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I think the point in the fear of the Angels is actually something you touched on, which is that they DONT conquer, you can’t really negotiate with them, they just drop you back in time.
@@conradlorgar5508 Yeah but they submit so they can live, If WA's did arrive they'd likely seek some outside force to exterminate them (no pun intended)
@@SpykeTheSU yeah but angels don't kill you as the doctor said "The only psychopaths in the universe to kill you nicely. No mess, no fuss, they just zap you into the past and let you live to death"
@@conradlorgar5508 That's a very good point BUT thats still a frightening concept that you cant escape by surrendering, also they do snap necks in that one episode.
When the Doctor tells Amy in the Eleventh Hour that her life may depend on her knowing they the Doctor is just a mad man with a box, this is it. Amy has built the Doctor up as some kind of god in her head and this is the moment she understands the Doctor is just a bloke with a box, and the Doctor then realises he's putting her in too much danger and takes her home. It's perfect.
@@baileystuart-allen104 no that’s terrible plot but I mean at this point in the series as in by the point of god complex he was already a god to some planets and galaxies and he is one realky if you think about it
this might be one of the most controversial ones yet. I think this is peak who. So intricately done, highly creepy and an excellent budget constrained one. A 9 for me
How dare you be so civil and polite in you comment of disagreement! This is the Internet dammit! I agree with you. I rather like this episode. I have a particular liking for this doctor, which might be affecting my opinion.
@@TheGameCritc I don't really like this Doctor but I do like this episode. I think mostly for the concept. A hotel filled with rooms that have people's worst fears in them and feeds off that whole thing? Neato.
I don't agree with the idea that nothing interesting was done with David Walliams' character, while he's set up to be the comic relief character, as the story progresses we explore the full depths of his cowardice, as he's prepared to throw other people under the bus if it means he'll survive, and thus any chance of him being a likeable or fun character is purposefully destroyed by about halfway through the episode
I agree. He seems comical, but he's actually a nasty, self-serving little man. Heck, the Doctor directly confronts him about this. He's the sort of cowardly character that hides behind innocent people so they get shot first. A very dark character hiding behind the illusion of comedy.
Exactly. He's a character who won't truly stand up for anything, or anyone, but his own immediate survival. Now that's all fun and games when it's dignity or general backbone he's throwing away, but when it's morals? Strangers? Friends? A child? He is entirely without loyalty, and there really is no line he will not cross or monster he will not submit to and aid if it means his own continued survival.
Harry, you can be such a fuddyduddy sometimes. Obviously when the doctor says "Which is fine" he means it's fine FOR THE MINOTAUR RACE, until the race they invade gets too smart for them. You literally need to ignore the whole context of the sentence to not understand what the Doctor meant. Dude.
I came to the comments section to see if anyone had beaten me to thinking this. It seemed so obvious I'm surprised there was any confusion about what the Doctor meant.
This review has cemented in me the belief that he either hardly pays any attention at all when watching these episodes or that he's just really really unobservant and slow Some of the mistakes and misunderstandings here are just egregious
He seems very blinkered by his opinions, not seeing obvious explanations when having a personally negative opinion of an episode, and overly praising small or irrelevant details when liking it; objective he most certainly is not, and makes CinemaSins look like forensic analysts. :)
@@SpykeTheSU "Greetings, we come from Mootonia. Our species has studied you for thousands of years. We extend our hoof in peace. ... They did WHAT to our agents? ... Oh, except for India? Then l'm sorry, we'll have to destroy you all instead. Goodbye!"
The Tivolian did give an explanation for his fear of the angels right after seeing them, and this explanation was that the angels didn’t want to enslave his species, which answers another one of your criticisms. Its almost as if you just completely skipped that conversation when watching that episode
I think the mole mans fear of the weeping angels is because they don't enslave, they just kill. Had he heard about Darleks they would've been in there too.
This review is straight pain. I think this is one of the best from the Smith era; a really strong era on the whole, at that. Edit: Personally? An 8/10 from me.
I really liked it too. Especially the potential new assistant who flamed out quick those episodes are always interesting. It would've been nice to see some conflict with some actual competition to Amy which sadly never happened.
@@AirQuotes Yeah it was interesting to see the small mannerisms from Amy when The Doctor was focused on Rita. She was one of the best non-companions and her exit hits hard. Far superior to the likes of Adam Mitchell.
