I recently got Process Lasso installed and running on my high end machine for simulators. Your breakdown and tutorial on it was extremely helpful. I’ll follow up on how it improves.
I have done the same, I run a 13900k and 3090 in a custom loop mostly for MSFS2020, and Halo, video editing, but mostly FS2020 which i really noticed that the disable E-core via scroll lock button option in my Strix z690 bios helps a LOT by running the sim on just P-cores, fps is higher, machine runs smoother, but I am positive this application is very useful, I paired it with Core Park Pro and I understand PC's very well, i build and sell them for a living so I do understand most of it, esp the core 0 being always windows hungry, but I am curious if you had any luck with this, and I don't know what to set at idle as I have many more processes than the creator of this video at this time, and id like to set them on idle but idk, I also run Windows 11 pro, any input as far as services that can be disabled or deprioritezed would be helpful if you don't mind sharing. Thanks
This helped me massively with the 5800x3d I set my pc to only use 8 cores then followed all your process lasso setting apart from cpu sets as it wouldn’t let me set a lot of them. Instead of setting things to run off 3 cores I set them to run off 2 and the other 6 for my games. Defo subbing
I want to thank you for this video. I've spent a lot of time setting up all the usual things for gaming with the 7950X3D (undervolting, nVidia Profile Inspector, and other BIOS tweaks, etc.) But it wasn't until I spent the time setting up Process Lasso with your guidance that I've unlocked the tremendous power of this CPU. After all is said and done, in MSFS 2020 (with a 3090 Ti and 2x32GB DDR5-6400/CL32 using XMP-1, all on a Gigabyte AORUS X670E Pro X motherboard) I'm getting an average of 67 FPS with average frametime latency of 16ms, all while flying in a very demanding location (1500 ft. over New York City.) That's extremely good performance in 4K with a mix of Ultra and High graphics settings. To anyone gaming with the 7950X3D, I urge you to follow the steps in this video. It's a gamechanger, and well worth the donation I just made.
The only guide that really explains what does process lasso do, what setting you should change and what not to change. Other video just change setting without proper explanation, just talking some shit. Thanks for this video
Late comment.. I've used process lasso for sometime now, but this guide has taken it to the next level. I play on an aging laptop that was barely getting a consistent 100fps in fortnite. After using the tips on placing certain processes on their own affinity, I am now locked at the 144hz refresh rate cap the entire game. Not one dip. Thanks for the tips!!
holy shit the input latency on my laptop got reduced so much now it feels like im playing on 3 times my sensitivity everything feels so smooth and responsive wtf else have i been doing wrong?
Great video but I have a question. Can I set the affinity to my E-cores? I have 20 cores but my last 4 are e-cores that never really get used so is it safe to put 80% of my system like you did but on to my e-cores?
Hey Man, Thank you for making such high quality and high leverage content! My system is really low end right now and I have experienced significant impact upon my gaming with applying several of your video's suggestions. With regard to Process Lasso, all of my process (literally all like in this video) now are optimized. Yet with Fortnite, my priority and affinity ebb and flow in and out of functionality. I have a thread started with the PL team and they are aware of the issue and are creatively seeking a work around for it. Do you happen to have any suggestions for this?
all is fine but i was hoping for a list of processes to set to last cores, to idle etc. kinda have to figure out this myself from various bits of your video, still a good vid and makes a lot of sense, i will try this.
Can you do a guide specifically on mw2? I noticed when I tried to change the cpu affinity it would give me an error saying I don’t have the permissions to change it
Should i force the system to only use cores 0 and 7 on 8 core processor so my games can use cores 2-6? Or i should use two cores for system and leave core 0 untouched? Thanks for the useful information! Also, CPU sets for game should be left default or changed accordingly? Thanks
cool video. How did you disable hyperthreading across all your processes? is there a method to disable it on many at a time, or did you manually disable it 1 process at a time?
You can disable hyperthreading in the bios. That’s the easiest way, another way of getting around that if you can’t access the bios. Is by changing the cpu affinity to only use the real cores.
Your videos great and has a lot of detail which I appreciate. I'm a big Microsoft flight simulator user and run a AMD 5800X 3D. How do I know which cores are the priority cores that flight SIM uses? You should have said flight simulator to run on those cores only, and then my background tasks to run on the last cores?
Great guide and info, the only thing I had trouble with is after I set many of the underlying proccesees to idle. I couldnt get some games to change cpu priorrity. I would select real time or high and nothing would change.
@@kozzy3191 Yea, Ill use Steam.exe as an example I found that if steam.exe is set to idle most games will automattically be set to idle and its difficult to change without restarting a few times. I simply left my gaming launchers on normal cpu priority and then adjusted a perfered cpu priority per game. Wich seems to work more consistently. I also noticed that games on idle was messing with my cpu overclock and gpu overclock stability while gaming so its why I swicthed to leaving games on normal or high CPU priority. Overall the system processes set to idle as the video shows seems to really help my performance overall so these tweaks do really work.
