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You probably didnt tell him the parts left out of the Vox and every other lazy media piece. That we never took a photo of a black hole and the image you see is one of several possible models generated by a algorithm based on data from slices of the actual object taken by the telescopes. That their actual paper literally presents several possible computer generated models.
If they said it was taken 68 mil light years away, would you go full skeptic mode and realize its a lie? Nope. These people can literally tell you anything now and you will believe it.
Now am like:but its 54 million light years so we need 54 million light years to take it:and that black hole may have died or moved but just because its 54 light years away.so we see it how it looked 54 mil years before
@@kapekape7580 Black holes take a long time to die. And when i say long i mean a REALLY LONG time. That black hole is still running like it was 54 million years ago i can guarantee you that
Black holes DO NOT EXIST,nasa are the biggest liars in america everything they show you is fake,THEY have no clue their about to die along with 90% of america,LISTEN TO GODS PROPHETS if you want to hear the truth,OR ask him your self,hes listening....
It's amazing how we're looking at an image 54 million years into the past. Even though the waves are travelling at the speed of light it takes so long to get here. And this is just in our galaxy. Shows how lonely you are in this vast universe.
I think that one showed in the video is m87 (supermassive black hole from center of the Messier 87 galaxy, which indeed is 54 million years into the past ). They got picture of our own supermassive black hole Sagittarius A, and that one is about 25,000 years in the past.
This is not in our galaxy, nor anywhere near it. It is around 27 times further away then the andromeda galaxy, which itself is over 2 million light years away. It is the super massive black hole at the center of Messier 87, an extremely large and luminous elliptical galaxy in the virgo cluster. Using the same techinques, we may be able to take a more detailed picture of andromeda's (M31) super-massive black hole, but I am not really well educated on what was needed to take a pic of M87.
The milky way is not 54 million light years across. This image is the supermassive black hole from M87 which is nearly 2000 times more massive than our own and 25 billion miles across, and actually produced a clearer image than the one at the centre of our galaxy despite being "only" 25000 ly away.
Within the last 5 years humans have discovered gravitational waves and captured the first picture of a black hole... I can only imagine what the next *50 years* holds
Higgs Boson (2012), gravitational waves, black hole image, in just 7 years.... think just 10 years ahead, no 50, the science is going faster and faster every time.
@@cheesywiz9443 The man (Rip Al) did his homework/math. The math checked out, the man had faith his mathing. Not to say it was amazing, but dont blow it out of porportion
So Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity which he formulated almost a century ago holds true today. How can you not like this or be amazed or marvel at this breakthrough
Actually most of his theories have been shown to be incorrect especially relativity. Basically we need to remember math does not equal science and any equation using "C" has been disproved mathematically since science has proven it is not a constant.
@@bayonet71 Another day went by and another person on the Internet said that Einstein was wrong. You are a genius while the General Relativity Passes Another Test
@@DuyNguyen-sg7pw wka eup this is not an opinion check the science journals etc. ALL of the theories have been debunked by science...the math was wrong
@@caminho7340 since when? You should know that what is the problem, is the fact that most people do not want to put effort into actually knowledge. They expect it to be easy and quick! Even I was accepted into Yale university but I refused them. Due to facts of not believing higher education was the answer when it wasn't for me. I own a business and have had it running for 8 years now! With only a high school diploma.
@@yungpaleontologist7409 Oh, yeah. 54 million light years from us. Now I realize how far that thing is.... not. No human mind can fathom such a distance. We can barely accurately conceptualize and imagine a few thousand miles. We have no way of comprehending such a distance as even 1 light year, let alone 54 million light years. All we understand is that it's really, really, really, really, really x billion far away from us.
Greatest mystery that we know of. That’s what’s so great about the universe, we can barely figure out about where we are, so imagine what we don’t know.
Well, you’re really just seeing it’s event horizon. Also, not trying to be a buzz kill but, the coloring actually isn’t there if you saw it in person. The color is based on a number of variables that allow the computer to best render what it would ideally look like.
mMeister_5 1000 people on this planet believe the earth is flat, and you morons bring them up every 5 seconds anytime science or space or geography come up. They exist and stay existing, because of people like you
My highschool physics teacher cried when she saw that image for the first time. Her husband died years ago and his passion was astrophysics and all that stuff, she told us that he used to say that one day they would write an astrophysics book together.
At 3:00 to 3:05: "We can see their finger prints, but we did not have their mugshots". I can not imagine a more elegant explanation than that. Keep up the good work.
Humanity's first image of a black hole isn't crisp and beautiful like the illustrations or the movie Interstellar. *_It's better._* gave me some major goosebumps
@@Kewtopia That's abit different as the camera's sensor is photosensitive. When light photons are collected in the photosites a tiny electrical charge is produced. Just like phone calls taking sound vibration and turning it into an electrical charge. This is taking raw data as in dots on a piece of paper and then getting an artist to render it into a picture of what they think it would look like. Just like any images of the milkyway or any galaxy the telescope doesnt actually show these images just records data and artist produce the image. We havnt even got a telescope powerful enough to look up at the first moon landings rovers and flags on the moon. 🤣
@winomagnet Of course there had to be an idiotic response :/ .. Stephen used a speech generating computer. He expressed so much through it. Hearing all his excitement, even though SGD, would've been very moving
The matter around the black hole is just orbiting around it, retreating side on top, and the part that's coming toward us is the bottom, there is not a lot of stuff that's flinging toward us, it's just orbiting around the black hole. And just to be clear, the black hole is definitely not coming toward us, atleast not at the speed of light.
Truely an image that'll be in school books in the next couple of years and will be a quiz of what date it was revealed it was revealed April 10th, 2019
That’s actually mind boggling to ponder, that this event is legit a scientific discovery for the ages, such as the creation of electricity or television. It’s like landing in the moon all over again but better, this date will enter history books and will be referenced as the first image in human history of a black hole. This is what those people felt like witnessing the moon landing.
