Exactly as described here. It does not matter if a battery is 10x, 100x better than everything else on the market, if it needs unobtainium materials and costs to make the global GDP. It would be utterly useless. A battery which costs 1/10th of best alternative (everything boils down to cost, so ease of making, materials etc), needs only to be 1/10th as good to match the best alternative, but if it's as good, it means by cost comparison it is 10x better. If ease of making, ease of use, and used materials were not part of the equation, we'd all be probably running fission reactors in our backyards or RNGs. Ultimately every factor leads to cost, whether ease of making, ease of use, acquiring materials(=material cost) etc.
I actually live in in the neighbourhood Robert, couldn't believe it when I saw your lab was a few miles away! Would love to come down and see what you are doing there. I spend a lot of time working with Li-On so seeing your work would be fantastic :)
Rechargeability, longevity....a mantra for the Batterysmith... Hate spending on disposables, even it they have a lot of power and run time. Even the $100 lithiums for my tools don't last. Obsolescence ought not be a design feature.
You sir are a true inspiration!! Love your attitude, ethics and general banter. I've subscribed, and im working through the extensive back catalogue. Ceers!
I love you honesty.... and your videos are great. They inspire to actually do something and try diffrent things. Your channels is actually even getting my son interested and he's ten.... he's learning to love science.
Robert, you are awesome. Very excited by your invitation to visit you and make batteries. That is such a great idea. I live in Australia, so it is a little difficult to get there. I notice that there are more Australians in the same position. What would it take to get you down here? I am very sure we could guarantee you an enthusiastic audience. Would love to hear from you.
I suspect you be giving the sloth like battery business a right wakey wakey event horizon to consider with so many of us out here inspired to having a go ourselves Robert, WTG.
What you are doing will change the world, in today's understanding. And it is very interesting to watch how you "do something". Your videos encourage me to conduct my experiments, in most cases unsuccessful, but it's interesting. Thank you.
same here mate - you just don't see the thousands of failures but most stuff goes wrong lol - and to be honest you learn more from something that does go wrong
What I'd like to do is attach an atmospheric antennae to charge them. Sky's the limit...Pun intended. :) Thank you for shining your brilliance on humanity, and for those that can look at it without sunglasses. This can be truly transformative to society.
It's unfortunate that some people try to scam, cheat and steal anytime they can. First world use of a developed and manufactured battery like this would explode the electronics industry and possibly the auto industry. 3rd world use and production could make lives and communities drastically better. Power to run air conditioning, pump water, run medical devices etc are taken for granted by most of us. That would be life changing for the majority of the people alive today. I hope you guys succeed, best wishes!
Any chance your moving your lab to Australia? That's the only way I'd see it. 😂 but I do have a lot of information on how to make them I just doubt my ability to carbonise the active material.
Robert Poynton agree... you should consider moving to Australia!! I would quit my lithium battery making job and work with you on that mad mega supercapacitor... so much POWEEERR =]
Totally love your idea about making your stage 1 batts available for grassroots cottage industries so they can made affordably by local communities!. Thats exactly what im developing too, a low cost and lowtech eco batt design & manifacturing method for a small sustainable development project ive helped to set up with a good friend for Mayan and local communities on the Mexican island of Cozumel. The idea being able to train peeps & social enterprises to enable them to make there own affordable solar storage batts for micro solar systems eg around 100 to 250watt. The cost of deep cycle lead acid batts are normally the biggest cost of micro solar systems for the developing world and are seriously unafforable for most families. Solar panels are now a $1 a watt, and highly efficient 100watt MPPT charge controllers are around $20 now, so the bottle neck is very much affordable energy storage. Im using a zinc powder based battery chemistry thats already been proven to do 10K cycles in the lab. What ive managed to do is to dramatically lower the costs involved, by using freely available materials in a innovative way thats works great, (plus especially designed to be easy to fabricate in a V low tech environment). My latest test cells are now maxing out at a very impressive 1.5mWhrs/cm2, and with some extra improvements it looks like 3mWhrs/cm2 is now within reach at last!. Would be great to have a chat with you when your not too busy. Im always interested in doing collabrative projects especially helping to provide all sorts of practical eco solution & empowerment techologies for grass roots sustainable development micro cottage industries\ social enterprises focused in Latin America and around the Caribbean :) (y)
lol - don't make it too grand mate - i get around 200 e-mails a day and tend to appreciate to the point emails - and i hate to say this but please don't assume I will remember you - I am afraid I probably won't so a quick intro of who you are always helps
Hi Robert, I am from India, been following your experiments for a while. I want to take the practice further here in India and would love to create a cottage industry and study center. I did follow a particular post and made a cap using Al foil and charcoal. It did hold charge and discharge time was more than the charge time. I would love to take this forward and have an industry to replace lead acid battery. Would you like to help me out with this venture. I will follow you anyways and experiment. You are awesome because you don't subscribe to the black box. I am inspired by this very thought. I am in the same page on this as you are. How can I contact you. I too have an awesome discovery about hydrogen rich water and the impact on plants, which I would like to share freely with anyone and especially with you. Thanks for the great posts. Really appreciate. Cheers mate!