I would not really recommend this on cpus with less than 6 cores, as most games use at least 4 cores for gaming so if you put your processes dedicated on two cores and your gsme on the other 2 cores you will build another bottleneck, in this cases the multithreading of your 4 cores will do a better job, but im not an expert thats just what I understand
Can you make a list of what you put on idle? Cause I put as many things that let me and it made my mouse freeze every time I’d try to move it I fixed it now but I still wanna try again
no but we can fine tune it after that as anything needed to be changed will have been changed therefore allowing us to adjust them accordingly for our systems? @@CodyAFlinn
Generally almost all processes I’ve found can be put on idle. I think it’s mostly because the process will use itself when it needs to. So it will switch to using resources. Keeping it at idle just means you aren’t wasting cycles.
I have an important question. SO I recently installed a full version of Windows 10 LTSC which is already a barebones OS. After doing a ton of optimizations from other youtubers, I stumbled across your channel and followed all the steps. I set everything to Idle except for the important Windows stuff. Games set to Highest priority, Csmss Highest, and wininit.exe set to highest. The thing is, GTA which is my testing benchmark right now has no noticeable difference in fps if not slightly worse. I do have hyperthreading on btw and set all my idle task affinities to 7-9, games at 1-6 and so fourth. I have an AMD 6700XT paired with a Ryzen 7900 non-x variant. Let me know your feedback as soon as possible!
If your pc was already capable of handling the game, then separating the processes isn’t going to upgrade your hardware. Over clocking or or setting windows NT scheduler to handle more packets per nanosecond. DDU and nvcleaninstall makes a real difference
@@curse4490 I did notice a difference in FPS and Input lag using the fastest CPU Cores only. This was 8 months ago so I already know how to use it properly by now. Input lag is more of a priority for me than FPS anyways. But I get a good 10-20 FPS increase for everything.
Usually ultimate performance, since it just disables all power saving features and makes everything run at 100% Bitsum probably is better for laptops with a more “efficient” battery saving feature setup.
hi ! I have tried numerous times to make apex run in real time but I wont let me (access is denied), I think it has to do with the anticheat as it works fine on r5 reloaded. how could I overcome that issue ?
Ive done this, cod mw2 is far smother and better fps, however, windows now feels a bit iffy? Got a 5600x, put cod onto core 1-8 and the rest like you on 9-11
When I set everything to idle (besides the processes that cant be changed) doing stuff on the desktop feels unresponsive. Also youtube videos and twitch are loading really long. Any specific processes that should not be set to idle?
Thanks for the reply, just wondering do you mess with HPET or timer resolution or any of that? I've got a 5900x/32gb 3600 cl16/3080 and still plummet from 400 to 330 fps at 1080p in teamfights. I find rialto to be the worst. Been trying to find the magic bullet.
I have a i9-13980xh in my asus rog strix g16, and I tried to put almost everything on e-cores (16-31) and it went really really worse in games, should I try something alse? any suggestions?
What about steam? Discord? Things like that. Should I put them on the same 3 cores as windows, and if so, should I remove priority boost on those? Also what about anti cheat .exe’s? And should all these I’ve mentioned be set to idle? And is bitsum highest performance helpful? And what about intelligent standby list cleaner? (I already have it set up, just don’t know if it should be on idle, etc. Thanks for your awesomeness! ❤️
Anything that isn’t a critical process like windows services should be on idle, I’ve ran discord/Firefox on idle and nothing really changes. If you only have a few cpu cores, I wouldn’t do affinities, since they are forcing the OS to use only those specific cores. Cpu sets are more of suggestions to guide the OS. So In the event it needs to use those extra cores it can. Keep hyperthreading if you have 4 or less cores. Cause the extra threads are useful.
@@imAgentR Yah anything less than 4-6 cores is not enough to scale well. Because you won't have enough cores to delegate a large amount of processes off of for windows. Or you won't have enough left to actually run games smoothly. Games need 4-6 cores. Windows need 2-4 cores.
Bit late, but forcing ow2 to run only on main cores seems to cause a lot of stutters. Initially I thought it was due to forcing everything else to idle and to run on cores 0-3 but trying again with ht cores assigned as well seems to have stopped the stutters. I imagine this might be the case with a lot of newer games due to the way they are designed to take advantage of multiple cores and hyperthreading.
A question: should we disable or uncheck The dynamic thread boost in process lasso for all of our services and back ground apps? But for our games its is expermental?
@@Savitarax i didnt catch that , the dynamic thread priority boost in P Lasso is the same for all of us ,no? I7 9700k , rainbow6 siege . So can i try the method i first commented above ? Have this method worked for u? To uncheck dynamic thread priority for services running
@@headlock9746 I do it only on processes I want to be stable completely. So usually games. But not always. Valorant essentially doesn’t like having it off. But some games like to have it on.
Hello can you give me som advice for this, i have been fiddeling arround with this program now for a while after i found your videos wich are really educational btw, im on windows 11,got a 137000k with hyper threads on. I have been running most proceses and backgroundapps like you showed in the video on idle and done the cpu sets aswell, havent touched the upper system ones. and i have been setting an affinaty for e cores 16-23 to do background tasks and proceses, and games for core 1-15. Does this sound okay or is there a better way to do it? And btw i mostly use my computer for games... best regards👍
Yah there are about 3-4 services you can’t bind sets or affinities. It’s normal to see errors on those. You also wouldn’t want to or couldn’t set cpu sets for some of those services. Because it would break the operating system.
