February 2025 Developer Stream | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2025
- Join our community manager, Jayne, as she talks to Jorg Neumann, Head of Microsoft Flight Simulator, Sebastian Wloch, C.E.O. of Asobo Studio, and Martial Bossard, Executive Producer of Asobo Studio, to learn about what's coming up in MSFS 2020 and 2024.
For an overview of topics discussed (using Twitch timestamps): forums.flightsimulator.com/t/february-5th-2025-developer-livestream-discussion/703774
Is there any news regarding the issues within the helicopter Search & Rescue mission set in Career Mode?
I have a strong feeling that whatever went wrong with the launch of MSFS 2024 including the timing of the release and the state of bugs was the result of a pressure from some guy in Microsoft's top management who wanted to meet their financial and operational objectives at any cost.
And knowing how corporations are run, that guy most likely have secured a wonderful bonus although he caused huge damage to the brand name.
That's exactly how these things work. And sad part is that the playerbase then attacks the devs....
@@NookaNifty The marketing boys put 2024 in the title, knowing that you have to release before december 2024.
So when they release the next msfs, with a year in the title, you know it will the same garbage at launch as 2020, 2024.
I'll bet the next msfs will be called msfs2028. Because the sales-team will have more power than the Quality/Devs-teams.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Like the big question here is, Did they knew they were lunching with so many bugs?? And if they knew, how and why they decided to lunch anyway? I mean there's no way that they didn't know about all the bugs unless they're blind or didn't try the sim.
Of course, that's exactly what happened. They have to report to the stakeholders
Yep. Apt analysis.
Appreciate the transparency here. Pretty much unprecedented for a product like this from a AAA publisher.
Blah blah blah.
Where was the transparency before launch? It's easy being honest after they got our money.
Yeah this is not being transparent. This is them trying to recover so when they release another game in 2028 people will still throw money at them.
Too little, too late. Already moved on to better, more stable software
@@Phantom840you clearly did not move on (because you are here)
The attention for VR is greatly undervalued and I think that's a shame.
It's reasonable to be frustrated when something personally impacts you, but I'm sure VR players make up something like 2-3% of the player base. Gotta go after the bigger issues first, even if VR players are very squeaky wheels ;)
@@197jmJorg himself mentioned in this livestream that it’s 10%. He also stated the issues in VR have a chain reaction when fixing one bug it can lead to others so extensive testing is necessary. Us VR users will have to be patient whether we like it or not. I rather they test it improve it as much as they can test it again improve it again and test it again then release it. I rather wait than be disappointed
I understand that VR users aren't top priority and why. But it's frustrating. Flying the SkyCourier is impossible. You can't press most of the buttons at all and some you can reach, but it's difficult.
This is a premium edition aircraft, I paid extra for it and as VR only player, I can't use it. Ten weeks after release.
It will be okay in the end if it’s not okay it’s not the end
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate these developer streams and the transparency from the MS/Asobo teams. You don't have to do it, but you do, and thats really, really great. So thank you, and I have no doubt that MSFS 2024 will become a fantastic simulator in time.
Tansparency hm? Well after marketing lies and money in their pocket is that a tranpsarency? Would you like to change your opinion or you are MS/Asobo fanboy and the answer is no?
@@Izmael1310 how many dev streams have you actually watched I agree with the op this really was transparent, more transparent then i have ever seen which again begs the question how many have you seen?
Some people the days just can't seem to allow opinions they don't agree with...SMH
@majorsnipes1 look bro I've been with the franchise since 2021 i think I have privilege
@@MrEthanhines every stream since 2/2024.
It's hard to accept that VR is a big focus for the team, when the fixes required (renderer changes for example) clearly indicate VR never worked properly during development, and no one actually tested it. I'm willing to best VR testing isn't even on the test schedule, or wasn't before now. 10% of the player base may be a minority but it is a lot of actual people, and we deserve to be treated as first class customers, not second class ones.
The sim is about inclusive to all. No one is getting left behind it. Somethings just take longer than anticipated happens not just in sims but in the industry. They have admitted their mistakes and coming out on this livestream to re assure us what we needed. Now the best we can do is show them positivity and encourage those working on it. Positivity can go along way. We must not be like those other communities out there after all we all want the same outcome and to have fun.