@@mmohon93 yes instead of millions billions into war why not space and technology and natural medicine if we were all on one mission we could do anything
@@gavintoussaint3237 you're missing the point. It's obviously not smart in today's world. but it's far more practical for humanity than spending billions just to kill each other rather than evolve ourselves
BlueFluffyPenguin exactly what I was thinking honestly. I’ve seen tons of videos and posts about how it’s been formed but none explaining why it’s such a big deal as of yet
They explained at the beginning why black hole is such a big deal because it comes from Einstein theory of General Relativity. This photo just means that they prove the old dude theory is right and that added further explaination of our galaxy and its gravity. Coz for centuries, all the black hole photos that exist in books and internet are just mere illustration and this is the first real photo of a black hole, though its blurred. You can watch this video here for further explaination: th-cam.com/video/lRI9ZUs0BXY/w-d-xo.html
the clearness is dictated by the radius of your furthest telescopes. So the way it will get clearer is using radio telescopes in orbit which brings its own set of complications.
peter green the event horizon isn’t an object, it’s just where the gravity of the singularity is so powerful it traps light, this means that the light can never reach us which is why it looks black.
It’s just heartbreaking that Stephen Hawking, someone who worked so extensively in the field of astrophysics (especially black holes), never got to see this photo.
I love how people say, this is a crap photo. Just imagine you are on space station and trying to take photo of a single ant at sea level. That's a understatement too. If that camera pointing at Earth, it probably could see the pore on your face.
Aayush Garg do you even know what telescopes and microscopes are?? Microscopes let us see stuff VERY up close and personal. Telescopes look up into space. The ones we see and use are not professional. The ones scientists use are professional.
Savannah Kennedy hun, this is a major breakthrough in science. And you complain it’s too blurry? You do realize that this is the only real photo of a black hole.
@@entrapy6378 To be fair quantum physics often doesn't make same sense as standard physics. And if he made those claims based on math remember he calculated/proved things by hand. So I can see how he could be sceptical of it.
Einstein's theory breaks down on the event horizon... nothing moves faster than the speed of light, so therefore if his theory is based off this fact, and the black hole moves faster than everything that stems off his theory is wrong, he was a genius tho
There is something highly inspirational about a group of telescopes working in unison around the world to better improve our understanding of the Universe. This is humanity at its best and we should always strive for this, especially after so many negative events in 2020...
ITS FAKE,thats why its blurry,THE HUBBLE takes crystal clear pictures,but you'll Never get to see any of them,hahaha THEIR ALL of the NIBIRU MINI SOLAR SYSTEM that about to cross our path,and KILL haft the people on earth..AND these DEVILS who call themselves SCIENTISTS won't warn you either...
With math, no less. Always blows my mind that so many discoveries we've now observed were originally hypothesized with math. Really makes me wonder about the whole "everything is a hologram" math problem they've been working on since the 70s.
@Objective Realist thats how things work.i think u lack imagination.because first u suspect by the given data and create an imagination that it might be this way.then u go on proving it.thats how brilliant inventions,discoveries work.without proposing any thought u cant work on it
and to think that image is actually the image of the black hole 54 million years ago, before humans even existed, is just crazy, it's like a time machine
I Am An Adult its actually quite close. Hubble has imaged galaxies that are over 10 billion light years away, WAY before the Earth even existed, before the milky way even existed. Space is impossibly huge.
Yet, unlike what the video description mentions, the photons aren't 54 million years old, because they never experienced a moment of time, traveling at that speed.
Isaac C. Well....the photons were created or emitted 54 million years ago, and have been traveling for that length of time, as we perceive it. Anything moving at the speed of light, time stops. So far, only light that we know of does this.
95% of the ocean and 99% of the ocean floor is unexplored and some remote places on land have still not been throughly explored. There is still plenty on earth to discover, there has been 10 new mammals discovered in the last 10 years and in 2015 alone 1,351 new species of sea life were discovered.
@@BMW_nation Even your eyes and brain need a few nanoseconds to process the light, so no matter how close something is, everything you see is in the past.
HUNGRY SHARK basically the distance is so far that the light that reaches us is considered to be in the past. A lot of the stars you see in the sky in fact are dead and don’t produce light any more. What you see now is the light that the star once produced and is making its way towards us. Hard concept to grasp but it really puts things into perspective.
Well it’s a shame that no one can outrun death. That’s something that science cannot stop. As clever as scientists may be they still have flaws. And I’m not talking about scientific flaws.
Aliens are real the government even said they are working with them but no ones talking about and the whole universe there’s prob like thousands of different kinds
There are so many people who worked their whole lives to get us to this point that will never get to see this. This is truly amazing! Their work was not in vain.
Why this black hole photo is such a big deal Video: explains it in 6 minutes Me: Because I used to think that blackholes are too theoretical to really exist.
but really before this photo we had thousands of proofs that black holes do actually exist, so no, that's not the main reason why this is so important...
Was this image taken as a whole / single image or is it a picture that has been properly adjusted and depicted with different images from those different places?
They didn't literally take a photo of it but they needed a freaking *supercomputer* working with 8 massive telescopes and insane luck for months to do this. YET I THOUGHT MY PHYSICS CLASS WAS HARD
That's the point - artist's interpretations are based off the predictions of General Relativity. The fact that it looks exactly as General Relativity predicts is more evidence proving General Relativity is true.
whats the difference between theoretical science and religion ? none, they both put their faith in something they cant see / feel. The only advantage one side has is they had tv to enhance the brainwashing.
Do you like,, have people hired or do you share accounts with others? I see you everywhere and you commented this a year later too.. are you working for the government.
@Objective Realist "Gas balls don't burn in a vacuum" What are you referring to? Suns? Comets ? Suns burn via nuclear fusion, not combustion. And comets don't burn at all, they melt. I know that this can be hard to understand, but you should probably study things before dismissing them.
Actually Einstein suffered from whats called uncombable hair syndrome, he wasn't a mad scientist, his hair just would return to whatever we see in photos of him after he'd comb it. Google it :P
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I showed the image to my grandfather minutes before his passing as he loved everything about space
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You probably didnt tell him the parts left out of the Vox and every other lazy media piece. That we never took a photo of a black hole and the image you see is one of several possible models generated by a algorithm based on data from slices of the actual object taken by the telescopes. That their actual paper literally presents several possible computer generated models.
