A man that truly understands the physics of each tree. Cutting and placing his bar precisely and accurately with every motion. A true logger. Thank you for sharing your years of knowledge and expertise. I have never seen a man who truly understands every movement he makes, such as yourself
Robert Plant ....what the FOOK are you talking about man. This guy cut all the way through the tree he thought he could drop and didnt have the gumption to see the trees had grown together. He thought he was going to drop them one at a time. Crazy you never ever run your hands under a tree that has been cut through like that. If that tree had separated from the cluster it would have set down over three or four tons on his hand and he’d a lost his arm or life in the process. Didn’t you notice how many times he kept looking up, he was puzzled why the tree wouldn’t separate and fall. A master tree feller, hell no, a lucky FOOK, hell yes.
Jack I have been a Faller now going on my 18th year and it's true you can teach an old dog new tricks....were lucky you take the time to share and explain. Thanks again and God bless and keep you sir.
If this video does not set the bar for proper cutting & placement then I dont know what does. A true master faller you are Sir Jack. That was impressive. Stay safe and God Bless.
Whoever you are, your Boss is a Keeper. I never cut down trees, but EVERY boss I ever worked for would send me out to do a job, show up when the job was 1/2 done and start pointing out all the mistakes you made or how The Boss would do it differently. Dstroys confidence and the ability to think on your own.
Chris hi. I took "the boss" - Chris - into my strip back in '08. Showed him a few things. There are videos on this channel of him in action. Also, he is one filming some of the antics in one of the blow down patches on the alter ego channel if you want to see things that are really intense. Anyhow, we have worked around each other since ~ '05 off and on as I felled for his dad a fair amount. Chris is seen in some of the videos from ~ 2/3/4/5 years ago on the D6 grapple cat, rigging trees, etc. At ~ 12/15 my junior, I made it further around the block in some aspects. Thanks for watching.
Hello and thanks for watching. To clarify a few things I see in the comments: I felled this double in October of 2017. Early serial # Stihl 064. All original except the dawgs, Maxy & a later serial # 064 coil. Stihl lw 34.5" bar (114 drivers) which is supposed to be 3' somehow. Oregon full skip .063 gauge .375 pitch chain. I hit something hard in the first ripping cut as you hear the pulsating in the chain start part way down. I used the ax in the initial kerf to watch for movement since the first tree was a big ? on whether or not it would hang on. Sometimes they don't hold fast. The "This One Was A Little Dangerous" video shows what happens when the front one peels off. We watched the ax handle coming up slightly not to far into the deck cut. I cut the "low side" (most of the weight from the front tree was vectored off ~ 25º from the shot) first purposefully to try and mitigate the possibility of it breaking away while I was on that side since there was still a lot of holding wood on side opposite. From ~ 31:30 to 32:40 we watched the tree REALLY sitting forward as I struggled not to get pinched while insistently looking up for the front tree to peel off . Now, the neg-head-downer commentors on the length of time it took or I must be a newbie completely miss this fact. As I was cutting in the tree was moving forward pretty close from the start of the deck. Trying to take a single deck kerf all the way back will, 99% of the time on a tree/s like this, get you stuck. The reason I worked the face back in stages was so I did not get pinched. Those that know, do things a certain way to prevent a problem. Also, because the front tree could/might break off at any instant, a guy better have the "partial face" as close to gunned into the shot as possible lest you miss the lay. It's funny. Those that think they know it all make the appropriate and misguided comments. When Chris came over, I stated and we saw that the front tree was completely cut off in the hinge. I "woods scale" my cuts. This is an honor system. A decent log cutter doesn't want to get a bad wrap as a "long thumber". Erroring on the side of a little less on the diameters is what you do. The bigger tree had a 30" cut at the end on the 40' log. The smaller tree was 26" at the 40' log - which it was 1 20'er and 2 40' logs. Watching in the video they did not seem to look that big to me. Upon review, they shipped this wood to a mill down south because the pay was more. $1100 per thousand was the net. Falling, logging, and trucking costs have to be paid from the gross moneys. The forestry personnel and taxes also have to be paid from the gross. They only take ~ 150,000 B F.a year off of this property in most years. Thanks for stopping by.
I know enough to know that you did a damn good job on this cluster. It appears that no matter how good you are at something, there will always be people who don't know, but are willing to advise you. I appreciated everything you did, and the reason for it. And yes, for goodness sake, snatch them chunks out of the face quick as you can!! Stay safe out there!
This is why i like fallers corner so much , not just your typical face cut back cut and watch her fall . Awesome job jack . Thought for a minute we were gonna she another fuel up till i realized you were almost threw with your face cut . You wouldn't want to many of those on one job .
dan clas hi. Completely cut the front tree off without getting pinched. Why it was so time consuming. I've seen strips where you are dealing with doubles, triples, quadruples, quintuples, well you get the drift, continually. That was phun,,, kinda…. Thanks for watching.
I kept thinkin, when's he 'snipe' that stump.....then finally you did! :-) Nice work Jack, and thanks for showing the whole process! Lord Bless...Stay Healthy!
Mr. Jack, you're Blessed man.. Even after reading your foot notes, I kept waitin for first sister to peel off from her big sister. Let em say what they wanna, but I didn't see no one in your pocket,The Boss was happy, and you n the old saw survived to tell bout it. Ain't nuthin else matters, is there.
That thing is an evil mess of wood! I don't claim to be an expert but I'm not a novice either. There was some technical work there I couldn't quite follow. I would have nibbled around a little and then gone for the explosives. Blow it from a hundred yards away. You have my admiration and respect sir!
Yes sir there was a lot of experience happening on this one (2). There is a "play by play" in the description that spells out most of the thought/action process. Thanks for watching.