Hola Roberto, I'm writing you from Mexico. I've been experimenting with batteries for a while now and it's good business. Some folks around my hometown are learning about my hand made products and have sold several, but some improvement is always welcome. I've got a chemistry degree and already read David Linden's Handbook of Batteries (remarkable book), so I got some idea about the trade. Would you care if I take a plane to the UK and pay you a little visit at your lab, now that you are open to it? ¡Saludos desde México!
Robert Murray-Smith Hello again. What do you think about graphite as an ingredient for home made refractory? Would it be any use? I'd be delighted to hear your thoughts on graphite use for high temperature furnaces.
Victor ST graphite is useful and suitable ingredient for consumable part like the high temperature crucible, but aluminum oxide bricks are preferred for the kilns internal structure because the alumina bricks remain stable at temperatures where the graphite will sublimate into co2. good luck :)
You're right. I have no experience with refractory materials, so it makes sense that graphite will sublimate under heavy duty heat. Thanks for the input.
can you print with your graphine ink, what would work best. screen printing or something more modern like ink jet or even laser printing. could you layer prints on top of one another or mix methods of printing
Will you be selling your batteries anytime soon? I live in Australia and have to use a mobility scooter. The company I deal with know nothing about batteries and only sell the 12v deep cycle lead acid batteries for it. I really want better batteries as these cost $500 for a pair and only last a year. I'd be prepared to pay more for something that had a better life span. I was very excited when I saw the battery you made for your electric bike.
By my reckoning a 12 volt 150 AH lead acid battery contains 6.5 million Coulombs of energy, so rather better than a mega Farad capacitor. Perhaps I am missing something?
yep -- a coulomb is a unit of charge not energy. The work a device can do is measured in joules - so the same number of coulombs delivered at a higher voltage delivers more joules.
another great video Robert really keep your joy of being able to laugh and be joyful while telling it the way it is .... fantastic Robert ... fascinating video by the way very instructive ...cheers robert...just wanted to mention that I have exactly the solution for you in regards to the optimal battery ...I'm a passionate inventor and energy is my game ...and have an invention in regards to an optimal battery ...an optimal battery in my view is one that combines divers acpects of physics and is not just composed with a one trick Pony ..of course as you know batteries and how they conventionally work have little changed over the years and even in now adays time ,ok we have now in view of super capacitors and similar models but even at that it's still a very basic component set up Wich comprises an actual battery ...that's what I believe is the main problem ..and that's where the battery itself must not uniquely be binded by a single idea that to achieve the ideal battery that we are confined to a singular routed component that magical does all wonders ...wonders However can be achieved but one must implement a diversity of right components that work together as a unit to achieve the desired result ..all I'm saying is sometimes combining a bit of the old with a bit of the new and some extras within a battery system can only approach you to a higher percentage of performance rather that being stuck with a one mainframe set up .,..cheers Robert have alot more to say but will talk again soon ....have a wonderful evening in the meantime ...I keep forgetting ...the time one difference...I'm in Quebec Canada its evening over here and probably morning to you over there in Australia ... LoL....have a wonderful day cheers
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Would you invest knowing that with low prices you will not have no gain. This is the truth. LiIon were successful thanks to the spread of mobile phones and laptops, but make batteries for electric vehicles and PV storage... is another story.
you can balance between highly profitable mobile electronics and low profitable automotive, we must invest to solve the energy constrains and drawbacks !
we must change our attitude as customer and match products with reality, we don't need V6 or higer, we don't need 12 seat's, we can use small/tiny electric cars like smart or twizzy, sad but true. We can't eliminate the car, it's very useful but we must stop wasting the planet, don't you think ?