You can use apps like capframex/process lasso itself to monitor the activity. Almost always apps will use the first core that is next available. So if you have 8 cores It will use the first 4, 0-3 because it’s overflow type scheduling.
@@Savitarax i have a i9 13900K cpu :p i have recently started using process lasso :P so im new with that software. trying to manage where all cpu usages goes since im doing flightsimming
Yah because responsiveness will always be moving a little bit. Bitsum likes to advertise their profiles and services as “100% responsivenss”. Yet they give no indication of what that responsiveness is being measured by and against.
Hi, could you please do a full depth guide about priorities with lasso (especifically for fast browsing experience for studying and editing, like davinci, adobe, etc.? Theres not any guide toward priorities (at least i didnt find any) so it would be really helpful I played around a bit with it, especially with chrome priorities, class, i/o and memory, and havent found any difference whatsoever by daily browsing and also by testing with speedometer 2.1 tool I Also played around with editing programs such as davinci chaging its services to high priority and basically everything else to idle just like in your video. The latter seem to help with stability and less resources Anyway, thanks for this video and the other guides, they are really helpful. Keep it up ! Hope you wlll see this comment and maybe helping us with the priorities Thanks
Hey man this is the greatest optimization video I've ever watched for CPUs. I have an issue thoe, can't seem to change the windows dynamic thread priority on the Idle task, it's just not doing anything when clicking on it any fix ?
It’s probably a restricted service. Those ones you can’t change and probably wouldn’t want to. If it’s a game you have to find the bootstrappers that launch with it and then change those first. Close the game then reopen it.
@@Savitarax Thanks for replying so quick, like you mentioned in the video maybe we get more FPS when disabling this on the task we put on idle (the services) but looks like it's a paid feature like you just mentioned. ANW do you recommend turning it off or leaving it on, on the main game that I'm playing ?
@@Savitarax Sorry what I meant to say is that whenever I try to change the windows dynamic thread it works for when I select CPU priority CURRENT and not in always so whenever I restart my pc I need to reapply it on current any solution for that ?
@@Savitarax Yeah weird, I have full admin perms tho this only happens only works on Current priority even tho I put all background apps on Idle idk ty anw !
I followed and did what you said and now my packet loss in fortnite is very bad I can’t play,I changed the settings also reseted it and even did a system restore(the system restore was before almost a week created)and nothing has changed
Fortnite is a highly restricted service. No other game I’ve seen has as much restrictions and limitations than fortnite. Even if you manage to somehow make it change settings. It will immediately revert them.
Ironically enough at least in my experience only fortnite has this many issues. Also packet loss 1000% is not related to these tweaks. It’s almost surely fortnite interfering with said settings. But not the other way around.
So I turned everything on idle, disabled the windows dynamic thread priority boosts and set up the affinities and cpu sets but the result is that my PC barely works anymore. Massive lag as soon as I do something as boot up a game. Playing a game is impossible, less than 1 fps. Something got fucked up badly, got a clue what it could be or how I at least reset stuff back to what it was?
There is an option in the top left that specifically lets you reset your profile. This happens when you don’t give enough cpu cores to critical windows processes or processes currently running. This happens if I set my cpu on windows processes to use less than 2-3 cores. Or if I set the cpu sets with too little overhead. How many cpu cores do you have? And what cpu frequency?
@@Savitarax Alright got it stable for now again with the reset haha. So I'm running a 5600x, with PBO i'm getting 4500 ish Mhz and I have access to 12 cores in project lasso. I had done the exact same thing you did, set affinity & cpu sets to the final 3 cores. Should I add more then?
@@TheYannickVO yah because what you have is 6 true cores and 12 threads. Threads are extremely unstable when used as a “core” This is because it’s not an actual core, it’s a clever way of doing sequential instructions in less energy. Look up which cpu “cores” in windows are true cores for ryzen. I believe every other core in process lasso is a thread, so core 0 is a true core and core 1 is a thread.
Affinity is totally fine, sets are just nice for services that you don't necessarily have full control over like restricted services. That way you can at least "guide" the operating system a little bit.
Great video!!!, I have a 12700k,..Windows 11... Would I do the same thing but push them to the efficiency cores? Does the new 12200 series sort of do that already or would you need to apply the same settings for max performance?
Windows 11 is better about handling the e core situation. But it has some issues with games and applications. Sometimes the “thread director” will accidentally use the e cores. So that’s why process lasso is useful. Because we can fill the gaps.
Are there any settings that would help you get a locked frame rate? I find no matter what I pick it likes to jump around in a fight or depending on the map. My Cpu and Gpu are no where near being maxxed and my ram is 4 sticks of DDR4 3600 cl 14.
@@superangrysnowman5869 So this video is meant to help stabilize the OS and not the hardware. Because the OS sometimes makes errors. Overwatch can hold 400 FPS very stable on a 6-8 core cpu with 3200mhz good timings ram and a 1070 roughly. It’s important to note that this because power saving features are everywhere and Hardware tricks need to be discovered.
@@SavitaraxI understand it has 20 threads, two per core. But in this video you have the same cpu but yours shows 10 cores Is It a setting somewhere in process lasso?