Sir! You are the master! I've cut a lot of trees down but NOTHING like that! I have an old Stihl 029 Farm boss with a 20 in. bar an recently purchased an Echo Timberwolf which is also a good machine. But I found out it won't crank if you don't flip the on/off switch to "on", duh! You've must've had a lot of schooling! Keep up the great work and be safe!
Mate you don't have to clarify anything.Your a top bloke who actually gets out and does it well .your experience and knowledge is second to none. long may you keep sharing your special gift. 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍
It's always amazing to see a master of his field at work. I know I wouldn't sit there riveted watching a video of me "just doing my job" for almost an hour. Amazing stuff, stay safe.
Great job brother. It takes guts, stamina, endurance and a lot of skill to drop a tree of that magnitude. Very enjoyable video my friend. Stay safe and give God the Glory !!!!
I haven't even watched the whole video yet, but I'm gonna subscribe right now based solely on the fact you put a timeline with timestamps in the description. Much appreciated.
That sure is a cherry 064 with a hole shot I got 066s with the hole shot air cleaners. The pro safety big dogs and bars too. They don’t build like that anymore. Long live the old bushelin days. The paint ain’t even wore off the side case that’s a true gem 💎
man she'll burn a tank of gas on that cluster !!! nice work fo-sho !!! i;ve had to do the same type thing on big cluster of oak here in pa ! great vid !
That is just crazy! What a skillful showing of cutting and sawing! I haven’t seen anything like this on Buckin Billy Rays channel! Definitely not something I would ever attempt especially since I just started using a chainsaw and I’m almost 59
Thank you. Probably because the guy here started falling timber professionally 35/40 years ago. The title sums up the level that is requires and what is at stake with this operation. Thanks for watching.
Buckin is one of the better drummers I’ve seen with a chainsaw, thanks to Wranglerstar. Jack and Bjorne are timber fallers that put the board feet on the ground!
What size pull cord do that saw require in order to crank w out breaking? I recently replace the cord on my 034 av with new. It continues to break. You think the timing may be out? Or am i using to small of diameter cord?
Jerry hi. Hard for me to tell what size your using. Seems like there are three or four. If the bushing in the starter cover is worn it could be causing premature wear on the cord. They haven't made that saw for quite awhile. I would be looking there 1st. I guess it is possible to have sheered the key. Seems like if the timing is out that far you would have a "phunny" running saw. Stihl fits some of their saws with smaller diameter ropes. Trouble is when a guy tries to up size they don't ways lay right on the spool/pulley when going through the motions of starting a saw. Back to not sure which size you are using. You can buy the rope separately from the the ts760 cutoff saw (I think it is anyway). That is a 4.5mm rope. Still works in the elasto-start handle. Sounds like a trip to the shop may be in order if you cannot rectify the situation. Good luck.
The "mystical" sky hook was the 4 to 6" limbs growing from the bigger one that were threaded into the smaller trees. This is commonplace on the NorCal Coast of Cali - "Commafornia". I've jacked trees straight up and off the stump only to have them just sit there. Which is why I was using the weight of the front one hanging forward on the double. In essence leveraging the double against itself by sawing a deep face. Thanks for watching.
Ya man whene he said “I might gas up” then he started separating the crotches I was like, “he’s gotta replace his chain AND gas up. But things went smooth!!???!!
Gentlemen hi. It did hit something in the ripping operation and it was pretty straightaway. You can hear the pulsating in the chain. Thanks for watching.
I was thinking the same thing . I own a old farm with a lot of old trees ,a lot of harvesting. Had a big double ,found the all thread they had used 50 years ago to keep them together. Ruined that chain this guy is a real pro but I would not have walked in front of it so much .
big east coast pine grows like that sometimes. there only 4-5 feet around and 130-140 high. but same thing. saw down the middle to seperate . face cut all. smallest hinge i can. send them all at once. when you bore and plunge big oak most day. it makes the middle pine easier . in not a great cutter like you. but i get lucky sometimes. , i always laugh at guys that cut really high making it hard. instead of just separating the trees. .. great job
Kenneth hi. I ran a customers 461 against this 064 last winter and posted the video. They run about the same. The early (mine) 064s had some limitations flow wise. I upgraded it since then and added a factory BB to it but did not get to crazy since the 064 has around 3 million under it's belt. I have not ran it against my Torquer 461 yet. Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 that 064 is a freakn beast. So impressed with saw and you for not killing yourself But, that's why you're a professional. An inexperienced cutter might have had a different outcome.
Wow, Mr.Jack, I respectfully say this was tremendous. I originally was going to watch 10 min and stop but I road it til the end! Ah ha. Amazing the work the 046, (correction, 064, bit of a differance, ah ha), Stihl put out, chain stayed seemingly sharp after alot of stuff. The chunks you were pulling out, the wedges,.. amazing. . Looking back, would you have cut it differantly? Could you have just made a huge wedge and dropped it with a back cut, classic traditionally, or did you see the large vertical cuts as allowing the trunks to pop apart at ground impact. I know, you did it for a reason, just trying to understand it better, great job. Extrordinary video that had me gripped. "Big Timber on the ground".
Sorry for the mispells, what else,.. love to get some more post cut feedback on the approach, fantastic work, good job keeping an eye on things. Looks like there was a pretty good spiders Web nest in there. My Brother Wayne got a Brown Recluse bite up high in a tree, bad deal, kind of ruined the rest of the day and days thereafter. . I was a baby at the time, but I heard the story a few times growing up, those bites are destructive to living tissue, post bite complications, enough of that.. Really something this video. Thanks for making and Hello all from Alaska. Wow..
