PLANTS Vs. ZOMBIES Towers In Bloons TD 6!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- PLANTS Vs. ZOMBIES Towers In BTD6 / Bloons TD 6! This mod brings in 10 0-0-0 plant towers from another very popular tower defense game and I'm here to check it out! Also featuring the good old roof map.
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Funny how Torchwood gives Camo, as that role would fit Plantern a lot more while Torchwood can be used to give pierce, dmg or Lead popping
i feel like damage because magnet shroom would give lead popping
I mean they're specialized against a single bloon
it did buff them, it gave amd buffs
@@cow4 it didn’t have the same effects as AMD, only the same icon
@@NeoV imagine if magnet shroom just periodically ripped apart lead bloons in it's radius
it could even deal heavy damage to ddts (if granted camo detection)
Everything is actually pretty accurate... except for Torchwood. Torchwood in PvZ buffs peas that pass through it, making them fire peas. I feel like torchwood should give LEAD popping power instead of camo; not only does it make sense with the AMD, but it also fits its original use. It'll also be cool if it buffed the damage of pea-based plants in its range but I understand if that's hard to implement.
I think it should also remove purple popping power if its on fire
Torchwood also clears the fog slightly in fog levels. Then it makes a little more sense for it to give camo popping power.
It’s not entirely inaccurate as torchwood does act as a very small light source in fog levels, though ofc plantern would be better
@@m0n5a80 why not plantern then?
make all the pea related towers primary and give torchwood Primary Training or Primary Expertise which you can tweak the stats for, shouldn't be too diffiult
ISAB trying to play realistic PvZ by placing the plants in the grids. Not realising you need flower pots to plant on the roof.
So close yet so far
also the fact that the enemies are coming out of the chimney where as the zombies in pvz come from the right side of the roof
@@EeveeRealSenpai THEY’RE ALREADY IN THE HOUSE
THEY WON
@@unaverageavocado159 balon
@@EeveeRealSenpai Dave resorted to monkeys after the plants failed him
The problem here is that BTD is full of low-hp, fast enemy, while PvZ is full of high-hp, slow enemy. So when you adapt PvZ plants into BTD, there's gonna be some incompatibility.
Makes me want to see zombies as the Bloons.
I actully kinda agree about that
Oh lok its the funni altroz dev
@@miimiiandco maybe a collaboration event, imagine
yeah, exactly.
If I had to take a guess, I'd say the glue from the Kernel-Pult probably isn't applying to extra layers of bloon. So for everything that wasn't Lead, or Ceramic in later rounds, the Kernel was glue-ing the bloon and then instantly popping the glued layer, removing the glue.
……
that was exactly what i was thinking of
the kernel pult slows bloons by popping them down to a lower layer, which is slower
@@armansagmanligil1144 lol
@@armansagmanligil1144 pink bloons
I would honestly love to see a PvZ playthrough from ISAB, I think it's close enough to bloons when it comes to genre and fanbase that it wouldn't be too dramatic of a shift for his content and it'd be cool to see a game he's less experienced with
Same, I really want to see that
Problem is that pvz is incredibly easy. I feel like he'd get bored way too quickly.
@@noah9942. yeah, but with zero experience any game can be a little harder
PvZ+ or PvZ2 Eclipse are muchhhhhhhhhhhhhh harder
@@meisnewperson eclipse is good
+ on the other hand is just bullshit artificial difficulty with a lot of rng
I do like the “slow but powerful” tower type wish we had that in game, also a farm that pays off super fast but makes very low income is cool
Sniper : *Am i a joke to you*
@@Demomain- I think the slow he meant is from cob cannon which takes 15 seconds to reload, sniper is faster
idk tho lol
Biggest one?
@@Demomain- that is a support…
@@00GlueGunner i think they mean actual damage not normal one shots
"High-damage corn" well that couldn't be farther from the truth, lol.
heh
18:17 Nice 2-0-2 Cactus
The insanely high prices without upgrades would make the discount village incredibly powerful oh these guys. I wonder if that can be used to great effect on some harder maps, if there is ever a part 2.
Actually I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't do anything cause discount village only works on upgrades, right?
Steve Chung it does work on base cost. You need the full cost to be able to place, but village discount can make the price less for the base towers
@@maxpimble3016 isn't that only on battles 2 or am i forgwtting stuff?
id say in terms of adapting things to bloons this did a pretty good job, but pvz has an upgrade system of its own and i think it wouldve been cooler to have things like upgrading a peashooter to a gatling pea, a sunflower to a double sunflower, etc.
