Recognizing Combos - GM Yasser Seirawan - 2013.06.27

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  • Chess Grandmaster Yasser Seirawan explores checkmating combinations, combinations designed to win material, and the more abstract idea of strategic combinations. Lecture courtesy of the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis.

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  • @lagerbaer
    @lagerbaer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    A rook in the corner isn't bad. According to Ben Feingold it's great because that way, when you resign, your rook is already set up for the next game :D

  • @WonderTechie
    @WonderTechie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Yasser, one of the nicest guy we can find in the chess world.. Always like the way he teaches to the students with a great smile :)

    • @Cruz0e
      @Cruz0e 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      you can edit your post.. you can take out the word 'chess' from your first phrase:-)

    • @briancolyer4947
      @briancolyer4947 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s true. Totally humble guy. He’s the Bob Ross of the chess world.

  • @RCmaniac1231
    @RCmaniac1231 7 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    the way he talks really kept my attention. Very mellow voice

  • @luisantoniojachozambrano7605
    @luisantoniojachozambrano7605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This guy makes me feel everything is all right.

  • @kurtozan251
    @kurtozan251 8 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Yasser is to chess as Bob Ross is to painting.

    • @jonathanshore5768
      @jonathanshore5768 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No he's the Mr. Rogers

    • @chesspro22k64
      @chesspro22k64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jonathan Shore yes I was tryimg to remember who he reminded me of. That soft spoken painter guy.!!

    • @kkalski
      @kkalski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      We're just going to put a happy little queen over here.

    • @Bleh67420
      @Bleh67420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Accurate

    • @Holdino_
      @Holdino_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how he communicates.

  • @koenpalstermans9180
    @koenpalstermans9180 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Fantastic lecture. Yasser Seirawan knows how to entertain and teach at the same time. That's in my opinion the way to keep everybody's attention.

  • @nanowarrior01
    @nanowarrior01 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you Chess Club and Scholastic center of Saint Louis for sharing such wisdom.

  • @robmckennie4203
    @robmckennie4203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yasser has that look some people have, where you don't think they could stop smiling if they wanted to. Seems like such a cheerful guy

  • @SaleemRanaAuthor
    @SaleemRanaAuthor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the best chess teachers I've ever come across.

  • @masterchief699
    @masterchief699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy's enthusiasm is infectious. This is a teacher

  • @dkpandey1996
    @dkpandey1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He is probably the best chess teacher today. Very instructive, useful video.

  • @jdupuis1378
    @jdupuis1378 10 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Hi Yasser, you're not only GM but I believe great communicator. ( GC).
    Thx for these videos.

    • @CGoody564
      @CGoody564 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jean Dupuis GMoC: Grand Master of Communication.

  • @RareCargo
    @RareCargo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a fellow Seattle chess player I thank you for sharing with us your great insight and knowledge of chess

  • @joshh6376
    @joshh6376 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Good topic. Did Bob Ross help prepare you for this lecture. I felt like you might take away the pawn on d4 and replace it with a tree maybe with some snow covering it.

    • @CGoody564
      @CGoody564 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Josh H the d4 pawn is just a happy little bird, making his way across to migrate for the winter... Or is being sacrificed with no mercy.

    • @lior617
      @lior617 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMAO

  • @dmaster20ify
    @dmaster20ify 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And I love how you brought combinations under three broad headings. Now we can now what to look out for when calculating. When the king is unsafe you should watch out for checkmating combinations for example.
    This will serve as a bright sign indicating what combination puzzle you are solving

  • @damleman
    @damleman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great lecture! Never before have I seen the strategic principles of chess explained so well.

    • @MrCamel254
      @MrCamel254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually started my journey into chess with his books. They are absolutely fantastic. Really transport his charisma as well as his deep understanding of the game.

  • @KF1
    @KF1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Entertaining lecture. I like how in the end it's left to wonder.

  • @chessenginefight9321
    @chessenginefight9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "A rook that's sitting in the corner, completely unemployed, doing nothing." I'm exactly like that rook.