@@zeitgeistx5239 that is like saying a panoramic photo isn't an actual photo because it is just several photos stitched together by software.
Felt kinda cute in this pic, might cause the collision of two galaxies later idk
Oh..That's where you went when you dissapeard after Vader touched you
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Light: just chillin
Black hole: no
why and how did this make me laugh
JustCheezey the art of jokes.
All matters: just chillin
Black hole: no
Lmao
Funniest thing I have seen all day
stop complaining about the pixel, remember this pic came from 54mil light years away and my phone takes a pic of the same pixel from 5m away
If they said it was taken 68 mil light years away, would you go full skeptic mode and realize its a lie? Nope. These people can literally tell you anything now and you will believe it.
Now am like:but its 54 million light years so we need 54 million light years to take it:and that black hole may have died or moved but just because its 54 light years away.so we see it how it looked 54 mil years before
@@kapekape7580 Black holes take a long time to die. And when i say long i mean a REALLY LONG time. That black hole is still running like it was 54 million years ago i can guarantee you that
Will earth go bye bye because of black hole
@@noahboucher54 no
Truely an image that'll be in school books in the next couple of years and will be a quiz of what date it was revealed. April 10th, 2019
Now imagine if they released this photo in April 1st. Will anyone believe?
@@techwizpc4484 lmao
Doubt it
Schools need to change we have had the same subjects for 200 years and schools still use books that are 20 years old
10-04-2019 the day i felt unwell and still had to work, i will remember this day :')
I think black holes are "too small or too far away" is a good thing, I feel more secure when those things are not close nor big.
Even if they are small and near us. We will all die. Have a lovely life!
Even a tiny blackhole could destroy our earth!!!!
99% of space is empty. Don't worry pal, you're good.
Patrik Drk dats y space called space! But there’s dark matter
then what the heck is a supermassive blackhole?? are they not as big as i think they are
Have you noticed the smile on the guy's face in the last shot? That's the result of a lifetime work. Amazing.
No, but I noticed the smile on the black hole
Yes, really appreciate their work 👏👏👏
Not quite sure if it was a smile coz the image was blurry
He’s just a crappy journalist
Mauricio Mochon aaahh a true humane 😊
Black Hole: * Exist *
Meme pages: why is it so blurry?
Meme pages are full of people who know nothing about astronomy it seems
@@Synrune or are just having fun? did you consider that possibility
@@shefchenko111 i'm talking about the people who are actually serious about it. Obviously there's people who are just joking and know why
Black holes DO NOT EXIST,nasa are the biggest liars in america everything they show you is fake,THEY have no clue their about to die along with 90% of america,LISTEN TO GODS PROPHETS if you want to hear the truth,OR ask him your self,hes listening....
@@thomasjefferson4492 yeah of course prophets will answer...
It's amazing how we're looking at an image 54 million years into the past. Even though the waves are travelling at the speed of light it takes so long to get here. And this is just in our galaxy.
Shows how lonely you are in this vast universe.
I think that one showed in the video is m87 (supermassive black hole from center of the Messier 87 galaxy, which indeed is 54 million years into the past ). They got picture of our own supermassive black hole Sagittarius A, and that one is about 25,000 years in the past.
Stefan Andonovic when
It wasn't ours, this black hole is in another Galaxy not ours
This is not in our galaxy, nor anywhere near it. It is around 27 times further away then the andromeda galaxy, which itself is over 2 million light years away. It is the super massive black hole at the center of Messier 87, an extremely large and luminous elliptical galaxy in the virgo cluster. Using the same techinques, we may be able to take a more detailed picture of andromeda's (M31) super-massive black hole, but I am not really well educated on what was needed to take a pic of M87.
The milky way is not 54 million light years across. This image is the supermassive black hole from M87 which is nearly 2000 times more massive than our own and 25 billion miles across, and actually produced a clearer image than the one at the centre of our galaxy despite being "only" 25000 ly away.
Within the last 5 years humans have discovered gravitational waves and captured the first picture of a black hole... I can only imagine what the next *50 years* holds
Higgs Boson (2012), gravitational waves, black hole image, in just 7 years.... think just 10 years ahead, no 50, the science is going faster and faster every time.
Discovering that the entire night sky is just a universe screensaver, and we figure out how to "hit any key" to get astronomical "webpages."
Just watch Mad Max
José Mcdinosaur Mad Max is a pesimistic sci-fi, Star Trek is an optimistic sci-fi? Which one would you prefer to watch?
Flat earthers and the denial of global warming
Congratulations to everyone who works so hard for this incredible project and a huge thank you from all of us whom you have inspired.
Thank you. We worked really hard.
@@mavericks2048 did you really? If so, then kudos
Shan Hussain it was a female scientist that made all of this happened her name is katie bouman
@@mrk.8448 yes, I've read. She's just a little older than I am and she wrote the algorithm that helped coordinate all the telescopes together.
@@mrk.8448 That's some bs. They're crediting her only because she's a wamen, the rest of the team contributed much more than she did.
This is so complex omg, i am glad some people understand that, it‘s facinating
How is it complex it’s just light reaching metal disks
@@shawnharris6458 it's more than that
@@shawnharris6458 _"Its not the destination, it's the journey."_ ~Ralph Waldo Emerson
@to nurture, to give, to love There was literally no need to say that quote
@@shawnharris6458 well yes but actually no
It's just so fascinating to know that Einstein theorized and imagined this 100 years back......
ur trippin it wasnt that long ago
That's the whole point of science, creating models that make predictions.
Phil The Thot Destroyer >”it wasn’t that long ago”
Eh. 10^2 years. Same order of magnitude.
He also thought that nuclear bombs would never work....
@@cheesywiz9443 The man (Rip Al) did his homework/math. The math checked out, the man had faith his mathing. Not to say it was amazing, but dont blow it out of porportion
So Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity which he formulated almost a century ago holds true today. How can you not like this or be amazed or marvel at this breakthrough
This is false
@@GudJonnyCakes [citation needed]
Actually most of his theories have been shown to be incorrect especially relativity. Basically we need to remember math does not equal science and any equation using "C" has been disproved mathematically since science has proven it is not a constant.