A well put point John. Couldn't agree more. VR was always a 'fundamental part of the sim' in the long run up to release and as you say, surely nobody even tested it with no EFB, no toolbar and mouse cursors that disappear....
This video summarized:
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@@SpidaMez LOL Yeah! I Call it Disaster!
Literally not.
@@RIKAAR_Ambient call it commitment to try and support ungrateful and childish simmers that get so much for free, yet seem a bit brain damaged
Next time dont give alpha beta to mostly youtube influencers. You have the data on real hardcore users they are the ones diving deep into sim not afraid to speak out on bugs or worried they might not get that next cushy invite if too negative.
they didn't, surely you can't be that brain damaged. Thye did a fully-fledged beta, BUT YET SOME THINGS LIKE THE NEW STREAMING TECH CANNOT BE FULLY BETA TESTED
@pieterduplessis6906 3 blind monkeys could have seen within 5 minutes of launch this thing wasnt ready. The alpha was more striped down than a hooker on a grease pole. A gazillion bugs nothing to do with streaming every freaking bug ever seen in a game was evident. It was actually the worst launch in history. Then they had their little fanboy moderators shut down an block posters on their forums for ever daring to call them out.
I'd uninstalled FS2020 in preparation for FS2024 and haven't flown that in weeks. Instead, I've been enjoying getting back into DCS World and will be sticking with that until FS2024 gets to the point of being actually worthy of release.
It looks like I might have a bit of a wait.
Rushed to get it out the door before 2024 turned into 2025 and everything that goes with it.
and...... what about it. Get that wildly unrealistic expectation under control, they have always came though
More people playing career mode than free flight. That's because free flight users have either gone back to 2020 or given up on msfs completely. I took part in a live stream every week and since 2024 release the streamer tried it out for a few weeks and then stopped streaming. 2024 has completely broken the free flight community.
That's all I do is free flight genius.
I don’t like that’s your talking for everyone. I did not touch career mode even once. I only free flight, without an Issue, without a single crash despite the release week
@@pascalfleischer6790 one of the lucky ones
They only care about career mode. I am willing to bet that is going to be a major part of every update. A lot of people are already done with the career mode. So either people are going to start putting it down or they are going to add more stuff to keep users coming back
At least as likely: these are people who *only* want career mode, and who have been avoiding sims before due to no explicit goals and no reason to fly beyond “it’s fun” and “I’m learning.” The options for this are either 2024, or using mods (PC only, and require effort/additional money).
People who like to fly in free flight have more options-ANY sim will let them do that. On the other hand, I like to bush fly, and get out and walk around after I land, and 2024 is much better for that than 2020 (does *any* other sim include a built-in walking sim?). But for airliner free flight, 2020 is probably better (I say “probably” because I don’t fly airliners).
36:47 if this huge list of issues was shown to you before you bought FS2024, would you still have bought it because I would have not
i knew beforehand it would be at least half a year before this is a workable good product, maybe even longer, the people who claim to dont know that, well, these are not very smart imo.
Indeed, I would not buy software this defective.
if you are going to wait for everything to be perfect, you will be a boring person
2020 launched with the same issues and struggles. SHOT MEMORY SIMMERS HAVE, dont you ???
I will be back in a year. So glad I saved my money.
This is like a depressing time warp.
dont. other coming back because you have no clue and can even read or comprehend basic concepts it seems
gta is more your style
With you. Staying in msfs2020 and still waiting for many bugs to be corrected. But seems they want to fix them just in msfs2040
gamepass
Thanks for saving extra bandwidth for the test of us having a blast on 24 lol
wise, but i say half a year might be ok too.
Very informative thank you for acknowledging the chat on the VR matter it’s good to hear you want it to be tested before its release and that it is a lot more complex than people think. I admire the transparency here
When are they talking about VR? Don't want to watch the entire thing.