I am talking on the battery business actually. Do you have set -up procedure for taking on candidates for Village Cottage Battery Shop. I ask because I am interested.
good work brother, i would love to talk to you about my oxides cells. i have some amazing results pulsing coils and oxide cells. and some strange effect with spark gaps. and some voltage maintaining with the cells. all around did some amazing test i need some gear to continue my testing. anyhow i would love to chat.and thx for being a open source. i also share like you. peace to you brother.
i have had a look at a few of your vids mate - awesome stuff. I am afraid I don't really go in for long discussions but that is only because i have so little time. I try to answer all emails and posts and do vids and do my own experiments and that just doesn't leave a lot left in the day - i sleep about 4 hours a night, 2 hours at home and the rest of the time in the lab - including weekends and holidays. I know i was long winded in the above but it is in the way of an apology for not really being available to chat - sorry mate
What do you think about powering a computer with a battery, right now if you want all the right equipment it would cost you about $800. Or if you want a PSU for an extra 20 minutes during a power outage that cost $130. What if I said I wanted a battery that can run a computer all night for $130.
I saw a video of yours while ago about an oxygen powered battery. I wonder what that looks like scaled-up to like the size of a minivan. Would it power the fans needed to pump enough air in to generate electricity at all.
I have to agree with what you have said, I have laugh at a game called PORTAL , they had a potato put out power . When I was in school , that is along time , as I n my 60 + , my parents very intelligent, be cause of a aca
think another point that may be relevant, is it durability ... as its all good if ya get a good battery, with good density etc ... but if it will only last a few cycles, or a time frame of say 6 months it may impact its usability ... Kinda like Lead Acid .. you can make it as Higher capacity etc as ya want.. but its life cycle is limited, and needs replacement. every few years or so.. on another subject/but related to lead acid.. you heard of the Alum conversion for Lead Acid ? .. its claim is even a heavily 'sulphated' battery at its end of life (so good voltage, but no capacity) can be converted (lead acid drained, Alum solution used instead) and the capacity returns, long term ! you done any work on this atall ??
durability is a loaded question mate - if it lasts for a lot of cycles but cost of manufacture and disposal is high then is it better than a low cycle number where manufacture and disposal cost is low? there is always a cross over point. There is another point your missing - you may not think much of it but a lot of folks do - if the things last for so long that you have to make one and you are done - what about jobs? - what's the social and economic cost of a device that lasts 500 years? It might seem like a good idea but the cost to communities can be high - that usually doesn't matter to people who don't live in those communities but considerations like that do matter I have looked at alum but what's the point of me doing something when thousands of others are working on that
yes very loaded thats true ! cross over point defo needs to be attained .. durable enough to warrant it as a retail product, but not to last too long so you have no upkeep/return custom... dont think you could ever really get to a stage were too long would be a total problem ? as nothing last forever ! brakage/lost/ just needing more than one etc ... LOTS of people needing one ! and as for alum conversions, just wanted you opinion, if youve looked into it enough to say its all hokum or is worthy of trying it out ! and Thanyou for you Videos, and especially your reply !
well ive gathered most stuff to do some simple tests... will maybe try remember and post some kinda result here at some point ! Thankyou for you time in posting. as im sure its rather valuable at the moment !
I've got some ideas and mass produce some batteries , solar panels , hemp based plastic , houses, etc.. recently gov. Of India opened cannabis production for various purpose. I am trying to get all the docs done and have some expirememts ideas to use India's nano medicine tech "Bhasma" to produce and install.. will have a few weeks to get my lab setup, you are for sure an inspiration for such work.. I've been expirementing with many things for 5 years now.. how shall we go about doing this ???
In few weeks I hopefully get capital to set up a lab , not sure about the wooded stove though.. reality is companies are spending millions of USD to make these things and we can change that ..
Since your 🔋 is done maybe you might some time to come down to India for 1-3 months and help finish our 🔋, solar and hopefully (hydrogen) and hemp plastic making process ? It will take a month or so to conduct initial expirememts and need someone to fine tune it and apply for parents
Robert! #CNBC has a story on Cambridge university using nanocatalysts to make hydrogen fuel from biomass, water and sunlight! works under ambient conditions! awesome new tech!
