Ford: "Hahahaha honda, look at are engineering, we have made Much cleaner car then you... " Honda: "..... How did you solve your oil problem? " Ford: " ........ "
Ford: look Honda I have a better edge over u all cases. Look at our pickup trucks like F150 WHICH ARE SUPER RELIABLE. THEY HAVE BETTER OIL CONSUMPTION SYSTEM THAN YOU. SHOW ME YOUR PICKUP TRUCKS LIKE THE FI50. HONDA: NOOOOOOOOOO. THIS CAN'T HAPPEN
I definitely can't see any potential problems if that belt driving the oil pump fails. And I'm sure that when it comes to replacing that belt-in-oil which lives deep inside the engine the garage will complete the job in 20 mins.
jonty cthe king r u kidding .the only time you will know when the belt has gone .is when the oil light comes on? and then many times the damage has already been done . trust me i am a doctor .
Idiotic! Saving money during manufacturing while sacrificing reliability. Why can’t these idiots understand consumers are willing to pay premium for quality? That’s why the Mercedes OM616 diésel engine is king!
@@PatrickBaptist indeed how can they think that was a smart idea? They say are cambelts need changing Evey 60-80k Miles or Evey 5 years, how is this going to last?? At least put a chain on it that would last years and years...
@@Chappers.Gaming Right, that is the new trend though, make engine unable to last, that equates to more engines being sold and parts. I'll take my good ol 2000 F350 with the 7.3 powerstroke any day over any brand new engine. I've got close to 490k miles on the odo and it still runs strong and hasn't seen any major engine repairs, fires u[ good in the cold and I don't even bother with a block heater, just trans and rear diff couldn't last that long. Plus I can brew my own fuel without worrying about screwing over a high pressure fuel pump with the HEUI injection.
You hit the nail on the head. Ford is just building what average consumer wants. Something that works well and has high performance for 1 to 2 years because after that who cares if its reliable anyways. Its time to get the new latest and greatest like the neighbors just got. All new vehicles are throw away vehicles. Like the new chevy truck with the turbo 4 cylinder engine or the hemmi v8 with e torque
Yeah. Regardless of teeth in the belt - they all sap energy through tension and rolling force. It's less efficient than a gear train and more prone to breakage (no oil = ded engine). This is simply Ford making things that cannot be repaired. Another example is the sealed cam system - that's a whole new cam set and metal holder/cradle which will cost far too much. This isn't about eco and saving the planet - this is about giving work to Ford service dealerships. Don't even get me started on adblu injection. Combine adblu to the fuel figures quoted and add in the chemical processing to make adblu and ship it. My son's a car mechanic and the Ecoboost engines are only good for 70k miles and then they fall to bits.
@@jackking5567 I changed to diesels for similar reasons.. aswell as high torque at low revs, found petrol engines deteriorate or become expensive around 100K whereas never had a diesel wear or lose performance
@@alextran8188 kinda hard to beat gear to gear for reliability wouldn't you say?😊 Bullock's with cost effective when cars cost what they do these days eh
The first thing that crossed my mind when I heard that was the ceramic turbo bearings in the early 6.7 Power Stroke. They turned to dust within the first 50k!
After watching this I’m gonna keep on driving my 1995 OBS 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel. No DEF, NO Belt drive oil pump, no over head cam, and no belt drive timing belt. Only a mechanical oil pump, pushrod heads and Hewie electric/mechanically driven injectors. Just what I like, tough and reliable with proper maintenance.
I was excited for a little bit, but the longer I watched, the less excited I got. And why the heck would they go to not only a timing belt, but also a belt driven oil pump - both of which look brutally difficult to get to?!?!?! I don't think I'd never own one of those. Sure it's cool for the first 70,000 miles, but after that, it looks like it'll basically be disposable.
Chief engineer: All right everyone we're making an all new 4 cylinder diesel, what are some suggestions for it? Engineer in the back: BeLt DRiVeN OiL PuMp Chief engineer: I like this guy
Egr build in to the cylinder head? What a great idea, if egr fails now you will need new cylinder head... I dont know what kind of drugs do thet take, but i definitely want to try it as well.
Aleksander Tabaczyński It’s removable and replaceable. No separate cooling loop needed, no huge hang-on external cooler, easy slid-out replacement. It’s an excellent design.
It's like Ford engineers start with clean sheet of paper, have some great ideas, but there is always that one engineer, who slips his planned obsolescence ideas in without everyone noticing it.
Apple_Marty Czech It's just crazy. The moment in the 1980's when engineers and the cost accounting bean-counters became comfortable with timing belts in interference engines, was the beginning of the end of the automobile.
I don't mind interference engine, as long as it has atleast chain-driven oilpump. Better yet, chain-driven camshafts. I mean, any engine can do milion miles with proper maintanance. The difference is when you really start abusing it. Something is gonna break. And nowadays engines are made to not just break, but to self-destruct when abused. Thumbs up for 2L diesel, but thumbs down the dorky belt-driven oil pump.