They keep on going back to it throughout the stream
Please don't let us spend our money on your next product "Microsoft Flight Simulator 2028" until you make MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 bug-free.
there is no such thing as a "bug free"! software
@ It’s kind of figure of speech thing…… Bug-free in the sense free of bugs that would not make us go crazy after spending money… eg. If you buy a car, it should start and we could ride in it. But what if the car won’t start or gives us engine misses. No one will be happy. I hope you get my point I am trying to highlight here 🙂
If someone says it’s hot today, don’t be too smart to reply, there is no what is called “hot” but it depends on temperature. Pl don’t be too smart. We all can understand nothing is perfect. But that cannot be applied to MSFS.
@@rahalwidanagamageyeah and if you drive with sunglasses like 10% do, the dashboard disappears.
bug free does not exist o uninformed one
and nobody forces you to buy anything.....
@@pieterduplessis6906 we are not like you guys who buy and eat sht and be happy, and nobody wants to listen to you 😁
I had MSFS 2024 on XBOX and I deleted it and went back to MSFS 2020. With the Xbox controls, it’s not easy to do checklists so I loved the auto checklist and was shocked they took it out of MSFS 2024. The EFB is also cumbersome to use with Xbox players. I just wish they added all these improvements of MSFS 2024 but with the ease of use of MSFS 2020. They created a game that maybe on a PC will be easy to use, but for the Xbox it’s not that simple. Most people who are average gamers like me just want to get in an airplane and go. With that being said, I do like to emulate an airline and start at the gate and without the auto checklist, it makes it almost impossible for me to get the plane started up and ready to go. Please bring back auto checklist, the toolbar n main screen and make this game more Xbox user friendly!
Another point too..there are some who want the game as realistic as possible (internet pilots, VR, players potentially following a career in aviation) and then there are players who just want to enjoy the better scenery and real world aircraft/airliners flying around. Maybe make two modes..one version of the sim for advanced players and one version for the average Joe who just wants to fly…
MSFS2024 my most dissapointing gaming experience in 20 years, especially as a freshman to the sim... so many bugs, glitches and angry dissapointments.... shame on MS.
much worse than this. you seem to not have such a wide exposure.
the previous platform many clings too now, also launched with as many issues AND LIKE THAT ONE, they will fix 2024 as well. It is like simmers think this is a final product
cyberpunk was crucified after release and look how that turned out?????
I find this funny; they basically spend a certain amount of time working on this game, they called for people to beta test their game, with no doubt they must've had plenty of bugs that needed to be fixed ahead of time before the first day of launch. suddenly, not only this game became unplayable for most players, but the game wasn't working properly. How can these developers spend possibly more than a year working on this game and not have it fully established? because there is no way that they have these many problems with the game if they have spent maybe more than a year or so working on it. Most of gamers are not this dumb, if they do not improve this game by a year later, then they can expect to see very little player population in the next one, I have very little confidence that they will pull this off.
Sorry, but I still see arrogance.
When presented with bugs for basic aircraft function not working like lights, flaps, etc., they act like "Huh. Yeah, we're looking into it. *Maybe* we'll get to that in update 2." It's as if they never bothered to A) see what worked in older versions of flightsim and B) how things work on actual aircraft.
Also, not a peep about the server side updates Jorg mentioned in pre-release pressers.
As for claiming they want feedback, then why block users from their forums who are offering it to them? Why respond to Zendesk tickets with canned emails asking how they did when they didn't do anything? Why completely ignore all the overwhelmingly negative comments on their various social media accounts?
They care more about usage numbers, and trying to wrap all the discontent in the dismal server issues at launch, than the actual problems that continue to plague the sim.
agree, some bugs are so immediately seen, its clear it was not tested even. but ok, i always said, wait at least half a year for a more or less working sim.
Agree
no, it is YOU who become arrogant, when these devs don't jump up and down to your every command and fit of the day
then again, this is a NEW GEN platform, so past platforms ads no value
the issue is probably that YOU have no clue what it takes to code a platform like this and what they give to us for FREE, you seem totally out of your depth here
@@pieterduplessis6906 Expecting to get what I paid for is not arrogance. Arrogance is MS/Asobo expecting us to wait another year to fix what they sold to us last year.
Also, I have been a developer for nearly 15 years. Had I ever produce that sort of half-baked code and expected my clients to accept it, I would have been fired long ago.
@@pieterduplessis6906 Arrogance is selling a product last year and expecting your customers to wait until next year for it to work as it should.
