Behringer Pro VS Firmware Update! Does it fix the problems?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
  • Fresh on the news of the latest firmware update for the Pro VS Mini, Greg looks at the new features implemented and if it now sounds like a real SCI Prophet VS.
    Is it better? Is it the same? Is it meh! Lets find out
    00:00 Introduction
    00:25 Why the update 2 weeks after launch?
    02:35 The new sound engines
    04:12 How do they sound?
    06:48 Master Tuning
    07:20 New LFO Waveforms(?)
    09:42 Additional Features
    12:00 Sounds
    15:01 Final thoughts
    #synth #behringer #clone
    ‪@behringer‬
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  • @D5x610
    @D5x610 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    They fixed an issue with the frequency adjustment by semitone. The old firmware didn't retrigger the oscillator when you adjusted its semitone. Now it does retrigger the oscillator.

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Behringer are actually pretty good at listening to customers and making changes. I like that about the big B.

  • @Andronicus2007
    @Andronicus2007 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Welcome to Mad Gear, the show about the world's most craziest audio tools!

  • @cfytcf
    @cfytcf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Sample & Hold was in the original firmware, Square waves on the LFOs are new with this firmware.

  • @Stevali1966
    @Stevali1966 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The new firmware make this synth so worth the money..

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I thought it was good value before but this puts it on a whole new level. 😁

  • @allanbedford3030
    @allanbedford3030 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great update! Thank you. Anxiously awaiting the arrival of this in Canada :)

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope you receive yours soon. I'm still not sure why the UK seem to have got the first batch though. Share your musical endeavours when you get yours. 😊

  • @bobbyx5373
    @bobbyx5373 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great little video, thanks for sharing.

  • @fairyfingers
    @fairyfingers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi thanks for this video. Do you know if the update contains Hold function for the arpegiator?

  • @micknorthyard815
    @micknorthyard815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Would have been interesting to hear some more sounds with the different modes, couldn't really tell if the original VS character sound is present or not.

  • @celtislam
    @celtislam 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its great!! love it

  • @midinotes
    @midinotes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't have the Pro VS (although tempting!), but I do have the JT-4000. I'm more hopeful now that Behringer might release a similar firmware update for the JT-4000. Definitely would love to have the Sample and Hold Waveform on the LFO, as well as the ability to modulate the filter frequency with the LFO. Love these tiny inexpensive synths, just fun to experiment with.

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fingers crossed! I do think the Pro VS offers better value for money than the JT 4000 and I thoroughly recommend it.

  • @AbsurdTV1
    @AbsurdTV1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what is a good stand alone power adapter for this unit?

  • @skinnyhastrup4614
    @skinnyhastrup4614 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great new stuff. Though, a LFO "ramp" in my world is a reversed Sawtooth, but I'm nitpicking. :)

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @skinnyhastrup4614 I agree. I'm glad they added it especially the S&H. It's a proper little beast now.

  • @kentaccordionist
    @kentaccordionist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice one. Love my pro vs mini. Got big problems with my JT-4000 though, to start with it refused to update firmware, even though synth tool told me there was an update available. Now my iPads and my laptops refuse to recognise it exists. My laptops say unknown usb device isn’t functioning right or something of the sort and my iPads refuse to even do that, a few days ago it was working fine with my iPads. So I can only use it with the capacitive keyboard it has built in. And before any asks yes I did a factory reset, which achieved nothing.

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you updated the synth tribe software. I had to update mine via my Mac. The iPad version of synth tribe does not see it but the latest computer version does.

    • @kentaccordionist
      @kentaccordionist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@madgear303 I bought a new one that arrived today. And after using my windows ten laptop instead of my windows 7 managed to update the new one. I’m sending the old one back. Just bought a kobol I’m testing now. First impressions it’s very good, especially sweeping the 7 oscillator waveforms with the LFO.

  • @TheFatdust
    @TheFatdust 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    very cool and fast update needless to say. but, i want so badly the unison

  • @teamphil
    @teamphil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the “update”. I hope they fix the filter on the jt-4000 too.

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The update here has worked on the oscillators, I don’t believe any changes have been made to the filter as that is an analog component that cannot be changed with a firmware update. So I think the JT 4000s filter is what it is. Although I’m sure improvements could be made elsewhere with that little synth.

