That pedal configuration alone kinda shows where the engineers put an emphasis for the car's usage. And I'm liking the full canyon run pov excerpt too you should keep doing these.
I agree about the quality of Hondas from the 90's and early 2000's. I had a 1992 Prelude and now a 2006 S2000 and 2004 CR-V. Even the CR-V feels much better quality than newer models.
for real I think almost any miata owner would rather have an s2000, but the miata is 1/5 the price in my market XD Still, i am saving for an s2000 someday
you dont need atts in a prelude to be able to have amazing corner capability. i have a base model, and cornering on stock suspension is super easy, and i can corner very very fast
Honestly, i have a 97 base model 5 speed and i want to throw a set of coilovers on to lower it down an inch so it handles really really good. They weigh 100 lbs less than the atts equipped Type SH and I've heard that those atts can fail and be very costly to fix
Spicy Tuna it's inevitable, as enthusiasts any sort of auto trans strips a car of its performance value. That's y they get so much bashing, because they're being viewed through enthusiast eyes. If you owned both a manual and auto I guarantee ud enjoy driving the manual more 😁
Its not that you just want a manual for a car like the prelude (because you do) but ive heard the auto trans was notoriously and uncharacteristically shitty. The fact you beat the shit out of your lude and it still works fine is apparently the exception to the norm. I have a 97 base model lude with a 5 speed and love driving it. Only has 106k original miles.
Alic Segura red line and rev limit / rev cut is 2 different things in a honda Normal h22 red line is 7400 and rev cut is 7950 ish depending on model So reving it out past redline all the way to rev cut is the way to stay in vtec
John Strong Shift between 3000 and 3500 , keeps it from burning so much oil , vetec's kicks in sets the oil on fier , i see lots of guys flooring them at high rpms but at the end of the day , they been done burned up a lot of oil ......
anttwon brown daily driving thats close to what i do, maybe 4k But my current engine doesn't burn oil at all because ive rebuilt it But on a canyon run where you are having some fun an 8k shift is so much more fun The trick is to not sit at high rpm if you know it burns oil
John Strong Yeah I can agree on that one , in Atlanta any were closed to 285 is super fun , it's my first VTEC , well I had a LS Monte Carlo with a V8 VTEC but it's my first Honda , my dad had a prelude when he was in high school, A 1981 Prelude and laft me in the back seat behind the high School , I was raised by my grands ever sent , I afraid of destroying the engine so I try not to go to high on the RPM's , I bought the car from a used dealer , whoever had it before me must not had much time for it or got other plans , but it runs in the family , thunder birds , mustangs , Ford Taurus and Preludes all SHO's overhead Cam's ....
you can thank the 2 lower ball joints(per side) for the lack of torque steer fyi.and btw, you dont fall out of vtec when shifting in any gear, tach might be off....
Only thing I can see that I'd change is the steering rack speed. Maybe I'm just imagining (and also granted, I haven't driven one) but it just seems to take so many turns to get into a corner, even compared to my 03 Protege.
The reason it's dropping out of vtec is because the tach is off by about 500 rpm by the time you get to the top so it'll look like you're changing at 8100-8200. If you keep that in mind you'll stay in vtec just fine. That's my experience from my 01 type SH at least.
Great POV. It reminds me of Winding Road Magazine's videos in terms of camera quality and set-up. One recommendation that I would suggest is to use binaural microphones to enhance the audio...which Winding Road also uses. You should do a POV drive video of your new NSX! Keep up the great content! =)
Let me go on to say that not all Hondas are fun to drive. I have an HR-V and I hate that thing. Seemed like a decent car at first. Now I hate it because it's the opposite of fun. I'll be getting a Civic Type R or a Focus RS as soon as I'm done paying this thing off.
you mentioned automatic everything is worse lol reminded me of Saab which isn't that way, sort of. if you're modifying one, you can do more and get more out of the automatic transmission Saabs 9-3 phoenix body Era. it's probably not as enjoyable but depends on if someone prefers power to a manual that might be less reliable
Hard to say. Prelude has better stock suspension, steering, and driving position. RSX-S has the better engine and tunability. Stock vs stock I would probably have the Prelude. RSX-S for mods.
Its so much cheaper to turbo charge an na miata than buy a honda s2k. we talking about a 3,000 dollar miata with 6,000 to turbocharge compared to a 17 ,000+ dollar s2k. Ive driven my buddies s2k and I cant lie and say its not fun, but Id never buy an s2k over my miata. BTW im 6'2 and can heel toe perfectly fine with stock seats and stock steering wheel, maybe you need to work on your technique ;)
Eh, been there. I have yet to see forced induction be done as reliably as a factory tuned engine. S2ks dont cost that much anymore. more like 13k for a decent one. I guess miatas have just never done much for me. If you really love NA engines its hard to beat a honda engine too.
slashbashin I understand that you haven't seen one, a lot of people go cheap on their turbo setups or have no idea what they're doing. Me and my buddy did his turbo setup from flyin miata and he's been daily driving it for while up until recently because he doesn't want to rack up miles on his baby. Bur s2ks here in MD are quite the penny if you're trying to get one in good condition
Fun is subjective, but a s2000 making similar power to a turbo Miata will still be faster around corners. But I agree with you, a turbo Miata is still fun and can be faster (in a straight line) than a s2000.
