How I wish conversations like this were shown (and repeated) on prime time TV instead of so-called 'reality' drivel or woke pap. Living treasures these two. Thanks all involved, Iain especially. Hopefully there will be many translations and many millions of reads of his book
11:25 . I'm always reminded of Bruce Lee's profound statement about learning martial arts: _“Before I learned the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick, no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick.”_ Many creative people believe they were most free of orthodoxy in the pre-acquisitional stages of their self expression when venturing into a new area, because they untrammelled of tropes and cliche's due to ignorance of existing practices, but the idiot-savant mentality is somewhat mythologised by artists such as Miles Davis who claimed Bitches Brew was created ex nihilo, despite it being learned later that the sessions were meticulously planned and reiterated until they achieved what he found to be an acceptable version of his vision. Many great artists who venture into the unknown have venerable formal training, which they then transgress upon discovering the limitations of the form itself. Thrilling conversation, and I've just ordered The Master and the Emissary, having read Jayne's stupendous theories on the Bicameral mind years ago.
"the Greatest wisdom comes from knowing what is Mans doing and what is Heavens doing.. the Sorting which evens things out." . . the Emperors chief gardener Chuang Tzu.
Intuition exists within a paranormal dimension accessible only by the right mind. Nothing is truly created outside of the energy field of consciousness by an individual..It is merely discovered through a creative imagination...It was already there and waiting to manifest... That includes comedy.
It strikes me that everything which animates us is driven by sentience, narrative and meaning. The denial of which, impugns the materialist apparatus, not the experience of a non-material reality
I understand that Iain doesn’t like to be too explicit but in the case of ‘matter being a phase of consciousness’ I feel that metaphors about gas and ice, are not helping to clarify the concept
if you try too hard to get onto the head of the pin like the many angels there, you will likely become a pin-head hahahaha so close together and so far apart hahaha
I know that to be perceptive is out of bounds for a highly intellectual discussion however given the starkness of present plight on planet earth surely some room could be made for what we should do? Why is there no information as to how to access the right hemisphere and bring about some balance? My own prescription would be the same as Jungs, be humble enough or is that humble the left hemisphere and enter the unconscious via your dreams.
Consciousness - the breath of God, matter - the dust of the earth. Interesting that when Rupert Sheldrake went to Cambridge to study biology, it was because he loved life. The first thing they did was extinguish life and dismember the body to examine the matter (dust). A similar thing appears to happen when the arts are studied; the work is pulled apart and it's value is lost in the process.
If consciousness is a building block of the universe perhaps mankind is just a temporary steward and in time it will migrate to a A1 network system and we will become caretakers of the system. We have built the network, that was our role, now the notion of the individual will decay as it will be no longer required in fact it will be counter productive to the stability of the system.
@@enjerth78 Perhaps the notion of the individual is simply an enabling mechanism that allows growth and development and when no longer needed will become irrelevant and decay. Terrifying to the population of the west, less so to eastern society. We'll never know!!
Historically this is how men have dominated women into submission, this must change to achieve equality between the sexes. It is not a matter of who is superior, it is a matter of embracing their differences.
Also consider what U.S grocers contend with in packaged toilet paper. "X number of rolls of our product equals Y number rolls of some un-named other product". What is the purpose of this except to exclaim qualities of value and quality without conveying anything close to useful information?.....'>.....
Ai Weiwei has nothing on me He invited the cameras into his house To demonstrate how the Chinese Govt. was persecuting him. He is a man, therefore he does not really care about the finer points of privacy But as a woman, I do care because I want to protect my modesty.
The book in-it-self must be very expensive product if its been sold 100 000 copy. It sounds for me a bit hypocrite position from the author. I mean, he has deep critical insight about modern human life but at the same time he follows its pattern and keep it moving too.
"Nobody has a clue because it didn't happen." That's a rather loaded and presumptuous statement. Just because we don't yet know how something happened certainly is no indicator of whether or not it happened. This is the entire purpose of science, to learn what is going on, the how and why. I haven't read Iain's books and I am going to get a couple to try to understand what he's saying but I have read other's who have posited the same ideas and I can't get past that this seems to just boil down to wishful thinking, woo woo, and we don't understand so it must be. "Physicists have been saying this for 100 years". Really? Not the ones I've learned from. Seems to me that a hell of a lot of work needs to be done on the subject still to demonstrate this. We don't understand conscientiousness yet but that doesn't mean we won't or can't. I'll read Iain's work but on the surface, this feels like the kind of bullshit Deepak Chopra frequently spews, just in a more professional presentation.