    • @teamphil
      @teamphil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@madgear303 they fixed the filter on the pro-800, so I’m sure than can do something with the jt-4000. I’m glad they updated to pro vs mini. It’s a great little synth for only $99

    • @music-ic6tg
      @music-ic6tg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I own a JT-4000 and there is no problem with the filter on this one. What would that be?

    • @teamphil
      @teamphil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@music-ic6tg my cutoff and resonance barely have any effect on the sound.

    • @music-ic6tg
      @music-ic6tg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@teamphil Press Filter Button then scroll to VCF AMT (envelope amount) parameter using SEL encoder, decrease it then you will see your cutoff and reso VR will have control. 0 is full Vr control, 50 half vr half envelope 99 is 100% envelope control. This is normal behaviour.

  • @MrTomb789
    @MrTomb789 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why are the single notes doubling up when recording in the sequencer..? I've noticed this on several Pro Vs Minis

    • @elusivemite
      @elusivemite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's two modes iirc. One chops the held notes over the steps it covers. The other just records the first step. Don't hold me to it. Mind hasn't arrived yet.

  • @Civilian2.0
    @Civilian2.0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How did you update the firmware? I can't find it on the Behringer site.

    • @Andronicus2007
      @Andronicus2007 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You need to install their updater software on a PC and connect it to the Pro VS Mini.

  • @toyzintheattic
    @toyzintheattic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Still no key hold or latch for the Arpeggio

  • @remy5356
    @remy5356 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are the Lfo’s syncable to midi clock? And is there lfo delay?

    • @Andronicus2007
      @Andronicus2007 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably not. Most synths in the 80s didn't have this feature.

  • @shawnrudiman
    @shawnrudiman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Reduce it to one osc/vector. And open the filter wide. That belies any oscillator wave issues (bad cycle editing, different wave shape >than vs og, or aliasing >aka sample/bit rate)

  • @shawnrudiman
    @shawnrudiman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've done hard A/B comparisons with my mini against my original vs. I'm hoping this new firmware address the most aggregious ones. (Bad oscillator wave editing >loop clicks, and lack of aliasing)

    • @yoggyone
      @yoggyone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Let us know!

    • @AbsurdTV1
      @AbsurdTV1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      link or it didint' happen! :)

    • @shawnrudiman
      @shawnrudiman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vintage mode is like real vs..it aliases in the lower octaves like the actual vs does.

  • @kentaccordionist
    @kentaccordionist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now my pro vs mini refuses to update. SYNTHTRIBE tells me there is an update but when I try to perform the update it says it failed. And by screen on the pro vs mini says Bootloader and I have to disconnect the usb and re connect as the power button fails to work. Anyone got any ideas?

    • @lambd01d
      @lambd01d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had the same problem, but it worked after I disconnected the USB and rebooted.

    • @kentaccordionist
      @kentaccordionist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lambd01d have tried that maybe 10 + times and still get the same resaults. Are you on windows or Mac, I’m on windows 7 wondering if my so is to blame, although I updated several other behringer synths in the last week with no problem.

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@kentaccordionistWow, Windows 7, still keeping the faith?!

    • @kentaccordionist
      @kentaccordionist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lundsweden windows 7 has always done me right in the past. It’s just the JT 4000 and the Pro VS Mini that wont update. When I try with the JT 4000 it says one of the devices connected to this computer has malfunctioned and windows does not recognise it. Even my iPad won’t recognise it now. Yet used as a stand alone it still functions…

    • @simoncardie9371
      @simoncardie9371 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@kentaccordionistI doesn't work with Windows 7, only 10 or Mac. I tried it on my Windows 7 first, but nothing! Worked on 10.

  • @johndurrant9262
    @johndurrant9262 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice, but it still doesn't pick up midi sustain signals

  • @Congasjones
    @Congasjones 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think it’s sounding better after this update -much cleaner and I love the dirtier sounds in the vintage setting -no probs updating on windows 10

  • @khawk2012
    @khawk2012 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the Behringer Pro VS mini. Am thinking that is the same one from the video.. i saw a video that said Pro VS Soul. Is that the same one? Am trying to update the firmware but the App only shows ver 1.1.1. How do I get version 1.1.5? Or at least 1.1.2 loaded?

