how it will be easier along with my other cameras.
I joined FPVUK based on one of your earlier videos and don't regret it. Of course I only did it in case I decided to buy myself the Air 2/Air 2S. Still thinking about buying one.
Oh and don't forget FPVUK have an option for them to renew your Flyer/Operator ID in case you forget. Something that I took up because I knew that I would forget and of course the included insurance. Personally I think it's an amazing deal, well worth it.
Damn David! Trust you to mention the operator I.D renewal! Haha, I actually filmed that and explained it but the video got too long so I trimmed it out in the final edit so thank you for your comment. Yes indeed it's a nice feature also, the new allowed auto flight modes makes a huge difference !
Excellent and informative, joined FPV after watching your video and took the competency test too, nice little bit of encouragement thank you very much. I do have a question, would a pub car park be classed as a recreational area as it’s difficult to decipher what are or aren’t these areas.
Many thanks,
Marc
Thank you so much for this video. I have joined FPVuk as a result.
You're most welcome Jonathan. Thank you for watching
Thanks. Very clear info. I have an A2CofC and joined for some of the benefits.
That was very helpful, thank you. I always used caa website to fly, but wasn't sure what is the difference with FPVUK.
Hi Gavin. Currently have a mavic air but thinking of getting an Avata 2. Got operator and flyer ID. If I want to fly in parks, landscapes where people might be walking, over beaches etc if I were to get FPV membership is that enough to allow me to do these types of flights? Not looking to make money off them; just for my own use at present. Thanks.
Hey one of our favourite seaside places, Sullivans chip shop ace do you go to Hornsea or were you on hols, I'm already a FPV member sounds a bit SPV from captain Scarlet. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, great video. Really useful for hobby fliers. Keep up the good work
Thanks for explaining, useful to know and make the most of
Hi, im confused. I am thinking of getting a dji mini 3 Pro, and the larger battery, but its said they are not selling the battery in Europe and the UK, because of taking it over 250g, and c label which I dont u understand. Fact it, if I got the mini 3 Pro and managed to get the larger battery, now just over 250h, what do I need to be able to fly it in a built up area. Im in the bmfa, hot my A certificate in fixed wing, and would come under article 16, as im in the bmfa
Thanks Gavin for all your info it made my mind up to go with Article 16 rather than C of C. Keep up the good work!
The automated flight modes exemption no longer appears to be part of the article 16 authorisation for fpvuk.
Its back to hands on sticks if it ever changed and wasn't just a mistake in the video.
Quote from current authorisation in Feb 2023:
"The use of any automation, such as automatic flight modes which alter the position of the aircraft, places the operation outside the definition of a model aircraft, and therefore outside the scope of Article 16.
The aircraft must be flown with direct control inputs from the remote pilot."
I do like the idea of carrying the card and risk assessment, as it will help with any Joe Public confrontations. The PLI cover is worth the membership cost alone. Another informative video Gavin and no mention of that bloody crap Mini 3 video either !!
Of course not. People get excited I understand but some channels have been talking about this for months - even if DJI launch one this year it's going to be before Christmas or at least November ( year on from the mini 2 ) don't see any point in talking about the mini 3 yet. I'll leave others to claim they have inside knowledge whist showing a fake video 🤣
Regarding public confrontation just tell them to fuck off and mind their own business.
You should do a risk assessment anyway, it proves you have done what you can to minimise any risk if the unfortunate actually happens.
Can I just say a huge thank you, so informative!! 🙏🙌✨ I’ve been browsing the web for time with anything regarding these topics, came across fpvuk by chance and was looking for reviews. Put my mind at ease and I’m about to bing on your stuff 👌
Thank you very kindly ! Glad it was helpful
Great info now i know where i stand with my Mavic Air 2
So, i live in a picturesque village with stunning views.
I recently flew my 249g drone to get some birds-eye photos of the medieval village. I did not fly any less than 50m and mostly at 120metres. Should i have completed a risk-assessment?