@@Savitarax that is done outside of process lasso, correct? If disabling hyperthreading is beneficial to performance, why does it exist? Or is it beneficial for the system and other processes and programs besides games? Like maybe multitasking with several programs running? Would I get a comparable result by disabling hyperthreading on the game process in process lasso, rather than disabling it for the whole system as a whole? Sorry for all my questions, I'm pretty new at all this
@@BronyDestined it’s useful in situations like rendering where the work is already known and doesn’t need to be predicted. So sometimes that’s really multithreaded applications. But most usually aren’t. Using it inside process lasso can work it’s just not nearly as effective as disabling it bios level. The main thing about disabling hyperthreading is that when combined with overclocking you can sometimes get 500+MHz on your turbo or all core overclock. Because it can give you more temperature and voltage headroom. So for example On my 10900k I could barely get even 100-200mhz because the heat output was far too high with hyperthreading enabled and my voltage was already at its peak safe levels. But with it disabled I can clock much higher, and my latency is lower. And 99% of games don’t use more than 8 threads max.
You want to have enough cores for windows to run smoothly. So in this case 2-6 cores depending on how much you use. Then you use the rest of the cores for Gaming. Essentially splitting the workload so that as few processes are running at the same time on the same cores.
@@Savitarax Unfortunately i have more frame drops then before and slightly more fps. I use the cores 7-11 for apps and windows and 1-6 for games. Do you have an idea why i have more fps drops now? Thank you.
One more question Do you know of a way to disable windows dynamic thread priority boost on multiple selected processes? When I try, nothing happens. It only works when you go one by one, one process at a time
You can go into the settings menu and make it so that priority boost only happens on processes that are “normal priority” or high. And then that basically prevents anything from running prio boost without having to do it manually
Thanks!
I recently got Process Lasso installed and running on my high end machine for simulators. Your breakdown and tutorial on it was extremely helpful. I’ll follow up on how it improves.
I have done the same, I run a 13900k and 3090 in a custom loop mostly for MSFS2020, and Halo, video editing, but mostly FS2020 which i really noticed that the disable E-core via scroll lock button option in my Strix z690 bios helps a LOT by running the sim on just P-cores, fps is higher, machine runs smoother, but I am positive this application is very useful, I paired it with Core Park Pro and I understand PC's very well, i build and sell them for a living so I do understand most of it, esp the core 0 being always windows hungry, but I am curious if you had any luck with this, and I don't know what to set at idle as I have many more processes than the creator of this video at this time, and id like to set them on idle but idk, I also run Windows 11 pro, any input as far as services that can be disabled or deprioritezed would be helpful if you don't mind sharing. Thanks
hey do you mind helping me
@@johnhawkins6901
One year later, any follow up? How does it work for you?
This helped me massively with the 5800x3d I set my pc to only use 8 cores then followed all your process lasso setting apart from cpu sets as it wouldn’t let me set a lot of them. Instead of setting things to run off 3 cores I set them to run off 2 and the other 6 for my games. Defo subbing
Never , ever without this Programm ! Amazing !
I want to thank you for this video. I've spent a lot of time setting up all the usual things for gaming with the 7950X3D (undervolting, nVidia Profile Inspector, and other BIOS tweaks, etc.) But it wasn't until I spent the time setting up Process Lasso with your guidance that I've unlocked the tremendous power of this CPU. After all is said and done, in MSFS 2020 (with a 3090 Ti and 2x32GB DDR5-6400/CL32 using XMP-1, all on a Gigabyte AORUS X670E Pro X motherboard) I'm getting an average of 67 FPS with average frametime latency of 16ms, all while flying in a very demanding location (1500 ft. over New York City.) That's extremely good performance in 4K with a mix of Ultra and High graphics settings.
To anyone gaming with the 7950X3D, I urge you to follow the steps in this video. It's a gamechanger, and well worth the donation I just made.
The only guide that really explains what does process lasso do, what setting you should change and what not to change. Other video just change setting without proper explanation, just talking some shit. Thanks for this video
Late comment.. I've used process lasso for sometime now, but this guide has taken it to the next level. I play on an aging laptop that was barely getting a consistent 100fps in fortnite. After using the tips on placing certain processes on their own affinity, I am now locked at the 144hz refresh rate cap the entire game. Not one dip. Thanks for the tips!!
can you list all the processes that you set to idle? i tried it and my system just lags..
COULD YOU MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO DOWNLOAD YOUR PROCESS LASSO PROFILE?
yooooooo huge thanks for this video dude, awesome stuff
Really nice tip. Dont know why I never tried it before.
Were you about to export the file with all the settings? I would like to try it and see if it would help me.
Great content on your channel! Look forward to more tips in the future (especially for laggy windows 11 bugs lol)
Great video, really helped me push my fps just a little further. I would like more of these kind of tutorial videos.
holy shit the input latency on my laptop got reduced so much now it feels like im playing on 3 times my sensitivity everything feels so smooth and responsive wtf else have i been doing wrong?
Lol there’s a whole world of things I’d love to show.
@@Savitarax show us make a video
Fantastic run through !!
I have a ryzen 5 2600 6core processor, do you recommend for me to change cpu affinity aswell or not because of "only" 6 cores
also you explained some things i didn't understand before so thank you
I’ve been having a lot of responsiveness drops, what should I do?