Apple_Marty Czech Yeah, but a timing belt failure on an interference engine is just as fatal as an oil pump failure would be. The engine I was thinking of was the little 4 cylinder diesels used in the 1980's Volkswagen Golfs and Rabbits. It was a an awesome engine, and extremely fuel efficient, but it was an interference engine with a timing belt, and many have died because of this.
I have old VW engine, with belt on it and its old as 20 years. Still running. Belt been changed every 4 years or so and until recently it was always filled up with oil bit over the top mark on the oil stick. It ain't no performer, nor sounding great, but it goes. It's bulletproof design, the relic of 70's/80's technology.
I like this motor till they talked about belt drivin oil pump and timing then I finally said I wouldn't buy one after it said they had a intergraded egr system in the cylinder head.
looks like only the port is in the head(in a watercooled jacket i supose). Mercedes EGR ports are going thru the head since nearly 20 years. The big problem with the egr is the valve clogging. you probably can't get around the channels clogging up, maybe with a special coating on all the ports...
We should start placing bets on how long it takes for the EGR ports to clog!!! Ok, ok... All jokes aside, what do you think... Second biggest class action lawsuit since the 6.0l ?! :)
Poopy Pants diggity yeah they do make great engines, but they STILL haven't figured out how to engineer the other stuff that _constantly_ fail and cause the typical dodge oil leak.
mxr they do now own cummins they bought a 10.8% share in 1990 then in 1998 cummins bought it back and ford has not owned any of cummins since so research it
there's a big word around the Dodge new 2019 1500 four- cylinder diesel that's going to be from Cummins. and I think they're going to be using them in the Jeeps and all around the cars as well which I'm sorry but Cummins engines are proven to last forever their engines cost more money for a reason very reliable
Jeep is the V6 3.0 diesel. The old jeep liberty had a diesel that was great, hard to find anyone letting them go... to bad its ugly as fk. The new Cummins is "supposedly" gotten rid of the EGR system all together, (grape vine to a Cummins engineering tech I know)
We've had countless wet belts fail. Costing us a fortune. Funnily enough ford are recalling many of them. Maybe they should have learned of the 1.8 lynx engines
Guys complaining about the oil and timing belt, I think you are thinking old rubber timing belts that did not like oil. It appears that Ford has solved this issue as both the timing and oil pump belt run within the crankcase. Clever. Effectively a modern chain ... Here is some reading material on this new type of belt (which never needs changing): www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.ngfeurope.com/~/media/NGF%2520Europe/Site%2520Content/News/Automotive%2520Design%2520Europe%2520Feature.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiyxZ7e59_hAhVVWysKHVDiBuIQFjABegQIDhAE&usg=AOvVaw1RecKRtJbfa9A49jvI8H4C
Ford knew they had big issues with the petrol 1.0-1.6 ecoboost engines they issued a recall in America 2014 but not until 2018 in the UK even though they the exact same engines so why wait another 4 years to recall it ? That's the reason I don't really trust them anymore
As a heavy equipment and truck mechanic I absolutely hate the direction FoMoCo has taken in the way they are designing and building their trucks. They are / will be long term night mare for the owners
fnnor, and could last the life of the engine.... Belts also lengthen and have plenty of friction. The better answer is why not gear driven, and the answer is... wait for it.... money.
You mean a belt driven oil pump, never heard of an oil driven belt. I don't know about that, what I do know is that there's no freaken way I'd rely on it. But heck I won't even rely on belt driven cams, so....
A belt? Not a chain? Apparently Ford is still in the 90s. News flash, giving your engine a fancy environmentally friendly name, and having an englishman narrate your videos does not make it innovative.
The new design is in the shop getting repairs not driving down the road. And rubber bands to run the pump and timing sound wonderful. So every 30 k miles its getting new belts. And on the back of a tow truck when they stretch
Belt in oil is just looking for an early failure. My previous Mk4 Mondeo 1.8 nearly had a snapped belt. I replaced it at 90k which was well below the recommended interval. The belt was cracked between every tooth . The correct ford oil had been used since new.
Had one in a ford transit custom, never had an issue and never a breakdown, has over 150,000 miles on the clock. It was serviced at the intervals stated by ford. I cannot see any issues and tbh most engines are throw away now, labour rates just don't lend well to rebuilding.
This is one of the best videos describing the new technology on new generation IC engines. Although I would like if you could have expanded on the turbocharger selection and pressures involved used to downsize this engine from 2.2 to 2.0ltr. Anyway, great video, much better than Ford US and a guy talking rubbish about a 7.6 liter engine
I see Ford has learned nothing from it's past mistakes with the 6.0L. It almost started leaking oil as I was watching the video. Good for them however designing a new combustion engine especially a diesel. Diesels are the most efficient engines available, if you don't modify them. Though electric may work for some people, I for one will never buy a hybrid as long a conventional vehicles are available because diesels get better fuel mileage better performance, have lower maintainence costs and are cheeper. Electric cars will never replace combustion until they cost the same, can go 700 miles on a charge, can be recharged in 6 minutes, and have charging stations at every gas station including the mom and pop ones in the middle of Wyoming. Electric cars have a very limited market, don't forget they pollute the environment as well just somewhere else. We should be looking at cradle to grave emissions. Meaning every kind of emissions not just air pollution.