Nope - you are 249g so you have no restrictions, other than air ports etc you could have flown closer than 50m
@@GAVINHR I made the decision not to fly lower so as not to annoy residents etc.
Thank you sir for your prompt response 👍
Strangely, tempting though you made the new Article 16 agreement, this has convinced me to get the Mini 4 Pro as soon as I can free up the cash. Otherwise, a great reference video!
Another great video, I've joined FPV UK.
Also had to do the IAA operator and flyer ID so I'm registered and part of EASA so I can fly in Europe now as the CAA isn't recognised anymore , maybe worth doing a video about flying in Europe 👍
Yes certainly something I can look to do ! I don't like to repeat videos if I can help it that others have done and I believe Ian in London covered it but I'll take a look see what I can come up with ☺️ thank you for watching.
@@GAVINHR 👍 I also watch Ian of london's TH-cam channel and I've not seen his video regarding flying in Europe so I'll take a look, the problem on various forums like Grey arrows is conflicting information, some say once registered in any EU country that's part of EASA then you can fly on all of the EU but other state that you still need to register in each Individual country you intend to fly in.
Cheers.
The Luxembourg EASA A1/A3 is very good.i actually found it harder than the UK A2 course and its free to do and sit the end of course questionairre.
interesting……does the new rule about smart modes apply to BMFA members as well??
Thanks for the clear explanation, article 16 fits my flying locations perfectly, and saved me £40, it opens up my choice of drones to buy.
Yep! Great isn't it, thanks for watching
Very well explained. Many thanks. 😊
Thank you kindly!
Can you clarify when using Article 16 as a benefit of being a registered member of a model flying club and flying on their field. Is my Article 16 benefit still valid if I go off and fly perfectly legally somewhere else other than the club flying field?
Quality video Gavin, could you explain flying in a recreational area in a built up area please, under article 16 could I take off from a beach promenade in a built up area as long as I keep 15M from uninvolved people for take off and landing ?
That's exactly what A16 is for. Yes you could and that's exactly what I do in this video. 😊
So if I've got my Flyer ID and Operator ID and I fly a Mini 3 Pro and an Avata. What do I need to do next to fly commercially?
I would love to know if a pub garden would be classed as a recreational area, joined the club last year after watching your video.
Very informative 👍👍
This is the issue with the drone rules.. always open to interpretation! On one hand you would like to say yes but then it's a commercial building
Great video many thanks … I’m trying to join fpvuk but the pages don’t load… does it still exist?
Still a bit confused!? I have a drone that's 320g (parrot anafi). If I join the fpv do I get the same flying rights as one that's under 250g? What are the differences. Sorry I'm a newbie 🤣
I’ve just read article 16 and it says “The model aircraft is not a rotorcraft with more than two lift generating
rotors or propellers “ That counts out most drones. I’m i reading this wrong or is there a separate documents for Drones and Model Aircraft?
Hi there, yes 100% drones are included
Hi Gavin, I am a total newbie to this great pastime. As an keen amateur photographer I recently bought an fantastic little DJI Mini 3 Pro and love the extras it gives me.
I stumbled on this vid only this eve and had no idea about FPV UK and I have paid and joined. I have already registered my drone with CAA but the FPV website is continuously telling me I reminding me to take the the test and get a CAA flyer ID. Is this the same as a CAA Operators ID? So much info, its confusing. Can you advise please
Yes it is the same thing :) you can just disregard the prompts on the FPVUK site
@@GAVINHR thank you for clearing that! An excellent vid by the way and have just sub'd
@ianross04 thank you very much! Happy flying !
Great information thank you
Is there an expiry on the section 16? I don't want to spend the money on a larger drone if I know it is only going to be for a limited time. Cheers, great video.
At this moment and speaking to FPVUK they have no expiry at this time
The amount of people that don't like article 16 half think it racing only and half are jealous because of the distances and do nothing but bad mouth article 16. I've even been told article 16 is being being scrapped. Thanks for the video wicked to hear I'm on the right track with article 16.