i have been sending it around on twitter and facebook too. it will be very big by the end of the week. it could allow households to run a car like the mirai at no cost
you are referring to this i assume ! www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/scientists-harness-solar-power-to-produce-clean-hydrogen-from-biomass "...The new technology relies on a simple photocatalytic conversion process. Catalytic nanoparticles are added to alkaline water in which the biomass is suspended. This is then placed in front of a light in the lab which mimics solar light. The solution is ideal for absorbing this light and converting the biomass into gaseous hydrogen which can then be collected from the headspace. The hydrogen is free of fuel-cell inhibitors, such as carbon monoxide, which allows it to be used for power. The nanoparticle is able to absorb energy from solar light and use it to undertake complex chemical reactions. In this case, it rearranges the atoms in the water and biomass to form hydrogen fuel and other organic chemicals, such as formic acid and carbonate...." in effect use existing RMS ink formulas to transfer natural heat/infrared to the woody stuff and provide the core solvents etc ""Lignocellulose is nature's equivalent to armoured concrete. It consists of strong, highly crystalline cellulose fibres, that are interwoven with lignin and hemicellulose which act as a glue. This rigid structure has evolved to give plants and trees mechanical stability and protect them from degradation, and makes chemical utilisation of lignocellulose so challenging."" as for finding a good use for generic Lignocellulose,lignin and hemicellulose, then you would probably get some good autoclaved nano compounds for a basic conductive ink,microwave weld, and making soluble 3d printed moulds for composite parts and lots more....
Testing a battery claim : A few 100W light bulbs and a timer , a seat , a cup of tea and maybe some magazines or a radio listening to the cricket. Cannot believe people still do this selling snake oil ...
Have a battery with 3000 Kw hrs.Top spec and only one drawback--------it's in a black box? Power density to dream about------min investment round £7.500,000. No---you cant open the box !!
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Your a noble man, the world need more of you.
I agree.
cheers mate
lol
I was thinking exactly that.
Refurbish battery business.I have spent months studying fixing a car battery and found a great website at Rapid renew roadmap (check it out on google)
I love the idea of villagers around the world making their own batteries. You have a great ethic very inspiring. Power to the people!
cheers mate
Exactly as described here. It does not matter if a battery is 10x, 100x better than everything else on the market, if it needs unobtainium materials and costs to make the global GDP. It would be utterly useless.
A battery which costs 1/10th of best alternative (everything boils down to cost, so ease of making, materials etc), needs only to be 1/10th as good to match the best alternative, but if it's as good, it means by cost comparison it is 10x better.
If ease of making, ease of use, and used materials were not part of the equation, we'd all be probably running fission reactors in our backyards or RNGs.
Ultimately every factor leads to cost, whether ease of making, ease of use, acquiring materials(=material cost) etc.
absolutely mate
skaltura cost vs performance matters..
I actually live in in the neighbourhood Robert, couldn't believe it when I saw your lab was a few miles away! Would love to come down and see what you are doing there. I spend a lot of time working with Li-On so seeing your work would be fantastic :)
you're welcome anytime mate
Rechargeability, longevity....a mantra for the Batterysmith... Hate spending on disposables, even it they have a lot of power and run time. Even the $100 lithiums for my tools don't last. Obsolescence ought not be a design feature.
nice one mate
My admiration for you has no bounds. Essence of science is to experiment. Keep up the good work.
cheers mate
You sir are a true inspiration!! Love your attitude, ethics and general banter.
I've subscribed, and im working through the extensive back catalogue. Ceers!
awesome mate - cheers
As always, love your philosophy and your open heart Robert. Keep on keeping on. Same goes for the folks working with you.
cheers mate and bless your heart
👐 Such a wonderful outlay and explanation. 👍 The next time I'm in the UK, I'd love to visit your lab Robert. ☺
you are more than welcome
That opening also described the graphene industry.
Great foundation showing how to develop critical thinking. Cheers...
cheers mate
I love you honesty.... and your videos are great. They inspire to actually do something and try diffrent things. Your channels is actually even getting my son interested and he's ten.... he's learning to love science.
that is awesome other mate - thanks for taking the time to say so
I would love to visit your lab but I live in Australia. Your Video's are the best thanks for sharing them.
cheers mate and that's a shame you are so far away
Robert, you are awesome. Very excited by your invitation to visit you and make batteries. That is such a great idea. I live in Australia, so it is a little difficult to get there. I notice that there are more Australians in the same position. What would it take to get you down here? I am very sure we could guarantee you an enthusiastic audience. Would love to hear from you.
a plane ticket and somewhere to stay mate - i have been to Oz once - love the place
I suspect you be giving the sloth like battery business a right wakey wakey event horizon to consider with so many of us out here inspired to having a go ourselves Robert, WTG.
awesome mate - if a loof people are trying there is bound to be change
What you are doing will change the world, in today's understanding. And it is very interesting to watch how you "do something". Your videos encourage me to conduct my experiments, in most cases unsuccessful, but it's interesting. Thank you.
same here mate - you just don't see the thousands of failures but most stuff goes wrong lol - and to be honest you learn more from something that does go wrong
Its the old story Bob. People who dont make mistakes never get to make anything worthwhile. Or something like that. LOL
Just suggested making one of these batteries as a project at school.
awesome
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... not all heroes wear capes!