  • @BOCIL_KEHIDUPAN_WINDAH
    @BOCIL_KEHIDUPAN_WINDAH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i still dont believe, this lecture was shared free, Thank you!

  • @Supernovchik
    @Supernovchik 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IT IS SOOOOOO HELPFUL! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS!

  • @Enpassantful
    @Enpassantful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The title of the lesson is recognising combos and it immediately goes off topic to talk about strategy?

  • @mrpawrihawri9972
    @mrpawrihawri9972 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    05:23 actually got me cracked. LEL!

    • @Anon_581
      @Anon_581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me, it was 10:04; the way he says it so calmly/casually makes it even better!

  • @PhillipRajcany
    @PhillipRajcany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best advice I garnered from watching this- "Don't grab a pawn [when you are behind in development]".

  • @solfeinberg437
    @solfeinberg437 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never wanted to study chess to the point where I'm familiar with various openings - an in insufferable flaw in my game I know, but I haven't had that much interest - but this is pretty groovy - he makes the various possibilities very logical to evaluate. I actually like looking at puzzle books.

  • @ZiggyZugzwang
    @ZiggyZugzwang 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's more than I could have asked for, my friend. Thanks for sharing that knowledge with me!

  • @superomelet2897
    @superomelet2897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and I'm glad I watched it, but it's only tangentially about spotting combos.

  • @daymongray3516
    @daymongray3516 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:45 a simple analysis of opening strategies with pawns. Thoughtfully said.

  • @bigstar3000
    @bigstar3000 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson Mr.Yasser and thanks

  • @cenntraru
    @cenntraru 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm confused about the title for this video. I don't understand how the skill in recognizing combos patterns is related to this dry berlin-like opening, but the main theme about comparing Berlin as the best defense against 1.e4 and this defense against 1.d4 is very interesting. In my club-level games though, white never plays 2.c4 in this position, it's 2.e4 or 2.Bg4 or 2.Bg5 so I have to switch into Pirc or something Indian-ish.

    • @CGoody564
      @CGoody564 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Квант-Сёрфинг the particular opening is simply an example. The position itself doesn't inherently involve strategic combinations unless you choose to play them, which can be done in almost any opening depending on the particular position. This particular position doesn't have to do with strategic combos on its own, however I could say that about absolutely any opening whatsoever.
      Your statement would technically be true about any opening whatsoever, but it's extremely disingenuous.
      The class isn't spotting strategic combos in the berlin defense; it is spotting strategic combos in general, and this just happens to be the example position he used to demonstrate said idea.

  • @mattbell5602
    @mattbell5602 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great...Yasser is the man!

  • @IsaacPiera
    @IsaacPiera 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 22:16, why does white take the bishop instead of forking the king and rook? Sure the black rook is not yet playing and the bishop might be a more active target, but we are talking about taking a bishop against taking a pawn + rook, it's a substantial material difference

  • @videostar75
    @videostar75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did this guy get so happy?

  • @lukastux3024
    @lukastux3024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a fantastic strategy lecture, but I don't see at all how the title of the video is related to Yassers lecture. It seems to be about strategy and queenless middlegames where I Black lost the right to castle. The video should be called "(When) Should you trade Queens in the opening?"

  • @clancybond1543
    @clancybond1543 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is this guy played by jeff goldblum?

  • @brandonbreaker7390
    @brandonbreaker7390 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how do i get in the class

  • @juanricardogarciagarcia8106
    @juanricardogarciagarcia8106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelente exposición muy didactica, valorando iniciativa y planes de ataque, gracias dé Cd Juárez Chihuahua México

  • @starbuck26
    @starbuck26 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if GM Seraiwan could present a game where Queens were traded and black did not lose the right to castle. It would go a long way in determining the answer to the question at the end of the lecture.

  • @Pipiopy
    @Pipiopy 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the last question. Is it good to trade queens for who or with what purpose. Besides good or not, there're also alternatives.