That is simply not true. Untreated diesel (no fuel additives), exhaust contains carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, and particulates as well heavy metals and H2O and O2. DEF treated diesel exhaust also contains ammonia. Add fuel additives and now you get highly toxic dioxins and furans.
Starting in 2010 Ford built all there diesels in house. International cut ties with Ford because Ford didn't want to pay fair market price for thier engines. It took a judge to order Ford to pay.
Idk because last time I checked injectors, injection pumps and etc aren't cheap. Plus the 3 gallon plus oil changes aren't cheaper than gas especially fuel. But that's why I love them.
William Snyder Ford also lost their rump on warranty claims on the 6.0 Power Stroke. From what I understand, Ford sued Navistar for warranty money. Navistar's saving grace was bigger trucks didn't have nearly the problems, partially because the emissions requirements are different between class 2&3 trucks and class 4 and up. I read something like 60% of the 6.0's had warranty claims.
They use that set up in the 3liter diesel 1500 no issues yet . But they don't have the problems that dodge had with sprockets and rods. Belts are tough and quieter.
so much innovation :) so much future problems :) maintenance free belt ... driving the oil pump... i see a lot of seized engines. but hey... it's eco :)
Everyone seems to be complaining about the same things they complained about when EFI first hit the market. Too complex, too many thing to break, they don't make them like they used to. Thank God they don't make them like they used too! I don't like getting 10mpg, changing spark plugs every 30,000 miles and oil every 3,000!
Ford's remarkable engine. UK Motorhome owner's have just this week been given a free upgrade to 5 years parts and labour warranty for the for the new transit as a good will gesture for the trouble they have experienced with the new 2.0 ltr diesel.
Ford has really lost there way Always last to the party I am the biggest ford fan boy And sorry to say that ford are not building the cars I want anymore They talk about one ford And still not bringing any good cars to U.K.
I love how the two belt driven wheels about 30 seconds in doesn't rotate the same way xD The animator must've thought of cogs overlapping each other while animating this
Sustainability is first and foremost three things, when it comes to products, namely products need to be 1) Durable 2) Repairable and rebuildable 3) Recyclable. So, a diesel engine needs to last 500k (km), after which it's repaired for the next 500k, after which it's rebuilt. Repeat this cycle for 3-4 times after which it's time to recycle. Thank you, sir. Well... actually diesel engine should last at least 1 million km without major repairs. The same goes for transmission.
Now all Ford needs to do is pair these new ecoblue engines with cars before all countries BAN diesels , come on Ford, why so LATE I mean countries like India,Australia etc are waiting for a smart Fiesta ,Ecosport,Focus, Kuga/Escape, Edge etc with these engines And what about pairing the new 9 speed Automatic with diesel engines?
Ponygt 662 diesel won't be banned , don't believe the politicians. Trains and lorries have an infrastructure based on diesel engines. There is no technology available to replace diesel in heavy haulage. There is already tech available making diesel cleaner than petrol for emissions. There is always an underlying financial basis. Governments need taxes and no better way than taxing diesel. If people move to petrol they get more tax anyway as they are not as efficient so you buy more fuel. Electric or hybrid just isn't there yet.
Diesel can never be as clean as petrol , petrols emit far less NOx than diesels, COx true diesels can go as low or lower than gas engines, but not NOx which is also a major pollutant I am not saying diesel for trucks will be eliminated, but for everyday cars, they might start disappearing in another 5 years time
How does the EGR system work with the turbo? Are they feeding exhaust gas on the input side of the turbo compressor? That seems like a good way to ruin turbochargers.
Belt in oil sump. I can see it now. You oil pump belt needs replacing that'll be $6500 in labor and $12.99 in parts
Boost lord be
Havent replaced any on 1.0 EcoBoosts yet... some have well over 100k miles on them.
And $20 in shop supplies
Boost lord ,oh wait you can't make any money at $12.99/ the belt would be $500.= $7,000.00 replacement cost.
that was one of the first things i frowned at
All the talk about power and efficiency yet gave no numbers...
Trey K no power no doubt
All things are this much better: |.....|
It's more tq then the v8 but less then the ecoboost from the last time I heard. The numbers are out there
105, 130, 170 hp and also more powerful versions with 213 and 238 hp (biturbo version, Ford Ranger Raptor, Ford Ranger T6 2019)
@@AgentSmith911 mpg?
Efficiency, performance, refinement....