I have spent the past 15 years as a developer and Business Analyst in the pharma software space. Had I produced as many and the kinds of bugs FS2024 contains, I would have been fired years ago.
Also, in the past, I was an award-winning add-on aircraft designer for both freeware and payware. On my own, I built the 3D models, animated them and created the textures. I had help with sounds and flight dynamics.
And yes, all the control surfaces on all of my models worked as they should. MS can't say the same about their aircraft, and they had a team of 800+ people.
Hi Martial, in regards to the mouse freelook axis issues, it is still an issue for PC on Windows 11. It behaves very different in 2024 than in MSFS2020 with the same exact momentum, freelook speed, cursor speed, and cursor acceleration settings. In MSFS2024 the Y axis is very slow on mouse freelook with fine movements. And the X-Axis is very sensitive with large movements. It feels like there are curves on Y axis that make it very sluggish with small movements. And the inverse is true for the X-Axis, where large movements give unpredictable and erratic large movements that will spin your freelook 360 when making large X-Axis movements. This has made the game unplayable for me for over 3 months, I am really surprised it hasn't been fixed yet and I am losing hope that there will be a fix.
This is why I only play 2024 in VR, when freelook is disabled. But then, VR has its own issues, which won’t be fixed for a few more months. Despite all the efforts to fix bugs, the core play is still not enjoyable.
Horrible FS2024 so far... I've fiddled more than I've flown.
Basically, this is a meeting that should have been held several months prior to the launch date. 😂 that's pathetic... I've never seen that before
REALLY. then you live in a very tiny world.
Your grasp of what they are doing with all of the struggles, and more is the pathetic thing here
You might what to train that brain damaged noggin on the top of your neck, because you sound completely uneducated here
Fixed 32,000 bugs. 320,000 left
7:47 Confirmed to me it's going to be at least another year before it's even close to fixed. I'm so glad I got a refund on day 1. I'll be buggered if I will pay Asobo to be their alpha-tester.
Jorg and team absolutely on point here with staying on-message and explaining their focused commitment to improvements. Feels like a sea change between past negativity and future enhancements and enjoyment of the sim. It's probably not been a fun past few months for this team; thanks for committing to these updates and communicating all of the hard work happening behind the scenes. Nobody who leaves nasty comments understands how difficult it is to solve these problems. The MSFS franchise is in great hands and we're lucky for it.
Stockholm Syndrome at its finest lol
Are you on the payroll?
This is nonsense, these guys are AAA devs at their worst and have clearly sold the community a sim that's a million miles from finished. It's amazing that this is now acceptable and that people actually thank them for it.
The bug tracker be like:
in progress
in progress
in progress
in progress
under investigation
in progress
in progress
in progress
fixed
If I show report like this to my boss he would would liquify me and you guys just gleefully show it to the public?
I apreciate your honesty but please get your priority straight.
Isn’t that the whole purpose of a bug tracker ? If every bug was already fixed there’s no need for a bug list, so of course it’s shows bug which are still not fixed
@@pascalfleischer6790 Presenting your unfinished work to your audience is pointless if not destructive for your rep. A matter of fact I'm planning to sold all my flight sim gear this month and move on to a healthier hobby.
Exactly. I’d rather see it in progress than sitting there idle
@@yudha1577 good for you. simming is not for you.
software testing is not for you, as you cannot seem to understand the most basic of concepts
hopefully the next hobby you choose only involves a ball or a piece of string
this is what testing is supposed to do. clearly you do not code and you have not developed a complete eco-system
and you clearly are out of your depth when it comes to bug tracking and bug fixing
you do realize that you don't just squish a software bug???
Hi folks.. the airport development SDK is a nightmare to work with.. Can you please give it some love so we can publish our MSFS2020 airports to 2024 without these mega complex conversion steps.
I think you met magga... Make airports great again.
I can only imagine the mood at Asobo and Microsoft during MSFS meetings
They are happy, Mediocre product sold. Money in their pocket. Case closed.
~ 40:00: Martial was just rushing over the list leaving out some bugs people would be interested in :/
he covered what time would allow him to do. No simming degree needed to figure this one out
Jorge this whole format doesn't matter because the game is still beta but wasn't sold as beta.