  • @DCol77
    @DCol77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Be wary when updating. I updated it and forgot to save the 10 patches I had made. All gone.

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah that would be a good idea. Although the synthtribe app is good for saving and backing up patches. I guess there will be a new audience of people using hardware synths for their first time and not know about sysex dumps and saving synth patches.

  • @madmac66
    @madmac66 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Still three months away from available in the us and apparently sold out already everywhere in Europe

    • @siektv1714
      @siektv1714 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yesterday I ordered mine at Andertons and it is on the way

    • @Spencers7185
      @Spencers7185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine too 😇

  • @robogod3000
    @robogod3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1 SYNC-OUT OR IN ??

  • @bpablo1829
    @bpablo1829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you glide in this version? :C

  • @simoncardie9371
    @simoncardie9371 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's brilliant, but I wish it had portamento.

    • @Andronicus2007
      @Andronicus2007 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It probably does- buried in some menu.

    • @simoncardie9371
      @simoncardie9371 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Andronicus2007 Unfortunately, it doesn't.

  • @abuelo100ful
    @abuelo100ful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could someone explain me if it's a good idea to buy the pro vs mini instead of the Korg volca key or FM?

    • @leftmono1016
      @leftmono1016 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally depends on what type of sound you’re after.
      Lots of TH-cam demos for all three 👍

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are all quite different synths so will have their own sound. 1 uses FM synthesis, 1 uses Vector synthesis and the volca keys use’s subtractive synthesis. Having owned all 3 I sold the volca keys. The Volca keys is the easiest to program but probably the most limiting in its capabilities. The range of sounds capable from a FM synth is incredible but it is quite a difficult synthesis method to get your head around. The quality of the Pro VS and how it sounds is very good. It can cover most sound bases and if I was to only have 1 it would be this especially if I was new to synthesis and you wanted an interesting synth. Go look at some videos and see which one you like the sound of the best.

    • @dingdong7562
      @dingdong7562 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All three of them are no good!
      Cheap plastic junk that sounds like cheap plastic junk!
      I would recommend the Roland S1! It's a real instrument and sounds a thousand times better!
      The case is better made and is really worth the money 😇

    • @leftmono1016
      @leftmono1016 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dingdong7562 - the Volca Keys sounds like an analog synth, because it is one. It’s cheap but doesn’t sound cheap.
      But I’d agree with you about the S1, probably the best option. I used to have an SH101, so if the bass on the S1 is anything like that I’d be tempted.

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dingdong7562 The S1 might be "better" than the volca keys but it's a totally different sound to the FM and the VS so your comment is moot. The S1 would be useless if you wanted a vector synth or the FM sound. It would also be useless if you wanted a real analog synth with the filter from a MiniKorg-700S. It's fine i guess if you wanted a cheap modelled SH101.

  • @basskraft
    @basskraft 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beringer, where's the MS-1 MK2?

    • @madgear303
      @madgear303  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you’ll know when it’s available. I’ll be interested in knowing of those who bought the ms1 that will buy the mk 2. I know I won’t be.

  • @pianokeyjoe
    @pianokeyjoe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So for those like me that are asking: Where is the firmware update FILE on the website? Behringer has hidden the file in their servers by forcing you to download and use a WINDOWS or MACOS version of the SYNTHTRIBE software that will "fetch" the firmware for you through the specialized program and update the synth for you. ALOT of manufacturers are doing that now forcing you to either use WINDOWS or MACOS to update your gear. If you are using an IPAD, a LINUX or UNIX based computer or device like a raspberry pi, or some such, you are now SOL.. Windows 10 or MAC OS latest or bust. I just got my unit today and noticed I can not place a firmware file in the synth in a file browser on my Linux machine and press a combination of buttons on my synth while powering on to "enter" firmware update mode.. Some synths still allow the end user to do that, but most like Behringer and Arturia and Korg do not.. So if you want to back up your old firmware or have a back up file, you will need to know where the app is downloading the file temporarily during the update download process, but even then.. how will YOU apply it, without the specialized app? Otherwise, great synths!

  • @skaboosh
    @skaboosh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh...it has problems...I just ordered one

  • @giorgionieddu8343
    @giorgionieddu8343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want the glide..🤢