Didn’t mention longevity hey boys 👍
Honda: I bet you can’t build a clean Diesel engine just like the new Crv
Ford: Hold my oil
*Hold my spanner*
Hold my safety and built quality
Ford: "Hahahaha honda, look at are engineering, we have made Much cleaner car then you... "
Honda: "..... How did you solve your oil problem? "
Ford: " ........ "
Ford: look Honda I have a better edge over u all cases. Look at our pickup trucks like F150 WHICH ARE SUPER RELIABLE. THEY HAVE BETTER OIL CONSUMPTION SYSTEM THAN YOU. SHOW ME YOUR PICKUP TRUCKS LIKE THE FI50.
HONDA: NOOOOOOOOOO. THIS CAN'T HAPPEN
It's same as new dragon engine by Ford..
I definitely can't see any potential problems if that belt driving the oil pump fails.
And I'm sure that when it comes to replacing that belt-in-oil which lives deep inside the engine the garage will complete the job in 20 mins.
jonty cthe king r u kidding .the only time you will know when the belt has gone .is when the oil light comes on? and then many times the damage has already been done . trust me i am a doctor .
@@kimbird6554 He was only sarcastic
@@kimbird6554 - ffs don't you see the sarcasm? 😄😃😂😁😀
@@markfox1545 becouse he cant be sarcastic. hell, you might even be sarcastic
So a gear or chain drive will never fail but a lubed belt will? Ive had two oil pump drives fail at 130k and 150k due to stripped gears.
Engineer; Belt drive oil pump
Me; your fired
Skye Iorfida yeah its giving me the fear...
And urea filler next to the fuel filler.
Can any of you spell?
@@19grand hahahahaha true aye
Idiotic! Saving money during manufacturing while sacrificing reliability. Why can’t these idiots understand consumers are willing to pay premium for quality?
That’s why the Mercedes OM616 diésel engine is king!
Oil bath timing belt? Truly a "throw away" engine.
How much plastic is in that engine which will harden and crack due to heat?
Plenty.
Doesn't matter they won't see high mileage/life with that belt drive lube pump.
@@PatrickBaptist indeed how can they think that was a smart idea? They say are cambelts need changing Evey 60-80k Miles or Evey 5 years, how is this going to last?? At least put a chain on it that would last years and years...
@@Chappers.Gaming Right, that is the new trend though, make engine unable to last, that equates to more engines being sold and parts.
I'll take my good ol 2000 F350 with the 7.3 powerstroke any day over any brand new engine. I've got close to 490k miles on the odo and it still runs strong and hasn't seen any major engine repairs, fires u[ good in the cold and I don't even bother with a block heater, just trans and rear diff couldn't last that long. Plus I can brew my own fuel without worrying about screwing over a high pressure fuel pump with the HEUI injection.
@@Chappers.Gaming Cambelts need to be changed once in 240 000 km according to Australian specs 2.0 EcoBlue. This means never for 80% of owners.
When it comes time to change the oil pump belt, I foresee a lot of used vans coming onto the second hand market.
Ford engineers forgot to put water pump in between engine block and the head
Mine has had 2 engines in 3 years. 77000 miles & an engine change required, it's a game changer alright.
As an engineer myself, all I can say is : “really, belt drive!” Could you go any cheaper and just use string maybe.
Lmao. Shoelaces maybe
haha. or maybe use a cooper wire😂
why don't you just say. " the all new ford disposable diesel engine "
You hit the nail on the head. Ford is just building what average consumer wants. Something that works well and has high performance for 1 to 2 years because after that who cares if its reliable anyways. Its time to get the new latest and greatest like the neighbors just got. All new vehicles are throw away vehicles. Like the new chevy truck with the turbo 4 cylinder engine or the hemmi v8 with e torque
thats a good one
Nailed it
If the engine is disposed of the car probably will be with it. Bad for consumer, but good for Ford.
AMEN, but that is the trend anymore, junk engines = more engines sold.
Generally speaking when somebody refers to something as "Game Changing" it rarely is.
Evil Empire hence SoundCloud rappers
It is game changing from something working to something in the shop after warranty runs out
I don't know man look at segways /s
Belt driven oil pump wow real smart ,another winner from ford
SCREAMS IN CRACKED CYLINDER WALLS AND HYDROLOCKED ENGINES
Did that man just say belt driven oil pump??
Yeah. Regardless of teeth in the belt - they all sap energy through tension and rolling force. It's less efficient than a gear train and more prone to breakage (no oil = ded engine).
This is simply Ford making things that cannot be repaired. Another example is the sealed cam system - that's a whole new cam set and metal holder/cradle which will cost far too much.
This isn't about eco and saving the planet - this is about giving work to Ford service dealerships.
Don't even get me started on adblu injection. Combine adblu to the fuel figures quoted and add in the chemical processing to make adblu and ship it.
My son's a car mechanic and the Ecoboost engines are only good for 70k miles and then they fall to bits.
Why not gear to gear?
@@jackking5567 I changed to diesels for similar reasons.. aswell as high torque at low revs, found petrol engines deteriorate or become expensive around 100K whereas never had a diesel wear or lose performance
@@crispincurtis8585 Cause gear to gear isn't as cost effective, and is louder which most consumers don't like loud engines.