Sticking with VR in 2020 until this hot mess is fixed at some point in the future
they have told you exactly what the issues are and when it will be fixed, so some point in the future actually has a date
And didn't 2020 VR also suck at release ?????? short memories seem to be the norm here
Why do we have to select livery for an aircraft everytime we start the next flight? Is it too hard to fix it to a specific livery like it has been with X-Plane since XP10? Please fix it like you fixed the similar problem with joysticks and throttle quadrants.
It already works like that?
@ everytime I start any one of the stock aircraft, it will start with first available livery if you don’t select your choice i.e. Air N/Z for A321 as an example.
@@Argaeus agree yes, it should remember last one used. a small thing but oh so important in the long run.
if you're saying you fixed 50 000 bugs and the sim is still one hell of a bug, it clearly means this never should be released
well they didnt decice that, it was clearly higher powers that gave the order to launch.
well, it is released. you clearly have NO CLUE how this thing gets developed, and how complex it is. big systems can have 100 000 bugs to sort out. Look at some case studies or read a bit about this. Then came back with a more accurate rambled comment
The airports and LOD. I had a hard time reading the gate numbers from the taxiway at Arlanda (ESSA) last flight. I have a 3rd party addon, don't remember by whom. Is there a way to set a higher LOD for stuff like that, gate numbers, taxiway signs and so on. I tried different object quality settings but it didn't really improve.
OrbX?
so basically all the bugs are under investigation and you fixed maybe 2 or 3 of them?
Which video did you watch? 8/48 under investigation, vast majority were scheduled for a sim update or already fixed
You can't charge customers a full amount to become beta testers. This is a scam.
Well the other option would be Rockstars update path and business model ... Milk everything out of GTA V for 10 years and be secretive about a possible successor as long as you can.
I don't think it is a scam, but ill timing. It needed 6 more months they didn't get. This sim is way more complicated than the 'fixed' arena and gameplay of GTA. I understand that they at some point will bring a paid successor to 2024 as some of the (serverside) costs are continuous and based on use. But I would seriously hate it if they went to a subscription model for the next paid upgrade to MSFS.
Couldn't agree more. But don't dare ask for a refund either, despite an admission that it is not yet ready - I tried. My email was deleted as 'unread' after 30 days.
Hope a lawyer sees this and starts a class action against Microsoft for publishing and selling a game not labeled early access
@@zironemegeaz I hope not. The lawyer will benefit greatly but the Flight Sim community won't... It might ruin what has the potential to become the greatest flight sim experience we've ever seen. If you seek some form of compensation other than the four free 'make good' planes I'd recommend to make your grieves public at the MSFS forums. They do read them...
@@verbaan19 Atleast they release a finished product dude.
A very good Stream indeed. VERY excited for April. Hope Jorg can get his VR headset fixed, or get a new one!
Lol if they don't aleady have a bunch of working VR headsets available around the office that tells you their attitude to VR... they don't care.
@@holobolo1661 Its his personal headset and he probably does not want to take one from the team who need it to develop the VR in the Sim.
@ So they don't have spares ready and charged? They just stop development if one breaks? Sorry but it just doesn't add up.
@@holobolo1661Jorg is not a developer first off all.
Second thing he’s obviously at home, his PRIVATE VR Headset is broke . Doesn’t matter what’s laying in the offices
@@holobolo1661 Martial has three sets at home. So I'm not worried.
B.T.W. I think Jorg had a G2 (like me) and that has been bricked by a Windows Update (that is not Jorg's or Asobo's fault).
thanks for the frank and honest discussion and explanation of things.
Thank you for these updates. I'm a software developer myself and I think you are setting an example here one how to treat your customers.
Saw the bit about tree flattening, but can't seem to find an answer to the tree location and density question? This is currently a huge bug bear of mine as I'm constantly working to adjust incorrect tree placements in SDK. Really ruins the VFR experience in the UK when open moorland is vegetation all 9ver
Alt-N to skip causing millions of credits of damage should be a hot fix.
It's really a disaster guys! 😢 the loadibg times, the forced need to fast internet connection...VR is not good. Crazy really
Clearly you did not watch.