Repeater to gatling pea is the actual upgrade progression
Yeah no idea why they didn’t
they could have done something like this:
peashooter 000
100 = ice pea
010 = repeater
020 = gatling pea
001 = threepeater
and they could make it so you only can get one crosspath.
also for lobbing plants:
000 = cabage pult
100 = kernel pult
200 = cob cannon
010 = melon pult
020 = winter melon
and then maybe a few other stand alone towers that are more miscellaneous like cactus torchwood and wallnut
I would think we should move the threepeater to 020 and save 001 for fire peashooter since that’s a thing
@@nobodydair_754 only in pvz2 though, and all the other towers in this mod are pvz1
Shouldn’t Torchwood give towers lead popping instead of camo?
It does
description is an error apparently, it gives AMD
I think the torchwood was actually meant to say lead popping power, which is why it gave AMD, since in PvZ it basically sets projectiles that pass through it on fire. That's probably why when you spammed torchwoods you still died to camo early on
WOOO BABY THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR
Comment seems like a moist penguin
THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT. WOOO
As an avid PvZ player back in the day, I can still remember what all the plants where and their functions, so I'll lay them here.
Peashooter - Just your average, everyday tower, shoots once every now and then. No other explanation needed.
Repeater - Actually fires two peas per interval rather than at twice the speed, but either way. But the peas themselves don't deal extra damage.
Threepeater - Intended to cover the lanes above and below it, so having it be a x3x Dart Monkey was a good choice, though again, the peas dealt the same damage.
Gatling Pea - Shoots four peas per interval, but as usual, no damage change.
Sunflower - Generated sun in PvZ, which was the game's money for buying and placing plants. Makes sense here.
Cactus - In PvZ, it was intended to grow and shoot zombies that were riding balloons out of the air. Nothing else to say other than in BTD6, it's truly fulfilling its purpose.
Torchwood - Not at all accurate here. In PvZ, it was a stationary plant that goes in front of other plants. Any peas from any peashooter type would be lit aflame and deal extra damage (this was the only way to buff plants' damage). Torchwood here giving camo and not even passively like a village is just totally wrong.
Kernel-Pult - In PvZ, would launch a corn kernel that dealt lower than normal damage, but may sometimes launch a stick of butter that also stop the hit zombie in its tracks. Doesn't carry over to BTD6 that well, because I think as soon as the Bloon gets "glued", it's also popped, thereby negating the "glue".
Chomper - It's so slow because in PvZ, it would eat an entire zombie whole, but it would need to chew its food properly before it was ready to chomp another. It was also only able to eat zombies directly in front of it.
Cob Cannon - This one was unique, as in PvZ, it was more like an ability. It couldn't attack on its own. Instead, you just click on it and then click another location to target, and watch as a cob of corn flew into the air only to come down and blow up the zombies in that area. In BTD6, it honestly should've granted a First Strike ability, with the tower itself not doing anything at all.
Overall, I'd say this mod is rather accurate to PvZ, but I feel like it could be more accurate, and also utilize BTD6's mechanics more. (I'm not fond of the idea of most of the towers being like Darting Gunners)
Just place a Blover so as to insta kill every Bloon in the scream here just like the Balloon Zombie
oh yeah
basically the btd4 satalite ability
Lol
blover could just be like a useable that summons a big tornado
Doom shroom and hypno shroom would be a nice addition, Doom shroom being like 1 time use tsar bomba , and hypno shroom works like necromancer
I think hypno shroom, if coding wasnt hard, could be a tower you place on track that acts like road spikes that summon necromancer bloons.
The Cob Cannon is a Kernel-Pult paragon.
oh my god i was literally telling someone about how cool i thought it would be if the peashooter was in btd as a crossover tower like 3 days ago- this is so neat to see!
edit: obviously it would be cool if the actual crossover tower had proper upgrades, like upgrading to snow pea, threepeater, or gattling peashooter
BRUH WHY DO THE BLOONS COME FROM THE LEFT SIDE, THATS WHERE THE PLANTS SHOULD BE😭😭😭😭
Where else would they spawn from? You can't make a map with multiple lanes
@@anonymall you can someone did make a map that was like the origional
@@anonymall you can shorten the background and make them come from right.