Great video but I have a question. Can I set the affinity to my E-cores? I have 20 cores but my last 4 are e-cores that never really get used so is it safe to put 80% of my system like you did but on to my e-cores?
Hey Man, Thank you for making such high quality and high leverage content! My system is really low end right now and I have experienced significant impact upon my gaming with applying several of your video's suggestions. With regard to Process Lasso, all of my process (literally all like in this video) now are optimized. Yet with Fortnite, my priority and affinity ebb and flow in and out of functionality. I have a thread started with the PL team and they are aware of the issue and are creatively seeking a work around for it. Do you happen to have any suggestions for this?
Should I put other input devices on last cores in interrupt affinity tool?
do you know if there is any way to stop fortnite from overriding the affinity and priority that i set?
amazing work, thanks alot for clear explanations aswell
what power plan do u recommend bitsum, ultimate performance or another one?
Could you export your profile to download?
all is fine but i was hoping for a list of processes to set to last cores, to idle etc. kinda have to figure out this myself from various bits of your video, still a good vid and makes a lot of sense, i will try this.
Can you do a guide specifically on mw2? I noticed when I tried to change the cpu affinity it would give me an error saying I don’t have the permissions to change it
Should i force the system to only use cores 0 and 7 on 8 core processor so my games can use cores 2-6? Or i should use two cores for system and leave core 0 untouched? Thanks for the useful information! Also, CPU sets for game should be left default or changed accordingly? Thanks
I would like to know as well
what do u recommend on a 6 core 12 thread cpu?
is there a specific core i should out my background processes on?
do we configure the memory priority and io priority to very low for the idle system services?
I generally like to. Only time I don’t is if it’s semi active on usage.
@@Savitarax u mean cpu usage or memory usage?
Do u also put the memory priority of services to lowest?
this guy deserve more subscribers
cool video. How did you disable hyperthreading across all your processes? is there a method to disable it on many at a time, or did you manually disable it 1 process at a time?
dynamic threading*
You can disable hyperthreading in the bios. That’s the easiest way, another way of getting around that if you can’t access the bios. Is by changing the cpu affinity to only use the real cores.
can you make an updated process lasso vid since new update came out for it
Nothing has changed regarding this method
Can you make it files that we can import?
Your videos great and has a lot of detail which I appreciate. I'm a big Microsoft flight simulator user and run a AMD 5800X 3D. How do I know which cores are the priority cores that flight SIM uses? You should have said flight simulator to run on those cores only, and then my background tasks to run on the last cores?
Hey, i remember when I was tweaking my system and got blue screens and errors about the firewall how did you get pass that?
did you ever export your cfg
What about , power balance and so on?
Hey mate, great run through! Just need some help, i to have a 10900K but it shows up to 19 where yours only shows u to 9?
Disabled hyperthreading on mine
Very nice tutorial. Thank you!!
any advice with intel i5 3470? thank you
on intel 13th gen can i set the process that you set in idle on the e cores? i have 8 p cores and the game i play uses 7
Great guide and info, the only thing I had trouble with is after I set many of the underlying proccesees to idle. I couldnt get some games to change cpu priorrity. I would select real time or high and nothing would change.
same, u found a fix?
@@kozzy3191 Yea, Ill use Steam.exe as an example
I found that if steam.exe is set to idle most games will automattically be set to idle and its difficult to change without restarting a few times.
I simply left my gaming launchers on normal cpu priority and then adjusted a perfered cpu priority per game. Wich seems to work more consistently.
I also noticed that games on idle was messing with my cpu overclock and gpu overclock stability while gaming so its why I swicthed to leaving games on normal or high CPU priority.
Overall the system processes set to idle as the video shows seems to really help my performance overall so these tweaks do really work.
Noticed that as-well revisiting this guide, it might be one of the windows services but idk which one
Hi would you recommend doing this on 6core/12thread cpu? i5 11400
Hey i have i5 2400 should games run on core 1,2,3 or should i also add 0 because i only have 4 cores
I would not really recommend this on cpus with less than 6 cores, as most games use at least 4 cores for gaming so if you put your processes dedicated on two cores and your gsme on the other 2 cores you will build another bottleneck, in this cases the multithreading of your 4 cores will do a better job, but im not an expert thats just what I understand
@@nikolashauzeur7310 thx !
@@Clemsou any time man
@@nikolashauzeur7310 :D
do you not use probalance? and why ultimate performance power plan
Is this viable with a very low core/ low end cpu?
Great vid. Have you looked into your DPC and ISR latency? Makes a big difference in mouse feel and fps if you get process latency really low.
How to do this?
@@Bloom10 something like latency mon
Can you make a list of what you put on idle? Cause I put as many things that let me and it made my mouse freeze every time I’d try to move it I fixed it now but I still wanna try again
Do you put set and affinity for games or just sets
Can you upload your config?
i'm in deep pain when i watch these type of videos with my i5 9400f
please let us download your profile i would love to try yours, ive been trying to make this work but my pc always freezes 30-40 minutes into playing
can you upload your process lasso custom profile so i can easily insert it into my computer?
This is not a one size fits all type of thing. Unfortunately.
no but we can fine tune it after that as anything needed to be changed will have been changed therefore allowing us to adjust them accordingly for our systems?
