Yes! Pos1 are supposed to jungle. By that time they can clear lane creeps in a few seconds then rotate to jungle. They dont need tower because they will play in jungle from minute 10
Been spamming Chen for a few days now. The most fun I have ever had as a 5. Dude is strong even without an agh rush thanks to the jungle creeps' skill changes a few months ago. And this video, to an extend, explains the Chen nerf in 7.32b. I tend to go for a traditional build so I don't often recognize how obsencely strong Chen agh is atm.
@@silentfrost3645 Only his ult got nerfed in 7.32b. Other than that, Chen still remains a strong support atm. Now all jungle creeps have their own skills which is already a massive buff to Chen and will keep him somewhat relavent even if he continues to have his other skills nerfed after this.
Pos 3, 4 and 5 here. I just started playing Chen, Lycan, Beastmaster and Enchantress, overall, heroes that can control multiple creeps are just strong AF!! I will try Venomencer soon enough as well. Not that I haven't played Veno but just not the right way.
You can't help but get flamed as level 1 Chen. You level Penitence - "Omg Chen with no creeps, GG" You level Persuasion - "Omg my Chen has a useless creep GG" You level Divine Favour - "Omg my Chen IS the creep GG"
Can someone explain me how in gaben's name the jugg is in top mmr when he is playing like some herald/guardian carry that obsessively camp his lane, thinking this is THEIR lane and THEIR creeps and they have to stay here until they have 6 items ...
You know, in super late game you can get like a dominator to get a healing troll shaman, he gives bonus 15% heal amplification on your spells, that would be about +90 extra hp per each martyrdom and hand of god, which actually makes up to extra 270 hp in triple heal and might make a difference. The reason I say dominator is to not accidentally martyr your shaman creep and not to kill him with creep cap accidentally either. Great content!
@@eshlost5604 Ayt cool thanks. I play Chen too but often times i do the 5 dark trolls and hide them somewhere. The new -2 talent I've tried playing with 4 centaurs and a dagger. Both are fun
Kinda out of topic but I love how Enigma played at the second game. Yes wombo combo, 3+ BH is good but that Enigma doesn't hesitate to do 1-man blackhole if he deemed the kill to be important.
yup there is a lot of 'jugg' out there who think he knows everything at dota still in low mmr tho. takes credit when winning, be 'never wrong man' when losing. great play btw
This is what happens when people are too meta dependent. I remember when i was at ancient to divine ranking years ago when i was actively playing. Allies were bad mouthing me when i played off meta builds. I used lifestealer on manta because enemy has silencer, used radiance build on juggernaut because i was facing TA and at the end i carried them. Some players just don’t understand they need to adjust from meta.
i honestly gonna report his steam account and freeze his IP to prevent queue matchmaking with that toxic behaviour ._. that's kinda weird when a new patch come to try new thing that we dont know but that jug cant accept the reality learn to adapt
Havent played for 2 years but I still remember that you can click alt to see ally hp bar on the icon at the top of screen and you can also click your skills there. I don't know if it still works though
I wanna know if that thing still works too coz I remember Treant Protector users click on the hero icons on top of the screen to cast that armor thingy much more easily
Bro ive grown resentful to these kinds of people. Encountered a guy who’s supposed to play support and berated for not picking because we were losing gold. Worst yet he thinks he’s right all the time, when I make my point he blocks me and he feels like he did something by blocking me first. He kept chatting like: thank god finally blocked. Like bro idgaf 💀
Chat, need some advice, what is the best way of switching between hero and creeps? Tab? Tried this before, but I always got confused which creep I am currently. KEKW Unit select by mouse? A mess during a team fight, don't even know where my creep is. KEKW
Wouldn't clicking Martyrdom on hero icons on the top of the screen work too ? Then if you use alt to see your teammate's HP, you won't need to move the camera to them
Chen spammer here. I have him at 60% winrate divine rank. I don't think rushing aghs is that good honestly. Being there with your team providing aura, heals and your Q is better than standing in jungle spam healing 1 hero. Your mek timing is so strong, and you can also rush drums if you stomped your lane in order to solo control enemy jungle.
Io: I am the best healer in the game.
Chen 7.32: Hold my creeps.
Oracle: Amateur!
Io can double or maybe triple Chen's heal just by tethering to the target, so not really a lose.