I feel like the Chomper was the most acute. In PvZ it sucks because it one shots one zombie then has an extremely long cooldown as it swallows the zombie.
Acute?
Realistically, the hardest to balance plant for the cost would probably be the kernel-pult. Why? In original pvz it shoots butter that completely stops a zombie for like 5 seconds and attacks almost every 3 seconds.
So it's a cheap super glue like tower that can potentially stun a bloon forever and that is op
the balance would be just replacing it with a 1-0-0 glue monkey that does damage on hit and you got a balanced low rng kernel pult
I would really like to see him play through PvZ
the reason why kernel pult didnt work before leads is because it applied 0-0-0 glue, did damage, and therefor removed it. if the order was changed or it was 1-0-0 glue it would work.
edit: i think it uses glue with different stats than the normal glue gunner's glue, because i tested it and it was innacurate
it only did two damage, and 0xx glue has 4 layers of soak by default so i dont think thats quite it
@@turmspitzewerk I just tested a 0-0-0 glue gunner and it had 3 layers of soak. Do you have MK or something that makes it 4?
The bloons getting close to your pea shooter on the first round made me panic, thinking "Oh no, your pea shooter's going to get eaten and then all your defense will be gone" xD
As a former PvZ player, I can confirm that all are accurate except for the Torchwood (and cactus’s high pierce if you only play PvZ1)
Torchwood buffs pea plants by allowing their shots to do more damage and also do splash damage. I think to make it accurate it should give towers more damage and pierce (like berserker brew)
Kernel-pult though. "High-damage corn" despite being the weakest DPS plant in PvZ1.
It does give lead
@@KogasaTatara514 and bad slow when the tower is all stun
I knew this was coming when I saw your other video on this map.🤣
Plants vs zombies was literally my childhood. Pvz mixed with btd6 is like a dream come true!
Age of apes
I still play pvz1
The cob cannon should've had mortar targeting. But it's never that simple as someone who codes.
i feel like if the prices where significantly lower this mod would be a lot better
for the cob cannon 40k to be able to destroy a B.A.D in a few shots isn't too bad, but the threepeater price seems kinda ridiculous, and the pea shooter and repeater are just plain terrible at first lol
Thinking about it, the pvz2 plants would be stupidly op, if peashooter had all its level one stats imported directly into bloons, it would have infinite range, and be able to one shot ceramics (it deals 20 damage at level 1) for 100 dollars (equal to its cost of 100 sun) ( thinking about it more, a cherry bomb could one shot the tier one lych)
Yeah if someone imported full regular stat PVZ2 plants, even at level one, they would be ridiculous
Now think max level cherry, or even Doom Shroom from the original PVZ or Boom Balloon Flower's plant food.
I think the kernel pult is like a glue gunner without the glue soak, it doesn't soak through layers.
I feel like using the other pea towers as paths rather than seperate towers would be more interesting
shame there isn't a melon pult or winter melon, another tower with ice effects would be great.
Funny how mod balance really differs. These early towers suck and you can’t do anything about it, while other mods would have a $200 tower that does 10 damage and 10 pierce.
Not very accurate but the general idea behind what the plants do make sense other than torchwood.
PvZ did have a lategame upgrade system - upgrading Repeaters to Gatling Peas and two Corn-O-Pults into a Cob Cannon. I think this could be really neatly reflected by an 'upgrade tree' - upgrade a base Peashooter to become triple firing, ice version, or just faster firing
I’m honestly really happy to see that PvZ is still an active franchise! I love PvZ to bits
"look at these hypersonic gatling peas, all alc buffed" thats a sentence i never thought i would here
It's been a long time since I played PvZ, but isn't the track backwards? I guess the bloons still end at the chimney, but still. If it were a really faithful remake, it'd be a 5 lane map with bloons traveling from right to left in each roof tile row.
Can anyone confirm if the torchwood ACTUALLY gives camo?