@@hitormissdoctorwhoreviews3491 its hilarious that I didn't even know who Adam Mitchell was by name but the 1st terrible one note companion I thought of was "is that the guy who went to the future and got a hole in his head"
I think the doctor was talking higher power faith, the kind of faith from a relationship is different, same with typical faith in others, the reason it works on Amy is that she built up the doctor to be a higher power and the doctor reminds her that he's only a man
@@conradlorgar5508 That was pretty awful, especially the statement of "isn't that where we get the word faithful from?" Faithful, in that context, means to be loyal to someone. It has nothing to do with having faith in something, which is about belief without proof. Sorry to Harry, but that's just a poor understanding of the English language.
It's not faith in a higher power, it's just believing in something - that is explicitly stated in the episode - whether it's a belief in a god, a belief in luck, a belief that events are shaped by conspiracy theories... It doesn't matter what the belief is IN, the belief is what feeds the monster.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg all those are higher power beliefs, God’s are literally higher powers, the belief that there is something called luck that shapes the world, that one only really counts if you think about luck in a certain way, which is why there aren’t hundreds of people there, I believe in luck just not as an overarching thing but as a thing you make yourself, and a majority of conspiracy theories rely on a a higher power controlling events
I don't understand how those Weeping Angels weren't real, "the image of an Angel is an Angel" and it was technically a 3D image, so the angels should have been real and able to kill everyone in that room. Hell, they'd probably have killed the Minotaur
could be a different kind that dont have that trait, considering how large the universe is it wouldnt be surprising if multiple types of weeping angel existed
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 hmm interesting. I like that theory. But honestly I think Moffat just kinda fucked up the weeping angels logic by over complicating their capabilities
For me, this is one of my two favourite Matt Smith episodes and an easy 8, maybe even a 9. The concept is so simple yet creepy and I found myself thinking about what would be in my room if I were in the hotel too. The repetition of 'praise him' often whispered and the quick-cut shots of the characters being serious and then giggling all add to the slow sense that the audience is also going slightly mad, which really adds to the story. I agree Rory is kind of sidelined here but ultimately the story is about Amy's faith in the doctor as a god-like being, so it wouldn't really make sense for it to focus on Rory and then have the flip at the end that it was actually all about Amy. I notice you completely skipped over the minotaur's last words where he shames the doctor for being a creature bathed in the blood of the innocent which was a nice chilling note to end on - perhaps the doctor isn't even a normal person (as opposed to a god) but actually more like a devil. Obviously these are just opinions about a TV show at the end of the day so all opinions are valid but I really got the sense you missed some of the better parts of this episode that make it a really great stand-alone story.
5:50 I always though he feared them because they WON'T enslave his race, just feed on them, they are not alien conquerors they are predators, this guy can't surrender to the angels because they wouldn't accept surrender(they probbably don't even care)
I think when the doctor said abou the Minotaur rule being fine that more a “and that’s all fine and dandy” thing for them they live in comfort before getting ousted and shoved in the maze
But even then, there wasn't any recognition or acknowledgement from Rory that might prevent him from looking like a cardboard cut out in that scene. "Oh my god, are those the angels you guys told me about?" for example, isn't delivered.
I've only seen Series 6 once, and that was when it first aired, so it's interesting going back and seeing people go over the episodes and revisiting the pockets in my memory. I forgot all about the whole faith aspect of the episode, but I always thought Amy waiting for the Doctor was the DOCTOR'S fear. The fear of someone waiting for him, whether that be waiting for him to take them somewhere, waiting for him to come by so they could talk one last time, or waiting for him to rescue them and him never showing up. That would have been much more powerful than Amy having "faith" in the Doctor.
I feel like if they included flashes of Martha and just straight-up drew allusions to her and the nurse it'd give more reason for the outburst. (Not very good reasons seeing as Martha mosty left his side unharmed, but still.)
I think he means "It's fine for the Minotaur who gets to be worshipped, it works until it doesn't", not "I'm fine with false gods." All the same, I distinctly remember hating this episode and wondering what other BBC production the Minotaur costume came from? Some taxpayer funded Greek legends mini series? And I remember my friends _liking_ this episode for who knows what.
Well, I feel like they made the creature look like the minotaur, because thematically it ties in with the labyrinth, not that they didn't have the boodget to make a new monster costume. Since clearly they did, this isn't reused from anything.