  • @qablo81
    @qablo81 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you could play after Be6, f4 anyway. And if he capture your c4 pawn, just play Nf3, and I think you have compensation. If he goes after f4, Nd7, I think Nf3 again should be OK. Another idea is simple b3 after Be6

  • @ZiggyZugzwang
    @ZiggyZugzwang 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mr Yasser Seirawan.I really like your idea with f4, but what happens when black plays say Be6.Thats the most common move in the Mega database(only played 15 times tho).Would you continue with Nf3 then?Now what if Black answers Nd7.I don't really see how we achieve our idea.Do you? ;)
    In one of my otb games we reached a similar position but m opponent played Be6 before he played c6.So he attacked my c4 pawn and I continued with e4.Is it possible to play f4 instead?(whats the follow up)TYVM!

  • @glenhoffman4035
    @glenhoffman4035 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If White replies with 3. d5 followed by 3. . . f5, is castling queenside (for Black) a good idea followed by a kingside pawn storm?

  • @ilusoriob
    @ilusoriob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent class. Thank you.

  • @brucewayne2184
    @brucewayne2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So when is it good to trade queens then?

  • @lolitoeik
    @lolitoeik 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since a couple of months have passed without any answer to my question, I'll ask again: What happened around 24 minutes into the video when suddenly a completely different game is being analyzed?Great, fantastic lecture up until this point.

    • @0717570580
      @0717570580 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gm Yasser is one of the best of both worlds lecture plus player

    • @vortexkd
      @vortexkd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The f4 pawn magically switched to an e4 pawn - I imagine the lesson was cut?

  • @lolitoeik
    @lolitoeik 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lecture as always from GM Seirawan but he should have someone running the computer for him so that he didn't have to bother with that kind of technical stuff. Question: what happened around 24 minutes into the video when suddenly a completely different game is being analyzed?

  • @maxsamuel1253
    @maxsamuel1253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Open files are magnets for Rooks"

  • @imchessman6107
    @imchessman6107 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love all the slc content on yt but you guys gotta chill on the ads, its every 3 mins or so -.-

  • @redwagon4632
    @redwagon4632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hilarious. "...since none of you play chess..."-3 times in 12 minutes. Smiling all the way.

  • @suntzu3541
    @suntzu3541 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    These lectures are brilliant. Love this channel!

  • @marks4178
    @marks4178 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m an amateur rated 760 rapid chess. 700 in blitz. I play D4 with white and it’s nice to know now that C4 is possible move 2. Thanks Yasser

  • @sunilbhattad.8917
    @sunilbhattad.8917 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like yasser seirawans teaching

  • @sunnymaneg
    @sunnymaneg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    great as usual ... thx STL

  • @samuelrosenbalm
    @samuelrosenbalm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you're up material but without an attack, when your opponent is attacking, or when you have a spatial disadvantage. There are always exceptions based on the peculiarities of the position, but generally speaking, that is when I would suggest trading queens, as per the last question posed in the video.

    • @lepredator189
      @lepredator189 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suggest smiling as he did, in answer to that question. iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.

  • @nphalnikar9
    @nphalnikar9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yaseer is N'Golo Kante of Chess :)

  • @cyrusvanbeethoven8799
    @cyrusvanbeethoven8799 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    PUNISH BLACK FOR HIS SINSSSSSSSSS!!

  • @Guitare_picking
    @Guitare_picking 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is so awesome !

  • @halimhandoko3374
    @halimhandoko3374 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love yasser, good teacher

  • @cyrusvanbeethoven8799
    @cyrusvanbeethoven8799 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yasser, I love the the video, thank you. I'm lost for words; during the build up of this video, you leave us with the question "When is it good to trade queens" Followed by your priceless smile... And I think to myself, "Pfff well that's what I was hoping you'd conclude, or give closure on." - I'm extremely ameture in chess, very new to playing with players on Websites etc, so there is heavy competition. I know my theory department lacks completely. Would it be so detrimental after the initial trading of pawns to just develop your bishop in front of the queen? (on the premise that you wanted to keep the queens and not trade, I don't know which IDEA is better, keeping or trading, and for whom it's better to keep or trade. I was hoping you'd get to that!!!) Sadly, the more I learn about chess.... The more I realise I don't know much. Great game, love it.