@@bayonet71 Another day went by and another person on the Internet said that Einstein was wrong. You are a genius while the General Relativity Passes Another Test
@@DuyNguyen-sg7pw wka eup this is not an opinion check the science journals etc. ALL of the theories have been debunked by science...the math was wrong
They may go in to revised school books in 2020 but my school won’t buy new text books till 2030
thanks repubs
@@caminho7340 What?
@@msmeyersmd8 He probably shouldn't make it political.
@@iagreebut5157 Repubs cut education funding. If you're not rich you don't get to learn like the rest they're after funding for public schools
@@caminho7340 since when? You should know that what is the problem, is the fact that most people do not want to put effort into actually knowledge. They expect it to be easy and quick! Even I was accepted into Yale university but I refused them. Due to facts of not believing higher education was the answer when it wasn't for me. I own a business and have had it running for 8 years now! With only a high school diploma.
Light:**Travelling**
BlackHole:*NOM NOM NOM*
Basically
@@Kinobambino We live in a society
@@pompefunebri7119 basically
Pacman
Not clever
For people whose complaining about the quality of the image early on this day, do you realize how far that thing is?!
How far? Do you even know?
@@andrewericson781 I think they do say how far it is, in a report or something if I remember correctly
@@andrewericson781 its 54 million light years from us...
@@andrewericson781 oh, it says in the video, 54 mill light years away
@@yungpaleontologist7409 Oh, yeah. 54 million light years from us. Now I realize how far that thing is.... not. No human mind can fathom such a distance. We can barely accurately conceptualize and imagine a few thousand miles. We have no way of comprehending such a distance as even 1 light year, let alone 54 million light years. All we understand is that it's really, really, really, really, really x billion far away from us.
If you look _really_ close at the picture, you can see Matthew Mcconaughey riding the event horizon.
Lmao
@@anirudhsharma2961 No, this is from Messier 87.
@@ErickSoares3 Thank you for correcting. It was shared around as one in the center of our galaxy. The joke stands
wanna bet he is giving us clues right now through our bookshelves on how to solve our crisis here on earth?
alright alright brother
Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein deserved to see this
It's Ethan I’m sure they are
@@VanessaLara-wi8ck Are you stupid
bro why u calling vanessa stupid?
@@HarryWizard piss off mate, just because you don't believe in any of that doesn't mean you need to call somebody stupid.
@@HarryWizard and here come the neckbeard atheists.
Ya’ll complaining about why the picture that is 54 million light years away is blurry while we never get a clear image of a ghost
RIGHT 👏🏽
or ufo
@Spicyleaves its just a cat
Right??? Christ.
2019: we saw the first picture of a black hole
Also 2019: anti vaxxers
and Flat Earthers!
Don't worry, scientific breakthroughs like these are still leagues above those dumasses ignoring common sense, you can forget them here :))
Yeah but anti-vaxxers are a lot more prominent this year than flat earthers even though flat earthers are more relevant to the video
G Direct But the good thing is,
Anti vaxxers can be removed from the Earth naturally by natural selection.
Flat earthers can not.
Last Year Was Worse. This Year We Finally Got Kids Vaccinating Themselves
This is a picture of the way the black hole looked 54 million years ago. Mind blown.
Bill bartman truly amazing
kuku aiku yep that how light works if u Wana go that far Ur bedroom wall is in the past
ಠ_ಠ
kuku aiku was thinking the same thing
Ok
It's glorious to know I lived to see the first image of the universe's greatest mystery.
Greatest mystery that we know of. That’s what’s so great about the universe, we can barely figure out about where we are, so imagine what we don’t know.
Chris Williams the universes greatest mystery is how it will end
Well, you’re really just seeing it’s event horizon. Also, not trying to be a buzz kill but, the coloring actually isn’t there if you saw it in person. The color is based on a number of variables that allow the computer to best render what it would ideally look like.
@@ewokoniad2396 Yup Space is freaking huge...our minds cannot even comprehend the distance
gravity is also a mystery, if you think about it deeply
So...technically...that photo is 54 million years old...
that black hole might have been converted into a white hole now lol
@@tanmaychaturvedi2613 Black hole lives matter
Yep
@@tanmaychaturvedi2613 nope...Black holes take quintillions of years to collapse,and the universe is just 13.8 billion years old
@@mesinovict6316 how much is quintillions of years exactly? and how will it collapse? im genuinely fascinated hhh
Flat Earthers: “I’m not gonna say the black hole is real until I see it myself!”
Please, do that. Get *REAL* close.
mMeister_5 1000 people on this planet believe the earth is flat, and you morons bring them up every 5 seconds anytime science or space or geography come up. They exist and stay existing, because of people like you
j p relaaaaaax bro it’s a meme
@@jamesbizs lol you must be a flat earther
@@jamesbizs omg whoooooosh
I saw all the other flat earther comments and only this one is good
"Should I tell them I just took a blurry picture of a donut?"
😂
Dude!! I though the same thing 😂😂😂😂
LOL😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha and can you tell us what is the flavor?🤣
"Nah let them discover it,It is april after all ^^"
2050
Scientists: Alright let’s enhance this image.
Image: 👌🏻
Enhance!
Enhance
And Enhance they did
There will be a meme with this format in the future
Nice
My highschool physics teacher cried when she saw that image for the first time. Her husband died years ago and his passion was astrophysics and all that stuff, she told us that he used to say that one day they would write an astrophysics book together.
@Its Me 📮
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@@Justintro sus
same
Light: *exists*
Black Hole: It's Free Real Estate!
You mean... Anything that has mass
@@123youbia i bet you're fun at parties
Wouldn’t it be the other way around 👁👃👁
Old
I got it 😂😂😂
At 3:00 to 3:05: "We can see their finger prints, but we did not have their mugshots". I can not imagine a more elegant explanation than that. Keep up the good work.
*if Hawkin lived for another year, he would have seen the blackhole*
draq huffle this just hit me hard ngl
stfu this bums me out
:(
This is sad 😔
Hey dont worry, if there is an afterlife im sure Hawkin could see it from there
Humanity's first image of a black hole isn't crisp and beautiful like the illustrations or the movie Interstellar. *_It's better._*
gave me some major goosebumps
Its like the achievments of the century
@@lukhmanthufile because its real lol
Dont worry, r34 artists are doing a great job making it better
Really man, gave me real goosebumps...