@@HiperPivociarz I'm not aware of everything in the extensive BBC costume closet, if you know for sure, that's cool. Even the hotel, 'which works thematically' happens to be really convenient for saving money
@@Ari-6 I never understood what's such a big problem with saving money. It's not like it's the show's fault BBC doesn't give them more money, the only good thing they could do is find nice locations that are cheap.
I quite like this one. It doesn't beat "The Girl who Waited" or "Closing Time", but it's not "Curse of the Black Spot" or "Let's Kill Hitler" either. Definitely better than the average episode of the series. Also, since you've started using the word "Budget" again, could we have the stock image again? I loved that guy. And even though I don't like David Walliams' comedy, I think he's good here.
Harry, not to be rude, but people watch your reviews more. If you want to stay afloat do more reviews. Sorry if I’m being rude, but that’s the main thing I am getting.
The reason the mole man’s room is full of weeping angels could just be a simple fear of them as many viewers share, but many believe it to be pretty self explanatory, His race survive off of other races having pity for them but the angels don’t have pity, they don’t invade or inslave they simply kill
10:35 "...which is fine until..." This line could've been fixed so easily to not imply that the Doctor believes its morally ok. He could've said "...which works for a while/time until..."
Toby Whithouse is easily one of my favorite writers of the show and I think this is such excellent episode with its exploration of faith, interesting setup, and analysis of the Doctor.
Harry seems very blinkered by his opinions, not seeing obvious explanations when having a personally negative opinion of an episode, and overly praising small or irrelevant details when liking it; objective he most certainly is not, and makes CinemaSins look like forensic analysts. :)
The fact that there is Patreon exclusive content is the reason I'll never pledge. I don't like that method. I feel like Patreon should be for something extra not for holding what should be the regular content hostage. Of course, that's just my opinion, so you do you...
So can I just ask something? All of those people that died in the hotel. Do the bodies just stay there forever or does The Doctor grab them and send them back to their families for proper burial rituals?
I honestly liked this episode a lot. I think it might be the only one I really enjoyed in Series 6, but after listening to you I do agree in some points. Still, I would give a 7/10. And I liked Rita a lot more than I can ever like Amy, I actually care for her as a character. I laughed when the Doctor said, "Amy, you're fired", because I liked the idea of Rita becoming a companion, But it was obvious she wasn't going to survive the episode, lol.
I will say the main reason I feel he was afraid of the angels was they wouldn't take over a planet, you can't rule a place if you feed by sending the people back in time. There the one race you couldn't really be enslaved by
As much as I enjoy this episode and how well it sends Amy off the TARDIS (for now), the fact this happened AFTER The Girl Who Waited really makes it suffer if you think about how different it would have been if they left after the events on Apalapucia (be it the Doctor similarly realizing the danger he put them in or both Amy and Rory deciding to leave themselves.)
I feel like it was pathetic using something hidden inside The Doctor’s room, and the mystery of what “faith” he has. It shows that to some degree they knew it sucked ass and needed a way to keep people interested. Also I would like to point out that they never have once tried to explain his faith, or his fear.
The Tivoli's "There's my planet...just drop me off at the nearest galaxy" statement, shows some of the writers' less than Stellar (punintended:) understanding of the Universe.
11:24 this shot pisses me off because like, the floor is set up in a grid, literally the easiest way to align things... and yet the floor window is neither on the grid, nor between it... made even worse by the fact that this basic design rule is followed by the nearest window, 20 feet away, does follow this rule, made even worse even worse by the fact that both the minotaur and the fekking TARDIS obey the rule in spite of not having any reason to do so due to them not being put there by design (within the show's context)
"An alien monster dictator, invading and ruling over planets is fine?" tecnically isn't that what a "god" is? i mean, beings that exists in other realms with inexplicable powers over all kinds of things and having sets of rules and followers, idk but in other terms it sounds a lot like alien monsters to me
my faverite episode during that era . Thou i think they missed a trick in not showing the doctors fear .I agree thou the episode the god Monumant was pretty bad .