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That pedal configuration alone kinda shows where the engineers put an emphasis for the car's usage. And I'm liking the full canyon run pov excerpt too you should keep doing these.
the funniest thing I read is when people say all Hondas are shit except the NSX and s2000,lol.
What made Honda what it is is their FF cars.
@@_WyreTheWolf why didnt they just make rwd tho
@@_WyreTheWolf you can oversteer fwd?
@@_WyreTheWolf thanks for explanation
Enjoyed this video; recently picked up a 99 Type SH, first stick shift, and I love it.
I agree about the quality of Hondas from the 90's and early 2000's. I had a 1992 Prelude and now a 2006 S2000 and 2004 CR-V. Even the CR-V feels much better quality than newer models.
These gen Preludes are fun cars for sure :)
I wanted a prelude so bad back when i was 17-18 and really getting into imports. Very dope cars it’s a shame they got discontinued
I grew up driving on calavaras road in Milpitas. i haven't driven it in 30 years but i still recognize the road.
"Miata guys will be Miata guys" hahaha best quote ever
НАТО в шоке, США обосрались you need a tune on your S2000 to pass a Miata? :)
Michael Cohen I can pass them in my stock s2000 lmao
Honda guys will be Honda guys.
@@luisnavarrete8961 I could pass one with my Toaster
"S2000s aren't that expensive."
I wanna know where the hell you are, because I'd love to spend less than 25k 😂😂
Cars.com bro I found one for 15k
I found one for 9k in Tennessee lol
for real I think almost any miata owner would rather have an s2000, but the miata is 1/5 the price in my market XD Still, i am saving for an s2000 someday
Preludes are the way to go man
you dont need atts in a prelude to be able to have amazing corner capability. i have a base model, and cornering on stock suspension is super easy, and i can corner very very fast
Its true, but ATTS makes a pretty noticeable difference. I've driven the car with it off and the cornering doesn't feel the same.
Honda Enthusiast Channel the atts makes a huge difference, still a good hadling car but not like the sh....
you have a gram?
Honestly, i have a 97 base model 5 speed and i want to throw a set of coilovers on to lower it down an inch so it handles really really good. They weigh 100 lbs less than the atts equipped Type SH and I've heard that those atts can fail and be very costly to fix
Import Enthusiast Channel @ ThatRedSH
It won't shift out of vtec if you shift fast enough (; I know, I have a prelude as well.
I wanna pick one up, used to own teggy and I always had a soft spot for these cars
I hear so much bashing on the auto trans, but I beat the hell out of mine and it was the original still going strong at just under 200K
Spicy Tuna it's inevitable, as enthusiasts any sort of auto trans strips a car of its performance value. That's y they get so much bashing, because they're being viewed through enthusiast eyes. If you owned both a manual and auto I guarantee ud enjoy driving the manual more 😁
Its not that you just want a manual for a car like the prelude (because you do) but ive heard the auto trans was notoriously and uncharacteristically shitty. The fact you beat the shit out of your lude and it still works fine is apparently the exception to the norm. I have a 97 base model lude with a 5 speed and love driving it. Only has 106k original miles.
Honda Prelude = fun car.
Shift at 8 grand and she'll stay in VTEC.
mehftv Even when you redline second gear, third gear will be at 4800 after you shift. It only happens in third
Alic Segura red line and rev limit / rev cut is 2 different things in a honda
Normal h22 red line is 7400 and rev cut is 7950 ish depending on model
So reving it out past redline all the way to rev cut is the way to stay in vtec
John Strong Shift between 3000 and 3500 , keeps it from burning so much oil , vetec's kicks in sets the oil on fier , i see lots of guys flooring them at high rpms but at the end of the day , they been done burned up a lot of oil ......
anttwon brown daily driving thats close to what i do, maybe 4k
But my current engine doesn't burn oil at all because ive rebuilt it
But on a canyon run where you are having some fun an 8k shift is so much more fun
The trick is to not sit at high rpm if you know it burns oil
John Strong Yeah I can agree on that one , in Atlanta any were closed to 285 is super fun , it's my first VTEC , well I had a LS Monte Carlo with a V8 VTEC but it's my first Honda , my dad had a prelude when he was in high school, A 1981 Prelude and laft me in the back seat behind the high School , I was raised by my grands ever sent , I afraid of destroying the engine so I try not to go to high on the RPM's , I bought the car from a used dealer , whoever had it before me must not had much time for it or got other plans , but it runs in the family , thunder birds , mustangs , Ford Taurus and Preludes all SHO's overhead Cam's ....
I miss my 2000 Prelude SH so much 😭😭😭😭
I found a base model at 170k for 2900 is it worth?
Flat is the body good? Only issue on these cars is that the body condition is going to need to be at least acceptable
@@alansmilealot yea
You just said what all other Honda fanboys say. Is just a Prelude! Reality is...This is THE Prelude!
