I have a huge Dumerils like yours, Jack, a rescue. He's so much bigger than all my other Pythons and BH Snakes, but gentle and docile. I wish we could share photos on TH-cam comments. Loved the video
Absolutely wonderful to watch you handle Athena and for us to see the attachment and love you have for her. :) I got my first Dumeril's boa last year; also a 3 year old female. I named her Persephone. Took me 4-5 months of regular handling to get her to fully trust me, and now she's exactly like your sweet girl. She sleeps on me and gladly comes back up towards me whenever I put her down somewhere. This year, I took in a dum's from a guy who couldn't keep it anymore. When I looked at the CITES papers, it struck me that they were from the same breeder, same year, same day, and related numbers. So naturally I contacted him, and sure enough, he confirmed that they're clutch-siblings. So I named him Perseus. Anyway, originally I wanted to breed the two, but now that I know they're related, I don't think it's such a good idea. You got any thoughts on the topic? Thanks in advance! TLDR; Got two clutch-related dum siblings, now thinking it's a bad idea to breed them. Any thoughts?
Hi there, thanks for the comment! Yes, they are fantastic snakes! And, yes, you definitely can breed them together. Line breeding in reptiles is perfectly safe.
@@northcoastconstrictors Ah, thank you so much for responding! I was made aware that line breeding (especially more than once, say with father and daughter) could have detrimental effects. But siblings are ok?
@@NihilAzari there are some cases of defects if you inbreed for multiple generations. But there are multiple examples of extreme line breeding in boas and ball pythons for multiple generations with zero defects. Opinions differ in whether or not it’s safe or recommended, however almost all breeders breed the offspring back to either the sire or the same or sibling to sibling, or cousin to cousin to produce cleaner and more pure recessive examples of the gene. Dumerils don’t have different morphs, so there’s no point in line breeding to prove out genetic or recessive traits, but it’s still relatively safe. It’s not like breeding dogs for example. In reptiles it’s far more forgiving and almost always practiced when breeding. Inbreeding and line breeding are similar but not exactly the same, and actually bring out the best in the recessive traits when trying to prove out a gene or create visually cleaner version. However, after one or two generations of line or inbreeding, it’s best the start to pair up snakes from other parents with the same genetics to avoid defects and still achieve cleans recessives if you have a big enough breeding collection to avoid continuous line breeding generation after generation.
@@northcoastconstrictors Thank you, that's nice to know. Since dumerils boas are also island locality, it does perhaps prove that they are more resistent to inbreeding issues, but I don't see a reason to inbreeding more than once. Like you said, no such thing as morphs in dumerils boas (for now at least), though I have heard some promising things from other sources. :)
@@carlhoppe I have a Hog Island boa cross....she's not as big as your Dumeril...but eventually she will go into a 48-inch x 14-inch x 14-inch enclosure.
I generally get told carpets and dumerils are bout same size which is 8-9 ft and I get told they eat rabbits and sometimes slightly larger prey in they are robust built strong snakes when healthy .
They seem to be going up in price, unfortunately. I rarely see them in the US for under 600-700 dollars, sometimes even 1k. Captive bred of course. Shame, because they're really beautiful and just the right size and disposition for many snake keepers.
Not that scary until they stike got some power 4 sure, I got vinegar for feeding bites never jused it tho, tail bite work but you really have to chew, go for the vinegar or alkohol instead.
I have a 6 month old female who is VERY picky about eating. This is contrary to what I've heard is the "norm". Maybe its a baby thing? Or because its winter in Utah? Any thoughts or suggestions would be great. Her temps and humidity are right where they should be so self-imposed brumation is my best guess. Her last meal was 32 days ago.
I was so happy when i stumbled upon this video- i can't even tell you!! I bought a dumerils Boa back in November- it's a baby (probably around 6 months or so now) and i am having a horrible time getting it to eat...i've literally tried everything- any tips on getting a baby to eat? What do you feed yours?
Hi, it’s hard to answer that without knowing what your setup is. What is her enclosure size? Is it a tank or a tub in a rack system? Assuming it’s a tank as you have one snake? So, firstly make sure it’s not too big for her because she’s a baby and a big open tank will make her feel insecure. Put her in a smaller enclosure. Make sure she has a hide. Place the hide over the hotspot and the water bowl at the opposite end of the enclosure. Make sure all your heat and humidity levels are correct. Temp should be approx 28-30 degrees Celsius (82.5 - 86 degrees Fahrenheit) on the hotspot and the humidity should be around 50-60% in the enclosure. What type of prey are you feeding her? Rat? Mouse? Multi? Is it live prey or frozen thawed? What size is it? Wait 7-10 days before you offer her food again. Also, don’t handle her for a few days before you offer her food. If she doesn’t take, wait another 7 days. Don’t offer her food every day or every other day. Wait at least a week to ten days and then offer her again. The female on this video hasn’t eaten for a month. It’s just one of those things. She’s done it a few times before, and then one day she just starts eating again. I wait two weeks before I offer again when she refuses a meal. But she’s an adult, so she can go months without food. A baby should be eating every 7-10 days a rodent as thick as the thickness of the snakes girth. Maybe give me a bit more info on your setup and I’ll be answer to your question properly with better suggestions. I hope this helps anyway.
