According to several in-game testing/s i've seen and read, Hydro Dmg Goblet is still far better for Neuvillette. However, if you don't have good HDG right now, I would recommend using HP instead.
In theory, and if you have VV/Kazuha, then I guess, HP would be better overall. But I'm still not sure though as I haven't tested it myself. Pretty sure there will be some smart youtubers who'll deal with this comparison.
@@Shin_fushisho You probably have a well built neuv and furina now, and your prob using HP goblet, but ima still tell :P With kazuha (lets say 30% elemental buff) and furina (60% Elemental buff ((on average) + neuv's passive buff You get like 110% elemental buff, so hydro goblet becomes kinda obsolete, HP will perform better according to my testings
Personally, no. If you have Charlotte, build her right and use her in this team. If you like Dendro/Aggravate teams, then I guess, pull for him. I don't think he's worth just for this team.
@@KuragesOath im using the jean fischl and furina with him would you say that team is better?? i wanna use baizhu to get some extra damage through bloom
@@BT-jg2xv depends on what "better" means to you: ease of use or damage? 1. "Ease of use" (gameplay, rotation) - I think Baizhu, Kazuha, Furina, and Neuv is better. 2. "Damage" - I personally think both teams equally better Fact is, it's really hard to tell and quantify. And you need to do your own testing/research since we each have our own different preferences - what might be fun/good for me isn't necessarily fun/good for you. Also, I don't think bloom damage matters that much if you don't build Baizhu right - I won't bore you with the details. TLRD: Bloom damage is insignificant and you should only prioritize/focus on buffing Neuv's personal damage.
@@artuilech.7506 that's most likely the case here. My Wanderer's build at this time has high CV with mid HP and so you can already see why its doing a similar damage as a C0 R1 Neuv.
you just can't call one of each "better" and call it a day. you need to crunch some numbers and test rigorously in game. and yes, bloom is irrelevant since i used baizhu, only for his healing utility. fisch w/ jean is up for another video.
@@KuragesOath im speaking the fact, with Charlotte you able to freeze enemies make it easier to hit and doesn't bother you to get interrupt, kazuha and Charlotte Is better for AoE/multiple enemies, while jean and fischl is better for single Target/bossing
@@Youndz. i'm not saying you're wrong or your statement is invalid... its just that it's too early to tell right now and we wouldn't want misinformation. yes, what you're describing is just one of multiple facets of Neuv and Fur team. as much as i would like to use and test charlotte, i just can't atm. she's C0 and i'm still building furina.
After testing with both Charlotte and Baizhu I would say that Baizhu is way more comfortable to use thanks to the pseudo shield. Charlotte heals more upfront but her energy requirements in this team without c4 and favonious codex are a bit of a problem although if you have those things and around 200% er she’s better
@@guilhermesousa5254 thanks man, appreciate sharing your results. No doubt she's one of the best healers right now but unfortunately is a little bit clunky in low cons... classic hoyo.
the enemies got turned into water with that team.
the crab on 1:49 😂😂
Neuvi c1 with r5 prototype amber will work or I have to bring a healer can you help me decide.
You still need a healer if your Furina is c0, but if c2 you don't need a Healer
What is better, an HP or hydro gobelet for Neuvillette?
According to several in-game testing/s i've seen and read, Hydro Dmg Goblet is still far better for Neuvillette.
However, if you don't have good HDG right now, I would recommend using HP instead.
But what if I play him with Furina who already provides an elemental damage boost?
In theory, and if you have VV/Kazuha, then I guess, HP would be better overall. But I'm still not sure though as I haven't tested it myself. Pretty sure there will be some smart youtubers who'll deal with this comparison.
@@KuragesOath Thank you for your advice
@@Shin_fushisho You probably have a well built neuv and furina now, and your prob using HP goblet, but ima still tell :P
With kazuha (lets say 30% elemental buff) and furina (60% Elemental buff ((on average) + neuv's passive buff
You get like 110% elemental buff, so hydro goblet becomes kinda obsolete, HP will perform better according to my testings
does furina increase neuvillette's damage by a lot ?
on paper, yes... but take it with a grain of salt. it may take weeks before this is proven true or not.
We have 2 wait coz furins's burst level is only level 8 by max
Is it worth pulling baizhu for this team??
Personally, no. If you have Charlotte, build her right and use her in this team. If you like Dendro/Aggravate teams, then I guess, pull for him. I don't think he's worth just for this team.
@@KuragesOath im using the jean fischl and furina with him would you say that team is better?? i wanna use baizhu to get some extra damage through bloom
@@BT-jg2xv depends on what "better" means to you: ease of use or damage?
1. "Ease of use" (gameplay, rotation) - I think Baizhu, Kazuha, Furina, and Neuv is better.
2. "Damage" - I personally think both teams equally better
Fact is, it's really hard to tell and quantify. And you need to do your own testing/research since we each have our own different preferences - what might be fun/good for me isn't necessarily fun/good for you.
Also, I don't think bloom damage matters that much if you don't build Baizhu right - I won't bore you with the details.
TLRD: Bloom damage is insignificant and you should only prioritize/focus on buffing Neuv's personal damage.
@@KuragesOath Alright thx for the info
Baizhu is only worth it if you love him, if not then just play Charlotte/Jean
Bro no offence or anything but my c0 R1 neuvi does this same amount of damage with this same team but with Charlotte instead baizhu
Good for you little nigga
maybe you were lucky with artifacts?
none taken. hmm so many variables to consider which would be very difficult know why.
@@KuragesOath you're using wanderer's troupe maybe he use marechausee
@@artuilech.7506 that's most likely the case here. My Wanderer's build at this time has high CV with mid HP and so you can already see why its doing a similar damage as a C0 R1 Neuv.
Its better to put Charlotte instead baizhu, that bloom thing do nothing, or swap kazuha and baizhu with jean and fischl, it wil do more dpr
you just can't call one of each "better" and call it a day. you need to crunch some numbers and test rigorously in game. and yes, bloom is irrelevant since i used baizhu, only for his healing utility.
fisch w/ jean is up for another video.
@@KuragesOath im speaking the fact, with Charlotte you able to freeze enemies make it easier to hit and doesn't bother you to get interrupt, kazuha and Charlotte Is better for AoE/multiple enemies, while jean and fischl is better for single Target/bossing
@@Youndz. i'm not saying you're wrong or your statement is invalid... its just that it's too early to tell right now and we wouldn't want misinformation.
yes, what you're describing is just one of multiple facets of Neuv and Fur team.
as much as i would like to use and test charlotte, i just can't atm. she's C0 and i'm still building furina.
After testing with both Charlotte and Baizhu I would say that Baizhu is way more comfortable to use thanks to the pseudo shield.
Charlotte heals more upfront but her energy requirements in this team without c4 and favonious codex are a bit of a problem although if you have those things and around 200% er she’s better
@@guilhermesousa5254 thanks man, appreciate sharing your results. No doubt she's one of the best healers right now but unfortunately is a little bit clunky in low cons... classic hoyo.