The MOST IMPORTANT iRacing Oval Technique
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In my guides... THE CAR TURNS HERE! Hit the gas!!!
I never thought of that mid corner feel as being the weight shift…so much makes sense now! 😅
This is why I still watch these videos! Even as a seasoned racer, I still learn new things from time to time that seem to make huge improvements in my racecraft. Thanks for another great video!
I've been playing racing games since GT2 in the early 2000's and have slept on NASCAR and oval racing the entire time. There is so much finesse to driving an oval, way more than a road course, and I'm shocked I've never given NASCAR/ovals a chance up until now.
same. so much goes Into it. its not just turning left
The best car to practice this technique in is the Modifieds. So much grip. Most tracks, you don't even need the brakes. Which is why they're perfect to practice this. You will learn the difference the balance of the car on entry makes straight away. It's also where you'll see a ridiculous benefit in races. I won something like 7/10 modified races I've ever done on iRacing. Some would say it was just by "being faster" but THIS technique was the difference. Back in 2015 I won SOOO many Arca/K&N races by massively saving the tires, and then blitzing whoever got by me. I was only able to save the tires to such a degree without losing so much pace by using this technique. This video is well researched and if you're already a proficient driver, mastering this technique will give you a massive leg up.
I will watch the yellow line, it will creep left as you go into the corner, as soon as it starts to move to the right in your windshield, thats when you hit the gas. Easy visual cue.
Excellent video and the final remark on the why of trail-braking also is hugely important.
I feel this is something where spending a bit more time in Rookies or D Street Stock would really payoff. Most people (including myself) rushed through these series but the Cup/Xfinity cars go to a lot of tracks where you can get away with not concerning yourself over any of this. I was at 1.5k IR a few months ago, but as Im closing in on 3k IR now Im starting to hit a wall because I just dont master this part of oval racing yet.
Very interedting. Think this applies to all cars. At IMSA Multiclass I always get same point of view when watching some people struggleing with LMPs while I take GT3s besides being able to bring an LMP safe back home.
I dont race oval's that long but what you just said in your video is exactly what i noticed with the xfinity Supra last week at Michigan (Legacy).
Dont know how to discribe it but i took turn 1&2 different then most other drivers there. It was like i drove deeper/later into it, waited for "this moment" of the weight shift and got on the gas way earlier and could release my steering input and the car drove it self out of the corner and to the outside wall. (Not into it😅)
But i struggeld a little in 3&4 because i couldnt find the right moment there, at least not consistent enough😕
Turns three and four at Legacy Phoenix in the Pickup Cup is a good place to learn this. A novice will have the left side of their truck well off the ground as they try to force the truck around the corner as fast as they can, while fast drivers who have braked at the correct point will be sitting level with the track and are able to get out of the corner a lot faster.
excellent info! class B is at Indy this week and i definitely felt this early vs late effect. now i know why!
This all applies to road racing too. The corners are just smaller. The Porsche Cup car is the classic example, for learning weight transfer, but it helps a lot in formula too.
This video is certified "killing it". Keep it up!
Your vids are very helpful. I’ve tried all of these and they certainly helped. Still don’t know how to drive it off the right rear, but my tire management took a BIG step forward last year
This video is well done. Really good explanation of how to improve this skill. Also, great example how to use more tire.
Good meeting you my man !! This is Jake from Sytech . Looking forward to racing with you and all the informative videos
Aye I’m in that league they showed! Pretty fun racing
W mans
i'd be happy to join such a league, but as a european it's unmanageable due to the time zone difference :( 9PM ET is 3AM here :(
@@tamaslichtenberger8529 Hey we have Europeans that do that
i think they're insane lol
Really informative video. Thanks for sharing your pearls of wisdom with noobs like myself.
Thx for the content🤘🏼🏁
You have an amazing channel, thank you.
Great video! Thank you
Excellent again!
I’m still really green, but I picked up the weight shift feel in your tire wear video. It made me consistently faster, but the difference on those long runs in between cautions. I know right away with the understeer coming out of a corner I was too eager on the gas or entry.
Oh I’m def going pro now! Lol
Thank you for this video I will def be making these changes.
Yup, I'd say this is the biggest issues I have on ovals, and what has kept me from participating in it more. But then again, that is just dime in a dozen... :D
That leauge is amazing 🤘
That cash Culp guy seems to like last place
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The ‘Weight shift’ is also called ‘taking a set’.