@@CodyAFlinn
How do I know what cores to run my games on?
how do i know which processes are safe to put on idle and which ones arent?
Generally almost all processes I’ve found can be put on idle.
I think it’s mostly because the process will use itself when it needs to.
So it will switch to using resources.
Keeping it at idle just means you aren’t wasting cycles.
@@Savitarax thanks
fantastic video, tysm for sharing :)
you are everywhere
@@float7976 it's true I am everywhere, btw u have a nice attic in ur house easy to see every1 from it
sir do u have to disable steam web helper EXE?
I have an important question. SO I recently installed a full version of Windows 10 LTSC which is already a barebones OS. After doing a ton of optimizations from other youtubers, I stumbled across your channel and followed all the steps. I set everything to Idle except for the important Windows stuff. Games set to Highest priority, Csmss Highest, and wininit.exe set to highest. The thing is, GTA which is my testing benchmark right now has no noticeable difference in fps if not slightly worse. I do have hyperthreading on btw and set all my idle task affinities to 7-9, games at 1-6 and so fourth. I have an AMD 6700XT paired with a Ryzen 7900 non-x variant. Let me know your feedback as soon as possible!
If your pc was already capable of handling the game, then separating the processes isn’t going to upgrade your hardware. Over clocking or or setting windows NT scheduler to handle more packets per nanosecond. DDU and nvcleaninstall makes a real difference
@@curse4490 I did notice a difference in FPS and Input lag using the fastest CPU Cores only. This was 8 months ago so I already know how to use it properly by now. Input lag is more of a priority for me than FPS anyways. But I get a good 10-20 FPS increase for everything.
Savi, what processes do you recommend idle?
In process lasso, I noticed you had most of your sub process’s on idle.
What should i set my powerplan to? Bitsum highest performance or Ultimate Performance? Wich is better for performance?
Usually ultimate performance, since it just disables all power saving features and makes everything run at 100%
Bitsum probably is better for laptops with a more “efficient” battery saving feature setup.
Question: Should I use ParkControl and is it good for fps or if I already have proces lasso Do I need ParkControl
yes
I use park control and proces laso at same time on gaming and that's the best trust me
Bro can i set all to core 0? I only have 4 cores
hi ! I have tried numerous times to make apex run in real time but I wont let me (access is denied), I think it has to do with the anticheat as it works fine on r5 reloaded. how could I overcome that issue ?
u should try disabling UAC on registry
Ive done this, cod mw2 is far smother and better fps, however, windows now feels a bit iffy? Got a 5600x, put cod onto core 1-8 and the rest like you on 9-11
what do u recommend for a 8 core 8 thread cpu
When I set everything to idle (besides the processes that cant be changed) doing stuff on the desktop feels unresponsive. Also youtube videos and twitch are loading really long.
Any specific processes that should not be set to idle?
Usually ones that are IO sensitive like desktop apps or anything like that.
Just wondering do you use the pro balance/performance mode? Also thoughts on putting it just on the non hyperthreaded cores?
I don’t use the modes and only use non hyper threaded cores
Thanks for the reply, just wondering do you mess with HPET or timer resolution or any of that?
I've got a 5900x/32gb 3600 cl16/3080 and still plummet from 400 to 330 fps at 1080p in teamfights. I find rialto to be the worst.
Been trying to find the magic bullet.
@@KarmaPolice93 I always keep HPET disabled, generally it’s related to ram timings.
@@Savitarax Do you disable the hyperthreading or just select the odd ones except for 0 and 1 if hyperthreading is active?
@@superangrysnowman5869 disable it simply because I have enough cores.
I have a i9-13980xh in my asus rog strix g16, and I tried to put almost everything on e-cores (16-31) and it went really really worse in games, should I try something alse? any suggestions?
You run audiodg on idle too??
Whould be nice to see some videos from you on PUBG (exactly because it runs so difficult and needs pleanty of such optimisations like you do).
What about steam? Discord? Things like that. Should I put them on the same 3 cores as windows, and if so, should I remove priority boost on those? Also what about anti cheat .exe’s? And should all these I’ve mentioned be set to idle? And is bitsum highest performance helpful? And what about intelligent standby list cleaner? (I already have it set up, just don’t know if it should be on idle, etc. Thanks for your awesomeness! ❤️
Anything that isn’t a critical process like windows services should be on idle, I’ve ran discord/Firefox on idle and nothing really changes.
If you only have a few cpu cores, I wouldn’t do affinities, since they are forcing the OS to use only those specific cores.
Cpu sets are more of suggestions to guide the OS. So In the event it needs to use those extra cores it can. Keep hyperthreading if you have 4 or less cores. Cause the extra threads are useful.
@@Savitarax what do you consider a few cores? Like 4 actual cores and under?
@@imAgentR Yah anything less than 4-6 cores is not enough to scale well. Because you won't have enough cores to delegate a large amount of processes off of for windows. Or you won't have enough left to actually run games smoothly. Games need 4-6 cores.