The AMD leads me to believe it'd actually lead popping (which is why isab struggled with camos even with 3 torchwoods)
I can't install mods cause I'm on mobile so someone else has to confirm for me
I know the tower SAYS camo but I dunno
It's actually lead popping power, the desc is wrong
I made this mod and I can confirm that the description is a typo
@@zukoixtheepic3597 you know I felt that this was wrong because I know internet people like to lie but I found that comment and yeah
@@zukoixtheepic3597 ty for the mod nonetheless
14:24 pea brew
I would really like to see more plants! Things that particularly interest me: spikeweed/spikerock , fume/gloom shroom, puff shroom (how cheap should it be, should it still be free?), wall nut (my idea is to stun bloons that hit it until it wears out, instantly destroyed by moabs and bigger)
Shouldve been base towers but paths are better versions
ex: Mid path pea shooter can turn into a fire pea from pvz2
"Cheap, temporary camo detection is interesting" Geraldo: Bruh
the fact this comes out a day after the game’s birthday is perfect
I think cob cannon would be better if it was more faithful to the source. It's essentially a First Strike with no other attack and Mortar targeting, so you can choose when and where to use it.
I respect the fact that despite he’s never really played PvZ he still tries to make it as faithful as he can
"I let this first ceramic me but I'll catch the other ones." -ISAB's famous last words
Those two on the thumbnail giving me memorys
It would've been cool if there were 5 straight tracks and towers could be placed on the track.
So has isab played pvz? Cause I’d love to see a blind play through of it on stream if he hasn’t because that games a classic
18:18 What a nice looking cactus
We never heard him say it… but as time went, more sunflowers appeared 😱
ISAB should really try PvZ eclise, its a mod for PvZ2 that makes it really well balanced and fun, but also fairly difficult
Yeah, I'm stuck on 4-10 right now. I hate those imps.
Oh yeah that mod is great
The Mods was not great anymore ITS just sucks now, ITS unfair and not worth to play, you play the game you think you smart at the game but nope sometime ITS just a dumb luck
@@Jar3xe that's true, there is a lot of dumb luck.
I like the 2-0-2 cactus insta monkey he got
the 2 greatest tower defenses combined
the insta monkey being called cactus is god damn hilarious
5:42 Kernel-pult gets placed. My work here is done
I could so easily see ways to make these have 2 to 3 paths from alternative versions of each from pvz
i remember when isab did this, but unmodded, with wof spam because isab didn't trust pod, also sotf i think
One of the best crossovers I’ve seen in my life
I'd say it's pretty accurate, as I own the game; that map is the final set of levels, where the difficulty of the game in PvZ is at its peak. The zombies come in lanes from the right, and try to get into the chimney. Flower pots are also needed to plant, and honestly, putting that in BTD6 as a buffing tower of some sort would be cool. And also Torchwood is wrong. Other people already stated this.
Oh my bringing my two favorite tower defense games together I really want this mod.
18:17 NK back at it again with the amazing round 100 instas, now we get a fucking cactus
While all the towers do seem pretty accurate (I only know about 6/10 of them), they don’t really seem fitting for the game. Money-wise, they’re pretty much all over priced and not very good late game. That being said, it’s a good effort for something that you can’t upgrade.
Torchwood in pvz doubles the dmg of any pea shooting plant in its radius (or in pvz, its lane) so it should give double damage and pierce
torchwood should give nearby towers lead popping power and make it so that when a projectile lands it aplies fire to bloons.
Based on the fact that you placed the plant on the wrong side of the map, id agree with your inexperience
9:28 yeah, interesting concept... wish it was in the game like for, i dont know, maybe a hero with a mustache that sells you stuff.
Gotta love that 2-0-2 "Cactus"
Inaccuracies:
Torchwood normally grants extra damage and aoe
Imagine doom shroom just being a single buffed tsar bomba ability
I would love to see you play the original PVZ since it's the game that really solidified the tower defense genre. It's also cheap and very casual.
Even tho the spike pile is technically at the end I like to think its at the start and acts like the rake from pvz.
Muncher being pathetic and Cobcannon being OP? Yup, that's an accurate mod
the kernal glue thing, im pretty sure its like a single layer gloo like the 000 glue gunner, it goes away after a pop which bugged it so that it registered to glue first, then the damage which made the glue go away making it have no use unless it didnt pop the layer for examples such as moabs and cerams
it's be pretty cool to see a map such as the pool map making it so you can only place water plants in it or use a lily pad to place land plants on it, love the idea and i hope they expand on it.