This guide would be especially useful if Iowa had the tyre deg IndyCar has in real life. You'd be able to feel how much tyre you'd used in comparison.
Awesome video sir. I always enjoy your work.
I have always struggled with trail braking. I try to adjust my entry and be easy with the inputs but still seem to struggle to keep up. Every since the latest update it seems to be dramaticly worse. I raced Rockingham in the trucks and qualified 2nd but by the end of the race i had fallen all the way to last place and just could't keep pace. Maybe it's just me. Seems like everybody
else is passing me like i'm standing still.
Thank you sir
This worked!
i feel personally attacked
You dont want to hold the brake longer. You want to lift earlier, and then get off brake earlier and coast a little before throttle. Holding the brake longer is adding more heat to the fronts
@DJYeejay you should think about maybe grabbing some outside of the car shots at the point of weight shift, just to show us from another angle how much of a weight transfer we are talking about
I'm thinking maybe reverse chase on slow-mo
Watching your camera, I’m amazed that you’re not a professional kart racer. Haha jk. This video is one of the most beneficial ones yet! Great thanks for them
To add to this, why can I apply oval racing techniques to circuit racing and see a noticeable gain, but applying circuit techniques to oval racing shows a noticeable loss?
For the most part oval cars are BOATS so if you can get a handle of those the cars that are actually designed to perform feel a lot better
Can you place your throttle/brake display in the center of your view. I have some new displays but one I watch sometimes is a 720p from 2005. I can barely see your pedal inputs. Love your content and your shorts are excellent.
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Ya I can start doing that on guides I’m so used to having it there for my personal driving though I might always remember to switch
@@DJYeeJay i know that is your normal racing setup. I'm impressed with your channels growth and the Farm you're growing. 😁
I've had times where I'm so in the zone that I can almost feel the car shifting its weight
Can you make a tutorial for dead on beginners i suck at everything i always waste my tires when racing i always hit the wall
On your last remark about trail braking:
Isn't a decent bit of the rotation from trail braking due to managing weight transfer?
Yep!
What does "back down the track" mean? Do you mean straight?
So basically we wait till mid corner then go to throttle??
I may have missed the definition, but I still don't exactly grasp the concept of weight-shifting. To clarify, is it when the car has the feeling of rolling down the hill that counts as a weight shift, or is it something else?
That's post weight shift ya the actual shift happens at the very moment you hit that "peak" of the hill
@@DJYeeJay I'm gonna need to practice feeling for that moment where it's going to go down. Love these videos. Helps me improve my racecraft.
Are you referring to only fixed series ?
open sets tend to have less snug entries but this is still pretty applicable
damn all the 2k guys are gonna be winning races now. couldn't you have just kept this a secret?
How does this apply to Street Stock?
Everything applies!
Focus
The equipment you have is more important,I have thrustmaster t150 with 400 dollar computer 24 in screen with plastic spring gas and brake , I've gotten close to 3000 I rating in oval pavement and close to 2000 irating in oval dirt , and I am convinced and have been told that steering wheel and the pedals and your computer you are using how to make a huge difference if it didn't why would people spend tens of thousands of dollars on Sim rigs if you could only spend $500 and get up to a 10,000 people that say that the wheel and pedals and computer does not matter or just I don't know what to say but I do know what matters I am a very talented driver, I'm going to upgrade my pedals and wheels soon and then I will be able to prove this correct
I’m 7.5k with a g29. Pedals matter quite a bit though
Are you saving up your periods to cash in on sim gear?
Addition:
This is true for road racing too.
Be mindful of your slip angle, as even though the slip angle can be very forgiving, you are using more tire for the same amount of speed,
As for you DJ, you mentioned you find inconsistency when driving. Is your sim rig stiff enough? are you using a padded chair? Is your wheel close enough that your shoulder doesn’t come off the back rest? are your pedals the right fit for your racing needs. i don’t know your kit but perhaps getting a hard seat with only thin rubber padding might lend you extra consistency.
Idk when you say “sometimes it doesn’t” it means you’re doing something wrong half the time. Good luck
There are little micro reasons why "sometimes it doesn't" that were not super important to the overall idea of the vid. Mostly just getting entry angles wrong
A lot of people need this video.
Even I, a 5K iRacer, gained something from this.
fast cash is a wack league, did a few races with them, full of 13-14 year old kids, intentional wrecking, bad driving, half the race spent under caution, shady admin behavior. there's a reason why they only got 7 showing up each week. save yourselves the time!
wow Steve, you should tell us how you really feel!