I wouldn’t call it a “disaster.
It is playable now, for me no issues, streaming is good, performance is good, and overall better than 2020, that is not to discount that others are having issues. The launch was inexcusable but calling it a disaster in the state it is now isn't really true as there are other games that takes months and years to fix.
@@pilot.sergio4
Don’t be silly, 2024 is no different from 2020 except you have career mode in it. Apart from that, just the same. You only think it’s better to justify your purchase.
Stop crying. Even though there are things that still need to be fixed, don't make it seem like those first few weeks when everything was packed with bugs and there were server failures all the time.
If one of my work projects launched with even a tenth of the issues you still have failed to solve, I would be sacked, no discussion.
You have a very privileged job, where you can launch something that barely works and still get paid
shhhhhh shocking yes but correct , i am afraid.
I hope someone could help me out. I guess there was an update that came out and every planes rudder is stuck to the left. I button mailed the center rudder and it works for all planes except the Inibuilds planes. Inibuilds is a different story, the rudder centers but than goes back to the left. I’m on Xbox and was wondering if an update would come out of a fix. I also tried to change the dead stick but nit wouldn’t let me. Any help is welcomed.
Also, while I’m in the air when I go to courser mode the plane banks left and the the throttles either go to idle or 100 %.
Beta Update 1 has ended all the error code crashes for me, well done guys, keep up the great work.
So as a VR player I don't get a functioning game for nearly 6 months after the game was released. And that's assuming they fix everything properly in SU2.
Absolutely, while regular players are complaining about custom tail numbers!
Thanks Guys!
Great info & Appreciate all hard work you are investing into this game.
This was *by far* the most *transparent* dev update I have ever seen and I have seen many!
I really looking forward to download packages. It’s crazy to download each time the standard packages by starting the sim.
I hope people got fired over that mess of a launch
And we paid money for this.
your fault totally. i predicted this all the way.
Make 2020 less stable? I haven’t been able to fly since december. Every time I launch the game it instantly crashes. I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled, nothing work. I’ve reset my Xbox series x and nothing. Cancelled navigraph until it got fixed. If anyone knows how to fix this please let you know. I’ll really appreciate it.
Uninstall Nvidia app 👍
I want to answer everyones questions - Lets not jump around too much, ah yes it is in progress!
and....... they cannot answer every singe questiron and they did give a very good and articulated presentation. This is not a technical free for all
this is a feedback session, no more no less
You can tell by their answers and body language that they really dont care about the fact they are using the general public as beta testers.
Great to hear that going forward there will be more testing and involving the community. Recently for me as a Battlefield fan they announced a Battlefield Labs program where they will be testing their next game with the community to ensure the game launches stable and strong due to their last two games being a absolute bug infested mess and simply not the type of game the community asked for. If that works out for them perhaps you guys can implement something like that where you invite the community and even 3rd party developers to sign up for some kind of testing program, who knows, MSFS Labs of some sort and allow us to help you release complete and stable products. Could be a good thing.
They have the beta program currently for the SU1 and you can join.
@ oh I know that one, I meant play testing programs where before a new sim comes out.
So like like let’s say they are developing MSFS2028 right, create a playtesting program where you can allow thousands of player and even third party developers test the new sim before it releases and provide feedback and bugs to developers to squash. The playtest program would run for a year to a year and half to give for players to report anything and give time to developers to fix this issues. That would help the sim launch smoothly and relatively bug free in future iterations.
“Data is doing something that is then causing issues” 😂
That’s a profound statement in the world of software development 😂
This Game is the biggest Scam ever. How dare you to release such a Trash? After 10hours Playtime i wasnt be able to do 1 Flight. I want my Money back!!!
I'm not even playing until hopefully SU1 comes out and fixes a billion things
So many whiners and complainers. I have played sims since FS3 and this is by far the most advanced, complex, incredible flight sim I’ve ever played. People simply don’t appreciate the amount of work that goes into any flight sim, let alone one that looks as beautiful, flies as well, and models the earth as well as this one. The lack of gratitude in this generation of simmers is astonishing. I play FS2024 in VR and am wowed every single time. The visuals and sense of flight are incredible. The performance in terms of frame rate is better than it was in FS2020, with much better graphics. The turbulence model is spot on like real life. Thanks Asobo for your hard work and honestly I’m a bit surprised by the level of negativity and lack of gratitude thrown. $120 for a sim this incredible is a bargain imho.