Yeah but you gotta farm aghanim first tho
How about io + chen and a carry .. its a good combo tho for late game ..the rest mid game and early game heroes
@@gwakamoli7759 exactly.Thatd why pro team always pick Io chen if you watch TI8 and Ti9 final they always contest these 2
I was egotistical like jugg in my past. I took magic mushrooms and I enjoy playing pos5 now
damn we need to mass produce those magic mushrooms
LOL
incredibly based and 3rd eye pilled
good
The ego death
that’s the jugg we all get, never the jugg the enemy gets
coming from NA alot of the french canadian carry Refuse to leave the dead lane.. every, for any reason (until min 20)
@@curious_ember Yes, been there too
well said bro, but for me, more often than not, its Bara lol !!!
Yes! Pos1 are supposed to jungle. By that time they can clear lane creeps in a few seconds then rotate to jungle. They dont need tower because they will play in jungle from minute 10
This is why DJ insisted to ban all zoo heroes during the major.
chu : hold my es
who is DL, he play disco song or jazz?
@@alexanderlc8468 dj from fnatic
What zoo heroes?
@@iloveplumpgrannies174 Chen, Beastmaster and Lycan probably..heroes that are really good at scouting and support.
Sometimes average skill games just have that unfortunate sweet spot of high ego and close mindedness. Well played!
Been spamming Chen for a few days now. The most fun I have ever had as a 5. Dude is strong even without an agh rush thanks to the jungle creeps' skill changes a few months ago.
And this video, to an extend, explains the Chen nerf in 7.32b. I tend to go for a traditional build so I don't often recognize how obsencely strong Chen agh is atm.
Damn. I was about to use him after this video but he got nerfed already
@@silentfrost3645 Only his ult got nerfed in 7.32b. Other than that, Chen still remains a strong support atm. Now all jungle creeps have their own skills which is already a massive buff to Chen and will keep him somewhat relavent even if he continues to have his other skills nerfed after this.
I feel like creeps can carry Chen for an aghs rush. Healing is good this patch and this is just OP
Pos 3, 4 and 5 here. I just started playing Chen, Lycan, Beastmaster and Enchantress, overall, heroes that can control multiple creeps are just strong AF!! I will try Venomencer soon enough as well. Not that I haven't played Veno but just not the right way.
@@hasnaindev agreed.Strong pushing power,teamfight,squishy heroes if not careful,would just melt.
Really love the editing man!
Met you on sea ranked pubs years ago, you were so good. Got curious and stalked you. Found your yt channel, and subbed.
You can't help but get flamed as level 1 Chen.
You level Penitence - "Omg Chen with no creeps, GG"
You level Persuasion - "Omg my Chen has a useless creep GG"
You level Divine Favour - "Omg my Chen IS the creep GG"
Just level up stats
"This Chen is a gigachad."
@@ErwinSmith001 I just tried it and my MMR went up by 600! Thanks man!
@@christaylor86 I think you meant went to
@@sus7820 Yeah! Up 600 from 0!
@@christaylor86 oh makes sense. Sorry mate
man actually every single your videos makes my day.. please upload more often 😉
Can someone explain me how in gaben's name the jugg is in top mmr when he is playing like some herald/guardian carry that obsessively camp his lane, thinking this is THEIR lane and THEIR creeps and they have to stay here until they have 6 items ...
You know, in super late game you can get like a dominator to get a healing troll shaman, he gives bonus 15% heal amplification on your spells, that would be about +90 extra hp per each martyrdom and hand of god, which actually makes up to extra 270 hp in triple heal and might make a difference. The reason I say dominator is to not accidentally martyr your shaman creep and not to kill him with creep cap accidentally either. Great content!
How does that aura work btw? Does it amplify the healer's healing within 1200 radius or does the unit to be healed need to be in that radius?
@@xtianebernal healer's healing
@@eshlost5604 Ayt cool thanks. I play Chen too but often times i do the 5 dark trolls and hide them somewhere. The new -2 talent I've tried playing with 4 centaurs and a dagger. Both are fun
@Person aww look at you who can't contain the need to feel good about yourself.
@Person virgin pos 1 2 3 players.
that juggernaut is such a sore loser. that threats and rage just looks absolutely cringe.