It's funny how some zombie fighting plants would be very bad against a bunch of balloons and blimps whilst some bloon popping monkeys would work wonderfully against the Zombies
I know Im late as hell but these are changes I’d make,
1. Sunflower isnt based on every round but on the same timing as the PvZ sunflower and generates cash a few times a round, equivalent to the PvZ sunflower too so that every round at least 1 peashooter could be placed(may be unbalanced in the game of BTD6 though but since the plants cannot be upgraded the same way it wouldnt be as good to spam rather than saving for the better plants)
2. Every plant is proportional in cost to PvZ and adjusted to bloons standards.
3. Torchwood is lead popping power similar to red hot rangs as it should also increase damage of affected towers.
4. Corn has a chance to stun with “butter” similar to the chance of downdraft but functioning more like super glue(?) on the glue gunner.
5. I dont remember cactus having seeking spines in PvZ1 but if they havent updated/remade this mod yet they should add homing to the cactus and increase damage to “flying” enemies so maybe 2 pierce instead of 4 and higher MOAB damage.
This is the crossover I wanted to see for the longest time
As a pvz player. I can tell the plants are still the same as it is. Except a few. Torchwood could have been better if he was a Lead popper or extra damage, because his main purpose is to give damage boost to pea plants. If its gonna be Camo detection, I'd say Plantern. The rest are pretty much different as well.
Also ISAB, here are the comparison for the plants on the game itself and on the BTD6 Mod:
Sunflower
PVZ: Gives additional Sun
BTD6 Mod: Same function, except the currency is just changed to the in game money of BTD6.
Peashooter
PVZ: Shoots a pea
BTD6 Mod: Still the same
Repeater
PVZ: Shoots 2 peas
BTD6 Mod: Shoots faster and deals more damage than Peashooter. (Shoots 1 pea tho)
Kernel Pult
PVZ: Hurls light damage kernel and sometimes hurls butter that can stun.
BTD6 MOD: Almost the same, the damage is the only one that is changed.
Threepeater
PVZ: Shoots 3 peas at 3 different lanes.
BTD6 Mod: Almost hss the same logic
Chomper
PVZ: Devours a entire zombie near him, but is vunerable while chewing. (Average 45 seconds time of chewing).
BTD6 Mod: Most likely the same.
Torchwood
PVZ: Boosts Damage of peas that passes through him.
BTD6: Gives Camo detection.
Cactus
PVZ: Shoots a projectile and can pop Balloon Zombies.
BTD6 Literally just PVZ 2 Logic, in which her projectile pierces.
Cob Cannon
PVZ: Shoots a cob that deals high damage. Takes time to reload.
BTD6 Mod: Still the same broken plant.
Hope this info helps you ISAB. Btw, your videos never gets old.
i would absolutely recommend you play both PvZ and Kingdom Rush - those two along with BTD are probably the three best tower defense games out there
tbh the torch should also double the damage of the peas and add the effect of "burning stuff". that is what it does in PvZ, maybe thats why it felt underpowered.
but its an awesome mod!
I love that the clouds are brains!
'Not too experienced with PvZ.'
In another world that's Protoss Vs. Zerg.
The cob cannons are accurate. The gatling peas are just 4 peashooters so uh not quite fitting but still good for the bloons adaption
I would have liked to know the chomper's damage ... He may have dealt most of the Bad's layer
18:16 my guy just got a 2-0-2 catcus
Somehow this feels like a weird fever dream for me
"As you can see they are all 0-0-0" LUL
Hey Isab you should totally try out PvZ, its really fun maybe stream it
i would love you strat a PVZ series maybe play the PVZ2 ? its so much fun man
now we need an ISAB PVZ series. it is required
Me: Mom can we play Plants Vs Zombies?
Mom: We have Plants Vs Zombies at Home
Plants vs Zombies at home:
12:09 I've definitely asked for this
It would be amazing if Bloons and PvZ did a crossover.I’m calling it right now Bloons is gonna have a cross over with pvz in the future
18:30 these pvz bloon tower remakes are nothin like the original pvz plant
lol
In the first game, the Cactus was one of 2 plants capable of popping balloon zombies, which use balloons to float over most projectiles and defenses. In the second game, the Cactus has a piercing attack. So it's pretty accurate. Would love to watch a playthrough of PvZ 1 or 2 btw.
There were more than 2. Blover and cactus were the main things to handle it, but cattail, cherry bomb, doom shroom, and possible jalapeno could damage them too.
It would’ve been perfect if this was done with a mod that added Monkeys vs Bloons from BTD4, which is a recreation of the Pool from PvZ.