I didn't particularly like this one only because they kept making fun of people's beliefs including the doctor so I wanted to smack so hard for the most part for the fact that they kept using Rory as a punching bag watch Broadchurch was more interesting than this
This is another episode I've always hated and I think its a perfect example as to why I've always hated the Moffat Era. While the concept of combining Stephan King's 'The Shining' with the Labyrinth from Greek Mythology is an absolutely smashing concept, the execution leaves a whole world to be desired with a literal minotaur and not some nebulous creature we never actually see [when we see it, it loses a fear factor] because it has a form the human mind cannot comprehend, or anything cool and high-concept like that, and the stupid, ridiculous, and inexplicable 'feeding off of faith' thing [no idea how that would even work with a literal minotaur] Why is it even called 'The God Complex'? Who in this episode has a god complex? Does the complex there are in have a mind of it's own and thinks itself the god over it's inhabitants? What does the Shining or the Labyrinth have to do with a god complex? If I really had to guess, I would think it VAGUELY refers to the Doctor having one, but that feels so utterly disconnected from the episode [outside of some very arbitrary-feeling references to religion] that I completely forgot that it was even the name of this episode. There's a really good idea buried deep within this episode, but the writers unfortunately have no idea how to make good of it, so what we get is a jumbled, confusing, full-of-itself, bloated mess of a story that barely makes any sense. To me, that is the Moffat Era in a nutshell
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I wondered why I was lacking notifications!
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I think the point in the fear of the Angels is actually something you touched on, which is that they DONT conquer, you can’t really negotiate with them, they just drop you back in time.
I mean they had a farm that one time
Who better to farm than a race that submits to you
GENIUS! That's GENIUS! I love it!
@@conradlorgar5508 Yeah but they submit so they can live, If WA's did arrive they'd likely seek some outside force to exterminate them (no pun intended)
@@SpykeTheSU yeah but angels don't kill you as the doctor said "The only psychopaths in the universe to kill you nicely. No mess, no fuss, they just zap you into the past and let you live to death"
@@conradlorgar5508 That's a very good point BUT thats still a frightening concept that you cant escape by surrendering, also they do snap necks in that one episode.
When the Doctor tells Amy in the Eleventh Hour that her life may depend on her knowing they the Doctor is just a mad man with a box, this is it. Amy has built the Doctor up as some kind of god in her head and this is the moment she understands the Doctor is just a bloke with a box, and the Doctor then realises he's putting her in too much danger and takes her home. It's perfect.
Tbf he basically is a god at this point
@@MartialFitness656 as of the timeless children haah
@@baileystuart-allen104 no that’s terrible plot but I mean at this point in the series as in by the point of god complex he was already a god to some planets and galaxies and he is one realky if you think about it
this might be one of the most controversial ones yet. I think this is peak who. So intricately done, highly creepy and an excellent budget constrained one. A 9 for me
How dare you be so civil and polite in you comment of disagreement! This is the Internet dammit!
I agree with you. I rather like this episode. I have a particular liking for this doctor, which might be affecting my opinion.
I didn’t enjoy it, just thought it was built on a very rocky premise
How did they just save themselves by Amy just not believing in the doctor
@@TheGameCritc I don't really like this Doctor but I do like this episode. I think mostly for the concept. A hotel filled with rooms that have people's worst fears in them and feeds off that whole thing? Neato.
hells yeah this episode is phenomenal
it's genuinely such a fun time
I don't agree with the idea that nothing interesting was done with David Walliams' character, while he's set up to be the comic relief character, as the story progresses we explore the full depths of his cowardice, as he's prepared to throw other people under the bus if it means he'll survive, and thus any chance of him being a likeable or fun character is purposefully destroyed by about halfway through the episode
I agree. He seems comical, but he's actually a nasty, self-serving little man. Heck, the Doctor directly confronts him about this. He's the sort of cowardly character that hides behind innocent people so they get shot first.
A very dark character hiding behind the illusion of comedy.
Exactly. He's a character who won't truly stand up for anything, or anyone, but his own immediate survival. Now that's all fun and games when it's dignity or general backbone he's throwing away, but when it's morals? Strangers? Friends? A child? He is entirely without loyalty, and there really is no line he will not cross or monster he will not submit to and aid if it means his own continued survival.
Harry, you can be such a fuddyduddy sometimes. Obviously when the doctor says "Which is fine" he means it's fine FOR THE MINOTAUR RACE, until the race they invade gets too smart for them. You literally need to ignore the whole context of the sentence to not understand what the Doctor meant. Dude.
ikr, what a blonker
Yeah, he does that a lot. A number of his criticisms stem from him just not paying attention.
And I say that as a Patron.
That exact what I thought
I came to the comments section to see if anyone had beaten me to thinking this. It seemed so obvious I'm surprised there was any confusion about what the Doctor meant.