John hi. Hit something pretty close to the start of 1st rip cut - the pulsating can be heard. No. I went into a little further in the middle of the pinned comment. Thanks for watching.
Thanks, I Remember You Measuring 6ft., at the base, in the video, if I remember correctly, I was thinking 4. Big Timber!.. I never seen anything like that, that tree hanging up there like that.. I could see the guys looking at that tree system, early in the game, ...."Better have Jack do this one". That 064 kicked some butt. Thanks for your Time.
You were closer to meeting Jesus than anyone could be. Brave and talented. Sweeping the pieces out gave me chills! Best performed by a real professional and also good to have your guardian angel with you. Near the end the chips or rot your saw was going through increased my anxiety for you. Well done, Sir!
I thought the same thing when you reached his whole arm in there to sweep out that piece! I don't think that was skill though; just not smart. He could have used his axe! I watched him make those cuts to separate those trees vertically! Not smart at all.
That was scary, kept expecting a horror movie scene every time you put your hands & arms in to clean the debris. 2 ft. diameter is pretty much my limit on easy, mostly straight up trees. & that was years ago when I was much younger & able to exit stage left in a hurry.
I sometimes wonder when foresters mark trees like that and include a leave tree in the mess if they think the leave tree is more valuable then the faller who draws it
That was bad ace Jack! I have to agree with others that you are, one of if not the best precision and or technical timber fallers of the TH-cam world. With the advance 'warning, warning' in the title one could argue the afore mentioned statement with having the leader cut off and hanging on #2. But Silvey was hanging out in the refreshments section of the side lines with gas, oil, Sprite²0, and the nose bag, so it isn't like you aren't prepared out to "plan Q" (which is an odd thought of potential as to what this might look like but I also feel like you've sold off every saw and saw part by the time you have to employ or deploy "plan Q"......) when you would have noticed the program has taken a turn out of favor. So I know my pea brain has missed A LOT in observation to this point but let's take 4000 feet of boards HANGING off the back counterpart..........how many backpack sets of Silvey does it take to get that out of there as a single to be "safer" than taking as a pair? I'm not a professional anything nor in this profession to know what 'about' 4000 board feet of red weighs in at, but three 20s and a 40 to the break and 28" still on the skinny end has gotta be a log truck load give or take so we'll estimate 40 ton of bound up red hangin out as the leader in this scenario for ease of my mental facilities lmao! What I'm leading up to here is I think this is one of the longest videos I think that you've posted Jack, and I was glad to see the entire process as an example of the time it takes at one's own pace for this to develope into the plan under the bump hat. I got a kick out of "I'm not super happy with this side yet" after Chris came over to take in the show, because I could just hear the office chair cutters exhale with disgust as the earth jolted with the rolling of their eyes lmao........hey people, it takes as long as it takes for a man (and not singularly Jack in this phrase, it's for everyone who cuts a tree) to be good, or happy with their face cut before lighting the fuse that is the back cut. They're the one gonna get bit by it so let em to their respective work. Now that I've pecked out a dang book here, I'll leave you're eyes and ears to slow of bleeding and bid you safe cuttin and thank you for sharing this and the ought-64 in the lead role. Hope all are healthy with you and yours Jack
Woos31 hi. I cannot say I'm much different than anyone else. He just gave me a certain type of thought process and then He put in an industry that it would/could be pushed, tested, developed. That maneuver is not recommend to ANYONE, EVER. There is a title in the pinned comments where one peels off prematurely - Run Forrest, RUN... I'm a simpleton. This was Plan A. If the front one peeled of and I lived to tell, then I would have had to jack the back tree's limbs through the leave trees. That would have been plan B. There was ~ 12,000 that I scaled in the two stems to 100'. Two chunks Chris gobbled up before I could get to them - chaser phun… I think the "small one" had ~ 4800/5 or so in it standing. Regardless, a lot of weight to be just hanging around. A normal truck weighs ~ 40 tons to be legal. But trucks have some mass to them. Maybe 10/12/15 tons depending on the frame rail thickness, axles, engine, wheels etc. I get your drift though. Somewhere around 50,000 pounds hanging out in outer space. You have to be a little careful with backpack sets of Silvey's lest you jack one off the hinge. At that point you'd have areal mess on your hands..... The bigger tree had 4/6 limbs. Only one entangled in the leave clump sometimes is a problem child. I fell a few trees in here that were ~ 10k in scaled volume. There were 4 log loads - only because I had to buck them down so the loader could pick the logs up. There are a number of 3 log load potentials in this area. I think they were getting 5/6 thousand on a load because these log scaled up nicely. In order to save as much of the volume as possible, I needed these trees to do a certain thing at a certain time and they had to blow through a few other trees. Already said this in the comments, I'll adjust the face 5700 times if I think it will help get me what I'm after. This comes from the days of felling trees with 25, 50, even 80,000 B.F. in them. I addressed the arm chair awesomeness in the pinned comment. There is a video title of one of these operations where the front tree did not hold on in the pinned comment. Also, more refinement on some of what was going on whilst I was cutting on the face. Thanks for watching.
I appreciate this response. Way to deal with the "know-everything's". I've said for years: Those that know will make the appropriate comment/s. Those that don't will also make the appropriate "stick their feet in their mouths" notation. Exposing to the knowing world, their ignorance. Seems, and it's unfortunate, to more of the latter on this particular video... Thanks for watching as well.
That was an impressive cut, I am glad it ended safely. Was that a lightening strike exit wound at the base of that tree? Was wondering if those create dangerous situations when felling trees that have evidence of massive strikes. Nicely done & stay safe.