What I'd like to do is attach an atmospheric antennae to charge them. Sky's the limit...Pun intended. :) Thank you for shining your brilliance on humanity, and for those that can look at it without sunglasses. This can be truly transformative to society.
Nice idea mate - we are thinking of trying it
It's unfortunate that some people try to scam, cheat and steal anytime they can. First world use of a developed and manufactured battery like this would explode the electronics industry and possibly the auto industry. 3rd world use and production could make lives and communities drastically better.
Power to run air conditioning, pump water, run medical devices etc are taken for granted by most of us. That would be life changing for the majority of the people alive today. I hope you guys succeed, best wishes!
Love that chat! Kindred spirits indeed!
cheers mate
I've witnessed fast charging batteries. Fully charged in just a few minutes unlike normal ones that take hours.
cool
Any chance your moving your lab to Australia? That's the only way I'd see it. 😂 but I do have a lot of information on how to make them I just doubt my ability to carbonise the active material.
Robert Poynton agree... you should consider moving to Australia!! I would quit my lithium battery making job and work with you on that mad mega supercapacitor... so much POWEEERR =]
ElectricBike not skilled like you guys...but I am also in Australia and would work for him just for the support..whatever I can do...
lol - i'll keep it in mind mate
lol
Great talking points! Ever think of making and selling battery experiment kits?
yes mate - but i would spend all my time making kits up instead of experimenting
Good point!
Hi Rob,
Been there....done that !!
One thing you've omitted to mention is your commercial plan for your battery.
it's in a different vido mate - i think it is called battery strategy or something like that
So when will we see the phase 10 battery in the market place ? !!
lol - no idea
great talk like your videos gives me some ideas keep up the good work
Totally love your idea about making your stage 1 batts available for grassroots cottage industries so they can made affordably by local communities!. Thats exactly what im developing too, a low cost and lowtech eco batt design & manifacturing method for a small sustainable development project ive helped to set up with a good friend for Mayan and local communities on the Mexican island of Cozumel. The idea being able to train peeps & social enterprises to enable them to make there own affordable solar storage batts for micro solar systems eg around 100 to 250watt. The cost of deep cycle lead acid batts are normally the biggest cost of micro solar systems for the developing world and are seriously unafforable for most families. Solar panels are now a $1 a watt, and highly efficient 100watt MPPT charge controllers are around $20 now, so the bottle neck is very much affordable energy storage. Im using a zinc powder based battery chemistry thats already been proven to do 10K cycles in the lab. What ive managed to do is to dramatically lower the costs involved, by using freely available materials in a innovative way thats works great, (plus especially designed to be easy to fabricate in a V low tech environment). My latest test cells are now maxing out at a very impressive 1.5mWhrs/cm2, and with some extra improvements it looks like 3mWhrs/cm2 is now within reach at last!. Would be great to have a chat with you when your not too busy. Im always interested in doing collabrative projects especially helping to provide all sorts of practical eco solution & empowerment techologies for grass roots sustainable development micro cottage industries\ social enterprises focused in Latin America and around the Caribbean :) (y)
sounds good mate - feel free to ring anytime - i think the number is on the website
Cheers mate!, will have a good look for it :)
cool - if not my email is robertmurraysmith64@gmail.com
Thanks Robert, will certainly write a grand email to you tomorrow, cheers man :) (y)
lol - don't make it too grand mate - i get around 200 e-mails a day and tend to appreciate to the point emails - and i hate to say this but please don't assume I will remember you - I am afraid I probably won't so a quick intro of who you are always helps
Nice exploration to battery business world and towards decision making.
cheers mate
Quality honest people, a
nd Robert's videos are an unbeatable HOOT!
lol - cheers mate
By heck! I'd love to visit. My problem is disability and the fact that I live in Argyll. I'll see what can be done. :O)
awesome mate - you're welcome anytime
Very good video mate....You make several very good points and provide some good advice. As always, I enjoyed this very much....God Bless....