Yeah itd be nice if he paid attention to the show, he has so many criticisms that stem from a lack of him paying attention or simply not understanding
Uh, I'm pretty they said that the tivoli was most afraid of an invader that was there to kill rather than enslave.
This review has cemented in me the belief that he either hardly pays any attention at all when watching these episodes or that he's just really really unobservant and slow
Some of the mistakes and misunderstandings here are just egregious
He seems very blinkered by his opinions, not seeing obvious explanations when having a personally negative opinion of an episode, and overly praising small or irrelevant details when liking it; objective he most certainly is not, and makes CinemaSins look like forensic analysts. :)
It's his opinion. I don't necessarily like Moffat's run, aside from a few good episodes
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@@markjohhny2959 you're on a website where people can freely reply to comments from 10 years ago don't pretend to be surprised.
The Doctor saying "That's fine" about them becoming gods of primitive species read to me as "It works for them"
in much the same way that us mass slaughtering cows is 'fine' until they evolve to minotaurs and force us to worship them as gods.
@@SpykeTheSU "Greetings, we come from Mootonia. Our species has studied you for thousands of years. We extend our hoof in peace. ... They did WHAT to our agents? ... Oh, except for India? Then l'm sorry, we'll have to destroy you all instead. Goodbye!"
@@TheDanishGuyReviews NO please you don't understand I only did that because the milk just tastes so much better fresh!
@@SpykeTheSU Thank you for your honesty. You will be first against the wall.
The Tivolian did give an explanation for his fear of the angels right after seeing them, and this explanation was that the angels didn’t want to enslave his species, which answers another one of your criticisms.
Its almost as if you just completely skipped that conversation when watching that episode
He skips over a lot in many of his episodes. He either ignores the context in which something happened or he interprets a piece of information wrong
I think the mole mans fear of the weeping angels is because they don't enslave, they just kill. Had he heard about Darleks they would've been in there too.
This review is straight pain. I think this is one of the best from the Smith era; a really strong era on the whole, at that.
Edit: Personally? An 8/10 from me.
I really liked it too. Especially the potential new assistant who flamed out quick those episodes are always interesting. It would've been nice to see some conflict with some actual competition to Amy which sadly never happened.
@@AirQuotes Yeah it was interesting to see the small mannerisms from Amy when The Doctor was focused on Rita. She was one of the best non-companions and her exit hits hard. Far superior to the likes of Adam Mitchell.
@The Doctors Destiny Thank you! :)
@@hitormissdoctorwhoreviews3491 its hilarious that I didn't even know who Adam Mitchell was by name but the 1st terrible one note companion I thought of was "is that the guy who went to the future and got a hole in his head"
Harry you really just misunderstood that "which is fine" line completely lmao
I think the doctor was talking higher power faith, the kind of faith from a relationship is different, same with typical faith in others, the reason it works on Amy is that she built up the doctor to be a higher power and the doctor reminds her that he's only a man
Correct, it's the same mistake apologists make. Faith as trust is something different than religious faith.
Yeah I was very confused by his "if he didn't have faith why would he get married" statement too
@@conradlorgar5508 That was pretty awful, especially the statement of "isn't that where we get the word faithful from?"
Faithful, in that context, means to be loyal to someone. It has nothing to do with having faith in something, which is about belief without proof.
Sorry to Harry, but that's just a poor understanding of the English language.
It's not faith in a higher power, it's just believing in something - that is explicitly stated in the episode - whether it's a belief in a god, a belief in luck, a belief that events are shaped by conspiracy theories... It doesn't matter what the belief is IN, the belief is what feeds the monster.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg all those are higher power beliefs, God’s are literally higher powers, the belief that there is something called luck that shapes the world, that one only really counts if you think about luck in a certain way, which is why there aren’t hundreds of people there, I believe in luck just not as an overarching thing but as a thing you make yourself, and a majority of conspiracy theories rely on a a higher power controlling events
No this is one of my favoruite episodes of all of who
I don't understand how those Weeping Angels weren't real, "the image of an Angel is an Angel" and it was technically a 3D image, so the angels should have been real and able to kill everyone in that room. Hell, they'd probably have killed the Minotaur
could be a different kind that dont have that trait, considering how large the universe is it wouldnt be surprising if multiple types of weeping angel existed
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 trueee, like there are 20 species of armadillos but they're still armadillos.