You are spot on.
its a bit of both ways, but i agree that is a tendency nowadays, too much nitpicking..but you cannot deny the enormous amount of bugs in the release.
I paid £200, which would have been fine, if it had worked. I do not mind paying, I just expect to be given what I pay for. I paid for a complete and functional product. I got an unfinished bug-ridden mess, which is not even a release candidate.
First, thanks, Jorg, for sharing the retrospective with us. As a PM, Developer, Manager, Tester, and Product Owner (not at the same time ;) ) of many solutions in my company, I can feel the pressure and the pain when a situation like this happens. I have many things to share, but this is not the right place. Nevertheless, I can leave you guys with something that caught my attention. You mentioned that you have 90 testers, many bugs, and many folks helping with the alpha and beta test process. That's good, but the numbers didn't reflect that. What I mean is that in the feedback snapshot list, the #1 issue only has 612 votes. We need to ask the community, which is vast, to participate more in the feedback process. This is a fantastic tool to help all of us to get the sim up and running as we expected sooner.
Hope you fix the issue there is an issue in the Cessna cj4 in the the livery glitch and the cockpit set is on the wrong position and the Boeing 747 when I take of it turns left I don’t know why and the Boeing 737 it won’t takeoff always I crash and then I spawn up on the sky when I turn on the autopilot it keeps bouncing hope you fix these issues
Have you filed a bug report in the MSFS forums?
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How were you able to do It?
Am a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down of myself 😭 because of low finance but I still believe God
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I would like to turn your attention to one aspect why people are generally angry with 2024 edition: I would say that the main difference between 2020 and 2024 is the carrier mode (ofc putting aside streamed sceneries and AI) and by coincidence this is mostly bugged part of the new product. It is frustrating.
paid alot of money for all these planes and dont have alot of them. Did you sell it as early access? no Hope a lawyer starts a class action against this.
a typical american response, how silly....it is only game , man.
Stop deleting and blocking comments. Cowards.
Thanks guys ❤
Hi. 10% play VR but with better VR perf we will play a lot more in VR. I will literally pass my life on msfs with a good VR perf. When I play on flat screen I literally cry, I want my VR immersion for sure ☺️
Jorg, Sebastian, Martiial, keep up the good work, having a ball. Keep fixing and keep us in the loop.
The fools already gave them the money with preorders, no one to be blamed except those consumers.
Weird logic
Great work guys! The future is bright.
Thank you for addressing the issues, I bought a Quest 3 for this game but never really got to it because my buddy wont play the game in this state. I haven't tried it since early December.
I Havnt used 2024 in weeks on Xbox s, unplayable keeps crashing. Seems like 2020 seems to run better than before for some odd reason.
less users, means better servers. i am on the xbox x, but dont fly at all now, in waiting mode.
After having watched this episode, I'm convinced that the most annoying issues will be resolved sooner rather than later. Of course there are always issues that remain for a longer period, but we know this.
Some feedback for the 'format of the stream'. Maybe it would be better to categorize it by theme. Like a section for ATC, VR, flight model, aircraft systems, career, etc. Whatever needs most attention at the time. In that section you could address the items in the feedback snapshot, future plans, wish list, Q&A and enlighten us with some of the amazing things going on at the background (b.t.w. I admire Seb for his thorough expertise explaining all this - and at the same time also being CEO). I think it would work better that way because now it was a bit back and forth with some things touched upon two ore more times. At the end of the session you could wrap up some pressing issues not being addressed in one the sections, roadmap and the surprises that Jorg is so fond of (so are we :)). Anyway keep up the good work! I totally agree with the strategy: "bugs first, beauty later".