@@alextran8188 kinda hard to beat gear to gear for reliability wouldn't you say?😊 Bullock's with cost effective when cars cost what they do these days eh
"Special bearings"
Ben Lauderdale Aren’t all bearings made of “special” metals. 🤫🤫🤫🤫
Ben Lauderdale yeah we saw those in the 6.4 right?
'' Special '' means more expensive in dealership language ; wait for it ! ;)
Ave taught us about special frictionless bearings iirc
The first thing that crossed my mind when I heard that was the ceramic turbo bearings in the early 6.7 Power Stroke. They turned to dust within the first 50k!
After watching this I’m gonna keep on driving my 1995 OBS 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel. No DEF, NO Belt drive oil pump, no over head cam, and no belt drive timing belt. Only a mechanical oil pump, pushrod heads and Hewie electric/mechanically driven injectors. Just what I like, tough and reliable with proper maintenance.
Rubber belts for guaranteed maintenance intervals! Thanks Ford for ensuring we have to chance bending valves when these snap, eventually.
I was excited for a little bit, but the longer I watched, the less excited I got. And why the heck would they go to not only a timing belt, but also a belt driven oil pump - both of which look brutally difficult to get to?!?!?! I don't think I'd never own one of those. Sure it's cool for the first 70,000 miles, but after that, it looks like it'll basically be disposable.
Yup my son's a car mechanic and tells me the Ecoboost engines are great but once at 70k miles they implode or have too many problems.
Chief engineer: All right everyone we're making an all new 4 cylinder diesel, what are some suggestions for it?
Engineer in the back: BeLt DRiVeN OiL PuMp
Chief engineer: I like this guy
That belt driven oil pump looks very sketchy
I love how easy it is to removed the egr and Def system from the 2.0 and tune it. Thank you ford
Egr build in to the cylinder head? What a great idea, if egr fails now you will need new cylinder head...
I dont know what kind of drugs do thet take, but i definitely want to try it as well.
Aleksander Tabaczyński I was thinking the exact same thing what stupid idea
Aleksander Tabaczyński It’s removable and replaceable. No separate cooling loop needed, no huge hang-on external cooler, easy slid-out replacement. It’s an excellent design.
It's Detroit, so I suspect they smoke a lot of crack at Ford.
A belt driven oil pump???!?!? It's like asking for a belt-driven life support machine!!!! Gears sprockets, and chains, all the way!!!!!
It's like Ford engineers start with clean sheet of paper, have some great ideas, but there is always that one engineer, who slips his planned obsolescence ideas in without everyone noticing it.
Apple_Marty Czech
It's just crazy. The moment in the 1980's when engineers and the cost accounting bean-counters became comfortable with timing belts in interference engines, was the beginning of the end of the automobile.
I don't mind interference engine, as long as it has atleast chain-driven oilpump. Better yet, chain-driven camshafts. I mean, any engine can do milion miles with proper maintanance. The difference is when you really start abusing it. Something is gonna break. And nowadays engines are made to not just break, but to self-destruct when abused. Thumbs up for 2L diesel, but thumbs down the dorky belt-driven oil pump.
Apple_Marty Czech
Yeah, but a timing belt failure on an interference engine is just as fatal as an oil pump failure would be. The engine I was thinking of was the little 4 cylinder diesels used in the 1980's Volkswagen Golfs and Rabbits. It was a an awesome engine, and extremely fuel efficient, but it was an interference engine with a timing belt, and many have died because of this.
I have old VW engine, with belt on it and its old as 20 years. Still running. Belt been changed every 4 years or so and until recently it was always filled up with oil bit over the top mark on the oil stick.
It ain't no performer, nor sounding great, but it goes. It's bulletproof design, the relic of 70's/80's technology.
Belt driven oil pump
To make sure your Ford needs towing - Ford 2017
I was thinking of getting a Ford Ranger Raptor in the Philippines. But when i saw that unsealed belt driven oil pump @ 0:50, i changed my mind. 🤦♂️
Same
A handful of wildtrak owners are crying over injector issues of the 2.0 🤣🤣🤣
I like this motor till they talked about belt drivin oil pump and timing then I finally said I wouldn't buy one after it said they had a intergraded egr system in the cylinder head.
So when there is an egr failure, you replace the cylinder head? I'm just curious!
looks like only the port is in the head(in a watercooled jacket i supose).
Mercedes EGR ports are going thru the head since nearly 20 years.
The big problem with the egr is the valve clogging.
you probably can't get around the channels clogging up, maybe with a special coating on all the ports...
Egr and cylinder heads always work out great lmao
We should start placing bets on how long it takes for the EGR ports to clog!!! Ok, ok... All jokes aside, what do you think... Second biggest class action lawsuit since the 6.0l ?! :)
Jordan no they will steal a design that works
Fords pevious 2.0 diesel Fiasco wasnt ennough?
This is what you call a disposable engine...
Difficulty of maintenance aka maintenance free... = disposable...