Paleo Man hi. It started life as at least a triple. The middle one was out nutritioned but the two we saw in the video. They can be rotten in the hinge sometimes. That makes the process a little more interesting... Especially if a guy needs a certain thing to happen on the stump and the decay is right where you have to put the hinge to accomplish the goal. Seen that more times than I can count. If the rot is not in the hinge then it's just de-dock once the scaler get the pencil involved. I have nuked some trees that were nailed by lightning. Most of the time the travel path is on the outside or it blows one of the tops out if the tree is a marm. Then travels down. Sometimes the path spirals down. Sometimes it blows the tree internally and it a shell. Sometimes it just plain wastes the tree. I don't think there is a standard outcome on a lightning struck tree. Figuring out what you have left to work with and then making the right moves is the interesting part. Thanks for watching.
Dude it’s like watching a Jedi take down a tree! Amazing to watch when you’re not from that part of the world. That bar oil looks thin; what is it? Also just out of curiosity what mix oil do you run? I may send you my 440.
the only other person I've seen breaking out a Stihl 064 is Gordy over on Westcoast Saws. I think he done a rebuild or repair for someone and was putting it to the test on falling some big trees. Are you using a 32 or 36"? I noticed you have a full skip chain on it. are you using a 0.063/3/8"? Just curious! I don't think I've ever see 3 trees grow up together like that. What an odd setting!
A man that truly understands the physics of each tree. Cutting and placing his bar precisely and accurately with every motion. A true logger. Thank you for sharing your years of knowledge and expertise. I have never seen a man who truly understands every movement he makes, such as yourself
I know right crazy huh
Robert Plant ....what the FOOK are you talking about man. This guy cut all the way through the tree he thought he could drop and didnt have the gumption to see the trees had grown together. He thought he was going to drop them one at a time. Crazy you never ever run your hands under a tree that has been cut through like that. If that tree had separated from the cluster it would have set down over three or four tons on his hand and he’d a lost his arm or life in the process. Didn’t you notice how many times he kept looking up, he was puzzled why the tree wouldn’t separate and fall. A master tree feller, hell no, a lucky FOOK, hell yes.
Robert Langley concepts beyond the capabilities. Keep yer finger on the trigger little feller, you got more piss in you then brains
Robert Langley - He planned on dropping them _together_ right from the beginning.
@@robertlangley258 idiot.
Jack I have been a Faller now going on my 18th year and it's true you can teach an old dog new tricks....were lucky you take the time to share and explain. Thanks again and God bless and keep you sir.
If this video does not set the bar for proper cutting & placement then I dont know what does.
A true master faller you are Sir Jack. That was impressive. Stay safe and God Bless.
Thank you, and for watching.
That was awesome! Love the play by play...they did just what you wanted them to. You are truly a master of your craft Jack, thank you for sharing.
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Whoever you are, your Boss is a Keeper. I never cut down trees, but EVERY boss I ever worked for would send me out to do a job, show up when the job was 1/2 done and start pointing out all the mistakes you made or how The Boss would do it differently. Dstroys confidence and the ability to think on your own.
Chris hi. I took "the boss" - Chris - into my strip back in '08. Showed him a few things. There are videos on this channel of him in action.
Also, he is one filming some of the antics in one of the blow down patches on the alter ego channel if you want to see things that are really intense.
Anyhow, we have worked around each other since ~ '05 off and on as I felled for his dad a fair amount. Chris is seen in some of the videos from ~ 2/3/4/5 years ago on the D6 grapple cat, rigging trees, etc.
At ~ 12/15 my junior, I made it further around the block in some aspects.
Thanks for watching.
My house is in the middle of a 110 year old Pecan orchard. Every time I think I have tree problems, I watch you guys and feel a lot better😁
Hello and thanks for watching. To clarify a few things I see in the comments:
I felled this double in October of 2017.
Early serial # Stihl 064. All original except the dawgs, Maxy & a later serial # 064 coil.
Stihl lw 34.5" bar (114 drivers) which is supposed to be 3' somehow.
Oregon full skip .063 gauge .375 pitch chain.
I hit something hard in the first ripping cut as you hear the pulsating in the chain start part way down.
I used the ax in the initial kerf to watch for movement since the first tree was a big ? on whether or not it would hang on. Sometimes they don't hold fast. The "This One Was A Little Dangerous" video shows what happens when the front one peels off.
We watched the ax handle coming up slightly not to far into the deck cut.
I cut the "low side" (most of the weight from the front tree was vectored off ~ 25º from the shot) first purposefully to try and mitigate the possibility of it breaking away while I was on that side since there was still a lot of holding wood on side opposite.
From ~ 31:30 to 32:40 we watched the tree REALLY sitting forward as I struggled not to get pinched while insistently looking up for the front tree to peel off . Now, the neg-head-downer commentors on the length of time it took or I must be a newbie completely miss this fact. As I was cutting in the tree was moving forward pretty close from the start of the deck. Trying to take a single deck kerf all the way back will, 99% of the time on a tree/s like this, get you stuck. The reason I worked the face back in stages was so I did not get pinched. Those that know, do things a certain way to prevent a problem. Also, because the front tree could/might break off at any instant, a guy better have the "partial face" as close to gunned into the shot as possible lest you miss the lay. It's funny. Those that think they know it all make the appropriate and misguided comments.
When Chris came over, I stated and we saw that the front tree was completely cut off in the hinge.
I "woods scale" my cuts. This is an honor system. A decent log cutter doesn't want to get a bad wrap as a "long thumber". Erroring on the side of a little less on the diameters is what you do. The bigger tree had a 30" cut at the end on the 40' log. The smaller tree was 26" at the 40' log - which it was 1 20'er and 2 40' logs. Watching in the video they did not seem to look that big to me.