Same.
*First Black Hole Picture : exists*
Internet Trolls : nasa fix ur picture its too low quality
Science: remember how fuzzy Pluto Looked? Give us a minute (and a few spacecraft!)
It's just a CGI image generated from data, not really a picture of a black hole
Ace Rockefeller Also the "pictures" you take with your phone are not real photographs, it’s data interpreted, that’s how digital cameras work.
Ace Rockefeller not surprised from a Rockefeller
@@Kewtopia That's abit different as the camera's sensor is photosensitive. When light photons are collected in the photosites a tiny electrical charge is produced. Just like phone calls taking sound vibration and turning it into an electrical charge. This is taking raw data as in dots on a piece of paper and then getting an artist to render it into a picture of what they think it would look like. Just like any images of the milkyway or any galaxy the telescope doesnt actually show these images just records data and artist produce the image. We havnt even got a telescope powerful enough to look up at the first moon landings rovers and flags on the moon. 🤣
Earth:
Black Hole: I’m bouta end this whole mans career.
Jacob R uwu backwards
Qwq
RwR
0w0
AwA
It's so bittersweet that all the great minds who used to love space, like Einstein and Hawking, missed this
I would have paid millions to have stephen hawking react to this image...sadly, you cant resurrect someone
They knew about it without ever witnessing it is how badass they were.
@winomagnet Of course there had to be an idiotic response :/ .. Stephen used a speech generating computer. He expressed so much through it. Hearing all his excitement, even though SGD, would've been very moving
@winomagnet why are you making such a big deal after the man's comment lmao
@winomagnet Shoeb was speaking figuratively- you know what, I wouldn't expect you to know. Have a nice day.
"It's brighter on the side moving towards us"
Its *w* *h* *a* *t*
assuming its going at light speed it will take 53 million years to get here, also its not going straight towards us so itll miss
@@keebler1778 we are in danger *chuckles*
@Someone 333 there is enough time for us to colonize other star systems
The matter around the black hole is just orbiting around it, retreating side on top, and the part that's coming toward us is the bottom, there is not a lot of stuff that's flinging toward us, it's just orbiting around the black hole. And just to be clear, the black hole is definitely not coming toward us, atleast not at the speed of light.
@Someone 333 don't worry the sun will swollow earth before this
Truely an image that'll be in school books in the next couple of years and will be a quiz of what date it was revealed it was revealed April 10th, 2019
Damn
That’s actually mind boggling to ponder, that this event is legit a scientific discovery for the ages, such as the creation of electricity or television. It’s like landing in the moon all over again but better, this date will enter history books and will be referenced as the first image in human history of a black hole. This is what those people felt like witnessing the moon landing.
Yea but what time zone
@@zeno7836 All your meaning = A fantastic find!
True
Why would people dislike this video it's literally a historical moment for astronomy
Flat earthers
@SFGIANTS18 DONTPANIC12 tell me why? Godamn flat earthers
Because they enjoy people who react like you do.
flat earthers. anti vaxxers. moon conpiracy theorists.
Because anything that advances us in any way as to be fake because internet..
Can we now declare the 10th of April to be the International day of the black hole?
I second this movement
@I A yes.
yes
It’s siblings day dood.
.... No thanks.
I just wish Stephen Hawking is still here to witness this with us
Yeah, and he was so close to seeing it too. Such a shame.
@@Randomuser77733 wtf?
He will feel so happy if he still alive
@@Randomuser77733 I agree, that bastard was evil.
@@valisdarkly8325 y tho
It's better because it's real. Also, clap for Einstein for theorizing this.
And it helps bring validity to Hawking’s work
@@howardbaxter2514 it's sad that both of them aren't here to see it
Einstein. Ppl still believe his crap. All stolen knowledge.
@@nimaisaren5996 evidence of your claims please?
Nimai Saren didn’t realize that Einstein had an IQ if 160 and coins figure stuff out very easily.
And random fun fact for no reason; he was Autistic!
If you listen really close while viewing the image you can hear Matthew McConaughey yelling, "MUURRRPH!"
Lit
🔥
You good sir made the best comment on the Internet om this historical day! 😂👏👏👏 And you gor yourself a new subscriber because of it.
@@lukebennet6989 Haha. Thanks, man!
HAHAHAHAHA YOU GOT ME THERE
Its truly amazing that we get to see something like this in our lifetime. Excellent video vox!
Nice profile pic 😘
@@mmohon93 yes instead of millions billions into war why not space and technology and natural medicine if we were all on one mission we could do anything
Zirael not smart
@@gavintoussaint3237 you're missing the point. It's obviously not smart in today's world. but it's far more practical for humanity than spending billions just to kill each other rather than evolve ourselves
@@mmohon93 srsly?
If Einstein is still alive he would be tearing up when he sees that photo
it would make more sense if you said stephen hawking. he is most known for his hawking radiation which is mostly related to black holes
@@why7387 yes Stephen Hawking dedicated his life to study about this, he will tear up.
I also teared up.
Yeah true..
And not only Sir Einstein, but also each and every gemstones humanity had within itself, would have surely been in tears
@@why7387 Does it make LESS sense that he speculated that Einstein would tear up?
Oh at first I read photo as Potato 😂😂
Lol 😂
Title:this is why this black hole was such a big deal
Actual title:how the black hole image was formed
BlueFluffyPenguin exactly what I was thinking honestly. I’ve seen tons of videos and posts about how it’s been formed but none explaining why it’s such a big deal as of yet
BlueFluffyPenguin, that’s why it’s such a big deal, bc it took so much work just to take a picture of something we aren’t supposed to be able to see
Josue Balderas Make sense
They explained at the beginning why black hole is such a big deal because it comes from Einstein theory of General Relativity. This photo just means that they prove the old dude theory is right and that added further explaination of our galaxy and its gravity. Coz for centuries, all the black hole photos that exist in books and internet are just mere illustration and this is the first real photo of a black hole, though its blurred. You can watch this video here for further explaination:
th-cam.com/video/lRI9ZUs0BXY/w-d-xo.html
the video did state about "theory of general relativity", in which this image could confirm it.