AKA chevy Vaga.
Yea the Chevy Vega LOL...
Franco Vision nowadays, they all are...
Yep lease it sell it scrap it...
You should get some cummins engineers... I heard they make decent diesels.
Poopy Pants diggity yeah they do make great engines, but they STILL haven't figured out how to engineer the other stuff that _constantly_ fail and cause the typical dodge oil leak.
that random dude named mike no oil leak on my cummins and i know alot of cummins that dont leak oil
Poopy Pants diggity ..who do you think owns cummins? ford.. research it..
mxr they do now own cummins they bought a 10.8% share in 1990 then in 1998 cummins bought it back and ford has not owned any of cummins since so research it
Ford tries to hard. Cummins is legendary cat is neck and neck duramax is second best n ford well is explained better by amiri king
Are the front pulleys turning in opposite directions?? And belt driven oil pump inside the engine??? Come on guys!!!
there's a big word around the Dodge new 2019 1500 four- cylinder diesel that's going to be from Cummins. and I think they're going to be using them in the Jeeps and all around the cars as well which I'm sorry but Cummins engines are proven to last forever their engines cost more money for a reason very reliable
Have fun in your fiat
Wander if it's a redo of the venerable old 4cyl Cummins. With some modern injection systems? That would be cool.
Jeep is the V6 3.0 diesel. The old jeep liberty had a diesel that was great, hard to find anyone letting them go... to bad its ugly as fk.
The new Cummins is "supposedly" gotten rid of the EGR system all together, (grape vine to a Cummins engineering tech I know)
I mean so did the 7.3 powerstroke and idi
Coolbreeze0988 Chrysler is as much a 'Fiat' as they were a 'Mercedes' when owned by Diamler. Kind of a "um...no" on that one, sry.
Does it catch on fire?
So when do the oil pump belts get changed and I bet the engine is fucked when the belt fails
famas482 just like my 5.4's high mileage spark plugs which failed and seized in the heads at 74,000k
The day after the warranty is up.
Belt driven oil pump lmfao that has to be the dumbest thing ever made. That belt fails and it's bye bye motor.
Yup, but to be fair there's a lot of engines where if a belt fails you're fucked. But.... those belts aren't bathed in oil.
Meme Man did that happen with the last wet belt ford did, hmmm no. Someone's deluded lol, sorry
Thanks for warning us
A disposable, single use engine! Just what I needed!
And I will buy it.
Not at all. It's very well engineered.
Next level of impossible to repair and very hi service priced engine.
Throw away engine.
Yeaaah,good robust powerful engine,for almost 10.000 km :)))
yeah as if you have a ford
Sealed camshaft module means your screwed if you wanna upgrade cams 👍 awesome.
We've had countless wet belts fail. Costing us a fortune. Funnily enough ford are recalling many of them. Maybe they should have learned of the 1.8 lynx engines
I'm so glad I own a pre-DEF 2006 Mercedes sprinter with 2.7 litre diesel.
That DEF Gizmo is something to avoid.
Just one more thing to make urea base fertilizer to rise in cist
No need to steal fertilizer. You can pee directly into the convenient urea filler.
For those curious it's max rated output from Ford spec sheet is about 170 horse and 300 ft lbs. I didn't find numbers on fuel economy
i had a 125bhp one in a loan transit with only 3000 miles (UK) on the clock, and averaged 43mpg.
Guys complaining about the oil and timing belt, I think you are thinking old rubber timing belts that did not like oil.
It appears that Ford has solved this issue as both the timing and oil pump belt run within the crankcase.
Clever. Effectively a modern chain ... Here is some reading material on this new type of belt (which never needs changing): www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.ngfeurope.com/~/media/NGF%2520Europe/Site%2520Content/News/Automotive%2520Design%2520Europe%2520Feature.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiyxZ7e59_hAhVVWysKHVDiBuIQFjABegQIDhAE&usg=AOvVaw1RecKRtJbfa9A49jvI8H4C
It's fine when the belt snaps and the engine seizes ford will issue a recall to fit a alarm warning the belt broke instead of fixing the issue
Seem like no one trusts Ford anymore...😣
Ford knew they had big issues with the petrol 1.0-1.6 ecoboost engines they issued a recall in America 2014 but not until 2018 in the UK even though they the exact same engines so why wait another 4 years to recall it ? That's the reason I don't really trust them anymore
Everyone cribbing on about belt driven oil pump VW have the same set up on there engines too
I now own the company, thank you for supporting.
In 1970'ties Lada had cylinder offset too, so... =D
all prius do it for years too
yeah Ford and diesel in the same sentence are tough to hear....as far as that goes Ford and ECO anything can't be good .. Oh the humanity....
Is this actually ford engine or psa collaboration? The wet belts are a nightmare idea, certainly not designed for long life and easy maintenance.