Hi Robert, I am from India, been following your experiments for a while. I want to take the practice further here in India and would love to create a cottage industry and study center. I did follow a particular post and made a cap using Al foil and charcoal. It did hold charge and discharge time was more than the charge time. I would love to take this forward and have an industry to replace lead acid battery. Would you like to help me out with this venture. I will follow you anyways and experiment. You are awesome because you don't subscribe to the black box. I am inspired by this very thought. I am in the same page on this as you are. How can I contact you. I too have an awesome discovery about hydrogen rich water and the impact on plants, which I would like to share freely with anyone and especially with you. Thanks for the great posts. Really appreciate. Cheers mate!
Good stuff Robert!
Please make them last 20 years and Cradle to Cradle.
Cheers!
lol - ok mate
You are a Glinda in a world full of Evanoras and Theodoras.
lol WKD fan?
Hola Roberto, I'm writing you from Mexico. I've been experimenting with batteries for a while now and it's good business. Some folks around my hometown are learning about my hand made products and have sold several, but some improvement is always welcome. I've got a chemistry degree and already read David Linden's Handbook of Batteries (remarkable book), so I got some idea about the trade. Would you care if I take a plane to the UK and pay you a little visit at your lab, now that you are open to it? ¡Saludos desde México!
everybody is welcome to visit the lab mate
Robert Murray-Smith Hello again. What do you think about graphite as an ingredient for home made refractory? Would it be any use? I'd be delighted to hear your thoughts on graphite use for high temperature furnaces.
I don't have any thoughts mate - not my area i am afraid
Victor ST graphite is useful and suitable ingredient for consumable part like the high temperature crucible, but aluminum oxide bricks are preferred for the kilns internal structure because the alumina bricks remain stable at temperatures where the graphite will sublimate into co2. good luck :)
You're right. I have no experience with refractory materials, so it makes sense that graphite will sublimate under heavy duty heat. Thanks for the input.
can you print with your graphine ink, what would work best. screen printing or something more modern like ink jet or even laser printing. could you layer prints on top of one another or mix methods of printing
Hello Robert, where are you in UK. I am a twizy owner having an appointment (requested to cancel) in Loughborough tomorrow, 14 Feb 2018. Klaus
Are people making the batteries now? I just found out today about the battery, how is it going?
Will you be selling your batteries anytime soon? I live in Australia and have to use a mobility scooter. The company I deal with know nothing about batteries and only sell the 12v deep cycle lead acid batteries for it. I really want better batteries as these cost $500 for a pair and only last a year. I'd be prepared to pay more for something that had a better life span. I was very excited when I saw the battery you made for your electric bike.
I am just not sure when they will go on the market mate
By my reckoning a 12 volt 150 AH lead acid battery contains 6.5 million Coulombs of energy, so rather better than a mega Farad capacitor. Perhaps I am missing something?
yep -- a coulomb is a unit of charge not energy. The work a device can do is measured in joules - so the same number of coulombs delivered at a higher voltage delivers more joules.
I need same good busines idea.. I like battery business.
another great video Robert really keep your joy of being able to laugh and be joyful while telling it the way it is .... fantastic Robert ... fascinating video by the way very instructive ...cheers robert...just wanted to mention that I have exactly the solution for you in regards to the optimal battery ...I'm a passionate inventor and energy is my game ...and have an invention in regards to an optimal battery ...an optimal battery in my view is one that combines divers acpects of physics and is not just composed with a one trick Pony ..of course as you know batteries and how they conventionally work have little changed over the years and even in now adays time ,ok we have now in view of super capacitors and similar models but even at that it's still a very basic component set up Wich comprises an actual battery ...that's what I believe is the main problem ..and that's where the battery itself must not uniquely be binded by a single idea that to achieve the ideal battery that we are confined to a singular routed component that magical does all wonders ...wonders However can be achieved but one must implement a diversity of right components that work together as a unit to achieve the desired result ..all I'm saying is sometimes combining a bit of the old with a bit of the new and some extras within a battery system can only approach you to a higher percentage of performance rather that being stuck with a one mainframe set up .,..cheers Robert have alot more to say but will talk again soon ....have a wonderful evening in the meantime ...I keep forgetting ...the time one difference...I'm in Quebec Canada its evening over here and probably morning to you over there in Australia ... LoL....have a wonderful day cheers
hiya mate - i live in England - why did you think I was Australian lol
an honest mistake I don't know why I said Australia .... LoL sorry about that Robert :)
always wanted to visit England one day I must make it down ..a wonderful country
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lol - no worries mate - it's not an insult to be considered Australian lol
liars are terrible, they are stumbling blocks to progress
yep
it's a great moment to invest in batteries, architecture and chemistry, automotive and electronics are having great demand increase.