She actually small for her age balls are her size at 3-4 yrs age I'm guessing you wanted her to grow slow in steady in feed her smaller rats then what she can handle , because she can eat large to Jumbo's right now from looking at her most boas in pythons take Large and jumbo rats at 4-5 ft easily
I bought her from another breeder when she was 18 months old and he had slow grown her purposely. I'm or feeding her a large rat every 10-14 days which is what she's comfortable with. If she takes a jumbo, then she'll refuse food for up to a month.
@@germaineparham9372 I wouldn't say they have slow metabolism, but they don't have a feeding response like a retic. A retic will literally eat every 3 days if you offered it. That snake has a fast metabolism. Dumerils are like anyvother boa. My girl just went back on food now after 6 weeks. She took a jumbo rat. She probably won't eat again for another month. She's about 4.5 -5 feet long now.
@@carlhoppe idk I'ma ask around tonafew others with boas see what they say but I do hear dumerils grow slow but they still make it there in get big shit corns, kings, milk snakes , Brazilian rainbow boas,ball pythons grow alot slower in n get alot smaller then dumerils . So they still worth it . I want too but both a dumerils and carpet python at hatchlings around same size in time grow them together . In boa constrictor don't grow slow , either do red tails it's up to person how he grows them .if you higher dere temperature then it helps speeds up digestive system . I Kno a person who told me his 7.5 ft dumerils was eating 3 Jumbo's with previous owner now it's his snake in he feed 1 jumbo rat per week in it takes it like a champ like nothin but he jus think it's obese even tho to me it's looks perfect so he feed to reduce snake qeight
@@carlhoppe I be telling some people's that if ya snake can eat Jumbo's rats then so can it eat small rabbits , guineas pigs , squirrels , chipmunks , pigeons baby duck
Not scared bro. Cautious and alert. Big difference. If I was scared I would be using gloves. I don't have staff, so I'm the only one who can handle my snakes. Thanks anyway for your input.
@@carlhoppe Dumerils are the teddy bears of the snake world, just hold her every day and she'll calm down super quick. She's absolutely beautiful! I used to have one quite a bit bigger and it was one of the sweetest snakes I've ever owned....I'd hand it to a 12 year old and be TOTALLY confident it would NEVER bite! They are a SUPER powerful snake though, they have that thick ground snake power! I'd take her (I'm assuming it was a female by the size, never actually sexed it as it was just a pet and not a breeder) out and put her around my neck/across my shoulders and even just her hanging on to me she'd be able to make the veins in my forehead pop out! Absolutely love Dumerils, they're such great snakes!
@@carlhoppe Nice! Glad to hear that! They're one of my favorite snakes and that's saying something cause I usually prefer arboreal/semi-arboreal snakes to ground snakes. Their temperament is just GREAT, mine was a freaking teddy bear lol, I think probably the only thing I could ever do to get it to bite me is maybe step on it! Just sweet as could be....
I have a huge Dumerils like yours, Jack, a rescue. He's so much bigger than all my other Pythons and BH Snakes, but gentle and docile. I wish we could share photos on TH-cam comments. Loved the video
My girl is 7ft, still a sweetheart. probably one of the best pets of any kind.
The video of the guy biting the retic is of Garrett from reach out reptiles! It was amazing to see! Lovely snake, and I enjoy your videos
Athena is Beautiful! So nice to meet her and learn about Dumerils Boas.
Good looking dumerils man. All of them have those white patches.
Thanks! Yeah they should, but my male dunerils doesn’t have that white patch under the chin.
@@northcoastconstrictors that's cool!
Absolutely wonderful to watch you handle Athena and for us to see the attachment and love you have for her. :)
I got my first Dumeril's boa last year; also a 3 year old female. I named her Persephone. Took me 4-5 months of regular handling to get her to fully trust me, and now she's exactly like your sweet girl. She sleeps on me and gladly comes back up towards me whenever I put her down somewhere.
This year, I took in a dum's from a guy who couldn't keep it anymore. When I looked at the CITES papers, it struck me that they were from the same breeder, same year, same day, and related numbers. So naturally I contacted him, and sure enough, he confirmed that they're clutch-siblings. So I named him Perseus.