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 hmm interesting. I like that theory. But honestly I think Moffat just kinda fucked up the weeping angels logic by over complicating their capabilities
Yeah, Moffat really shot himself in the foot with the whole 'the image of an Angel becomes and Angel' rule.
For me, this is one of my two favourite Matt Smith episodes and an easy 8, maybe even a 9. The concept is so simple yet creepy and I found myself thinking about what would be in my room if I were in the hotel too. The repetition of 'praise him' often whispered and the quick-cut shots of the characters being serious and then giggling all add to the slow sense that the audience is also going slightly mad, which really adds to the story. I agree Rory is kind of sidelined here but ultimately the story is about Amy's faith in the doctor as a god-like being, so it wouldn't really make sense for it to focus on Rory and then have the flip at the end that it was actually all about Amy. I notice you completely skipped over the minotaur's last words where he shames the doctor for being a creature bathed in the blood of the innocent which was a nice chilling note to end on - perhaps the doctor isn't even a normal person (as opposed to a god) but actually more like a devil.
Obviously these are just opinions about a TV show at the end of the day so all opinions are valid but I really got the sense you missed some of the better parts of this episode that make it a really great stand-alone story.
Harry once again misunderstands and doesnt pay attention to the episode and complains about it
That's Par for the course for him!
One of my favourite Matt Smith episodes.
5:50 I always though he feared them because they WON'T enslave his race, just feed on them, they are not alien conquerors they are predators, this guy can't surrender to the angels because they wouldn't accept surrender(they probbably don't even care)
I always though rory's fear was having to leave amy, hence why he kept on being shown the way out that the others didn't see.
I think when the doctor said abou the Minotaur rule being fine that more a “and that’s all fine and dandy” thing for them they live in comfort before getting ousted and shoved in the maze
this might be my favourite episode of the show; such a subtle way of exploring big ideas like faith
Just because Rory has never encountered the Weeping Angels before this episode doesn't mean Amy didn't tell him all about them.
But even then, there wasn't any recognition or acknowledgement from Rory that might prevent him from looking like a cardboard cut out in that scene.
"Oh my god, are those the angels you guys told me about?" for example, isn't delivered.
@@HarrysMovingMedia fair point
@@HarrysMovingMedia very good point. We can't just assume Amy told him.. that's not good enough MOFFAT
@@HarrysMovingMedia Oh my god! They're angels! And they're weeping- wait a minute!
@@HarrysMovingMedia But... people don't talk like that. That's just "say what you see", which is lazy.
Looking forward to the Redux review in a couple of years
Rita was a medical student, not a nurse.
Literally one of the best episodes of new who, then given a 4...
He gave Vincent and the doctor a 4 too
@@The_Triple_Point He re-reviewed Vincent a few months ago and gave it a 7.
@@Lefty7788tinkatolli Because of the backlash
Toby Whithouse is one of my favorite writers of series 1 through 10
Loved this episode. I usually don't like the corridor episodes, but this one is just so weird and creepy, its lovely
Did it suck? No, but your review did and they often do to be honest
Crikey Jake!
True,Harry is a literal case study in bad faith critism
I've only seen Series 6 once, and that was when it first aired, so it's interesting going back and seeing people go over the episodes and revisiting the pockets in my memory. I forgot all about the whole faith aspect of the episode, but I always thought Amy waiting for the Doctor was the DOCTOR'S fear.
The fear of someone waiting for him, whether that be waiting for him to take them somewhere, waiting for him to come by so they could talk one last time, or waiting for him to rescue them and him never showing up. That would have been much more powerful than Amy having "faith" in the Doctor.
the minotaur would have been a great comeback threat in a Christmas special as the shows answer to Krampus
A lot of these criticisms are nit picks or are just overthought but I guess a lot of urs are
I feel like if they included flashes of Martha and just straight-up drew allusions to her and the nurse it'd give more reason for the outburst. (Not very good reasons seeing as Martha mosty left his side unharmed, but still.)
I think he means "It's fine for the Minotaur who gets to be worshipped, it works until it doesn't", not "I'm fine with false gods." All the same, I distinctly remember hating this episode and wondering what other BBC production the Minotaur costume came from? Some taxpayer funded Greek legends mini series? And I remember my friends _liking_ this episode for who knows what.