Yes, I have FS2024 since release date, as well FS2020, and I have to say that I continue to use FS2020 by several reasons, mainly bugs and performance issues on FS2024. Sometimes I use FS 2024 to play for fun, but when I really want to fly as simulation, mainly with Fenix, I use FS2020. I want to believe that in some moment in the future I will move to FS 2024 but until now I'm far to take such decision. In terms of specs I have a I9 10900K - 32GB RAM and now a 5080 (previous was 3080) and I play in 4K. With the new GPU I'm really happy with performance on FS2020 but not yet with FS2024. In the end the history in FS2020 it was similar, during the time we saw evolution in the product, and I'm sure that we will see the same in FS 2024.
Wish I had caught this live. I wanna know when y'all are going to make Carenado fix the R-66 rotor animation.
That is possibly the lowest priority issue in the grand scheme of things, no?
When they fix also the PC-24!!!!!! Wait 6 more months, don't be impatient....
@@197jm No. It is not lowest priority at all. I paid for it. I want it to be right. That animation is an EASY fix and could be done by one of their much touted hot fixes. It is literally changing the animation variable in the model config, and it is VERY stupid that something so obvious wasn't caught before release.
@@ImpendingJoker there's a difference between wanting something badly, and it being high priority. Think objectively about how important the direction of something spinning is against, say, VRAM issues that impact every player?
@@ImpendingJoker you just gotta wait until its fixed. acting entitled is not going to help.
The bing maps in 2020 are at least 10 years old.
I do not see my major problem on the list. The pushback won´t work half of the time or cause a graphics bug which makes it unplayable and frustrating after all preflightpreps are done
Lessons are no good if they are not learnt
Flight sim 2024 looks horrible on series x
Guessing the Aerospace Heaven 707 didn't go anywhere near the testing team then!🤣
I stopped playing career mode entirely since with all the bugs it's more frustrating than it is fun.. Don't even want to hear about new content or sim updates at this point. Just waiting for bug fixes. Some of it seems so obvious, like no missions with the CJ4.. How can it be this hard to fix that? And why is there no testing done in the first place?
I’m still waiting for fixes before purchase. Until then, I’ll be sticking to MSFS2020.
So no jokes or smirking about the VRAM bug being not an issue this time like last stream. Maybe show some humility
Looks like VR, that was always stated as being fully integrated and a fundamental part of 2024 (and a fundamental reason I bought it), isn't going to get things like EFB, toolbar functionality or even a reliable cursor, till at least SU2.
That just tells me VR is not regarded as a critical component. It is completely unuseable in its current state.
I can't even say how disappointing that is.
i think ALL devs should allow the public to test and build a game together so we are ALL happy on full launch, make it so
that would take decades, and did you think about the public not being one too, some say A others B etc etc
Thank you for the insight into your processes and plans for going forward with a focus on fixing issues in lieu of new content. I'm certain an acceptable balance of bug fixes vs. new features can be achieved.
Weill done!
Still waiting for the mouse issue on Xbox to be fixed 😅
Is it good for me on the beta? after 3 months
Updates for Boeing c17 are already in queue. When they will be released ?
They must be proud 🤮. I appreciate discussions they gave but I was brought up on basis of accepting mistakes and FIXING them. Well fixed so many bugs but it still released like this well their testers must be incompetent maybe..
It took me longer than I wish it had for me to realize this game was not complete and I was battling hundreds of game breaking bugs. Denied a refund.
no need for a refund, come back in half a year and try again.
@@wout123100 Can't get a refund anyway
Too many bugs at the moment.Will be back later.
People play career mode because it actually looks better then free flight, it’s how free flight should be
I actually LOVE 2024 it works on Xbox and doesnt take up much room.
Yes there are bugs, but its amazing.
Thank you for the transparency! Creates a lot of sympathy on my side for the developers and their struggles
When will the marketplace open for 2024?
I can't use the sim anymore. My controls are messed up and there doesn't seem to be a method to go back to the default controls. Have I just wasted $60?
try reinstall? game is small.
Let's hope for some Bush Wheels on the 185... I haven't seen some Big Tires in the trailer...
RE career mode for 3rd party, it isn't that it isn't entirely clear in the documentation, it's that it is virtual non-existent in the documentation. If I'm wrong someone please point me to the existing docs, but I've never managed to find it anywhere.
all this will be fixed in due time. They said clearly that they are working on this
So it was released with 18,000 known bugs!
Thought the same 😂