More Mod Testing: FMIC + ATM Fenderwell Intake + Open Flash Tablet Stage 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- We try to test the power gains from adding an NGEN Front Mounted Intercooler and an ATM Fenderwell Intake to the 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth. Then the ECU tune is upgraded to the Open Flash Tablet Stage 2 tune. Testing the mods in my usual way (20-50 mph second gear pulls) produced confusing results, and ultimately led me to dyno testing the Abarth at a cool JDM shop.
I love how informational this all is! The autocross looks fun as always. Maybe one day I'll get up to your level! 😅
During lock down I noticed my car getting slower - the answer was that the driver gained weight 😎
The most difficult mod of all!!!
Wish this was every Friday lol. Stuck with my Hyundai, but one day I'll have an abarth. Down here in Virginia Beach they are literally rare
Any new Fiat Content! I love this stuff and bought this car recently and love watching you work on it.
Thanks! Nothing is in the works, I’m just enjoying racing it right now
@@EveryOtherFridayOff I just did a FMIC, Both axles replaced, and then did three solid engine mounts. The mount's were a huge hit. A Shop here in NJ is working on proper tuning as well instead of a mail order nonesense.
@@umiami80 Would love to hear how the shop tuning goes. Not many want to touch these
@@EveryOtherFridayOff Will do. It'll be a real tune, no piggy back or one tune fits all.
Like your videos 👍 really cool way of explaining what and how - thank you
Greg from EC did a back to back dyno on video of 2WD then 4WD, using a 124 Abarth, there was a 30+whp difference. Take that as you will. These cars know they are on a dyno for emissions purposes I think.
Perfect video for my build inspiration. Thank you
Great video man. It is sad that not many places will tune fiat engines.
Great video
Really like your videos... Keep em coming.
I just found your channel. You make some really good videos! I have a 2016 Abarth. GFB, Fenderwall intake, AGP FMIC, and Ec phase 2. I've also noticed losing power in the high rpms. People say to try the Tork multiair springs. Since you have access to a good dyno, maybe try throwing those in your car? I've heard they make the difference you're looking for, and if they do on that graph than I'll order them too :)
I’ve thought a lot about the Tork springs. I don’t think they are for me. First, I don’t spend a lot of time above 5000 rpm, so there isn’t a lot of reward for me. Second, the multi air head is weird, and I’m fairly scared of making changes there. Thanks for the kind words!
@@EveryOtherFridayOff I understand. I think I'll end up doing it to mine. The dyno sheets I've seen show a massive gain from 4-6k rpm range. Between that and the TS WGA I'm hoping to help my top end out. But I love your content and you're driving so I'll be keeping an eye on your channel for the future!
*Good*
I think if you cleaned up the diverter valve and closed some factory boost leaks it might help
I also have a 2015 fiat 500 abarth with a bunch of the same mods plus some besides that beauty of a FMIC I always wonder if the eurocompulsion tuning would be better option especially since they came out with a new handled unit thats the same as what OFT offers but with more tuning options
I've always wondered if maybe the stock setup isn't good after all. I agree that notionally the FMIC it makes sense, less bends, more surface area, fewer leak points, but somebody put some thought into that design, ugly as it may be. I HPDE my Abarth monthly in season and was planning adding turbo/FMIC/downpipe(?)/custom or EC tune (running EC now). Leak points aside, thoughts on keeping the intercooler stock? Please note that this is a rhetorical question, I already bought the ATM.
I’ve heard it said that the stock ones aren’t bad, just complicated. A big reason for doing fmic for me was wanting to put the intake right where the stock ic was getting it’s nice cold air. I monitor IAT during autocross, and this alone has made a huge difference. So it may not be all down to the fmic being better, but the overall combo
Did you ever get a custom tune, or did you go back to the stock tune?
Hope you did well at the autocross in Roanoke. I tried to register on Saturday but it already filled up☹ so only one abarth.
Sorry you missed it. Had a great time. Try to make the next one!
Do you have an aftermarket boost gauge? I noticed the boost in your HUD to be a bit off especially if its getting info from the OBD. OFT Stage 2 should hit 25-26psi in ideal conditions. Ambient temp, too low octane gas, overheating, or a bunch of different factors could prevent that.
Pulling boost numbers from OBD. For the on screen gauge I subtract 14.5 from the obd number, which can be off a little.
So if the engine's running lean do you think you'll upgrade the pump or is it the ECU running the fuel mix lean which is the culprit?
I’ve been told that we have plenty of pump, and injectors. So ECU is probably the culprit
MTD - Multiair Tuning and Development. Check them out.
Hello chef, have you mod ideas for T-Jet engine?
Not yet!
Oh! I just noticed your 20-50mph post-stage 1 time is wrong. You calculated from 20-45mph. So instead of 3.155s, its closer to 3.6s
I’ll go back and look at that. Keep in mind I pull the final number from the raw data, not the video, and sometimes there are small discrepancies.
Did you ever get your time redone? What are the results if you did?
I haven’t yet. Got lazy after Autocross season. I need to get back on it when it thaws out here
Thank you for the response. Thank you for the videos, and great work.
You’ll hit airflow limits way more with a front mount intercooler.
I know exactly what is happening to your AFRs, I saw this on the dyno and resolved the issue
Also check out my channel. And my pcfxer channel. I’ve got a fast autocross Abarth.
Awesome, I’d love to give your tweaks a shot.
@@EveryOtherFridayOff same here as I have the same setup.
@@EveryOtherFridayOff I have so many updates for you.
OFT won't get past the stock PCM limiters. Hit up Brodey Dover on Facebook for info. He did a lot of custom work with Shiv and finally gave up on them.
The stage 1 OFT will lose you about 5-10 top hp and torque but will run much smoother as it does T hit the limiters.
If you want the 411 on the current tuning situation (including new players coming into the market) hit me up on Facebook through the Broken Fiat Club.
Tork is definitely the best current option if you want custom work done, but there are some heavy hitters from Europe expanding into the US currently.
Thanks a lot for the info. Joined BFC on facebook
That happened with me with the eurocompulsion tune. I had it dyno tuned ny someone else and I made 189whp and the curve is linear. I have the same mods you do.
I did get one pull with no dip, a little less power much higher up. Only variable is that was the coldest run of the day. I really suspect the ecu is seeing something caused by temperature that it doesn’t like
@@EveryOtherFridayOff these cars have bad heat soak problems. I'm thinking of running meth to bring the iat temps down.
I'm thinking the exact same thing.
Get rid of the junky open flash and get a Tork tune with their launch control option.
You need to talk to madness Autoworks