Anyway, originally I wanted to breed the two, but now that I know they're related, I don't think it's such a good idea. You got any thoughts on the topic? Thanks in advance!
TLDR; Got two clutch-related dum siblings, now thinking it's a bad idea to breed them. Any thoughts?
Hi there, thanks for the comment! Yes, they are fantastic snakes! And, yes, you definitely can breed them together. Line breeding in reptiles is perfectly safe.
@@northcoastconstrictors Ah, thank you so much for responding! I was made aware that line breeding (especially more than once, say with father and daughter) could have detrimental effects. But siblings are ok?
@@NihilAzari there are some cases of defects if you inbreed for multiple generations. But there are multiple examples of extreme line breeding in boas and ball pythons for multiple generations with zero defects. Opinions differ in whether or not it’s safe or recommended, however almost all breeders breed the offspring back to either the sire or the same or sibling to sibling, or cousin to cousin to produce cleaner and more pure recessive examples of the gene. Dumerils don’t have different morphs, so there’s no point in line breeding to prove out genetic or recessive traits, but it’s still relatively safe. It’s not like breeding dogs for example. In reptiles it’s far more forgiving and almost always practiced when breeding. Inbreeding and line breeding are similar but not exactly the same, and actually bring out the best in the recessive traits when trying to prove out a gene or create visually cleaner version. However, after one or two generations of line or inbreeding, it’s best the start to pair up snakes from other parents with the same genetics to avoid defects and still achieve cleans recessives if you have a big enough breeding collection to avoid continuous line breeding generation after generation.
@@northcoastconstrictors Thank you, that's nice to know. Since dumerils boas are also island locality, it does perhaps prove that they are more resistent to inbreeding issues, but I don't see a reason to inbreeding more than once. Like you said, no such thing as morphs in dumerils boas (for now at least), though I have heard some promising things from other sources. :)
She's beautiful! Thanks for sharing her with us. Love Dumeril boas.
Anytime brother! Glad you enjoyed the Video!
@@carlhoppe Hey Carl - can you tell me the size of the enclosure you have her in please?
ALAN
Currently it is 120cm x 40cm x 40 cm. When she’s bigger she’ll go into a 150cm x 50cm x 50cm
@@carlhoppe I have a Hog Island boa cross....she's not as big as your Dumeril...but eventually she will go into a 48-inch x 14-inch x 14-inch enclosure.
I generally get told carpets and dumerils are bout same size which is 8-9 ft and I get told they eat rabbits and sometimes slightly larger prey in they are robust built strong snakes when healthy .
They seem to be going up in price, unfortunately.
I rarely see them in the US for under 600-700 dollars, sometimes even 1k. Captive bred of course. Shame, because they're really beautiful and just the right size and disposition for many snake keepers.
That’s crazy. You can buy them here in South Africa for a maximum of $100 U.S as a hatchling. And about $150 as an adult.
$400 in Canada
The lowest I've seen them go for in USA 500 DOLLARS.
Drop dead gorgeous snake and great video. Just picked up and July born male.
Nice one brother! Enjoy!!
Not that scary until they stike got some power 4 sure, I got vinegar for feeding bites never jused it tho, tail bite work but you really have to chew, go for the vinegar or alkohol instead.
Yes they do indeed! Very powerful strikers
Awesome and informative video bro and stunning boa 🔥🔥🔥💯💪🏽✌️
Thanks dude! 🙌🏻🙌🏻 💯 👊🏻👊🏻
The tail biting is true. Retics and Burms freak out when you nibble on the vent area
Reach out Reptiles has a video of biting a retic on the tail to get a feeding response free
Where did you get her cage? I like it! Custom built?
I bought it at Ultimate Exotics and Waterfall KZN
I have a 6 month old female who is VERY picky about eating. This is contrary to what I've heard is the "norm". Maybe its a baby thing? Or because its winter in Utah? Any thoughts or suggestions would be great. Her temps and humidity are right where they should be so self-imposed brumation is my best guess. Her last meal was 32 days ago.
Also saw one 10.5 pds but been told they can reach 15 or so pds . What was she eating jumbo rats ? And how often ?
What size enclosure do you have for her? Im hoping to get one of these in the future
I was so happy when i stumbled upon this video- i can't even tell you!! I bought a dumerils Boa back in November- it's a baby (probably around 6 months or so now) and i am having a horrible time getting it to eat...i've literally tried everything- any tips on getting a baby to eat? What do you feed yours?
