Buying a Pinball Machine - 101
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- Are you in the market for a pinball machine, but not sure how to go about doing it? Well, this video will give you some tips on how to go about doing it.
1 - Know your Budget 01:23
2 - Where do you find a game 05:35
3 - What to look out for 06:40
4 - Do your research 08:00
5 - Making an offer 11:55
6 - Scheduling the pickup 18:12
Doing these in real time 20:40
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Great advice! As a 1st time buyer last year (but been playing for 54 years) you helped me out a lot with personal answers to my questions, much appreciated and very cool of you to take the time! Love your channel, keep it up, I've learned a lot ✌
"What's the most you'll pay?" I like that response.
Thank you for making this video.... you have no idea how many times I go on TH-cam (looking for advice on where to buy a pinball machine or arcade machine) and only coming across videos of people showing off there game room and stuff.
Lots of great info here for everyone!!
great video as per usual Cary
I enjoyed the vid and glad to see Cary posting info vids again. I was hoping you mention to new pin buyers to use pinball arcade, zen pinball, or visual pinball (free) as a resource to try out machines virtually before buying them. Playing them on location doesn’t really make sense in a covid world, and was rare to find in the wild certain older DMD titles anyway.
Great vid, my pinball tip is, always bring a friend for moving a pin.
I appreciated the end where you walked through the process verbatim showing us live your thought process
Just recently got into pinball. Big gamer and went with the gottlieb super mario bros. Like your channel and love how u you cover mods and new releases. Keep it up!
Thanks!
Reviewing some of your older videos. Thanks for this one. I am adamant about never signing up with Zuckerberg, so Facebook isn’t an option for me. My loss….But, I have bought 3 through Pinside & had superior experience with 2 sellers & a good experience with one. Nice group of folks. Craig’s list seems to have frequent scammers, in my experience, but also some knowledgeable sellers. Thanks!
Late to the party here, but pricing is definitely an issue depending on where you live. Unfortunately, I live in California & it’s very difficult finding machines slit here & when you do, the prices are high. That being said, before I looked for machines, I first searched for a pinball repairman. I was able to locate one within a hour of my home. He has given me tons of advice. In the end, I purchased a couple of machines from him that had been completely restored. Saving a few hundred bucks by driving 8hrs round trip (Ca is huge) just didn’t add up, especially when I wasn’t guaranteed the condition of the machines. I was able to look and play several examples locally. So, I suggest nobody ever buys a pinball machine without first testing it and looking at it in person.
I was guessing you’d say $2500 right when you started talking about the average price. There are still some great titles in that range.
Another great informative vid! Would love to see your swords of fury! It was my first game about 8 years ago. I miss it. Bought it for 1100 traded it towards a judge dredd. Both are long gone. I wish the guy would sell it back to me for what I traded it at. Haha (1500)
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to share...
Excellent video! You really did a great job; I actually have a family member visiting me later this week, looking to buy a game and everything you mentioned is what I want to tell him (I’ll point him to your channel as well). Perhaps the only other thing that comes to mind is to explain to a potential buyer the major differences between game generations; EM, early SS, DMD, etc...
I wouldn't say that would be needed in this video - maybe another video. There are so many variables that could easily trail off into another dimension of stuff. Kept it simple for this video.
@@CaryHardy agreed. Lots of stuff to consider when picking a game.
I wish that was the prices they were selling for in Australia
Great video; do you have a recent room tour? I'll like to see your collection and hear the story behind your collection
Never done a room tour before. Maybe in the future...
You should man. Seeing room tours keeps me motivated and gives me ideas 💡 on how I'd like mine to look and work from there on.
The old style pinballs can be fun
The pool game
8 ball deluxe or I forget
There’s a few!
Skateboard 🛹 art 🖼 and pinball play fields are my favorite picture 📚
I'm about to purchase a Mary Shelley's Frankenstein pin. Nice condition. 👍 Can't wait to shop it out and install an LED kit. This will be my first working machine. Still need to get Spy Hunter up and running... Replacing the bridge rectifiers.
Theme is good but gameplay is kinda lame tho.
@@pinballlover4981 Wish I had more options, but alas, I'm here in Hawaii.
@@808zhu its not a bad machine, very cool horror theme.
@@pinballlover4981 Pinsiders seem to be fond of it. If I had my druthers, I'd get Theatre of Magic or Medieval Madness.. Or Ghostbusters. I'll work my way up.