Well, I feel like they made the creature look like the minotaur, because thematically it ties in with the labyrinth, not that they didn't have the boodget to make a new monster costume. Since clearly they did, this isn't reused from anything.
@@HiperPivociarz I'm not aware of everything in the extensive BBC costume closet, if you know for sure, that's cool. Even the hotel, 'which works thematically' happens to be really convenient for saving money
@@Ari-6 I never understood what's such a big problem with saving money. It's not like it's the show's fault BBC doesn't give them more money, the only good thing they could do is find nice locations that are cheap.
@@Ari-6 Doctor Who, more than any other BBC show, has to do lots of things which happen to be really convenient for saving money.
@@LiveHedgehog And it leads to some of the best episodes, like Turn left and Blink. Unfortunately this wasn't one of them
Truly underrated channel. Honest and detailed reviews, you deserve more subs Harry
0:28 i honestly thought that was a close up on the jumper
I quite like this one. It doesn't beat "The Girl who Waited" or "Closing Time", but it's not "Curse of the Black Spot" or "Let's Kill Hitler" either. Definitely better than the average episode of the series.
Also, since you've started using the word "Budget" again, could we have the stock image again? I loved that guy.
And even though I don't like David Walliams' comedy, I think he's good here.
Harry, not to be rude, but people watch your reviews more. If you want to stay afloat do more reviews. Sorry if I’m being rude, but that’s the main thing I am getting.
11:55 that's their house that they are already living in, the keys are to the car.
I remember always really liking this and the previous episode, still enjoy them
She wasn't a nurse wasn't she a doctor or a medical student?
wdym this is my favorite episode ever
a 4/10
wow back to the harsh anti-moffat ratings again
It's fascinating how I disagree with almost every single thing you say in these videos.
i soooo wanted the medic to be the next companion, she was great
The reason the mole man’s room is full of weeping angels could just be a simple fear of them as many viewers share, but many believe it to be pretty self explanatory, His race survive off of other races having pity for them but the angels don’t have pity, they don’t invade or inslave they simply kill
A true favorite of mine. Doctor Who meets The Shining. Sorry about your situation, but I've been out of work for over a year.
10:35 "...which is fine until..."
This line could've been fixed so easily to not imply that the Doctor believes its morally ok. He could've said
"...which works for a while/time until..."
Accidentally skipped it on rewatch. Went back and it floored me, completely unexpected compared to when i watched it on 2011. Lovely episode
Toby Whithouse is easily one of my favorite writers of the show and I think this is such excellent episode with its exploration of faith, interesting setup, and analysis of the Doctor.
Under the lake, uninteresting characters? Is that a joke?
Harry seems very blinkered by his opinions, not seeing obvious explanations when having a personally negative opinion of an episode, and overly praising small or irrelevant details when liking it; objective he most certainly is not, and makes CinemaSins look like forensic analysts. :)
You cannot review something 'objectively'. You can disagree, that's ok, but if you want an 'objective' analysis, read the Wikipedia summary.
The fact that there is Patreon exclusive content is the reason I'll never pledge. I don't like that method. I feel like Patreon should be for something extra not for holding what should be the regular content hostage. Of course, that's just my opinion, so you do you...
the filming of this is consistent for horror round the mid 2010's :0
So can I just ask something? All of those people that died in the hotel. Do the bodies just stay there forever or does The Doctor grab them and send them back to their families for proper burial rituals?
I honestly liked this episode a lot. I think it might be the only one I really enjoyed in Series 6, but after listening to you I do agree in some points. Still, I would give a 7/10.
And I liked Rita a lot more than I can ever like Amy, I actually care for her as a character. I laughed when the Doctor said, "Amy, you're fired", because I liked the idea of Rita becoming a companion, But it was obvious she wasn't going to survive the episode, lol.
I feel bad for the goldfish, sidelined then brutally devoured
10:51 I think that they are close enough to see some continents.
I will say the main reason I feel he was afraid of the angels was they wouldn't take over a planet, you can't rule a place if you feed by sending the people back in time. There the one race you couldn't really be enslaved by
Begging isn't a career
You should review the BBC TV show Death in paradise
7/10 from Harry. Sounds about right.
Hahahaha the "set themselves up at gods and feed off faith" plot is lifted straight out of classic Star Trek
TNG also had an episode set in a mysterious prison featuring a member of a race that always surrenders to invasions.