Upon review, they shipped this wood to a mill down south because the pay was more. $1100 per thousand was the net. Falling, logging, and trucking costs have to be paid from the gross moneys.
The forestry personnel and taxes also have to be paid from the gross. They only take ~ 150,000 B F.a year off of this property in most years.
Thanks for stopping by.
It would of been nice to be there
Thank you for all your vids and postings
What does a guy need in the bank to own 100 acres of stuff like that in any kind of ground?
I know enough to know that you did a damn good job on this cluster. It appears that no matter how good you are at something, there will always be people who don't know, but are willing to advise you. I appreciated everything you did, and the reason for it. And yes, for goodness sake, snatch them chunks out of the face quick as you can!! Stay safe out there!
@@samuelluria4744 hi. I appreciate your commentary, it was perfect - thank you.
Yepper!
You as well.
hotsaws101 - 😉
I just cut firewood and don’t come close to your expertise, but I would never stick my hands in the tree. You got her down. Good work. Take care.
This is why i like fallers corner so much , not just your typical face cut back cut and watch her fall . Awesome job jack . Thought for a minute we were gonna she another fuel up till i realized you were almost threw with your face cut . You wouldn't want to many of those on one job .
dan clas hi. Completely cut the front tree off without getting pinched. Why it was so time consuming. I've seen strips where you are dealing with doubles, triples, quadruples, quintuples, well you get the drift, continually.
That was phun,,, kinda….
Thanks for watching.
Great job Jack! Cluster on the ground and your still up right and breathing. Experienced and blessed!
Thank you, and for watching.
I kept thinkin, when's he 'snipe' that stump.....then finally you did! :-) Nice work Jack, and thanks for showing the whole process! Lord Bless...Stay Healthy!
Don't know about gassing up...
I had to charge me phone before the end...🤣🤣.
Great job. Loved every minute.
Nice job. Gotta loves when a plan comes together. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there. God bless.
Thank you, and for watching.
Mr. Jack, you're Blessed man..
Even after reading your foot notes, I kept waitin for first sister to peel off from her big sister.
Let em say what they wanna, but I didn't see no one in your pocket,The Boss was happy, and you n the old saw survived to tell bout it. Ain't nuthin else matters, is there.
Jack you are a humble man, this I know. But that was some amazing skill there buddy! God bless and stay safe 💪
Murk StalinskiTM - DUKE!!!
@@samuelluria4744 🤠
Thank you, and for watching.
Awesome video Jack! Glad to see everything worked out nicely for ya! Take care man. 👍
Love the used name, btw.
Thank you, and for watching.
That thing is an evil mess of wood! I don't claim to be an expert but I'm not a novice either. There was some technical work there I couldn't quite follow. I would have nibbled around a little and then gone for the explosives. Blow it from a hundred yards away.
You have my admiration and respect sir!
Yes sir there was a lot of experience happening on this one (2). There is a "play by play" in the description that spells out most of the thought/action process.
Thanks for watching.
Sir! You are the master! I've cut a lot of trees down but NOTHING like that! I have an old Stihl 029 Farm boss with a 20 in. bar an recently purchased an Echo Timberwolf which is also a good machine. But I found out it won't crank if you don't flip the on/off switch to "on", duh! You've must've had a lot of schooling! Keep up the great work and be safe!
Thank you. And for watching.
Mate you don't have to clarify anything.Your a top bloke who actually gets out and does it well .your experience and knowledge is second to none. long may you keep sharing your special gift. 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍
A mudgie hi. Thanks for your kind words, and for watching.
Dangerous for sure, thankfully they held together. I watched this 3 years ago when you uploaded it and just watched it again. Very good work!
Redwood Country. It's different kind of felling experience.
I'm thnakful as well..
Thanks for stopping by once again.
It's always amazing to see a master of his field at work. I know I wouldn't sit there riveted watching a video of me "just doing my job" for almost an hour. Amazing stuff, stay safe.
Thank you, and for watching.
Great job brother. It takes guts, stamina, endurance and a lot of skill to drop a tree of that magnitude. Very enjoyable video my friend. Stay safe and give God the Glory !!!!
30 mins in....man what a clean out and nothing moved tweaked or cracked thats a solid beast!
Awesome film work, I really enjoy watching you work. Your knowledge and skill are unmatched, be Blessed and stay Safe!
Thank you, and for watching.
Real nice job. Watched the whole thing. Real nice. Hello from NH
Love seeing that 064 getting work again!
I haven't even watched the whole video yet, but I'm gonna subscribe right now based solely on the fact you put a timeline with timestamps in the description. Much appreciated.
Hey jack long time no chat good ole 64 damn fine saw had one for yrs loved it bit heavy but good power cut anything
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I would have gotten my saw wedged a dozen times by time I got that tree on the ground. good job.
@17:25 dude in the dozer decided he’s gonna play frogger and scootch under the fall line of that massive beast!! Haha the cajones on these guys
That sure is a cherry 064 with a hole shot I got 066s with the hole shot air cleaners. The pro safety big dogs and bars too. They don’t build like that anymore. Long live the old bushelin days. The paint ain’t even wore off the side case that’s a true gem 💎
I've not seen one of those in 15 years or more ! Good saw in there day ! Use to put an 084 carb to them with some port work runner then !
My Dad was a faller for 35 years and this folks is why they only work 6 hrs a day! Be safe !
Oh that looks like fun!!!!!
Be safe!
Aloha
Respect. Impressive work on that Cluster F.
Awesome job Jack !! .
Absolutely badass. Thanks for sharing and explaining.
Thank you, and for watching.
Awesome work Jack!!!!