@@808zhu I have MM in my collection, it’s great.
Great video, thanks.
Wow, pinballprices … you saved me HUGE w that tip!! 👍🤟
Very informative video! What about maintenance, us there some one who I could call if I need my machine fixed?
Thx
Depends on your area. Facebook groups like "Pinball Enthusiasts" is a great place to request help and find someone in your area.
@@CaryHardy do people sell their pinball machines at the annual TPF?
@@mikefowler7341 yes. Not all, but there are machines for sale.
@@CaryHardy thanks, looking forward to next year…traveling all the way from McKinney Tx! :)
I like this video.... 2 reasons.
1. How to buy a pinball machine
2. How to respond to "What's the lowest you'll take?" I hope I never for get your response to that, it's classic and I wish I had thought of that when selling several cars on Craigslist.
Some of what you discussed was what I thought to be common sense (sticking within a budget... etc..) But I'm grateful that you gave examples of where to do research when you suggest to do research.... I had not heard of pinballprices.com so thank you.
So you don't cover this in this video... not sure if you have a video on this. There are a few videos on "how to buy a pinball machine" and they address a first time buyer. They don't address what to do once you've bought the machine. I.E. How do I get it home? That's an intimating part of the purchase. I don't own a machine. I don't understand what I need to do to move it around and transport it home. I understand most machines disassemble in some way for transport... not sure how. I don't want to end up driving 300 miles with a fully assembled machine in the back of my pickup.
Maybe I'll find a video on that?
They are out there for sure. Which is one reason I haven't done that kind of video, yet. Thanks for watching.
Question I have is how did you get the TMNT cartoon to play on your TMNT machine!?!?
It's a modded code available through a couple of people on Pinside.
How do you check for counterfeit bills when selling? Do you hold up each bill to check it out while standing in front of the person? (I had a friend sell something and a few of the $100 bills were fake.) So, that is my second fear.
There are markers you can buy that are able to let you know if they are fake bills.
hey it's me again, I saw another page that is led for pinball called Comet, Is it safe to buy at LED Comet?
Comet is where I get my LEDs from. Yes. Comet is a great place for LEDs.
@@CaryHardy I'll buy some for my machine, it looks like it's a good site!
Just bought a fully modded Dracula I love that movie
Q: Say that your local bank's policy won't let you purchase anything from Local website, what you do there?
Put my money in a different bank that doesn't have such policies.
Man, I just want a premium BK sword of rage. I want to know everything about it and know how all of the parts work. I think I have a problem, though I doubt I will be called-out by the viewership of a video like this. I just want literally one single machine that I know everything about and can take care of like a hotrod, know what I mean?
And if you want to sell Williams cards on pinside, but I'm from Mexico, what problem would there be? or how could I sell them?
I'm sure you could sell cards. Just may need to work out pricing with shipping.
@@CaryHardy I have two that I want to sell, they are from the Harley Davidson, I have the main one that brings the relay, the audio one with an audio chip and another that is the power card, I don't know if anyone here would like them, I want to buy a speech card for another machine I have, I saw it on a page called ksarcade If I remember correctly, do you know if it is safe to buy there?
@@NavaTadeo Ks Arcade is solid seller. They do good with board repair too.
if it is the no? It sells what are the Williams cards but in modern ones, such as the rottendog, LED displays, I saw that they sell the speech Board and you can choose your Roms, So is it safe to buy there?
@@NavaTadeo yes
Now in late 2022 it seems these suggested starting price point has already aged poorly no? 2500 starting. I wonder if you would say 3500 now
Prices seem to be just skyrocketing. 2 years ago you could snag a Black Knight easy for 1200-1800 for a good player that is a nice base to refurb/restore. Yes, there are those deals still but nice player games have been going for 2k and up. It's crazy.
2k still cheap. Crappy Stern pins are $5K+. 😂
If it’s expensive for You, buy a videogame.
@@pinballlover4981 I don’t disagree. My point is how much they have jumped in such a short time. As an owner of 2. Keep moving up!
@@pinballlover4981 cute. My point was to illustrate that he fast ramp up in past several years. It’s an observation in support of the video. That is all.
@@pinballlover4981 dude where in my post did I say it was too expensve. Troll elsewhere
3 years later what is the the starting price you think new collectors should consider for their first Pinball?
Market is in a weird place right now. New game bottom price is 7K. While second hand market for the older games is beginning to come down from being inflated for a long time. Good older game will probably set you back 3K, and any less than that is probably a deal.