Windows need 2-4 cores.
you didnt say anything about steam. i also wanna know about amd software
@@Savitarax
Bit late, but forcing ow2 to run only on main cores seems to cause a lot of stutters. Initially I thought it was due to forcing everything else to idle and to run on cores 0-3 but trying again with ht cores assigned as well seems to have stopped the stutters. I imagine this might be the case with a lot of newer games due to the way they are designed to take advantage of multiple cores and hyperthreading.
wow, you have only 68 processes, how so few?? it is amazing. i have about 90 :0
How do I get the exported file?
A question: should we disable or uncheck The dynamic thread boost in process lasso for all of our services and back ground apps? But for our games its is expermental?
It really can depend on what thread boost you have and what your system likes.
@@Savitarax i didnt catch that , the dynamic thread priority boost in P Lasso is the same for all of us ,no? I7 9700k , rainbow6 siege . So can i try the method i first commented above ? Have this method worked for u? To uncheck dynamic thread priority for services running
@@headlock9746 I do it only on processes I want to be stable completely. So usually games. But not always.
Valorant essentially doesn’t like having it off.
But some games like to have it on.
@@Savitarax thanks for ur time🥰
Hello can you give me som advice for this, i have been fiddeling arround with this program now for a while after i found your videos wich are really educational btw, im on windows 11,got a 137000k with hyper threads on. I have been running most proceses and backgroundapps like you showed in the video on idle and done the cpu sets aswell, havent touched the upper system ones. and i have been setting an affinaty for e cores 16-23 to do background tasks and proceses, and games for core 1-15. Does this sound okay or is there a better way to do it? And btw i mostly use my computer for games... best regards👍
do you have better fps with those settings?
Hmm, I'm getting errors on important system processes when setting CPU sets.
Yah there are about 3-4 services you can’t bind sets or affinities. It’s normal to see errors on those. You also wouldn’t want to or couldn’t set cpu sets for some of those services. Because it would break the operating system.
hi bro if a game has an core anticheat build in,do u set the anticheat to idle state too?
I play valorant and i set vanguard to idle always and only use the last 3 cores, didnt encounter any problem
how u know / figure out what core each app/software is using? and to then adress them to use what ever core u want?
You can use apps like capframex/process lasso itself to monitor the activity. Almost always apps will use the first core that is next available.
So if you have 8 cores
It will use the first 4, 0-3 because it’s overflow type scheduling.
@@Savitarax i have a i9 13900K cpu :p
i have recently started using process lasso :P so im new with that software. trying to manage where all cpu usages goes since im doing flightsimming
do you have better fps with proccess lasso? i have the opossite with my 13900ks/ have tested only pubg @@altavaer
nice video c: also, is it normal for the percentage of responsiveness to drop sometimes?
Yah because responsiveness will always be moving a little bit. Bitsum likes to advertise their profiles and services as “100% responsivenss”. Yet they give no indication of what that responsiveness is being measured by and against.
@@Savitarax thx u so much, have a nice day
Hi, could you please do a full depth guide about priorities with lasso (especifically for fast browsing experience for studying and editing, like davinci, adobe, etc.? Theres not any guide toward priorities (at least i didnt find any) so it would be really helpful
I played around a bit with it, especially with chrome priorities, class, i/o and memory, and havent found any difference whatsoever by daily browsing and also by testing with speedometer 2.1 tool
I Also played around with editing programs such as davinci chaging its services to high priority and basically everything else to idle just like in your video. The latter seem to help with stability and less resources
Anyway, thanks for this video and the other guides, they are really helpful. Keep it up !
Hope you wlll see this comment and maybe helping us with the priorities
Thanks
Is this config still viable? If so where can I download your configuration?
how do u onyl have 69 dude processes i have about 200 which omes can i remove from running. Great content message back when u can.
Hey man this is the greatest optimization video I've ever watched for CPUs.
I have an issue thoe, can't seem to change the windows dynamic thread priority on the Idle task, it's just not doing anything when clicking on it any fix ?
It’s probably a restricted service. Those ones you can’t change and probably wouldn’t want to. If it’s a game you have to find the bootstrappers that launch with it and then change those first. Close the game then reopen it.
@@Savitarax Thanks for replying so quick, like you mentioned in the video maybe we get more FPS when disabling this on the task we put on idle (the services) but looks like it's a paid feature like you just mentioned. ANW do you recommend turning it off or leaving it on, on the main game that I'm playing ?
@@Savitarax Sorry what I meant to say is that whenever I try to change the windows dynamic thread it works for when I select CPU priority CURRENT and not in always so whenever I restart my pc I need to reapply it on current any solution for that ?
@@B4RDOCKTTV hmm it shouldn’t really be having an issue on normal apps. Maybe your user account permissions are weird.
@@Savitarax Yeah weird, I have full admin perms tho this only happens only works on Current priority even tho I put all background apps on Idle idk ty anw !
I followed and did what you said and now my packet loss in fortnite is very bad I can’t play,I changed the settings also reseted it and even did a system restore(the system restore was before almost a week created)and nothing has changed
Fortnite is a highly restricted service. No other game I’ve seen has as much restrictions and limitations than fortnite.
Even if you manage to somehow make it change settings. It will immediately revert them.
Ironically enough at least in my experience only fortnite has this many issues. Also packet loss 1000% is not related to these tweaks. It’s almost surely fortnite interfering with said settings. But not the other way around.