Love the videos. Stay safe and strong much love
Thank you, and for watching.
That was big. Huge process. Great job
Nikolas hi. AGREED!!! A fuzz stressful to boot.... Thanks for watching.
Jesus that tree looked like one Serious work out. Good job!
Randy hi. Jesus saved the day for me here for sure. Thanks for watching.
man she'll burn a tank of gas on that cluster !!! nice work fo-sho !!! i;ve had to do the same type thing on big cluster of oak here in pa ! great vid !
Sure took long enough . Starve if I took that long.
That is just crazy! What a skillful showing of cutting and sawing! I haven’t seen anything like this on Buckin Billy Rays channel! Definitely not something I would ever attempt especially since I just started using a chainsaw and I’m almost 59
Thank you.
Probably because the guy here started falling timber professionally 35/40 years ago.
The title sums up the level that is requires and what is at stake with this operation.
Thanks for watching.
Buckin is one of the better drummers I’ve seen with a chainsaw, thanks to Wranglerstar. Jack and Bjorne are timber fallers that put the board feet on the ground!
What size pull cord do that saw require in order to crank w out breaking? I recently replace the cord on my 034 av with new. It continues to break. You think the timing may be out? Or am i using to small of diameter cord?
Jerry hi.
Hard for me to tell what size your using. Seems like there are three or four.
If the bushing in the starter cover is worn it could be causing premature wear on the cord. They haven't made that saw for quite awhile. I would be looking there 1st.
I guess it is possible to have sheered the key. Seems like if the timing is out that far you would have a "phunny" running saw.
Stihl fits some of their saws with smaller diameter ropes. Trouble is when a guy tries to up size they don't ways lay right on the spool/pulley when going through the motions of starting a saw. Back to not sure which size you are using.
You can buy the rope separately from the the ts760 cutoff saw (I think it is anyway). That is a 4.5mm rope. Still works in the elasto-start handle.
Sounds like a trip to the shop may be in order if you cannot rectify the situation.
Good luck.
@@hotsaws101 Thank you for the feed back. 👍
Jack you should do a review of your fallers pack. What you carry and what you don’t thanks for your work
That poison oak is making me itch from here !
I watched the whole thing from beginning to the end......6 feet across at the stump.....that was some fancy cutting
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i watched, too. im an old lady , so ive never used a chainsaw, but i sure liked watching......
40 minutes in and this thing still doesn't look like a bear🤣 nice setup for a grafted up puzzle like that 👍👍👍
At the 45 minute mark my brain had decided the crown was still attached to the mythical sky hook and you had forgotten to unhook it!
The "mystical" sky hook was the 4 to 6" limbs growing from the bigger one that were threaded into the smaller trees. This is commonplace on the NorCal Coast of Cali - "Commafornia".
I've jacked trees straight up and off the stump only to have them just sit there. Which is why I was using the weight of the front one hanging forward on the double. In essence leveraging the double against itself by sawing a deep face.
Thanks for watching.
Excellent workmanship!
Thank you, and for watching.
Love the go pro angle... you see what he's seeing. Notice how he spends a lot of time looking up.
Very nice work, you certainly earned your pay check today!.
How come his saw never dulls? I stick mine in that junk for 3 seconds, won't cut butter. His- forever sharp...🤨
Semi chisel chain.
Gentlemen hi. I addressed this in the beginning of the comments. Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 He said gentlemen..🙃. All kidding aside, great vids
Rakers....
Kylemaras - Teeth angles. Thanks for watching.
I love your videos my Brother in CHRIST you’re absolutely amazing and I cannot even begin to tell you how awesome it is that you give GOD the glory.
With my luck, there would be a nice rock wedged somewhere inside, and naturally, I would find it.
Ya man whene he said “I might gas up” then he started separating the crotches I was like, “he’s gotta replace his chain AND gas up. But things went smooth!!???!!
Gentlemen hi. It did hit something in the ripping operation and it was pretty straightaway. You can hear the pulsating in the chain.
Thanks for watching.
I was thinking the same thing . I own a old farm with a lot of old trees ,a lot of harvesting. Had a big double ,found the all thread they had used 50 years ago to keep them together. Ruined that chain this guy is a real pro but I would not have walked in front of it so much .
Nice! Way to recover some value from that mess.
big east coast pine grows like that sometimes. there only 4-5 feet around and 130-140 high. but same thing. saw down the middle to seperate . face cut all. smallest hinge i can. send them all at once. when you bore and plunge big oak most day. it makes the middle pine easier . in not a great cutter like you. but i get lucky sometimes. , i always laugh at guys that cut really high making it hard. instead of just separating the trees. .. great job
How would the 481 torque monster stack up against that 064 because that saw rips
Kenneth hi. I ran a customers 461 against this 064 last winter and posted the video. They run about the same. The early (mine) 064s had some limitations flow wise. I upgraded it since then and added a factory BB to it but did not get to crazy since the 064 has around 3 million under it's belt. I have not ran it against my Torquer 461 yet.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 that 064 is a freakn beast. So impressed with saw and you for not killing yourself But, that's why you're a professional. An inexperienced cutter might have had a different outcome.
Wow, Mr.Jack, I respectfully say this was tremendous. I originally was going to watch 10 min and stop but I road it til the end! Ah ha. Amazing the work the 046, (correction, 064, bit of a differance, ah ha), Stihl put out, chain stayed seemingly sharp after alot of stuff. The chunks you were pulling out, the wedges,.. amazing. . Looking back, would you have cut it differantly? Could you have just made a huge wedge and dropped it with a back cut, classic traditionally, or did you see the large vertical cuts as allowing the trunks to pop apart at ground impact. I know, you did it for a reason, just trying to understand it better, great job. Extrordinary video that had me gripped. "Big Timber on the ground".