Everytime you pick Chen in my games:
_Enchantress has entered the chat_
And now Enchantress shard counters Chen to the base.😇
And the endless conversion of creeps begin
Kinda out of topic but I love how Enigma played at the second game. Yes wombo combo, 3+ BH is good but that Enigma doesn't hesitate to do 1-man blackhole if he deemed the kill to be important.
yep he knew ember kills them all if he doesn't stop him
jugg online: "I'm gonna kill you irl"
jugg irl: "i-i-i- I'm s-s-sorry" 🤓
Was kind of hoping you would show the total heal for the match at the end. Bet it was up there on both games :)
"healing..healing.." x1000 🤣🤣🤣
can't even play a single SEA game without risking your life
HAHA
Funny because he’s so well spoken in video. This whole video…healing….HEALing…HEALING!HEALING!!! 😂strat is OP
owowowo OWOWOWOWOWOWO
yup there is a lot of 'jugg' out there who think he knows everything at dota still in low mmr tho. takes credit when winning, be 'never wrong man' when losing. great play btw
This is what happens when people are too meta dependent. I remember when i was at ancient to divine ranking years ago when i was actively playing.
Allies were bad mouthing me when i played off meta builds. I used lifestealer on manta because enemy has silencer, used radiance build on juggernaut because i was facing TA and at the end i carried them. Some players just don’t understand they need to adjust from meta.
bro what, chen IS meta
@@СтасКонончик well he's still right. and he's making a larger point than chen being meta. please reconsider your entire existence.
Those people obviously dont know how to itemize bruh 🙄
If you receive a death threat it means you were successful
Talking about death threats, that jug can’t even get out of his room and to talk about killing someone lmao.
Happen in my Neighborhood, from trash talk into death threat. And some dude actually got stabbed in neck while playing dota in Netscape. RIP
i was on a demo and watch a guide for chen thx for dropping this video. this would be my baseline on spamming chen on 7.32b
Yesterday, i had a emotional pos 1 Luna cuz Mars kill her like 3 time in the laning phase and we just win the game 4 vs 5 at 50m feels good man !
Man I love your Singlish a lot, it makes the Video muc more better XD
Dtl: How unstable are you?
Jugg: Yes
i honestly gonna report his steam account and freeze his IP to prevent queue matchmaking with that toxic behaviour ._. that's kinda weird when a new patch come to try new thing that we dont know but that jug cant accept the reality learn to adapt
@Person yep true man
the whole vid is "healing! healing! healing!" :))
in sundanese its mean GET OUT! GET OUT! GET OUT! :))))
nice vid datoh
No joke if that jugg was in my game bro, he would have stopped playing dota 2, you are so humble and patient, much love
The bad part of this strategy is... you have to play Chen... and control creeps - I suck at this strategy :D
Recently, ive become ur fan now. What a fascinating way to play lol. Keep it up!!
Thank you for teaching me this hero.. I underestimated this hero so much
CC: _HEALING HEALING HEALING HEALING HEALING HEALING_
you shouldve said to him, you can try, but you will never see me coming
Truly a "Hiling! hiling! hiling !" moment lmao
The Frog: Chen.. my son.. it's finally your time
Keyboard sound is an ASMR
HEALIN HEALIN HEALIN god I love this video lol
Havent played for 2 years but I still remember that you can click alt to see ally hp bar on the icon at the top of screen and you can also click your skills there. I don't know if it still works though
I wanna know if that thing still works too coz I remember Treant Protector users click on the hero icons on top of the screen to cast that armor thingy much more easily
Puppy and kuroky be like:
WRITE THat DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!!
10% playing, 90% HILING !
"我把它拉进".
That's what I always tell my gf Dato :)))
Also as Malaysian "追他 Lao Bu", feels so nice to see that puck got puck'ed in return ahaha 😂🤣
Thanks for putting the gist of what your mates are saying too much appreciated bro
Gabe & Icefrog : we'll pretend we didn't see that threat. Anyway, here's some new bugs 😂
I wish you showed off the healing stats postgame
game 1, 35.8k healing, match ID: 6725477825
game 2, 60.8k healing, match ID: 6728398250
I just want to say 1 thing:
HEALING!