I don't care how blurry it is, it's a gorgeous photo. Put that on a postcard. Future images will only get clearer as our tech improves.
the clearness is dictated by the radius of your furthest telescopes. So the way it will get clearer is using radio telescopes in orbit which brings its own set of complications.
Agree, I hope I'm still alive to see it :')
@@kgtstudios4850 same, but we both know it aint happining
@@oesne8350 With the rate at which medical care is advancing, who knows when people will be alive to see things happen.
ziqi92
It's not a photo. It's a computer generated image. They tell you that in the video.
Light: I am speed
Black Hole: Hold my event horizon
(Thanks for all the likes means a lot)
Lmao 😊
Lol👽🥁👽
*Lightning Mqueen has left*
peter green the event horizon isn’t an object, it’s just where the gravity of the singularity is so powerful it traps light, this means that the light can never reach us which is why it looks black.
Hold my Cosmos
Imagine writing an equation and being able to see and visualize that it means there's something in the universe like a black hole.
Nice and terrifying.
I mean that's not really hard, that's just how science operates.
The equation doesn’t come first 🤦🏻♂️. The actual theory’s idea does. It’s impressive but not the way that you’re explaining it. Pay attention
it looks like that thing when you look at a light then close your eyes
why am I looking at the bulb and closed my eyes?
Q-cross psychedelics
Scott Sterling the Firefox logo?
I always thought eyeballs kinda looked like a small universe
@@oof8850 what if our eyeballs is a universe? What if our universe is an eyeball of some alien?
It’s just heartbreaking that Stephen Hawking, someone who worked so extensively in the field of astrophysics (especially black holes), never got to see this photo.
Tanvi Agrawal I’m sure he would be smiling today
How old are you to know about Hawking? @ Tanvi Agarwal?
@@AnimeCritical And? I'm 16 myself and I know a fair share about Stephen Hawking, the Apollo missions, etc. ?
@@AnimeCritical Why would his age matter?
ᒎᴀʜᑕᴏɪɴ - invest now! The way she wrote, it seemed like a young person wrote. And it is rather surprising for a young person to know stephen hawking.
I had a great joke about Black Holes...but it doesn't matter anymore
John Smithee nO
Ohno
*O H N O*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Nice joke! It does MATTER :D
imagine being an ant and knowing this
That's just what you are.....
Mystery Painter ????????
Ants and humans are not so different when it comes to these stuff. We are both small.
@@DominicStride compared to the universe, we're basically nothing
More like a speck of dust and still knowing this.
If only Stephen Hawking could have seen this. He would be so happy
Monkey D. Luffy what he do?
@@billybob1872 also. He dead. He basically spent his entire lifetime working on this matter, so it was truly quite a shame =(
*windows shutdown noice*
have*
He'd probably warn us about what we happen since we now know that black holes exist. It is the most powerful thing we know in this universe
Flat earthers: its cgi
All scientists: *am i a joke to you*
Satan
Flat earthers: It’s obviously CGI! Nice try!
Black Hole: *am i a joke to you? i will take you to my black hole right now. try me.*
I mean it literally says at the end that it was generated by a computer.
Yip. not all scientists tho'.
@Freako VEVO oof I was playing devils advocate. Where did I say I was a flat earther?
no one:
satan: steals comment
“Oops, I forgot to take off the lens cap!”
Last words of a scientist before angry NASA bois took matters into their own hands
Yea, no.
C'mon Patrick!
Stay Toasty
Us: Soo cool
Flat earther: hahaha nah that's just the sun with the moon in front of it.
Serious Bismuth They made it, but didn't sell it thats why we can't find it anywhere 😏
Normal people: We did it bois
Vsauce: or did we?
*HEY VSAUCE, MICHEAL HERE*
@@rtjf1755 OR IS IT?
If only Einstein was alive to witness this great discovery.
He was the first person to visualize it. Maybe more precisely than the pic we see now or the one we will take in future.
He probably is already smiling down 😌
Kiyoshi Kimura if only Steven Hawking was alive he would saw his theory become reality
Waz up waz up! I witnessed this alright!
Scientist Albert Einstein thanks for letting us know 😂😂😇😂
I love how people say, this is a crap photo. Just imagine you are on space station and trying to take photo of a single ant at sea level. That's a understatement too. If that camera pointing at Earth, it probably could see the pore on your face.
It's not a telescope. It's a microscope pointing towards the Black hole 🕳
Aayush Garg do you even know what telescopes and microscopes are??
Microscopes let us see stuff VERY up close and personal.
Telescopes look up into space.
The ones we see and use are not professional. The ones scientists use are professional.
I can make that photo with my finger and a flashlight
Savannah Kennedy hun, this is a major breakthrough in science.
And you complain it’s too blurry? You do realize that this is the only real photo of a black hole.
Darkii UwU chill dude I understand but I'm just saying I can k chill
Vox, you've over-estimated me once again.
I think I need an explanation video, for this explanation video.
😂😂😂
I can totally recommend Veritaserum's 'How to understand the image of a black hole'
Just watch kutzgarts black hole videos, they're more interesting and easier to understand
Lol
Ctfu exactly
lmao this went from history to meme in a day
yea thats gonna happen to all big events from now on
its sad
@blau not all memes are unfunny
I can sense the flat earthers ready to attack NASA again XD
Earth is not a sphere nor is it flat. It's a flying turtle with land instead of a shell.
Can't wait for Jeranism to demolish this image with his globally renowned analytical methods of 'Are you kidding me?' and 'Give me a break!' :-)
@@jamylhurtado With or without elephants, though?
I always see people complaining about flat earhers in the comments but I never actually see any flath earthers. You guys are as annoying as they are
Nikita Elizarov lmao its true those two sentences are 90% of his vids
Blackhole graviity - Hella Strong
blackhole pulls all the pixels from the image
Einstein has been a proven genius over and over the years. What. A. Legend❤️
Dont get me wrong einstein was a genius but he didnt believe in quantam mechanics so he wasnt godlike smart he was just another human
@@entrapy6378 To be fair quantum physics often doesn't make same sense as standard physics. And if he made those claims based on math remember he calculated/proved things by hand. So I can see how he could be sceptical of it.