Would you invest knowing that with low prices you will not have no gain.
This is the truth.
LiIon were successful thanks to the spread of mobile phones and laptops, but make batteries for electric vehicles and PV storage... is another story.
you can balance between highly profitable mobile electronics and low profitable automotive, we must invest to solve the energy constrains and drawbacks !
Low prices means high volume sales,people can afford to use them and will use them so any investment will be successful. Its a no brainer!
I hope for all car over 50K$ so less people will buy and less car on the road and less pollution and less earth resources destroy.
we must change our attitude as customer and match products with reality, we don't need V6 or higer, we don't need 12 seat's, we can use small/tiny electric cars like smart or twizzy, sad but true. We can't eliminate the car, it's very useful but we must stop wasting the planet, don't you think ?
I am talking on the battery business actually. Do you have set -up procedure for taking on candidates for Village Cottage Battery Shop. I ask because I am interested.
good work brother, i would love to talk to you about my oxides cells. i have some amazing results pulsing coils and oxide cells. and some strange effect with spark gaps. and some voltage maintaining with the cells. all around did some amazing test i need some gear to continue my testing. anyhow i would love to chat.and thx for being a open source. i also share like you. peace to you brother.
i have had a look at a few of your vids mate - awesome stuff. I am afraid I don't really go in for long discussions but that is only because i have so little time. I try to answer all emails and posts and do vids and do my own experiments and that just doesn't leave a lot left in the day - i sleep about 4 hours a night, 2 hours at home and the rest of the time in the lab - including weekends and holidays. I know i was long winded in the above but it is in the way of an apology for not really being available to chat - sorry mate
thank you for the reply brother, very cool. yes i understand i will keep in touch and do my best to help.great work, thanks for being you. peace bro.
thanks mate and thanks for understanding
What's the kado battery Robert you mentioned . can brown paper be used. can a cubic meter cell be made?
do you mean Cadex mate? - if you do that's a test machine not a battery
ok all good,
What do you think about powering a computer with a battery, right now if you want all the right equipment it would cost you about $800. Or if you want a PSU for an extra 20 minutes during a power outage that cost $130. What if I said I wanted a battery that can run a computer all night for $130.
You know because solar power and Bitcoin mining.
I saw a video of yours while ago about an oxygen powered battery. I wonder what that looks like scaled-up to like the size of a minivan. Would it power the fans needed to pump enough air in to generate electricity at all.
I have to agree with what you have said, I have laugh at a game called PORTAL , they had a potato put out power . When I was in school , that is along time , as I n my 60 + , my parents very intelligent, be cause of a aca
awesome
think another point that may be relevant, is it durability ...
as its all good if ya get a good battery, with good density etc ... but if it will only last a few cycles, or a time frame of say 6 months it may impact its usability ...
Kinda like Lead Acid .. you can make it as Higher capacity etc as ya want.. but its life cycle is limited, and needs replacement. every few years or so..
on another subject/but related to lead acid.. you heard of the Alum conversion for Lead Acid ? ..
its claim is even a heavily 'sulphated' battery at its end of life (so good voltage, but no capacity) can be converted (lead acid drained, Alum solution used instead)
and the capacity returns, long term !
you done any work on this atall ??
durability is a loaded question mate - if it lasts for a lot of cycles but cost of manufacture and disposal is high then is it better than a low cycle number where manufacture and disposal cost is low? there is always a cross over point. There is another point your missing - you may not think much of it but a lot of folks do - if the things last for so long that you have to make one and you are done - what about jobs? - what's the social and economic cost of a device that lasts 500 years? It might seem like a good idea but the cost to communities can be high - that usually doesn't matter to people who don't live in those communities but considerations like that do matter
I have looked at alum but what's the point of me doing something when thousands of others are working on that
yes very loaded thats true !
cross over point defo needs to be attained .. durable enough to warrant it as a retail product, but not to last too long so you have no upkeep/return custom... dont think you could ever really get to a stage were too long would be a total problem ? as nothing last forever ! brakage/lost/ just needing more than one etc ... LOTS of people needing one !
and as for alum conversions, just wanted you opinion, if youve looked into it enough to say its all hokum or is worthy of trying it out !
and Thanyou for you Videos, and especially your reply !