Sorry for the mispells, what else,.. love to get some more post cut feedback on the approach, fantastic work, good job keeping an eye on things.
Looks like there was a pretty good spiders Web nest in there. My Brother Wayne got a Brown Recluse bite up high in a tree, bad deal, kind of ruined the rest of the day and days thereafter. . I was a baby at the time, but I heard the story a few times growing up, those bites are destructive to living tissue, post bite complications, enough of that..
Really something this video.
Thanks for making and Hello all from Alaska.
Wow..
John hi. Hit something pretty close to the start of 1st rip cut - the pulsating can be heard. No. I went into a little further in the middle of the pinned comment. Thanks for watching.
Thanks, I Remember You Measuring 6ft., at the base, in the video, if I remember correctly, I was thinking 4. Big Timber!.. I never seen anything like that, that tree hanging up there like that..
I could see the guys looking at that tree system, early in the game, ...."Better have Jack do this one".
That 064 kicked some butt.
Thanks for your Time.
That was a gnarly tree
What oil u running
Great video Be safe.
You were closer to meeting Jesus than anyone could be. Brave and talented. Sweeping the pieces out gave me chills! Best performed by a real professional and also good to have your guardian angel with you. Near the end the chips or rot your saw was going through increased my anxiety for you. Well done, Sir!
I thought the same thing when you reached his whole arm in there to sweep out that piece! I don't think that was skill though; just not smart. He could have used his axe! I watched him make those cuts to separate those trees vertically! Not smart at all.
Thank you, Keith.
And for watching.
That was scary, kept expecting a horror movie scene every time you put your hands & arms in to clean the debris. 2 ft. diameter is pretty much my limit on easy, mostly straight up trees. & that was years ago when I was much younger & able to exit stage left in a hurry.
Very informative and impressive Mr Jack. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and first hand experience!!!!!
Thank you, and for watching.
You should do a video on grinding chain.
Jack, why do you place your ax in the kerf when cutting out the undercut?
I may be wrong but i have seen him do that before so if the tree moves the axe will fall out...........
@@jdean9797 Yes, that would make sense. I understand why he places the ax in the backcut sometimes. The undercut situation was new.
I think he spoke of this in his description, multiple trees, the ax acts as an indicator of movement if a tree brakes loose or moves.
@@Brian2bears - "Yah, what he said", lol.
Enjoyed this video as I’ve cut hundreds of trees in my time. Watched it in bout 4 shifts. 🤣
nicely done gentamen
One ugly cluster there. Nice execution on a hard job!
I sometimes wonder when foresters mark trees like that and include a leave tree in the mess if they think the leave tree is more valuable then the faller who draws it
Logjammin hahahaha I’ll remember this next time I lay out harvest units 😂
Robert Plant hahahahaha! My luck I’ll be the one that gets the gem!
@@robertplant9694 why do you mark trees who's only lay is across the property line?
Theodore Dowman I don’t
@@robertplant9694 I've cut a lot of tracts where they did.
good ole 64 what a nice powersaw!
The work of a master, my compliments sir
Thank you, and for watching.
What a task! Were these some very old Red Cedar or Hemlock that decided to grow together?
orgcoast hi. Redwood trees here. Thanks for watching.
That was cool to watch thats for sure
Good job!!
That was bad ace Jack! I have to agree with others that you are, one of if not the best precision and or technical timber fallers of the TH-cam world. With the advance 'warning, warning' in the title one could argue the afore mentioned statement with having the leader cut off and hanging on #2. But Silvey was hanging out in the refreshments section of the side lines with gas, oil, Sprite²0, and the nose bag, so it isn't like you aren't prepared out to "plan Q" (which is an odd thought of potential as to what this might look like but I also feel like you've sold off every saw and saw part by the time you have to employ or deploy "plan Q"......) when you would have noticed the program has taken a turn out of favor. So I know my pea brain has missed A LOT in observation to this point but let's take 4000 feet of boards HANGING off the back counterpart..........how many backpack sets of Silvey does it take to get that out of there as a single to be "safer" than taking as a pair? I'm not a professional anything nor in this profession to know what 'about' 4000 board feet of red weighs in at, but three 20s and a 40 to the break and 28" still on the skinny end has gotta be a log truck load give or take so we'll estimate 40 ton of bound up red hangin out as the leader in this scenario for ease of my mental facilities lmao! What I'm leading up to here is I think this is one of the longest videos I think that you've posted Jack, and I was glad to see the entire process as an example of the time it takes at one's own pace for this to develope into the plan under the bump hat. I got a kick out of "I'm not super happy with this side yet" after Chris came over to take in the show, because I could just hear the office chair cutters exhale with disgust as the earth jolted with the rolling of their eyes lmao........hey people, it takes as long as it takes for a man (and not singularly Jack in this phrase, it's for everyone who cuts a tree) to be good, or happy with their face cut before lighting the fuse that is the back cut. They're the one gonna get bit by it so let em to their respective work. Now that I've pecked out a dang book here, I'll leave you're eyes and ears to slow of bleeding and bid you safe cuttin and thank you for sharing this and the ought-64 in the lead role. Hope all are healthy with you and yours Jack
Woos31 hi. I cannot say I'm much different than anyone else. He just gave me a certain type of thought process and then He put in an industry that it would/could be pushed, tested, developed.
That maneuver is not recommend to ANYONE, EVER. There is a title in the pinned comments where one peels off prematurely - Run Forrest, RUN...
I'm a simpleton. This was Plan A. If the front one peeled of and I lived to tell, then I would have had to jack the back tree's limbs through the leave trees. That would have been plan B.