@@entrapy6378 even inventors of quantum physics don't understand quantum mechanics...
Einstein's theory breaks down on the event horizon... nothing moves faster than the speed of light, so therefore if his theory is based off this fact, and the black hole moves faster than everything that stems off his theory is wrong, he was a genius tho
Yeah and that Howard guy is a loser lol :v
There is something highly inspirational about a group of telescopes working in unison around the world to better improve our understanding of the Universe. This is humanity at its best and we should always strive for this, especially after so many negative events in 2020...
Scientists: Here is the first ever image of a black hole!
Everyone else: Why tf is this blurry? We need a 4K quality of that!
My face is the antidote thank you for that valuable information!
My face is the antidote r/iamverysmart
Blurry glimpse of Iphone 11
@@clipplug.00 r/therewasanattempt
You can save 15 % or more on car insurance rip it got autocorrect
Scientists: Finally take a picture of a black hole, which is one of the biggest accomplishments in human history,
Internet: but why is it so blur?
ITS FAKE,thats why its blurry,THE HUBBLE takes crystal clear pictures,but you'll Never get to see any of them,hahaha THEIR ALL of the NIBIRU MINI SOLAR SYSTEM that about to cross our path,and KILL haft the people on earth..AND these DEVILS who call themselves SCIENTISTS won't warn you either...
Thomas Jefferson you are so dumb
Fight club honestly
Thomas Jefferson lol nice meme crazy
Thomas Jefferson you made two accounts and liked your own comment
Tbh that looks simple yet awesome
NASA needs more funding
But... But... But... tHe wAll...
@@shanhussain6114 🤣🤣🤣🤣
they are geting more funding
@hfdydxydxy for all the wrong reasons
+
Light : "Excuse me"
Black Hole : "I have to stop you right there"
Not clever
@@picassoboy52 ok
@@picassoboy52 ok
glory hole ?
* black hole picture exists *
meme accounts: *its free real estate*
Article 13: now you Are creating memes >:(
*The fact that Einstein predicts this years ago. damn!*
With math, no less. Always blows my mind that so many discoveries we've now observed were originally hypothesized with math. Really makes me wonder about the whole "everything is a hologram" math problem they've been working on since the 70s.
@Objective Realist It made up fr
Objective Realist WHAT IS UP WITH HUMANITY
@Objective Realist thats how things work.i think u lack imagination.because first u suspect by the given data and create an imagination that it might be this way.then u go on proving it.thats how brilliant inventions,discoveries work.without proposing any thought u cant work on it
@@secretzrevealed Lies and Deception
Gosh I love space and astronomy but I’m terrible at math :(
same. that's why I became a business man
@@n00bie96 Wait what, Business includes Math
@@xjan5647 it doesn't include calculus level of math
bojack horseman Yes it does lol, what do you think loss and profit calculations are?
@@greatcesari they are simple arithmetic operations with some statistics
I wish all governments could work together like the science community
Well we wouldn’t have governments then.
We can only wish..
Imagine if this was taken on April Fools. Wonder what would happen
Riot
Flat-Earthers be all: OMG LOOK NASA POSTED THIS ON APRIL FOOLS IT MEANS THEY THINK THIS PIC IS A JOKE TOO WHAT ELSE COULD THEY BE LYING ABOUT
furpz they would wait to reveal it the next day
@@_francisco_ Bet that is exactly what they did
@@chandleronder7544 You lose the bet. It was taken on 10th April.
and to think that image is actually the image of the black hole 54 million years ago, before humans even existed, is just crazy, it's like a time machine
I Am An Adult its actually quite close. Hubble has imaged galaxies that are over 10 billion light years away, WAY before the Earth even existed, before the milky way even existed. Space is impossibly huge.
@@Deeplycloseted435 right! I mean... Religion that!
Yet, unlike what the video description mentions, the photons aren't 54 million years old, because they never experienced a moment of time, traveling at that speed.
Isaac C. Well....the photons were created or emitted 54 million years ago, and have been traveling for that length of time, as we perceive it. Anything moving at the speed of light, time stops. So far, only light that we know of does this.
@@@Deeplycloseted435 I don't get what you said
The photo itself is beautiful, but the science behind it is so important.
the photo isnt beautiful? don't be pretentious. maybe what it stands for is beautiful, in fact it certainly is, but it's a pretty uninspiring picture.
Nate and Noah Try Life that is a beautiful quote
@1. Thou Shant Lewd Kaori
How is it a uninspiring picture?
@@Wtahc It's uninspiring for people who don't truly understand what goes into making it
1. Thou Shant Lewd Kaori and you can’t have “what it stands for” without the picture, so therefore they are intertwined
"Galaxy m87"
Don't give samsung any ideas
I was drinking water when I read this, my laptop screen is now soaking, but it was well worth it
This deserves more likes
born too late to explore the earth.
born too soon to explore the universe.
everyday is a step closer to exploring the universe.
Victor Aquino parts of the earth are still undiscovered but go off
Whatever. I just need some new life form to take me away to their planet..... before earth really goes to hell 😂
okay dog
But born just in time to explore the internet
95% of the ocean and 99% of the ocean floor is unexplored and some remote places on land have still not been throughly explored. There is still plenty on earth to discover, there has been 10 new mammals discovered in the last 10 years and in 2015 alone 1,351 new species of sea life were discovered.
Scientific community: *finds out the first real image of a black hole*
The internet: *this joke*
Ive seen plenty of black holes in my life! If you know what I mean...
@@vicenteDLH34 wtf
@@vicenteDLH34 wtf
@@vicenteDLH34 wtf
@@vicenteDLH34 wtf
The telescopes danced in unison...well, what a wonderful world
ikr
This made me tear up a bit. It's almost poetic what we can still find out working as one. Its beautiful.
Taking A Picture of black hole,
*Storage Full, please Free Some space and Try Again**
That one was actually good😂😂😂😂😂
xD
🤣🤣🤣
Dark SoulGamingTM omfg I died laughing thanks to this
I hate it when that happens...
I'm sad that Stephen Hawking couldn't see it
Don't be.