16:54 "What's the lowest amount you'll take?" is not only the quickest way to get under the skin of someone selling a pin but is also the quickest way to get under the skin of anyone selling anything...
Why is Gotlieb a brand that ppl stay away from?
I don't think people avoid them - they just had an odd choice of themes and quality that the majority don't find interesting. As far as having their system 3's on location they do quite well when it comes to maintenance.
All i had is 5 bucks.
So all I got was a bic pin and one rubber ball..
Not exactly a pinball machine.
But it's a start.
I've never purchased a high priced item privately. Here is my fear: I go to their house, say I'll buy the game, hand them $5000 and then the person says, "bye" and doesn't allow me to load the game and denies that I ever gave them the money. What do you think about my fear?
I understand that fear. As a Texan I always have my sidearm on me, but I have yet to ever have to rely on it. Haven't had a shady seller yet.
@@CaryHardy I was thinking that I would take at least a second person to help load and just say, "I'm going to video the transaction on my cell.". Or would that be way too paranoid?
@@DerHackers Bringing someone to "help" is always a good idea. I wouldn't be concerned with recording though.
Buy buy buy...
$2500 gets you junk in 2021
Yeah I know Texas market cheaper then say NY but $2500 buys you firepower 2 that needs work. The getaway is going for 4k now
This is just common sense.
I kind of wonder why when I am on line looking people are putting machines up for sale used for way more than they were new. I am not paying more than retail for a machine used machine. I wouldn’t pay above new car price for a used car. Come on man I will just buy a new one. Pro’s for 8000 dollars please. No freaking way.
What a load of crap. $2500 for a good game? WRONG. This is part of the damn problem that is driving up game prices. False information and people who overprice and "flip" games. If all you are looking for is a "prestige" collection, expect to pay a lot. If you just want to impress people with your expensive toys, start throwing money out. However, if you actually like pinball, the game, you do NOT need to spend anywhere close to that amount to get good, fun games. That lineup in the background has tons of bling and yes, some fun games, but you do not need to spend that kind of money to have some great games. People who like the game, the actual GAME, do not look at bling near as much as game play. Some of the best playing games were made long before any in that lineup.
ALSO... if you plan on owning a pinball machine, you absolutely MUST be prepared to repair it. There are very, very few people out there that will come and repair your game and if they do, they can be, and usually are, expensive. You can spend more repairing some games than you paid for the game and repairs do not increase the value.
Don't be afraid to buy machines with problems. This will massively reduce the price. You WILL need to fix it at some point. Start out by learning how to fix it and save a TON of money. If you actually like the game, you need to know how it is put together, how to take it apart and how to take care of it. Do not be afraid to learn.
There are so many points not mentioned here. Zero mention of what makes a good game. Zero mention of maintenance. Zero mention of electromagnet (EM) games.
Cary, you do not like the game. You like the bling.
I have close to a dozen pins, three EM shooters, 5 video games, 2 shuffle alleys, a change machine and a pay phone. One of the most popular games in my house was made in 1968. it is a Gottlieb Royal Guard. Universally loved by almost everyone that comes over.
The biggest collector I know is now slowly replacing many of his newer games with older games because once you get past the flashy stuff, it's the actual game play that matters.
Spend time playing before buying.
Don't be afraid to buy a cheap game for 500 or less.
Do not buy any game before checking out the gameplay and known issues. New games in particular are filled with factory problems. Even older games can have really annoying known problems. A perfect example is the classic 1979 Kiss machine. Everyone loves the look and the gameplay is fun, but it has a really annoying known issue with the ROM (programming) that causes the sound to stop in mid play and remain out until the ball is lost.
If you are new to buying a pin, ask people who know. Join pinball groups on facebook. Go to shows and meet people. Message me, if nothing else.
Great games can be found for FAR less than $2500.00.
Never ever buy from anyone that "flips" games. Don't do it. Just don't. They drive up prices and take advantage of you. Don't pay a lot of extra for mods. Mods are never expensive to buy and easy to install. Don't be fooled because someone added a spotlight.
Ugh... I could go on and on.
Step One should be: Don’t buy Stern pinball machines. 😂😂😂
Pinball Lover why? What’s wrong with stern machines?
@@nikolafeve pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/continued-playfield-issues-with-jjp-and-stern#post-5160116-parent
JJP are having more problems with their playfields than Stern. Check.