    • @simonenoli4418
      @simonenoli4418 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in openings usually who trades queens has an edge if kings arent castled. usually you wanna trade queens whenever your opponent has a strong attack or you are up material. there are exception of course but mainly it is like so. in the berlin endgame though black can equalize with careful play thanks to its development lead and the fact that it is difficult to be checkmated in the center without queens on. so it is somewhat compensated in doing so.

  • @tinytim8173
    @tinytim8173 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I play 1d4 after d6 I always play Bf4 but Yasser said there's only 3 moves and that move wasn't one of them so can someone explain why Bf4 doesn't work against e6?

    • @Ancient_Road
      @Ancient_Road 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the move d6 black is set up perfectly for an e5 thrust on the third move after playing 2..Nd7

    • @karanvirsingh2830
      @karanvirsingh2830 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      U lose the tempo

    • @dominusdone5023
      @dominusdone5023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You give black some iniative when you place your bishop there. So a pawn push comes with tempo

  • @LordDeuce-ul7my
    @LordDeuce-ul7my 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yasser the goat

  • @matteovrizzi
    @matteovrizzi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yasser is the best!

  • @kelvintakyi1862
    @kelvintakyi1862 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Am 1800 in just 4 months cos of u yasser

  • @TheBebelehaut
    @TheBebelehaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Yasser, We never knew ye!

  • @ghotrix
    @ghotrix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    isn't it massivly cut?

  • @p3tr0114
    @p3tr0114 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1:30 Is it really a 2nd type of combination or is it a "little checkmate?"
    After all, winning material has the goal of checkmating.

  • @mathiasespindola843
    @mathiasespindola843 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A42 English Rat !? What a name for an Opening!

  • @Miticuss
    @Miticuss 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did anybody know, what this Yasser want to tell?

  • @smwg4187
    @smwg4187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This audience had the average USCF of 900.

  • @sarahdubois2386
    @sarahdubois2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jerry Sienfeld's long lost cousin teaching chess.

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not 2.Bf4 as a 4th option?

    • @Ancient_Road
      @Ancient_Road 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because of 2..Nd7 3..e5, the pawn on d6 is supporting the eventuality of e5 putting pressure on f4 square forcing an exchange or a loss of tempo

    • @edmis90
      @edmis90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ancient_Road
      1.d4 d6 2.Bf4 Nd7 - Stockfish evaluates as +0.6 at depth 24.
      1.d4 d6 2.Bf4 Nd7 3.Nf3 e5 - Stockfish evaluates as +1 at depth 25.
      Since there is no material loss, that +0.6 and +1 can only come from better space or development.
      Maybe there is something to Nd7 e5 so deep that even stockfish can't see at depth 25. But for all intents and purposes to an average chess player - Bf4 seems fine to me still.
      There has to be a reason why Yasser completely dismissed any dark square bishop move. Wish he gave his reasons for it.

    • @dominusdone5023
      @dominusdone5023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edmis90 stockfish sees lines not evaluation. Its only as good as 0.60 if you are good and can find the best best moves

    • @dominusdone5023
      @dominusdone5023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edmis90 so even though it says 0.6 its hard for humans to play 0.61

  • @aashu1011
    @aashu1011 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    hahahhahahahhaah.. anybody really play chess there?? nt even one guy plays c4 after d4..

    • @bisbarrafa1234
      @bisbarrafa1234 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ashu Dhawale do you know what queen's gambit is?

    • @aashu1011
      @aashu1011 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ofcourse.. brother i am 1689 elo player..

    • @MK-13337
      @MK-13337 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bisbar rafa thats not exactly queen's gambit, and the opening is still undecided, usually until black's next move, might it be 2...c5 or 2...Nf6 or 2...f5 (love me some leningrad dutch). But yeah, he was quoting Yasser when he tried to provoke the audience by throwing in a joke about nobody playing chess^^

    • @aashu1011
      @aashu1011 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Certainly mattii

  • @marshmallow___bars___7578
    @marshmallow___bars___7578 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this Rat defense ❤

  • @TheSludgeMan
    @TheSludgeMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tip: yasser speaks at normal speed if you select 1.25x ;)

  • @tillfaerber4787
    @tillfaerber4787 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:40 Bishop f4 London System

  • @yestintudz5429
    @yestintudz5429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Visit Chessbrah in youtube. he is still active!

