I first saw Vader during his WWF run, infact I think it was 1998 that I first saw Vader when he was feuding with Goldust and they had some decent matches but then he got used as jobber to Kane and I always felt he could of been more... then I saw his WCW run and realized he WAS a legit monster and always wondered why WWF didn't get THAT version of Vader... but as Jim said, he was 3 years past his prime by the time he joined WWF, too many injuries and weight issues.
Ikr exactly what is jrs problem he has lived a blessed life lived a dream most of us could only dream of and made good money because of the fans so why be so miserable and seem to have such contempt towards them ,the guy is a prat
The WWF knew what they were getting when hired Vader. The problem wasn't the weight, the problem was not booking him like a monster. He should of been squashing guys in 5 minute matches and instead they had him chasing HBK around the ring for 20 minutes and selling like a coward. Watch his match against Razor at IYH, the Kliq buried Vader the same way they buried Bam Bam.
This felt like a bit of a burial tbh And I know JR loved Vader but how many times can we bash the guy for his hygiene versus his actual career. And missing the spot at Summerslam still doesnt justify Michaels yelling “MOOOVE” and kicking him in the head,you improvise like a pro and keep going. I wish Conrad did this episode.
He was just telling the truth. It sounds like Vader didn't want to help himself. I'm sorry he's dead don't get me wrong,but it sounds like he was stubborn and only cared about himself at time in both companies. The truth hurts sometimes.
I’m actually shocked Jim Miss remembers the length of time. Ron Simmons was WCW champion.. he said Ron only held the title for two weeks and odd one for him to all of those title. He had title the next clash of champions, Halloween havoc, even at Starrcade that year, Ron went in his champion. It was shortly after that he lost the belt. On the championship and then I think it was something like New Year’s Eve, or like the December because it was a week or so after Starrcade . So, Ron Simmons was champion for almost half the year. Five months at least.
When I see that WCW title the first name I think of and the first name most fans will say is Vader and at my first live show Vader walked past me and that helmet terrified me to the point where I never booed him again
Don't get me wrong, I prefer Conrad hosting just like everyone else. He really brings out the humor in JR, his voice, flow and cadence, I love a Conrad Thompson podcast. But Paul works his ass off and he's reading from the same notes Conrad would be, and I just feel like JR was a little harsh on him on this episode. Especially repeatedly calling Paul a "dirt sheet guy". First of all, how many podcasts has he done with Conrad that weren't outlined by articles from Dave Meltzer or Wade Keller? And secondly, good ol' JR calling Paul a dirt sheet guy is pot calling the kettle black. Don't forget, Jim Ross was fired in '94 around the time of the steroid trial for leaking insider information to Meltzer and Keller. He's joked about it with Conrad before, and said that he always read the Observer back then.
Why in gods name would anyone ask Jim a question if he's just going to treat you like your a jerkoff when he answers it ... I mean I love the guy... but god damn... just rude as fck
Glad to see Vader getting some of the love and appreciation he deserves... Even though it's late. Better late than never. #VaderTime
I like Vader but he needed a wash. That is a permanent stain on his record. Dirt lingers.
Always going to be one of my favourite heels.
I first saw Vader during his WWF run, infact I think it was 1998 that I first saw Vader when he was feuding with Goldust and they had some decent matches but then he got used as jobber to Kane and I always felt he could of been more... then I saw his WCW run and realized he WAS a legit monster and always wondered why WWF didn't get THAT version of Vader... but as Jim said, he was 3 years past his prime by the time he joined WWF, too many injuries and weight issues.
42:05 Damn!
Paul youre the man for putting up with crabby JR. Still waiting for you to call him out for being a grumpy prick, but love the show either way!
Ikr exactly what is jrs problem he has lived a blessed life lived a dream most of us could only dream of and made good money because of the fans so why be so miserable and seem to have such contempt towards them ,the guy is a prat
I just commented the same thing almost I feel like he gives Paul such a hard time but call doesn't dig for dirt anymore than Conrad does.
Conrad pays the bills. Paul is just some dude. If I was JR, I'd big league this jabroni too
Jr I feel like you're always giving Paul a hard time because he's digging for dirt but he doesn't dig any more than Conrad does
Vader in my top 5 All Time… 🐐
The WWF knew what they were getting when hired Vader. The problem wasn't the weight, the problem was not booking him like a monster. He should of been squashing guys in 5 minute matches and instead they had him chasing HBK around the ring for 20 minutes and selling like a coward. Watch his match against Razor at IYH, the Kliq buried Vader the same way they buried Bam Bam.
lol vader was a bully whos performance was in major decline because he lacked the discipline to stop eating cheeseburgers
This felt like a bit of a burial tbh And I know JR loved Vader but how many times can we bash the guy for his hygiene versus his actual career. And missing the spot at Summerslam still doesnt justify Michaels yelling “MOOOVE” and kicking him in the head,you improvise like a pro and keep going. I wish Conrad did this episode.
