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Stabilizing a Muddy Road
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2018
- PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR. We would have taken an entirely different approach later in the Spring when the frost had left the road. Check out regrading a road with a 45hp Kubota L45: • Grading a driveway wit...
But thanks for all the comments about what we did wrong with this stone application. Curiously, none of the those comments came from anyone who was on hand when we added the stone! The bottom line, in spite of what some may think, is that this application resolved the problem quickly and inexpensively, and the stone became a part of the road surface as we worked it into the mud!
Mixing 1.5" crushed stone into a muddy road surface to help to bind it up. The mud is the result of frost leaving the road surface that is saturated with water from mid-winter rain but remaining below the surface trapping water in the top layer of gravel.
Adding crushed gravel would simply make more mud!
For other road and driveway maintenance videos from Russ Lanoie see:
• Emergency Road Repair ...
• Grading a Steep Drivew...
For more in depth information on dirt & gravel road maintenence see:
tinyurl.com/Ditch-in-Time-Roa...
wow, that looks so much better. I was trying to find a way to stabilize a path thru my back yard. lol. I will not be working that hard. thanks for the vid it is cool
Exact problem in the desert above Reno, NV TODAY!! Be safe guys and try to stay dry!! Blessings!!
Nice!
We are planning to do the same on a slope.
Can we just drop the stones on say a 45 degree incline road?
How do you stabilize it?
We will dig drains so the water can flow along the sides
putting fabric down prior to stone will make for a 10x better roadway, the rock will just keep eating into the mud unless the underlayment was ledge and only less than a foot than you could dump your rocks and there would be a final firming. In most cases you are just tossing your money and time into a mud hole. We live on 15 acres of ledge based ground that has numerous deep pockets, its not easy at times to get it right but when done, it will last a long time.
Larry, I could not agree with you more under many circumstances.
see the first article in my blog: ruralhometech.com/rural-home-blog/
However, this particular section of this road that I've maintained for 25 years had never broken up like this. I've found that various sections of several of the miles of development roads and private driveway (some up to a mile long) will mud up when they never have before. I attribute this to varying weather conditions such as the amount of rain falling on frozen surfaces and the amount of sun we get during the thaw. It's kinda like playing Wack-A-Mole. I've used fabric on another section of this road and many others with very good results.
This section was too soft to be able to place the fabric and add gravel but the 1.5" stone did bind up the surface for residents to be able to pass and is now incorporated into the road gravel. It was a quick and low cost fix that worked.
Please see more information in my Road Maintenance Manual:
ruralhometech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Road-Book-by-RL-8-17.pdf
this isn't true.
The fabric is amazing is theory but unless it really deep it can come up and be a nightmare. Also on hills they can just slide away. I would bush rather use 3” stone and build a base and work up from there.
From what i am reading, you could spread a layer of hydrated lime on the road and it would absorb the moisture and harden the road ...
Never tried that or heard of anyone doing it, especially in NH Springtime mud season. This was a rather extreme situation.
You say 1.5” stone is the only thing you can use? What about 3”? I have a similar situation on my road and I was going to go with 3” drain rock.
Nicely done on the wrong way to build a driveway way that will last
Till a mud road like this with adding concrete to dry up the water and stablize the ground. Add stone before it cures ontop and spead while driving over and compacting
As with many other suggestions, this could have been done many other ways after mud season and without a snowstorm coming the next day!
Would fabric not work better here? laying it in before laying stone.
Of course it would work better if we did it once the frost left the road. Like so many other who wrote comments, none of them was there. Every situation calls for a judgement call and I apparently called this right because this solved the problem quickly, easily, and cost effectively.
For how I would have done this later in the Spring after the frost was gone see:
ruralhometech.com/a-ditch-in-time/
Try adding fly ash
In a situation like that here in Washington state we use what they call 3-in..... but it's more like 6- in if you want to get technical...
You're wasting your time putting that small stuff on the road......
Given an extreme situation you would be exactly correct. However, the 2" stone we used in this situation was exactly what was needed. 2" stone is bad enough to try to grade out into a smooth surface, I would hate to have to try to grade 6" stone unless I could press it into the surface with a smooth steel track.
now do one of these on a steep mountain pass.
Exactlly what I want to do on muddy road in Saint-Hugues where many Lanoie live.
Dude you need 20 more loads of stone good luck with that
not at all, it looks like it needs a lot more cause its put on mud, but it probably needs 1 or 2 more loads to be perfect
Geotextile fabric and then... the gravel on top of it, thats the way , guys
If only you'd been there when we did this. I've used geotextile when possible ever since the railroads made it practical. Read my book...
spread it too thin
Whtsilng
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Don’t give up your day job
that mud will swallow up the stone and when you drive on it the mud will stick to your tires and stone and fling it all over, with every turn of the tires. you'll literally be spraying gravel all under your car.. that's if you don't get stuck though wich by the looks of it they did absolutely nothing but made the problem worse, so you just might..
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bull crap, I forgot more than you could fix, put some plastic down and sand then rock, thats how to fix it!!
Looks like some more of waste that tax dollar, give us the gps , bet its still screwed up!
right fix that road then screw it up with 10 wheel dump truck!! he will go back to get one more load and get stuck pulling a tax payer out, waste of time, must be my town road runner, opps i mean fixer!
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