As much as I enjoy this episode and how well it sends Amy off the TARDIS (for now), the fact this happened AFTER The Girl Who Waited really makes it suffer if you think about how different it would have been if they left after the events on Apalapucia (be it the Doctor similarly realizing the danger he put them in or both Amy and Rory deciding to leave themselves.)
I feel like it was pathetic using something hidden inside The Doctor’s room, and the mystery of what “faith” he has. It shows that to some degree they knew it sucked ass and needed a way to keep people interested.
Also I would like to point out that they never have once tried to explain his faith, or his fear.
Saying you thought an e type Jag was a Corvette Stingray is an insult
I was and would again but I am poor at the moment lol, will defo again when I can though!
The Tivoli's "There's my planet...just drop me off at the nearest galaxy" statement, shows some of the writers' less than Stellar (punintended:) understanding of the Universe.
Or the Tivolian just doesn't want to return home - it's presumably been invaded again by someone unpleasant.
11:24 this shot pisses me off because like, the floor is set up in a grid, literally the easiest way to align things... and yet the floor window is neither on the grid, nor between it... made even worse by the fact that this basic design rule is followed by the nearest window, 20 feet away, does follow this rule, made even worse even worse by the fact that both the minotaur and the fekking TARDIS obey the rule in spite of not having any reason to do so due to them not being put there by design (within the show's context)
5:27 they don't, that's the point.
I always wanted Rita to be a future companion
5:06 LMFAOOOOOO
Wow, this is the first time, I've seen your face, you look much younger than I thought
"An alien monster dictator, invading and ruling over planets is fine?" tecnically isn't that what a "god" is? i mean, beings that exists in other realms with inexplicable powers over all kinds of things and having sets of rules and followers, idk but in other terms it sounds a lot like alien monsters to me
This story's in my top ten :(
I quite like this episode
now i really want you to review 'the horns of nimon' from classic who season 17!! please??
When’s the next Sherlock review
How would one go about reaching you to discuss a sponsorship?
Re review heavens sent
I have to disagree with most of the criticisms. This is probably one of the better episodes in Series 6.
my faverite episode during that era . Thou i think they missed a trick in not showing the doctors fear .I agree thou the episode the god Monumant was pretty bad .
Hope you find a sponsor mate. There's loads out there
You had a haircut?
No his head grew
@@ericlayton8888 Oof
Cousin species of the nimon... fking nimon
Having a sponsor doesn't make you a sellout. You're only a sellout if you take a sponsorship from something you don't believe in/support.
Man I love this episode
I see alot of flaws in this episode, but almost none of them are stated in this video. It seems to be largely nitpicking and missing the point.
Literally 1984
Agree, good idea, bad execution.
I didn't particularly like this one only because they kept making fun of people's beliefs including the doctor so I wanted to smack so hard for the most part for the fact that they kept using Rory as a punching bag watch Broadchurch was more interesting than this
Damn, you´re handsome......
This is my second favourite episode of Series 6 (after Girl Who Waited of course)
You need to do other videooosss bro
9/10
Not one of your best reviews. Also the doctor doesn't just make Amy stop believing in him, he makes her see why she shouldn't have faith in him.
This is another episode I've always hated and I think its a perfect example as to why I've always hated the Moffat Era. While the concept of combining Stephan King's 'The Shining' with the Labyrinth from Greek Mythology is an absolutely smashing concept, the execution leaves a whole world to be desired with a literal minotaur and not some nebulous creature we never actually see [when we see it, it loses a fear factor] because it has a form the human mind cannot comprehend, or anything cool and high-concept like that, and the stupid, ridiculous, and inexplicable 'feeding off of faith' thing [no idea how that would even work with a literal minotaur]
Why is it even called 'The God Complex'? Who in this episode has a god complex? Does the complex there are in have a mind of it's own and thinks itself the god over it's inhabitants? What does the Shining or the Labyrinth have to do with a god complex?
If I really had to guess, I would think it VAGUELY refers to the Doctor having one, but that feels so utterly disconnected from the episode [outside of some very arbitrary-feeling references to religion] that I completely forgot that it was even the name of this episode.
There's a really good idea buried deep within this episode, but the writers unfortunately have no idea how to make good of it, so what we get is a jumbled, confusing, full-of-itself, bloated mess of a story that barely makes any sense.
To me, that is the Moffat Era in a nutshell
This is your worst review.
You meant to say agnostic not atheist - please, brush up on your definitions.
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