Michaels was never a pro. He whined like a woman and business was never better during the 4 years he was gone during the attitude era.
@@Rschr101 keep crying
@@585_Phinfan Shawn Michaels was a B_itch back then and now he's just a Lying Bi_tch !!
Shawn would do something like that when he knew dude couldn't fight back or he'd get fired. Shawn was great but a first rate coward
He was just telling the truth. It sounds like Vader didn't want to help himself. I'm sorry he's dead don't get me wrong,but it sounds like he was stubborn and only cared about himself at time in both companies. The truth hurts sometimes.
It's Vader time!!
Jr's personality between Paul and Conrad is totally different hmmm
i feel it's because when Conrad isn't there it feels like JR is doing an interview whereas, when Connie is in the house, its 2 friends talkin wrasslin
Exactly. He is very sarcastic towards Paul. Paul handles it better than I would.
I’m actually shocked Jim Miss remembers the length of time. Ron Simmons was WCW champion.. he said Ron only held the title for two weeks and odd one for him to all of those title. He had title the next clash of champions, Halloween havoc, even at Starrcade that year, Ron went in his champion. It was shortly after that he lost
the belt.
On the championship and then I think it was something like New Year’s Eve, or like the December because it was a week or so after Starrcade . So, Ron Simmons was champion for almost half the year. Five months at least.
Great show and Paul you do great! Don't let these haters on the comment section detour you. Kids these days love to troll and Jr great as always
I prefer either to be honest. Conrad and Paul both excellent
i found vador terrifying up until his cameo on boy meets world.
I loved Vaders match for the WWF championship at In Your House(16):Canadian Stampede I thought it was a great match
This guy is much better than Conrad. That guy comes off as condescending and disinterested whereas this guy actually sounds like a fan.
When I see that WCW title the first name I think of and the first name most fans will say is Vader and at my first live show Vader walked past me and that helmet terrified me to the point where I never booed him again
Was prolly his STINK !!
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28:58 to 29:40
Not 10 camera angles in 30 seconds in those days. THAT is why today's wretsling is unwatchable
Agreed even if the product was good u get a migraine trying to watch with kevin dunns chaotic camera angles
Why isn't Conrad around as much anymore? Is ok ? Is he with Bruce stw still?
I bet Vader's gear wasn't fungus free.
It's not the same without Conrad.
Not it sucks. Paul is horrible.
Why is that? Chat me up😆
Has Conrad stopped doing these . This other guy ffs , and they say the Damien Demento , Giant Gonzalez , pushes were bad 😔
No he's in Dallas for wrestler mania
Wheres conrad ???
Probably Pod with Bischoff
Y'all need to go easy on JR in these comments....
JR should drop the attitude tho
Who gives a shit?
Don't get me wrong, I prefer Conrad hosting just like everyone else. He really brings out the humor in JR, his voice, flow and cadence, I love a Conrad Thompson podcast. But Paul works his ass off and he's reading from the same notes Conrad would be, and I just feel like JR was a little harsh on him on this episode. Especially repeatedly calling Paul a "dirt sheet guy". First of all, how many podcasts has he done with Conrad that weren't outlined by articles from Dave Meltzer or Wade Keller? And secondly, good ol' JR calling Paul a dirt sheet guy is pot calling the kettle black. Don't forget, Jim Ross was fired in '94 around the time of the steroid trial for leaking insider information to Meltzer and Keller. He's joked about it with Conrad before, and said that he always read the Observer back then.
hmm didn't know that. I've heard him be harsh on Paul sometimes too. As much as I like JR, he's a dick sometimes too
Why in gods name would anyone ask Jim a question if he's just going to treat you like your a jerkoff when he answers it ... I mean I love the guy... but god damn... just rude as fck
I love jr and even conrad but this guy just has annoying voice. Cant take more than about 2 minutes
You hired him at his weight so you deal with him at that weight.
hate seeing good topics wasted on this other guy.
9:06 - “im sure Meltzer gave it 5 or 6 stars”…..you’re cringe, Paul
Vader was horrible
Nah he was cool.
@@Rschr101 he was not exciting at all his matches were beyond boring he was just fucking garbage
He was awesome
Surely u can’t be serious? Who’s your modern wrestlers you are in to ?
@@wolfcrewe7474 wrestling has been trash for 20 years I haven't watched it since then