Chen 7.32: Redo of Healer
Did you know that Dead Sea is the saltiest place in the world. .? 2nd only after that Yurnero's attitude
that's the thing about pubs, wether we stomp the lane as a supp, its still a 50 - 50 on how our cores would decide to throw or not.
nah but by being chen you can just heal them through their throw xd
me in every marci game
@@kf_isher1149 not when they're literally running it down mid tho.
@@SheepyPanda95 yeah well that you just gotta chuck on some netflix and wait for the next one tbh
@@kf_isher1149 but then you get afk penalty....
Healing? Healing? Healing?
-yes
Healing! Healing ! Healing!
HEALING HEALING HEALING 🤣
step 0: know how to play chen.
11:37 owowowo OWOWOWOWOWOWOWO
I would suggest pining the juggernaut every time he dies
Good luck reaching 25 as support in this patch where xp requirement for lvl is increased
just stay alive in every win team fight and u get lvls
Zoo is pretty damn strong right now since the go to zoo counter on carry BB got kinda nerfed.
Bro ive grown resentful to these kinds of people. Encountered a guy who’s supposed to play support and berated for not picking because we were losing gold. Worst yet he thinks he’s right all the time, when I make my point he blocks me and he feels like he did something by blocking me first. He kept chatting like: thank god finally blocked. Like bro idgaf 💀
The typical "blame in advance just in case we lose later".
i love your videos and personality man keep goin on 😂😂😂
Damn dude should show end game scoreboard for the healing number.
Wahhh your video so fun 😂😆 keep it up ma man💪🏼
have you tried Anysummoners Hero + echantress yet ?
My fav moment was the ahhh, from the blackhole drag
I think this version natural counter for chen will be venomancer.
Enemy team: jugg, chen, weaver, undying
Me: auto lock AA
Meanwhile DJ: BAN THE FCKING CHEN WE CAN'T LET THEM DO THAT THING
Edit: ok that's the most baby ragef jugg I've ever seen my entire life
As a chen with 24 streak I knew the re - persuasion trick to make hand off god doesn't have cd since the patch release🔥
nice one laa.. love your art
you make late game chen look like a monster
really wanted to see the post-game heal value soo bad 😂😂😂😂
same
game 1 - 35k, game 2 -61k
Oh, wow, as a part time IO and Oracle main - this is close to my all time record.
9:20 comeback la xdd
Getting a death threat from your own smooth brained carry is called "playing Dota"...
hi im the minority here using the legacy hot key and the new scepter skill doesn't have hot key for me any advice what to do?
turn off legacy
I use legacy and it works
Been spamming chen undying and batrider (until nerfs ofc)
That jugg needs someone to check him ASAP
Chat, need some advice, what is the best way of switching between hero and creeps?
Tab? Tried this before, but I always got confused which creep I am currently. KEKW
Unit select by mouse? A mess during a team fight, don't even know where my creep is. KEKW
5 squishy heroes vs burst damage. Who would win.
That last clip of you healing nonstop was amazing haha.
if u reading comments jugg ur the shettys human in the world
Ahh man I love when other people are angry at dota instead of us :D
"Healing healing healing..." ~a legend
Wouldn't clicking Martyrdom on hero icons on the top of the screen work too ? Then if you use alt to see your teammate's HP, you won't need to move the camera to them
GG datolyong, nice one
When you're trying hard n going for the objectives but just like jugg zero effort
Nice dude
Good channel
I really need player Chen like you.
Its make felt confident into clash
Teammate with 99% HP: healing healing healing
You are the kindest support I ever known
Makina providing healing all over from Kyoto
wait, did the mini golem with time got this effect too?
good question i don't think it did it only work on creep that he use spell on it
nope
at this point, every hero is a morphling
broken. actually broken dude.
that lvl 25 is nasty
Chen spammer here. I have him at 60% winrate divine rank. I don't think rushing aghs is that good honestly. Being there with your team providing aura, heals and your Q is better than standing in jungle spam healing 1 hero.
Your mek timing is so strong, and you can also rush drums if you stomped your lane in order to solo control enemy jungle.
Ogre magi's death is so cool after being shot by green hood 2:08
Still waiting ESL One Malaysia analysis 😊
same
With that attitude, do you get ban from a report?
Hi, any match ID for this, would like to look at replay
carry players always think they are the center of the universe.
does chens q work with undying zombies, willow ulti, clinkz illus and weaver bugs?