VTEC KICKED IN YO
you can thank the 2 lower ball joints(per side) for the lack of torque steer fyi.and btw, you dont fall out of vtec when shifting in any gear, tach might be off....
motherofmusic 2 actually the equal length drive shafts makes more difference
Gotta drive it like you stole it, itll be in vtec for sure.
"Just buy an S2000 they're not that expensive" 5 years later: 😭😭😭😭
It doesn’t drop out of vtec in second either. You just have to rev it a little higher past indicated redline.
Only thing I can see that I'd change is the steering rack speed. Maybe I'm just imagining (and also granted, I haven't driven one) but it just seems to take so many turns to get into a corner, even compared to my 03 Protege.
The reason it's dropping out of vtec is because the tach is off by about 500 rpm by the time you get to the top so it'll look like you're changing at 8100-8200. If you keep that in mind you'll stay in vtec just fine. That's my experience from my 01 type SH at least.
True. The tachs on these cars are not accurate especially at higher RPM
Not true. Get it close to 8k and it is staying in unicorn fart mode
gotta love a honda
Is this car stock? No turbo or aftermarket exhaust or anything??? Because I fucking LOVE that sound!
Great POV. It reminds me of Winding Road Magazine's videos in terms of camera quality and set-up. One recommendation that I would suggest is to use binaural microphones to enhance the audio...which Winding Road also uses.
You should do a POV drive video of your new NSX! Keep up the great content! =)
Good recommendations!
How much oil did it burn on this run
lol lol non
@@yourfather5324 not possible its an h22 dummy it obv burns oil
lol lol it was a joke
Cant wait to hear what you have to say about your next car.
Love my 01 sh. 115k on the clock. I would let go for 7k.
Let me go on to say that not all Hondas are fun to drive. I have an HR-V and I hate that thing. Seemed like a decent car at first. Now I hate it because it's the opposite of fun.
I'll be getting a Civic Type R or a Focus RS as soon as I'm done paying this thing off.
When you buy a crossover and expect it to be fun...
This has pushed me to buy one
I had this car.
Man! That must have felt like being on rails!
you mentioned automatic everything is worse lol reminded me of Saab which isn't that way, sort of. if you're modifying one, you can do more and get more out of the automatic transmission Saabs 9-3 phoenix body Era. it's probably not as enjoyable but depends on if someone prefers power to a manual that might be less reliable
bucket seats and an aftermarket 320mm steering wheel can solve the knee-wheel issue :D
do you mind if I ask which canyon is this? thanks.
actually nevermind I've been in this canyon before I realized it by the end of the video
more of this
More like behind the scenes :)
do you like the prelude more than the rsx? if so, why?
Hard to say. Prelude has better stock suspension, steering, and driving position. RSX-S has the better engine and tunability. Stock vs stock I would probably have the Prelude. RSX-S for mods.
@@Zygrene agreed! (97 base 5speed prelude owner)
Heel-toe shifting works well for these cars if you practice enough
no torque steer because active torque vectoring in the sh model
these roads look awfully familiar, is this Mt. Hamilton?
Maybe
what wpuld haave happened if a car pulled out of a driveway?
I have an SH and by god are they rare anymore with all the people that fucked them up
You can live with a Miata every day - the S2000 scan be so racy it's annoing sometimes
I got my prelude for 1900NZD Type sir h22a vtec 5 speed
2 dudes in a sports car
What kind of mods??
It reminds me of my 19 civic si, thing corners flat like this
Is that Mike's car? LOL
Its so much cheaper to turbo charge an na miata than buy a honda s2k. we talking about a 3,000 dollar miata with 6,000 to turbocharge compared to a 17 ,000+ dollar s2k. Ive driven my buddies s2k and I cant lie and say its not fun, but Id never buy an s2k over my miata. BTW im 6'2 and can heel toe perfectly fine with stock seats and stock steering wheel, maybe you need to work on your technique ;)
Eh, been there. I have yet to see forced induction be done as reliably as a factory tuned engine. S2ks dont cost that much anymore. more like 13k for a decent one. I guess miatas have just never done much for me. If you really love NA engines its hard to beat a honda engine too.
slashbashin I understand that you haven't seen one, a lot of people go cheap on their turbo setups or have no idea what they're doing. Me and my buddy did his turbo setup from flyin miata and he's been daily driving it for while up until recently because he doesn't want to rack up miles on his baby. Bur s2ks here in MD are quite the penny if you're trying to get one in good condition
My same buddy is gonna try and turbo his miata with that kit now so I guess we will see how he does.
Fun is subjective, but a s2000 making similar power to a turbo Miata will still be faster around corners. But I agree with you, a turbo Miata is still fun and can be faster (in a straight line) than a s2000.
Exactly. Honda guys, will be honda guys
Lol i got mine for 1400$
That-Random-Guy I’m about to get one for 1500
Slow! I’ll do it way faster
The driver has a girlish accent to his voice... sounds like my teenage daughter.. I’m waiting for him to say “awesome”
Post pics od ur daughters feet