Hi, it’s hard to answer that without knowing what your setup is. What is her enclosure size? Is it a tank or a tub in a rack system? Assuming it’s a tank as you have one snake? So, firstly make sure it’s not too big for her because she’s a baby and a big open tank will make her feel insecure. Put her in a smaller enclosure. Make sure she has a hide. Place the hide over the hotspot and the water bowl at the opposite end of the enclosure. Make sure all your heat and humidity levels are correct. Temp should be approx 28-30 degrees Celsius (82.5 - 86 degrees Fahrenheit) on the hotspot and the humidity should be around 50-60% in the enclosure. What type of prey are you feeding her? Rat? Mouse? Multi? Is it live prey or frozen thawed? What size is it? Wait 7-10 days before you offer her food again. Also, don’t handle her for a few days before you offer her food. If she doesn’t take, wait another 7 days. Don’t offer her food every day or every other day. Wait at least a week to ten days and then offer her again. The female on this video hasn’t eaten for a month. It’s just one of those things. She’s done it a few times before, and then one day she just starts eating again. I wait two weeks before I offer again when she refuses a meal. But she’s an adult, so she can go months without food. A baby should be eating every 7-10 days a rodent as thick as the thickness of the snakes girth. Maybe give me a bit more info on your setup and I’ll be answer to your question properly with better suggestions. I hope this helps anyway.
She actually small for her age balls are her size at 3-4 yrs age I'm guessing you wanted her to grow slow in steady in feed her smaller rats then what she can handle , because she can eat large to Jumbo's right now from looking at her most boas in pythons take Large and jumbo rats at 4-5 ft easily
I bought her from another breeder when she was 18 months old and he had slow grown her purposely. I'm or feeding her a large rat every 10-14 days which is what she's comfortable with. If she takes a jumbo, then she'll refuse food for up to a month.
@@carlhoppe oh I knew it had to be something. How big is she ? And so due all dumerils have slow metabolism or is it cus he slow growth her
@@germaineparham9372 I wouldn't say they have slow metabolism, but they don't have a feeding response like a retic. A retic will literally eat every 3 days if you offered it. That snake has a fast metabolism. Dumerils are like anyvother boa. My girl just went back on food now after 6 weeks. She took a jumbo rat. She probably won't eat again for another month. She's about 4.5 -5 feet long now.
@@carlhoppe idk I'ma ask around tonafew others with boas see what they say but I do hear dumerils grow slow but they still make it there in get big shit corns, kings, milk snakes , Brazilian rainbow boas,ball pythons grow alot slower in n get alot smaller then dumerils . So they still worth it . I want too but both a dumerils and carpet python at hatchlings around same size in time grow them together . In boa constrictor don't grow slow , either do red tails it's up to person how he grows them .if you higher dere temperature then it helps speeds up digestive system . I Kno a person who told me his 7.5 ft dumerils was eating 3 Jumbo's with previous owner now it's his snake in he feed 1 jumbo rat per week in it takes it like a champ like nothin but he jus think it's obese even tho to me it's looks perfect so he feed to reduce snake qeight
@@carlhoppe I be telling some people's that if ya snake can eat Jumbo's rats then so can it eat small rabbits , guineas pigs , squirrels , chipmunks , pigeons baby duck
I like your accent.
Where are you from?
Thanks, South Africa 🇿🇦
Can anyone compare these to carpet pythons as far size , weight , prey size ?
Yea, you look scared. Take her out every day. Have SOMEONE work with her daily
Not scared bro. Cautious and alert. Big difference. If I was scared I would be using gloves. I don't have staff, so I'm the only one who can handle my snakes. Thanks anyway for your input.
@@carlhoppe Dumerils are the teddy bears of the snake world, just hold her every day and she'll calm down super quick. She's absolutely beautiful! I used to have one quite a bit bigger and it was one of the sweetest snakes I've ever owned....I'd hand it to a 12 year old and be TOTALLY confident it would NEVER bite! They are a SUPER powerful snake though, they have that thick ground snake power! I'd take her (I'm assuming it was a female by the size, never actually sexed it as it was just a pet and not a breeder) out and put her around my neck/across my shoulders and even just her hanging on to me she'd be able to make the veins in my forehead pop out! Absolutely love Dumerils, they're such great snakes!
@@nicks1063 awesome! I'm handling her a few days a week now and she's super chill!
@@carlhoppe Nice! Glad to hear that! They're one of my favorite snakes and that's saying something cause I usually prefer arboreal/semi-arboreal snakes to ground snakes. Their temperament is just GREAT, mine was a freaking teddy bear lol, I think probably the only thing I could ever do to get it to bite me is maybe step on it! Just sweet as could be....
My Dumirlis Boas are all amazingly sweet and gentle. I trust them to behave much more than my retics for sure.