You are most certainly on the right track with it. I think a lot of people who bad mouth it are the ones that believe they are extra qualified because they paid for the A2 CofC qualifications only to discover A16 allows more freedoms with the over flight. I understand people associate FPVUK with drone racing however it's just a association like the rest allowing more freedoms. It's certainly the way to go if you are a hobby flyer
Article 16 is certainly not being scrapped. That's nonsense. :-)
Simon Dale
(Chief Executive - FPV UK)
Thanks for your comment Simon.
Great video i have both FPV and my A2cofc .
Great video and tip, I’m already with FPVUK but hadn’t looked into article 16 ..thanks 👍
I've just joined FPVUK & automated flight modes are NOT covered, maybe this has recently changed?
What do you mean by ‘carry your risk assessment with you’? Thank you 👍
UI have already obtained my CAA Operator & Flyer ID qualifications and currently operate a DJI Mini 2. I also have £2million public liability insurance. I am a pro photographer and have clients who are asking if I am able to conduct roof surveys of residential and commercial buildings located within built up areas. I was already considering booking an A2Cof C course but need to know what other qualifications and courses I need to complete in order too be legally compliant in order to do this. What would I need to do in order to be able to carry out this kind of work? many thanks.
Good video with the actual info needed to help inform a drone purchase and avoid unwanted affection from Plod et al. Most folks will want the flexibility to be in public areas like parks etc and not 150m away from other people, or buildings etc, since these make good and interesting features in shots. But this is the end result of bawbags flying drones round Heathrow and Gatwick and shutting them down for hours at a time and means everyone has to do risk assessments and have restrictions put on what you can and can't do. Think this means I'll not bother with a larger drone, too much ball ache. Mini 3 Pro will be the way to go I guess.
A particular youtube guy from Blackpool who has just got a mavic 3 needs to view your video. He claims he has passed the A2 cofc but then clearly dosnt care about the air law or the uninvolved people he flys over all the time.
I am told a TH-camr matching your description has been telling people to buy the M3 and that the C labelling will be "sorted" - it really won't but of course article 16 is the only way to fly it properly and even then it shouldn't be within 30m of a built up area - and of course article 16 does not allow commercial operations so a lot of people. People have a duty I feel to give the correct information in their position.
Further to previous exactly that the A2 CofC does not permit overflight so yeah bit of a no no.
@@GAVINHR I did point this no no to this guy. But he just ignores any negative comments.(in his opinion) The issue being that poor flouting of the rules gives the wrong info to new flyers and could make the CAA bring in more rules. I believe his next video will be flying at night over a town. It's a pity the CAA dont step in and make an example of him. Maybe they will. Your videos give clear information and how to follow the rules. We salute you and your channel 👏👏
Thank you very much I do genuinely try to give the right advice - it's like videos such as the on we are talking on, I do properly make sure things can be repeated before I make any negative comments because I want my viewers to trust my judgment. TH-cam is and always will be just a part time hobby for me but a lot of people now really rely and appreciate what I do and that keeps me going knowing I'm helping people. Thank you for the kind words again ☺️👍
You say automated flight has now been allowed under article 16. Is this just panoramic
shots etc or does it include the likes of active track?
Hi Mike, sadly it is pano shots etc and not active track
Hi Gavin, Thank you for the awesome information in your videos.
What I wanted to ask was - Would I be able to film actors who are involved in my movie, from any distance in an open park area? Or does the distance rule apply? I am thinking of getting a DJI Air 2S or using an existing DJI Phantom 4
These new laws are so confusing - I wish they had made these simpler by just putting up a size table for the drones and what each size range can and can't do legaly.
If they are actors who are aware you are filming them then you are fine, they count as "involved persons". It's people who are out and about that you have no contact with. Technically as long as you ask other people if they mind you flying, you could argue that you have involved them too.