It’s pure Ford, not even psa would design such a poor engine
Ford 300 inline six still the best engine made by ford to this day
As a heavy equipment and truck mechanic I absolutely hate the direction FoMoCo has taken in the way they are designing and building their trucks. They are / will be long term night mare for the owners
Thanks for being so specific. I'll be sure and buy a Toyota then
Paul Bjarnason yup.... you can't beat the manual trans 6spd
No, unfortunately, Ford does not offer a manual transmission in its trucks!
Why not put a chain on the oil pump?
How much hp?
because a chain is louder and has more friction than a belt and could lenght over time
fnnor, and could last the life of the engine.... Belts also lengthen and have plenty of friction. The better answer is why not gear driven, and the answer is... wait for it.... money.
an oil driven belt runs in the 1.0 Ecoboost for many Years now and there arent any Problems with this way of engineering
You mean a belt driven oil pump, never heard of an oil driven belt. I don't know about that, what I do know is that there's no freaken way I'd rely on it. But heck I won't even rely on belt driven cams, so....
Howard Rourke gear driven would add a lot if weight and inertia. Also there could be disadvantages regarding vibrations
A belt? Not a chain? Apparently Ford is still in the 90s.
News flash, giving your engine a fancy environmentally friendly name, and having an englishman narrate your videos does not make it innovative.
Don't forget $1500/year for Uranus.......I mean Urea.
See how this video is from Ford Europe? That’s probably why it’s an English guy narrating it.
Mark, wow you're a dipshit. First there's nothing better about a belt except profit. And it's Found On Road Dead. Ford isn't spelled Fodr.
Mark H FODR??
Mason Clark belt is way better than chain
Wish they would have diesel compact cars here in the United States.
Oil pumps should NEVER be a maintenance item.
The new design is in the shop getting repairs not driving down the road. And rubber bands to run the pump and timing sound wonderful. So every 30 k miles its getting new belts. And on the back of a tow truck when they stretch
This looks like a nightmare to work on. Oh boy
Very high innovation & optimal engineering technology. I like it. 👍🏻
just in time for the Focus MK4 platform release....
Mogsy28uk i
Mogsy28uk iii
its for the commercial vehicle platform. transit and ranger in Europe
Belt in oil is just looking for an early failure.
My previous Mk4 Mondeo 1.8 nearly had a snapped belt.
I replaced it at 90k which was well below the recommended interval.
The belt was cracked between every tooth .
The correct ford oil had been used since new.
A belt driven oil pump? Can you say maintenance nightmare?
why? change the belt when its due, no problem!
Oh yes, the built in point of failure belt driven oil pump. Great.
Singer is looking for a new power plant for its next gen sowing machines....
Dangling Death why singer makes seeders?
Thanks for the presentation. I specifically went on to buy the 1.5tdci instead of the ecoblue as the ecoblue seams like a maintenance nightmare.
Another genius at FORD , wet belts no thanks
Had one in a ford transit custom, never had an issue and never a breakdown, has over 150,000 miles on the clock. It was serviced at the intervals stated by ford. I cannot see any issues and tbh most engines are throw away now, labour rates just don't lend well to rebuilding.
how can a belt driven oil pump get an award
With stellar Ford reliability!
So how do we make this bad boy roll some serious coal
Max Crypto hahahahahaha
yessssssssss
This is one of the best videos describing the new technology on new generation IC engines. Although I would like if you could have expanded on the turbocharger selection and pressures involved used to downsize this engine from 2.2 to 2.0ltr.
Anyway, great video, much better than Ford US and a guy talking rubbish about a 7.6 liter engine
I see Ford has learned nothing from it's past mistakes with the 6.0L. It almost started leaking oil as I was watching the video. Good for them however designing a new combustion engine especially a diesel. Diesels are the most efficient engines available, if you don't modify them. Though electric may work for some people, I for one will never buy a hybrid as long a conventional vehicles are available because diesels get better fuel mileage better performance, have lower maintainence costs and are cheeper. Electric cars will never replace combustion until they cost the same, can go 700 miles on a charge, can be recharged in 6 minutes, and have charging stations at every gas station including the mom and pop ones in the middle of Wyoming. Electric cars have a very limited market, don't forget they pollute the environment as well just somewhere else. We should be looking at cradle to grave emissions. Meaning every kind of emissions not just air pollution.
International made the 6.0 as well as the 7.3 and 6.4
That is simply not true. Untreated diesel (no fuel additives), exhaust contains carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, and particulates as well heavy metals and H2O and O2. DEF treated diesel exhaust also contains ammonia. Add fuel additives and now you get highly toxic dioxins and furans.
Starting in 2010 Ford built all there diesels in house. International cut ties with Ford because Ford didn't want to pay fair market price for thier engines. It took a judge to order Ford to pay.
Idk because last time I checked injectors, injection pumps and etc aren't cheap. Plus the 3 gallon plus oil changes aren't cheaper than gas especially fuel. But that's why I love them.
William Snyder Ford also lost their rump on warranty claims on the 6.0 Power Stroke. From what I understand, Ford sued Navistar for warranty money. Navistar's saving grace was bigger trucks didn't have nearly the problems, partially because the emissions requirements are different between class 2&3 trucks and class 4 and up. I read something like 60% of the 6.0's had warranty claims.