@@Savitarax aight I did a restore again it was fixed
So I turned everything on idle, disabled the windows dynamic thread priority boosts and set up the affinities and cpu sets but the result is that my PC barely works anymore. Massive lag as soon as I do something as boot up a game. Playing a game is impossible, less than 1 fps. Something got fucked up badly, got a clue what it could be or how I at least reset stuff back to what it was?
A 3D mark cpu test went from 8000+ score to 2000, massive lags during it too
There is an option in the top left that specifically lets you reset your profile.
This happens when you don’t give enough cpu cores to critical windows processes or processes currently running.
This happens if I set my cpu on windows processes to use less than 2-3 cores.
Or if I set the cpu sets with too little overhead.
How many cpu cores do you have? And what cpu frequency?
@@Savitarax Alright got it stable for now again with the reset haha. So I'm running a 5600x, with PBO i'm getting 4500 ish Mhz and I have access to 12 cores in project lasso. I had done the exact same thing you did, set affinity & cpu sets to the final 3 cores. Should I add more then?
@@TheYannickVO yah because what you have is 6 true cores and 12 threads.
Threads are extremely unstable when used as a “core”
This is because it’s not an actual core, it’s a clever way of doing sequential instructions in less energy.
Look up which cpu “cores” in windows are true cores for ryzen.
I believe every other core in process lasso is a thread, so core 0 is a true core and core 1 is a thread.
I could be wrong, because mine are the last 10 of my 20
So 10-20 are threads and 0-10 are true cores.
Should i set dwm.exe and explorer on high priority becuse they interfere with games on pc
leave them as default
do i really need to use cpu sets or just cpu affinity is fine?
Affinity is totally fine, sets are just nice for services that you don't necessarily have full control over like restricted services. That way you can at least "guide" the operating system a little bit.
Great video!!!, I have a 12700k,..Windows 11... Would I do the same thing but push them to the efficiency cores? Does the new 12200 series sort of do that already or would you need to apply the same settings for max performance?
Windows 11 is better about handling the e core situation. But it has some issues with games and applications. Sometimes the “thread director” will accidentally use the e cores.
So that’s why process lasso is useful. Because we can fill the gaps.
@@Savitarax Thanks!!
Are there any settings that would help you get a locked frame rate? I find no matter what I pick it likes to jump around in a fight or depending on the map. My Cpu and Gpu are no where near being maxxed and my ram is 4 sticks of DDR4 3600 cl 14.
@@superangrysnowman5869 So this video is meant to help stabilize the OS and not the hardware.
Because the OS sometimes makes errors. Overwatch can hold 400 FPS very stable on a 6-8 core cpu with 3200mhz good timings ram and a 1070 roughly.
It’s important to note that this because power saving features are everywhere and Hardware tricks need to be discovered.
wheres the audio?
tysm this helped alot
why does Process Lasso show I have 20 cores (0-19) on my 10900K?
Hyperthreading
@@SavitaraxI understand it has 20 threads, two per core.
But in this video you have the same cpu but yours shows 10 cores
Is It a setting somewhere in process lasso?
@@BronyDestined no I disabled hyper threading on my system. It reduces latency by a fair bit especially in combination with disabling idle states
@@Savitarax that is done outside of process lasso, correct?
If disabling hyperthreading is beneficial to performance, why does it exist?
Or is it beneficial for the system and other processes and programs besides games? Like maybe multitasking with several programs running?
Would I get a comparable result by disabling hyperthreading on the game process in process lasso, rather than disabling it for the whole system as a whole?
Sorry for all my questions, I'm pretty new at all this
@@BronyDestined it’s useful in situations like rendering where the work is already known and doesn’t need to be predicted. So sometimes that’s really multithreaded applications. But most usually aren’t. Using it inside process lasso can work it’s just not nearly as effective as disabling it bios level.
The main thing about disabling hyperthreading is that when combined with overclocking you can sometimes get 500+MHz on your turbo or all core overclock. Because it can give you more temperature and voltage headroom.
So for example
On my 10900k I could barely get even 100-200mhz because the heat output was far too high with hyperthreading enabled and my voltage was already at its peak safe levels.
But with it disabled I can clock much higher, and my latency is lower. And 99% of games don’t use more than 8 threads max.
Nice tutorial
so if i have 11 cores should i use for affinity 9-11 or more? and we also have to use cpu sets for games?
You want to have enough cores for windows to run smoothly. So in this case 2-6 cores depending on how much you use.
Then you use the rest of the cores for Gaming. Essentially splitting the workload so that as few processes are running at the same time on the same cores.
@@Savitarax Unfortunately i have more frame drops then before and slightly more fps. I use the cores 7-11 for apps and windows and 1-6 for games. Do you have an idea why i have more fps drops now? Thank you.
@@thekingstar11 try adding more cores to games.
Games can utilize up to 6-8 cores.
Frame drops usually are a result of the core being overworked.
One more question
Do you know of a way to disable windows dynamic thread priority boost on multiple selected processes? When I try, nothing happens. It only works when you go one by one, one process at a time
You can go into the settings menu and make it so that priority boost only happens on processes that are “normal priority” or high.
And then that basically prevents anything from running prio boost without having to do it manually
@@Savitarax awesome thanks
Yes sir