Great video Gavin as per normal.👍👍
Thank you kindly ! Hopefully it was useful
@@GAVINHR Yes it was, I’d like an Air 2 and these new rules are going to make it a lot easier to fly one! Thanks
Hey pal, it's near the end of the year and everything is up in the air .. is this still valid article 16 for 2023 so I can fly my air2s ??
Very informative, thanks
Thank you for watching
The bigger debate is what constitutes ‘commercial’ vs recreational. Caravanning in Yorkshire took some shots of the site, gave them to the owner free of charge for his own use. It was recreational for me, but as i gave the footage away it became commercial even though no monetary reward existed.
Did you watch that section of the video? I covered this exact subject. Unless the primary flight is commercial the CAA do not class it as a commercial flight. If you sell footage after the event you are perfectly fine to do so.
Try telling Coverdrone that. I explained to them i do not sell footage i may ‘gift’ it. They said its commercial.
Yeah I'll happily speak to the guys at coverdrone if needed as I have a working relationship with them anyway. However 100% unless the job is paid or at least a monetary value agreed then it is not a commercial flight. I've confirmed this previously with the CAA. The intended purpose of the flight has to be commercial. If not and you happen to sell a print / photo / video after the event this is still a hobby flight.
TBH Gavin for £5 i just pay the commercial insurance. Even though i have £25m through BMFA. I have read the new Art 16 on FPVUK website i cannot see anywhere it says automated flight modes are allowed or at least mentioned. It doesnt affect me but would be good to know.
@@gimbalair fpvuk.org/uas13529-article-16-authorisation-issue-2/
I'm still confused.
I fly my DIY drone's weighing 500g - 2kg in the A3 category meaning 150m from everything.
Will the A2 or A16 cover me for flying closer to people with my DIY drone's? I tend to get a few dog walkers just wander in to the field i'm flying and walk directly under my drone which i'm in the process of bringing back down to land until they're gone.
I'd love to fly my drone's closer to home or at the beech but still unsure what i exactly need? Failing that it's bite the bullet and buy DJI rather than build my own. :(
If I did A2 C of C would i still not be able to invoke article 16?
Great video thanks, let's say A2CofC wasn't to revert to A3 at end of 2022 - is there any additional benefit to having it, in addition to the membership.
Only if you want to use automated flight modes or commercial work, other than that no :)
Well said. So many people think if they get the A2 Cof A they can then fly over people and buildings. Didn't they learn anything from the course they just did and paid for. Apart from get down to 50 mtrs closer to buildings That's about it. Complete waste of money and time. And in 2 years time they can bin it. Either fly out in open fields with your bigger drones or get the mini and have much greater freedom
100% unless you are a commercial pilot the A2 CofC makes little sense. Article 16 makes more sense or as you say - get a mini 2
I disagree its a waste of time having sat it. That said i did the EASA A1/3 and found that just as if not more useful. Being free up to the point of the exam its actually a half decent course for educating noobies.
Is that HORNSEA??? looks like it to me as I have flown ther a lot. Great information matey 👍
Hi George! Yes this was indeed Hornsea ☺️
@@GAVINHR New IT... great place know it well
Found this really useful. Does the BMFA allow you to use article 16 also? I’m fairly new to drone flying
Hi there, yes indeed the BMFA also gives this flexibility
Great video if you join the fpvuk do you have to attend meetings or can you just fly using their features thanks
Hi Nik, yes indeed there is no requirement you can just fly using their benefits
Hi. I was thinking of buying the DJI air 2s. The section 16, does this allow me to fly it in built-up areas? Does the FPVUK allow me to fly the drone in parks. Etc. And how do I apply for this section 16...? Thank you.
Hi, yes it does. Providing that area is primarily used for recreation you are fine. For A16 authorisation all you need to do is become a member! It flying in a built up area you need to do a quick risk assessment as per the template in the video description, pass the DMARES test and away you go!
Does FVPUK allow the pilot to use the quickshots/ follow-me mode or do you have to use the sticks?