Do you really think we’ll ever understand consciousness? Can we really know ourselves? As it’s been said, fire doesn’t burn itself, the knife doesn’t cut itself, the eye doesn’t see itself.
My eye can see itself in the mirror. I can look at and into other people’s eyes. We can dissect eyes and experiment on them. Look, yes consciousness is a very interesting and difficult thing to understand but if our mindset is “we’ll never be able to understand it for x, y, and z reasons” then of course we won’t ever figure it out. What a terrible and depressing mindset to have about anything. I’d rather have an open and inquisitive mind and work a problem my whole life without success than the alternative.
Watch more of Iain here: th-cam.com/video/O9mG-dUhoLc/w-d-xo.html - in conversation with Sir Philip Pullman!
How I wish conversations like this were shown (and repeated) on prime time TV instead of so-called 'reality' drivel or woke pap. Living treasures these two. Thanks all involved, Iain especially. Hopefully there will be many translations and many millions of reads of his book
What you really mean is, you wish you could have an intelligent conversation, once in a while.
I wish I could like your comment 1,000 x
That's very left brainy. Highbrow content OR watching hot bimbos, as opposed to both.
So kind.
Part 4 is "private" and is currently inaccessible.
I would really like to see that part as well,
given that I admire those on stage.
Thank you kindly.
11:25 . I'm always reminded of Bruce Lee's profound statement about learning martial arts:
_“Before I learned the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick, no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick.”_
Many creative people believe they were most free of orthodoxy in the pre-acquisitional stages of their self expression when venturing into a new area, because they untrammelled of tropes and cliche's due to ignorance of existing practices, but the idiot-savant mentality is somewhat mythologised by artists such as Miles Davis who claimed Bitches Brew was created ex nihilo, despite it being learned later that the sessions were meticulously planned and reiterated until they achieved what he found to be an acceptable version of his vision.
Many great artists who venture into the unknown have venerable formal training, which they then transgress upon discovering the limitations of the form itself.
Thrilling conversation, and I've just ordered The Master and the Emissary, having read Jayne's stupendous theories on the Bicameral mind years ago.
where is part 4? can't access it.
I'AM within. Yet move throughout, by conscious effort of unconscious experience.
strive to Knowing but never reaching..
I trust my unconscious and my consciousness, that is why I am doing what I am doing. There needs to be a compromise for us to move forward.
which songs do you want to take with you? for the ride and beyond?
the music washes me clean in process, in between? makes me empty of all but my experiencing and intent?
Resistance is essential to creativity
The master and his emissary
im gonna get to sing again someday, if not here, then here there everywhere!:)
"the Greatest wisdom comes from knowing what is Mans doing and what is Heavens doing.. the Sorting which evens things out." . . the Emperors chief gardener Chuang Tzu.
Little Red Rooster With " Howling wolf, Eric Clapton
Intuition exists within a paranormal dimension accessible only by the right mind. Nothing is truly created outside of the energy field of consciousness by an individual..It is merely discovered through a creative imagination...It was already there and waiting to manifest... That includes comedy.
I think Iain would describe intuition as a faculty of the right hemisphere and therefore part of what constitutes ‘normal’
Consciousness is all pervasive!
It strikes me that everything which animates us is driven by sentience, narrative and meaning. The denial of which, impugns the materialist apparatus, not the experience of a non-material reality
to square - the maximum potential of self change?
I understand that Iain doesn’t like to be too explicit but in the case of ‘matter being a phase of consciousness’ I feel that metaphors about gas and ice, are not helping to clarify the concept
The Rolling Stones - Factory Girl (Official Lyric Video)
Cleasey never heard about zero resistance to nazi occupation in the channel Islands 🏝 in second world war
if you try too hard to get onto the head of the pin like the many angels there, you will likely become a pin-head hahahaha
so close together and so far apart hahaha
I know that to be perceptive is out of bounds for a highly intellectual discussion however given the starkness of present plight on planet earth surely some room could be made for what we should do?