  • @Bibabumm
    @Bibabumm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice guy indeed and therefore a good teacher for kids.
    I really would like to stay positive here, but i would like to encourage the sir to not come up with his own terms of "combinations", if he is not able to differ betwen terms like strat and tac.
    Also the amount of knowledge he is trying to transfer in a ~40min vod is just "too weak, too slow"

  • @grahamyodude
    @grahamyodude 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was one of the first strategies I invented as a little kid when I was playing against my dad! Trading queens to deny black castle rights right off the bat!

  • @reggiedavis7850
    @reggiedavis7850 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    But after queen takes queen, black can no longer castle.

  • @jinjiakun4315
    @jinjiakun4315 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if white plays knight b5 in 32:00, how can black defends d6?

    • @tombareket8677
      @tombareket8677 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jin Jiakun your right he cant

    • @jinjiakun4315
      @jinjiakun4315 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Emil Savery When the knight in d6 it protects Pawn in c4 and attacks b7. it's hard to take pawn in c4 because it's protected by bishop and can be protected further by pawn in b2.

  • @chadw7994
    @chadw7994 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video great guy

  • @zacharywoodford8530
    @zacharywoodford8530 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this guy. With that being said, put the video to 1.25x speed for your own sanity lmao

  • @gentrygarage
    @gentrygarage 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26:10 LMFAO

  • @jacobedelman7464
    @jacobedelman7464 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy reminds me of john ritter so bad

  • @GuitarSlinger2112
    @GuitarSlinger2112 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sprang forth from your daddy's loins with a title then?

  • @aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3
    @aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone here play chess? Lmao 5:30

  • @atomicpiano
    @atomicpiano 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The class should be participating...if I were in that class I'd be throwing out all kinds of ideas...all kiiiiinds.

  • @magicaryeh
    @magicaryeh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    combo breaker

  • @valentinonanani629
    @valentinonanani629 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Joker of chess

  • @kevlarunderwear22
    @kevlarunderwear22 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    apparently there are alot of low rated players in the audience.the instructive thing is to point out whats wrong with d5? it is a complete waste of time

  • @Noah-il2wf
    @Noah-il2wf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think someone farted at around 17:20....

  • @andrejstubljar3761
    @andrejstubljar3761 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    1.e3,e5 2.d4,d6 2.dxe5,dxe5 3.Sf3!,Dxd1 4.Kxd1,

  • @alberthoefel4731
    @alberthoefel4731 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The intro is way too long for me :(

  • @rampathak1784
    @rampathak1784 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂chess class

  • @AZCaveMan480
    @AZCaveMan480 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should've stopped asking the class what they would do after 10 minutes. It's obvious they don't know much. I'm a freaking noob and I know at least a few of the answers, or play a few of the ways he asks. Either that, or they're cowards, too afraid to give a straight answer in fear of being wrong.

  • @coreywooten3680
    @coreywooten3680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    he talks too slow for me :/

    • @DayanMarchezi
      @DayanMarchezi ปีที่แล้ว

      You can change the video speed.

  • @heinrich-joachimvonmorgen5998
    @heinrich-joachimvonmorgen5998 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    K

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy can put me asleep right after a great night's sleep. Damn it.

  • @harshankbansal235
    @harshankbansal235 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He really needs to calm down!

  • @misanthrop1958
    @misanthrop1958 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People, who are too nice, like Seirawan, always make me suspicious. What do they do with their anger/frustrations?? Aren`t this the guys, who eventually become serial killers?!

    • @kongyuexuan313
      @kongyuexuan313 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      misanthrop1958 He is just really cool

    • @irresistablejewel
      @irresistablejewel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @misanthrop1958 They win the American chess championship four times... Lol
      Actually it's people like you that makes me suspicious...

  • @blackswordsmanhypertrophy6095
    @blackswordsmanhypertrophy6095 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of bozo suggested d5