How will the authority know that I have the article 16? With article 16, where else will I be able to fly the DJI Air 2s. I was thinking of taking it to places with hills and mountains. Etc. Sorry for the questions, just wanted to know before buying the Air 2s. Can you get close to bulidings with article 16? I've already taken the DMARES test. Do i need to take another test with FPVUK to fly in built-up areas? Thank you.
As explained in the video you can buy a card which shows you are member, I would suggest you watch my first video on article 16 it explains everything in full detail :) if you are 150m away from people in hills or mountains you can fly there anyway!
Brilliant info, thank you.
nicely explained.. thanks for sharing.
My pleasure
Hi very useful and chat video. Many thanks. Quick query: since this was published, have the rules materially changed or are we still good with the article 16? Things change so much, I just wanted to be sure.
Hi Mike, no change to article 16 authorisation, all good still 👌
@@GAVINHR thanks have joined fpvuk thanks to your advice. Much appreciated
Will this stick apply in January 2023?
The video is currently incorrect re: automated flight modes.
The FPVUK article 16 OA only covers hands on sticks flying.
Quote from the current (Feb 2023) FPVUK article 16 authorisation:
"The use of any automation, such as automatic flight modes which alter the position of the aircraft, places the operation outside the definition of a model aircraft, and therefore outside the scope of Article 16.
The aircraft must be flown with direct control inputs from the remote pilot."
Hi what about mini2 flying in the UK? No registration needed as the one I had to do in France ?
Hi Laurent, yes you would still need to register for an operator I.D here in the UK sadly just the same as if we come over to France we would have to register with EASA
@@GAVINHR thanks a lot for this very prompt answer. OK I will need to register for 10 pounds per year for the operator id but exam for flyer id is not needed, correct ?
@@laurentlaurent367 That is absolutely correct, but its only 30 multiple choice questions just do it for fun :)
I’m going to start doing roof inspections on new build homes on estates. I’d like to fly the air 2/2s. I have an operator amd flyer id. Can I fly the air 2/2s over the building of a client with their permission? I’m not sure exactly what I need and want to stay on the right side of the law
No you can't: without A2CofC you have to be 150m away from buildings and uninvolved people with >250g drones.
Thanks cos i was going to pay £90 to do the A2 Cof C course and then sit the online exam so joined FPV, passed their competency test and good to go. I currently have a DJI Mini2 - can i use the operator ID on my new DJI Air 2s when i get it ? Thanks again.
Yes you can, the operator i.d is for you so it goes on any drone that you own / operate
@@GAVINHR Cheers Gavin,I'm grateful for that thanks mate.
Gavin, thx for this informative video it was very helpful. Just a question, I wasn’t aware that FPVUK a flying club but more of an insurance broker, I have just recently renewed my insurance for another year, am I automatically part of this club and share the benefits you mentioned regarding Article 16?
Warm regards Ken.
Ps. I am registered with a flyer ID, and flying a Mavic Air 2 recreationally.
Gavin if you already have the A2COFC can you still fly under article 16 when it suits you if ur a member etc ?
Yes of course :)
@@GAVINHR thanks for the speedy reply, fingers crossed the C label might make a comeback after watching geeksvana vid the other day, but I doubt it
Having read the new Article16 from the FPVUK website, it seems that NONE of the autonomous modes quickshots, mastershots and focustrack on my Air 2S are allowed.
I may use those autonomous modes that DO NOT move the drone but merely rotate it in place. That is a huge restriction.
Your video seemed to suggest that they were all allowed. Have I got it wrong?
Hi Andrew, the guidance notes presented to me by FPVUK and indeed now listed here : fpvuk.org/uas13529-article-16-authorisation-issue-2/
Certainly suggest to me regarding the use of those modes are accepted. Listed in red the position of the aircraft not just orientation. Hope that helps
@@GAVINHR Hi Gavin - Unfortunately there is ambiguity here.