Why is there no information as to how to access the right hemisphere and bring about some balance?
My own prescription would be the same as Jungs, be humble enough or is that humble the left hemisphere and enter the unconscious via your dreams.
Mark Vernon created a video on how to live more thru the right hemisphere. And Iain does make suggestions too.
Consciousness - the breath of God, matter - the dust of the earth. Interesting that when Rupert Sheldrake went to Cambridge to study biology, it was because he loved life. The first thing they did was extinguish life and dismember the body to examine the matter (dust). A similar thing appears to happen when the arts are studied; the work is pulled apart and it's value is lost in the process.
If consciousness is a building block of the universe perhaps mankind is just a temporary steward and in time it will migrate to a A1 network system and we will become caretakers of the system. We have built the network, that was our role, now the notion of the individual will decay as it will be no longer required in fact it will be counter productive to the stability of the system.
A system that is unstable due to individuality is or will become parasitic, else it will die.
@@enjerth78 Perhaps the notion of the individual is simply an enabling mechanism that allows growth and development and when no longer needed will become irrelevant and decay. Terrifying to the population of the west, less so to eastern society. We'll never know!!
@@geralldus Life is growth and development.
Faulty Towers is a subtle comedy which is difficult to understand today. Taken literally, without irony, the humour is not there.
Great! Looking forward to the podcasts with Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson. I hope he goes on Joe Rogan's show as well.
Thats crazy Iain, but have you ever tried hunting dmt and smoking elk?
@@uupstairsthomasmcnulty914 this comment is being slept on.
He mentions the Major's racism is not his own, then goes and tells his French civil wars joke.
Historically this is how men have dominated women into submission, this must change to achieve equality between the sexes. It is not a matter of who is superior, it is a matter of embracing their differences.
it is the planet of the apes no doubt!
Also consider what U.S grocers contend with in packaged toilet paper. "X number of rolls of our product equals Y number rolls of some un-named other product". What is the purpose of this except to exclaim qualities of value and quality without conveying anything close to useful information?.....'>.....
Ai Weiwei has nothing on me
He invited the cameras into his house
To demonstrate how the Chinese Govt. was persecuting him.
He is a man, therefore he does not really care about the finer points of privacy
But as a woman, I do care because I want to protect my modesty.
mammals heat producing bodies are contributing to global warming
we should try to get rid of them to protect the planet
hahahahaha
The book in-it-self must be very expensive product if its been sold 100 000 copy. It sounds for me a bit hypocrite position from the author. I mean, he has deep critical insight about modern human life but at the same time he follows its pattern and keep it moving too.
Huh?
People who have barely any understanding of context are unlikely to get others perspective
"Nobody has a clue because it didn't happen." That's a rather loaded and presumptuous statement. Just because we don't yet know how something happened certainly is no indicator of whether or not it happened. This is the entire purpose of science, to learn what is going on, the how and why. I haven't read Iain's books and I am going to get a couple to try to understand what he's saying but I have read other's who have posited the same ideas and I can't get past that this seems to just boil down to wishful thinking, woo woo, and we don't understand so it must be. "Physicists have been saying this for 100 years". Really? Not the ones I've learned from. Seems to me that a hell of a lot of work needs to be done on the subject still to demonstrate this. We don't understand conscientiousness yet but that doesn't mean we won't or can't. I'll read Iain's work but on the surface, this feels like the kind of bullshit Deepak Chopra frequently spews, just in a more professional presentation.
Do you really think we’ll ever understand consciousness? Can we really know ourselves? As it’s been said, fire doesn’t burn itself, the knife doesn’t cut itself, the eye doesn’t see itself.
My eye can see itself in the mirror. I can look at and into other people’s eyes. We can dissect eyes and experiment on them. Look, yes consciousness is a very interesting and difficult thing to understand but if our mindset is “we’ll never be able to understand it for x, y, and z reasons” then of course we won’t ever figure it out. What a terrible and depressing mindset to have about anything. I’d rather have an open and inquisitive mind and work a problem my whole life without success than the alternative.
@@alrdye Good luck with your objective analysis of something outside yourself that you aren’t certain is there.
@@michaelricketson1365Good luck to you as well with your bewilderment.
@@alrdye Yes, you’ve got it all figured out. 🙄