I'm sad that Stevie Wonder can't see it as well
And freddie mercury
Don’t forget Stephen Hillenburg
Or Stan Lee
Can you just imagine that everything you see in Space is like literally in the past.Even the image of the sun is 8 minutes in the past...
Yes even what you see on earth...
@@AD-jq7ow I guess so cause of the time it takes for light to travel
@@BMW_nation Even your eyes and brain need a few nanoseconds to process the light, so no matter how close something is, everything you see is in the past.
What do you mean by that
HUNGRY SHARK basically the distance is so far that the light that reaches us is considered to be in the past. A lot of the stars you see in the sky in fact are dead and don’t produce light any more. What you see now is the light that the star once produced and is making its way towards us. Hard concept to grasp but it really puts things into perspective.
Scientists have my utmost respect in this entire world, i wish those who contributed knowledge to us wouldve had a chance to see this happen.
Well it’s a shame that no one can outrun death. That’s something that science cannot stop. As clever as scientists may be they still have flaws. And I’m not talking about scientific flaws.
Literally an event going to be in textbooks and here we are making it a huge meme. ;)
Krispz it’s been done a million times already tho
@@et9023t Indeed
I'm sure people were cracking jokes at pubs when we landed on the moon too.
They just don’t understand the gravity of the situation
I mean what else Is there to do? Celebrate a scientific breakthrough !?
Patiently waits for the discovery of aliens.
Thanos is waiting too.
The government would probably just hide it from us, like they are doing now.
@@rosahorse No. I mean I wanna believe in aliens just as much as the next guy, but saying the government is hiding them is beyond crazy.
Aliens are real the government even said they are working with them but no ones talking about and the whole universe there’s prob like thousands of different kinds
I don’t think the government can be trusted...
There are so many people who worked their whole lives to get us to this point that will never get to see this. This is truly amazing! Their work was not in vain.
All created with photoshop. This is nothing more than a computerized, CGI rendered image. Sorry to disappoint all of you sheeple!
Why this black hole photo is such a big deal
Video: explains it in 6 minutes
Me: Because I used to think that blackholes are too theoretical to really exist.
but really before this photo we had thousands of proofs that black holes do actually exist, so no, that's not the main reason why this is so important...
Dani Perez Madrid r/woooosh ???
@@s3a.w The guy removed all his comments, what did he say? pretty curious, if you still remember
Was this image taken as a whole / single image or is it a picture that has been properly adjusted and depicted with different images from those different places?
@@samdupdorjee8266 I think different images of it have been stitched together
Humans: we found you bad boy💪
Black hole; yeah; about 54 million years ago🔥💥
So u saying that what we see is not exist yet?? (Sorry im not good with science 😅)
@@hanna_no who knows it exists or not , anyway this is science and rely on scientists why they reveal☺
@@hanna_no it means that what we see is the black hole,but 54 billion years ago
millions*
it should be
Black hole: Yeah, only took you 54 million years....
I don’t think u guys understand the Gravity of the situation
My gravity already failed to understand this situation
Underrated
@@bokchoiyoman
Give it some time mate this comment was just 5 hrs ago
XD
sanjeev dandin I don’t think I want to.
They didn't literally take a photo of it but they needed a freaking *supercomputer* working with 8 massive telescopes and insane luck for months to do this.
YET I THOUGHT MY PHYSICS CLASS WAS HARD
They had to process over 5 million gigabytes of information
@@DR-fc1ey or, more easily, 5 exabytes
5 petabytes
@@kiyan2157 about 15 pedobytes
0v0 Dashawn around 10 metabytes
"so that's why it's real." Made me chuckle. Amazing work by all the teams involved. Flatearthers, take note.
That’s just a zoomed picture of snoop doggs blunt.
OLDEENGLISH931 I saw this on reddit
😂😂😂
lol i know it from fb
Hahahahaha
Was on Instagram
It's actually not too far off of artists' interpretations of what black holes may look like
That's the point - artist's interpretations are based off the predictions of General Relativity. The fact that it looks exactly as General Relativity predicts is more evidence proving General Relativity is true.
@@IgnisDomini97 Einstein would be proud that there's solid evidence of his theory
@@titan133760 he was a god
whats the difference between theoretical science and religion ? none, they both put their faith in something they cant see / feel. The only advantage one side has is they had tv to enhance the brainwashing.
@@sergiolandz6056 theorical science have maths
**accidentally deletes photo**
"Oops"
You're fired.
With a gun
@@khaledeid260 lol
Noooo what have you done
IOS: hold my beer
**goes to recently deleted**
The place of infinite density
Ray Mak ah we meet again the most active person
@@sidsucksatplaying he literally pays whole city in China just to comment on each video 😂
you again?
Do you like,, have people hired or do you share accounts with others? I see you everywhere and you commented this a year later too.. are you working for the government.
Hello there
dang this update is awesome, I hope they add worm holes in the next update.
Nathelius Your so funny
Worm holes are just theories
Ankush Nautiyal A black hole was also a theory
Bucky Vader
True
Pretty sure wormholes are a fictional concept
Is anyone else scared of space? Like how massive it is and how incredibly tiny you are in comparison?
*terrifying*
@Objective Realist so you're saying space doesn't exist? L o l
@@ninototo1lol hey man dont mess with thisguy i hv seen him on every comment writing dumb things.u will be wasting ur tym talking to him.
@Objective Realist
"Gas balls don't burn in a vacuum"
What are you referring to? Suns? Comets ? Suns burn via nuclear fusion, not combustion. And comets don't burn at all, they melt.
I know that this can be hard to understand, but you should probably study things before dismissing them.
@Objective Realist sounds like alot of religions humans created huh?
No, it’s nature. Get used to it
Einstein might actually comb his hair today knowing he was right
Actually Einstein suffered from whats called uncombable hair syndrome, he wasn't a mad scientist, his hair just would return to whatever we see in photos of him after he'd comb it. Google it :P
@@marcinbudzinski3106 *its like the word joke doesnt even exist anymore*
i bet he had an even better picture of a black hole in his mind which we would discover a thousand years later
@@marcinbudzinski3106 r/woosh
Marcin Budzinski you sure would be fun in parties