On that web page
`The use of any automation, such as automatic flight modes which alter the position of the aircraft, places the operation outside the definition of a model aircraft’
However Article 16 authorisation applies ONLY to 'model aircraft'.`
Section 3.2
Type of Unmanned Aircraft
(1) This authorisation shall only apply to UAS operators and remote pilots of
‘model aircraft’.
This includes:
- Any ‘model aircraft’
- Any ‘control line model aircraft’
- Any ‘round-the-pole model aircraft’
Page 10 of the FPVUK hand book also nails this down:
`The CAA defines a Model Aircraft as follows: "Any unmanned aircraft being flown
purely for the recreational sport of model aircraft flying. This includes shop bought or home
built aircraft, which are flown ‘manually’ using traditional control inputs rather than with any
automation other than for flight stabilisation purposes. This includes multi rotor aircraft which
are being flown with ‘direct’ control inputs, and without any automation, other than for flight
stabilisation purposes.’"
...
Nb. Using automation modes such as RTH is permitted in an emergency situation - eg in the
event of a radio link failure. Also, automated modes which don’t move the aircraft in physical
space, such as position-hold making the aircraft stay in position against the wind or
Panorama mode which yaws the aircraft to take a series of photos whilst staying in a fixed
location are permitted. Modes such as Tripod mode (which makes the aircraft fly more
slowly), beginner mode, cinematic mode, etc are also permitted.`
Can you help me understand this apparent contradiction please?
Hi Andrew, assume you have messaged FPVUK? I have had an email from them regarding clarity I assume you have received the same?
@@GAVINHR Hi Gavin - I was going to join FPVUK but this video gave me the nudge to actually do it. However, I was surprised to see autonomous modes such as Follow Me which you showed in the video as being allowed under Article16 OA. The FPVUK website is absolutely clear they are not allowed. I managed to have a bit of an email to and fro with Simon Dale at FPVUK and he confirmed my fears. I had hoped I had misunderstood it and your video was now showing what was now possible. Alas Follow Me as well as (most of) the other autonomous modes available with my Air 2S are disallowed under the Article 16 OA :-(. Simon has said you will remove that particular bit at around 11 minutes 25 seconds which was the only poor bit in an otherwise excellent and informative video.
Hi Andrew, yes indeed that section has now been removed. I spoke with Simon further and we clarified the situation whereas some autonomous modes are allowed the drone most not travel. That was perhaps my fault at my misunderstanding of the literature first given to me however as mentioned I have removed it. Either way it still reduces the distances over and above A2 CofC which is well worth it in my personal opinion
Hi Gavin thank you for your video it is very informative but id like to ask a question I have a dji mavic 2 pro which comes under a Legacy type drone if I became a member can I use article 16 to fly within 30 metres??
Yes absolutely that is the case :)
Thank you so much I was really considering selling my drone as iv not flown it since the rules changed and can't really afford to pay out to do the A2 CofC and to be honest it's pointless for my weight class of drone there wouldn't be any benefit really thank you again 😀
Hi Gavin does it cover using waypoints or is that still a no
Hi there! Not seen you comment for a while - unfortunately waypoints are not covered :(
Hi Gavin thanks so much for the reply very much appreciated
Does this cover me as I fly a Phantom 4?
absolutely yes
@@GAVINHR thank you for your response. How long does this article 16 last for? I've read online that it's up to the end of 2023. Is this the case?
Hey dude I'm a member with bmfa and I fly article 16 and have the A2 CofC. So I've been flying the 30 metres too. I think it's £40 or £50 per year so when mine runs out I think I'll join fpv UK 👍🏻
Yeah for £19.99 per year you can't go wrong at all
You will be very welcome :-)
Simon Dale (Chief Executive, FPV UK)
Thanks! Super helpful :)
Glad it helped!
Amazing, thanks so much for this video, I was missing so much with the separation distance. 30m will make flying Mavic 3 so much more fun.
Thanks again.
That was very helpful thanks and i'm definitely going to avoid Bill Tuparier - he sounds like he ought to get out more and fly his drone where there are lots of houses etc !