I haven't looked into enough I am afraid mate
well ive gathered most stuff to do some simple tests... will maybe try remember and post some kinda result here at some point !
Thankyou for you time in posting. as im sure its rather valuable at the moment !
awesome mate - i look forward to it
I've got some ideas and mass produce some batteries , solar panels , hemp based plastic , houses, etc.. recently gov. Of India opened cannabis production for various purpose. I am trying to get all the docs done and have some expirememts ideas to use India's nano medicine tech "Bhasma" to produce and install.. will have a few weeks to get my lab setup, you are for sure an inspiration for such work.. I've been expirementing with many things for 5 years now.. how shall we go about doing this ???
Trying to expirementing with wooden oven to heat up things at 800 degrees..
Also exploring hydrogen engines for rockets.. it's all looks so much more provable than few years back..
Instead of being some mad people talking nonsense, we can actually see some light
In few weeks I hopefully get capital to set up a lab , not sure about the wooded stove though.. reality is companies are spending millions of USD to make these things and we can change that ..
Since your 🔋 is done maybe you might some time to come down to India for 1-3 months and help finish our 🔋, solar and hopefully (hydrogen) and hemp plastic making process ? It will take a month or so to conduct initial expirememts and need someone to fine tune it and apply for parents
Robert! #CNBC has a story on Cambridge university using nanocatalysts to make hydrogen fuel from biomass, water and sunlight! works under ambient conditions! awesome new tech!
i'll look it up mate
i have been sending it around on twitter and facebook too. it will be very big by the end of the week. it could allow households to run a car like the mirai at no cost
awesome mate
you are referring to this i assume !
www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/scientists-harness-solar-power-to-produce-clean-hydrogen-from-biomass
"...The new technology relies on a simple photocatalytic conversion process. Catalytic nanoparticles are added to alkaline water in which the biomass is suspended. This is then placed in front of a light in the lab which mimics solar light. The solution is ideal for absorbing this light and converting the biomass into gaseous hydrogen which can then be collected from the headspace. The hydrogen is free of fuel-cell inhibitors, such as carbon monoxide, which allows it to be used for power.
The nanoparticle is able to absorb energy from solar light and use it to undertake complex chemical reactions. In this case, it rearranges the atoms in the water and biomass to form hydrogen fuel and other organic chemicals, such as formic acid and carbonate...."
in effect use existing RMS ink formulas to transfer natural heat/infrared to the woody stuff and provide the core solvents etc
""Lignocellulose is nature's equivalent to armoured concrete. It consists of strong, highly crystalline cellulose fibres, that are interwoven with lignin and hemicellulose which act as a glue. This rigid structure has evolved to give plants and trees mechanical stability and protect them from degradation, and makes chemical utilisation of lignocellulose so challenging.""
as for finding a good use for generic Lignocellulose,lignin and hemicellulose, then you would probably get some good autoclaved nano compounds for a basic conductive ink,microwave weld, and making soluble 3d printed moulds for composite parts and lots more....
yeah university of cambridge in england
Testing a battery claim : A few 100W light bulbs and a timer , a seat , a cup of tea and maybe some magazines or a radio listening to the cricket. Cannot believe people still do this selling snake oil ...
happens all the time mate
Hello good sir, would love to come by in September where are you located?
canterbury in the UK
Fantastic, thanks for getting back so quickly! Is there a way to contact you to work out details at an appropriate time?
my email is robertmurraysmith64@gmail.com - please remind me who you are in the email - i get a lot of emails mate
I can only imagine! Thanks again, really looking forward to it!
awesome mate
Have a battery with 3000 Kw hrs.Top spec and only one drawback--------it's in a black box? Power density to dream about------min investment round £7.500,000. No---you cant open the box !!
lol
Any opinions on EESTOR?
Nope
I have spent months researching into fixing a car battery and found an awesome website at Rapid renew roadmap (check it out on google)
Rob can i come over and make a game changer, maybe a g-C3N4 from scratch i mean of course. LoL
anytime you want mate lol
Hello Robert. Thank you for this video. Can I please have your email?
robertmurraysmith64@gmail.com
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great talk like your videos gives me some ideas keep up the good work
awesome mate