They use that set up in the 3liter diesel 1500 no issues yet . But they don't have the problems that dodge had with sprockets and rods. Belts are tough and quieter.
Belt for oil pump? Well that explains Fix Or Repair Daily
1.What are service intervals on this engine?
2.Does it performs active dpf regen, when revs are up a bit and engine noise changes, motor fan on?
so much innovation :) so much future problems :) maintenance free belt ... driving the oil pump... i see a lot of seized engines. but hey... it's eco :)
1994dodgeram Most eco thing you can do is that it won't start at all...
Everyone seems to be complaining about the same things they complained about when EFI first hit the market. Too complex, too many thing to break, they don't make them like they used to. Thank God they don't make them like they used too! I don't like getting 10mpg, changing spark plugs every 30,000 miles and oil every 3,000!
......absolutely horrible design. all the way thru.....diesels are great, just not this backwards design
It is, ripping those belts like there is no tomorrow!
ANOTHER TIMING BELT ENGINE P.O.S.! Come on Ford, make a real diesel again!please!
Basically those particles have been broken up so much that it’ll now get through your skin into your blood lol
Give it some time, there will be an EGR delete kit for this engien
lmao as soon as I heard "maintenance free" I just heard "problems"
Consider using a plasma to vaporize fuel before ignition ... same idea should work for any IC-engine.
Tom Mallard that sounds expensive
Carl and ginger
needed a new motor after about 5400 km
my first car in 25 years with motor problem
of course, ford so changed my life
what motor version? YMF6 or YNF6?
Hey ford! - if you re-made a 51 ford f100 (just like it was manufactured back then) I'd be interested.
Ford's remarkable engine. UK Motorhome owner's have just this week been given a free upgrade to 5 years parts and labour warranty for the for the new transit as a good will gesture for the trouble they have experienced with the new 2.0 ltr diesel.
never heard of that yet. any links?
Ford has really lost there way
Always last to the party
I am the biggest ford fan boy
And sorry to say that ford are not building the cars I want anymore
They talk about one ford
And still not bringing any good cars to U.K.
Next, a 1.0 Liter powerstroke to go in all F250 Super duty trucks with fords new CVT transmission for great fuel economy and power output!
Good luck cleaning that EGR system...
I love how the two belt driven wheels about 30 seconds in doesn't rotate the same way xD
The animator must've thought of cogs overlapping each other while animating this
Belt belt why always belt? Cost reduction for time bomb, not saying chain is the best but at last it can handle more force.
Sustainability is first and foremost three things, when it comes to products, namely products need to be 1) Durable 2) Repairable and rebuildable 3) Recyclable. So, a diesel engine needs to last 500k (km), after which it's repaired for the next 500k, after which it's rebuilt. Repeat this cycle for 3-4 times after which it's time to recycle. Thank you, sir. Well... actually diesel engine should last at least 1 million km without major repairs. The same goes for transmission.
Now all Ford needs to do is pair these new ecoblue engines with cars before all countries BAN diesels , come on Ford, why so LATE
I mean countries like India,Australia etc are waiting for a smart Fiesta ,Ecosport,Focus, Kuga/Escape, Edge etc with these engines
And what about pairing the new 9 speed Automatic with diesel engines?
Ponygt 662 well said
Ponygt 662 diesel won't be banned , don't believe the politicians.
Trains and lorries have an infrastructure based on diesel engines. There is no technology available to replace diesel in heavy haulage.
There is already tech available making diesel cleaner than petrol for emissions.
There is always an underlying financial basis. Governments need taxes and no better way than taxing diesel. If people move to petrol they get more tax anyway as they are not as efficient so you buy more fuel.
Electric or hybrid just isn't there yet.
Diesel can never be as clean as petrol , petrols emit far less NOx than diesels, COx true diesels can go as low or lower than gas engines, but not NOx which is also a major pollutant
I am not saying diesel for trucks will be eliminated, but for everyday cars, they might start disappearing in another 5 years time
Does the pollution control system work all the time, or just when the steering wheel is centered?
steering wheel? Are Yu MAD, there is no relation b/w steering wheel and pollution
Thank you very much. This lesson is been very good. (In Istanbul )
I'll keep my tree killing 7.3l thanks.
Daniel Erb I just wrote the same thing bud. Well almost but yes 7.3 bulit proof no stupid emissions
It does quite the opposite of kill trees. It actually gives them CO2 which they need to survive.
Gravemind my man you are a genius
Gravemind you are right, but a little too much
Saw a p-7100 injection pump for the 7.3.. Was drooling
I just cant get over those pulleys driving opposite directions on the same belt
Reliability!? ford's diesel engines are particularly well known in europe for their unreliability
How does the EGR system work with the turbo? Are they feeding exhaust gas on the input side of the turbo compressor? That seems like a good way to ruin turbochargers.