There was ~ 12,000 that I scaled in the two stems to 100'. Two chunks Chris gobbled up before I could get to them - chaser phun… I think the "small one" had ~ 4800/5 or so in it standing. Regardless, a lot of weight to be just hanging around. A normal truck weighs ~ 40 tons to be legal. But trucks have some mass to them. Maybe 10/12/15 tons depending on the frame rail thickness, axles, engine, wheels etc. I get your drift though. Somewhere around 50,000 pounds hanging out in outer space.
You have to be a little careful with backpack sets of Silvey's lest you jack one off the hinge. At that point you'd have areal mess on your hands.....
The bigger tree had 4/6 limbs. Only one entangled in the leave clump sometimes is a problem child.
I fell a few trees in here that were ~ 10k in scaled volume. There were 4 log loads - only because I had to buck them down so the loader could pick the logs up. There are a number of 3 log load potentials in this area. I think they were getting 5/6 thousand on a load because these log scaled up nicely.
In order to save as much of the volume as possible, I needed these trees to do a certain thing at a certain time and they had to blow through a few other trees. Already said this in the comments, I'll adjust the face 5700 times if I think it will help get me what I'm after. This comes from the days of felling trees with 25, 50, even 80,000 B.F. in them.
I addressed the arm chair awesomeness in the pinned comment.
There is a video title of one of these operations where the front tree did not hold on in the pinned comment. Also, more refinement on some of what was going on whilst I was cutting on the face.
Thanks for watching.
How long can 1 person play with a tree.
Apparently as long as it takes to stay alive/avoid becoming a quadriplegic.
@@ronaldwilkins6056 this was 2 years ago i made this comment. YOUR RIGHT UP TO DATE . ON TOP OF IT.
@@muztbnutz4306 sorry dogg, I wasn't aware that an answer to your question was time sensitive.
I appreciate this response. Way to deal with the "know-everything's".
I've said for years: Those that know will make the appropriate comment/s. Those that don't will also make the appropriate "stick their feet in their mouths" notation. Exposing to the knowing world, their ignorance.
Seems, and it's unfortunate, to more of the latter on this particular video...
Thanks for watching as well.
i didnt think it would take an hour to fell one tree, I see how dangerous that tree was tho. Cool video
I didn't think it would take an hour either think his chain needs to be sharpened some good job though
That was an impressive cut, I am glad it ended safely. Was that a lightening strike exit wound at the base of that tree? Was wondering if those create dangerous situations when felling trees that have evidence of massive strikes. Nicely done & stay safe.
Paleo Man hi.
It started life as at least a triple. The middle one was out nutritioned but the two we saw in the video.
They can be rotten in the hinge sometimes. That makes the process a little more interesting...
Especially if a guy needs a certain thing to happen on the stump and the decay is right where you have to put the hinge to accomplish the goal. Seen that more times than I can count.
If the rot is not in the hinge then it's just de-dock once the scaler get the pencil involved.
I have nuked some trees that were nailed by lightning. Most of the time the travel path is on the outside or it blows one of the tops out if the tree is a marm. Then travels down. Sometimes the path spirals down. Sometimes it blows the tree internally and it a shell. Sometimes it just plain wastes the tree.
I don't think there is a standard outcome on a lightning struck tree.
Figuring out what you have left to work with and then making the right moves is the interesting part.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 Thank you for your reply. As always stay safe & take care.
Good job 👍
What the flip was that driver doing, either brave or 'stoopid' Well done Jack awesome job, stay safe.
Hassle68 hi. Chris fells trees some of the time. He pays attention. Bit of a DangerCat like myself though.... Thanks for watching.
Damn that’s one hell of a tree! Nerves of steel my friend 👍
Loggers used to use dynamite for good reasons. Would have been epic!
Beutiful work. I hope your boss has a youngen found, just to follow you around and learn some tricks. So they can grow old
Fine job Jack
Folks: Don’t try this at home! I got nervous just watching! This guy is a pro.
Scott Schaeffer yeah he is pro my s
I am a honeysucle digger of the roots. Enjoy your video of you enjoying your day
Why was this tree cut again....?
Seeing how complicated felling trees with mother equipments you wonder what hard times Stone Age men had in felling trees to make canues
Nice job Jack
Thank you. And for watching.
Better than any movie and as real as life itself. Is it prying to ask what is original on this 064?
B2B hi. I addressed this in the pinned comment. Thanks for watching.
Awesome!
Dude it’s like watching a Jedi take down a tree! Amazing to watch when you’re not from that part of the world. That bar oil looks thin; what is it? Also just out of curiosity what mix oil do you run? I may send you my 440.
TBE hi. Cannot remember. This was on October 2017. I blend my own.
My email address is in the description. Thanks for watching.
Never would i stick my hand in that drop hammer waiting to drop. Finally the back cut.
At a 1000 per 1000 delivered that was time well spent.
Kyle hi. I revisited this in the beginning comment. Thanks for watching.
Great job
the only other person I've seen breaking out a Stihl 064 is Gordy over on Westcoast Saws. I think he done a rebuild or repair for someone and was putting it to the test on falling some big trees.
Are you using a 32 or 36"? I noticed you have a full skip chain on it. are you using a 0.063/3/8"? Just curious! I don't think I've ever see 3 trees grow up together like that. What an odd setting!
115 drivers .375. So technically it's a 34.5" bar.
Redwood Country. Commonplace.
Do you run .063 bars or .050
I hope he answers this in Faller's Corner some day myself. And a long discourse on light-weight bars.
Be willing to bet .063
Dude's a friggin artist
Can't imagine doing this with buck saws.