Hi, GAVINHR. Great and informative video, thank you so much! Is the information still relevant as of May 2022? and if so, how long is this guidance valid for? Many thanks.
All still relevant, and the answer as it stands is indefinitely unless the CAA change something 👌
@@GAVINHR Thanks for the quick response, thats good to know. I purchased the Air 2, stupidly thinking it was a sub 250g drone (confused myself with the Mini) so thats put my mind at ease. Thank you again!
Superb information and delivered professionally Gavin, i do have one question or even two maybe. In 18 months the A2 CofC is no longer in force and the Air 2 (Drones over 250 grams) returns to class 3, but does this mean that article 16 and the excellent negotiations that FPV have got for its members also comes to a end? And if i may ask does this ending of the A2 CofC affect the 250 gram or less category in any way? (Just joined the FVP excellent value for the insurance and card id alone, didn't even realize it existed until this video) Regards, Sergent Slow.
Article 16 has no end date. It will continue indefinitely. (The CAA will review it annually, and issue a new Operational Authorisaiton hopefully with whatever enhancements we have negotiated that year - and they'll audit FPV UK too, but the provision itself has no time limits).
It sounds like we need to do a better job with our marketing if you hadn't heard of us until now! That's good feedback.
All the best
Simon Dale (Chief Executive, FPV UK)
@@simondale3422 Thank you for clarifying that. I have only taken a serious interest in the drone scene since purchasing the DJI Mini 2 about 6 months ago and also getting a new found interest in photography/video and editing. Without the time and effort put in by Gavin and several other TH-camrs i wouldn't have learnt a tenth of what i know now, both with regarding the drone itself and the photography side, so its probably not your marketing, just me been a newbie. That said i do believe in having professional body representing us as hobbyists, along with all the benefits that your organization brings to us through membership. Many thanks. Richard.
Hi Richard, very sorry for the delay in my reply I was super busy yesterday with the horse saga! I see Simon has now answered directly which is brilliant !
I was about to go and take the A2 CofC until I stumbled across this. So to be clear, as I am a total novice. Should I still subscribe to the FPVUk if I plan to fly a sub 250g drone? Would it give me any benefit in doing so in terms of lifting any restrictions placed on a 249g drone?
No! This is useful for those wanting to fly drones OVER 249g, under that you will see zero benefits from either this or the A2 CofC however FPVUK do give you public liability insurance if you join but for the smaller drones you wil see no benefit rules wise. Hope this helps
@@GAVINHR thank you, you've earned a subscriber for being awesome!
Just try to give the right advice 🙂 and thank you kindly
A2CofC is NOT a commercial certificate of competence and you are wrong to say if you want to operate commercially you must have it.
No I'm not wrong. Do some research again rather than telling me what you think you know.
@@GAVINHR So I must be operating my Mini 2 illegally then as I don't have the A2? Oh no hang on.. I don't need it!
I know you don't need it. This entire video is about drones over 249g. You're the one talking utter rubbish. If you want to operate a larger drone over 249g in areas which an A2 CofC let's you fly and want to do commercial work then you need the A2 CofC. If you don't want to do commercial work then article 16 is suitable for most people. Seems you just made yourself look very stupid by even saying you have a mini 2 and if you was paying attention this video isnt about drones that small. Tell me where in the video I say you need one for a mini 2. Take as long as you like
Absolute clown. Make sure you pay attention next time before you gob off at me trying to help people since YOU didn't understand the video.
Wasn't the clue in the thumbnail????? OVER 249g drone? Or did you miss that
Good content , but if you tend to talk with your hands as much , it can be very distracting , so maybe you could keep your hands below the table mostly out of shot , as it is the hands are huge in the frame as they are much closer to the camera than your face .
Anyone else thinking our government are terifide of us filming them .
Yes it seems to be
Two many hand movements when your talking.
Don't watch again then. Simple isn't it.
And if you're going to chat shit on people's videos, maybe learn the difference between two and too..