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@Daryl MC Death ScreenCrush will literally try to tear anything down to put something else up. They are both good and The Walking Dead lasted 11 seasons! Some shows don't even last 2...
Was just gonna say that. Up to 5 a little of 6 were pretty good. Then they tried to much. The Rick and his family then the governor. Then Rick just going savage in 4 and 5.
I am a fan of both. TWD worked really well & was a wonderful adaptation of comics, comparatively as good as The Last of Us adapted from game. Yes, TWD dragged in later seasons but it deserves all the praise.
I feel like Twd was an awful representation of the comics. I loved Rick in the comics and hated him in the show. He didn’t even have the same personality/stakes/or pain represented and this was the same with multiple characters
@@skeptickitty2958His counterpart in the comics was good but he got killed by a kid in his sleep bruh. He also lost an arm. I think the show version of Rick represented a bit more realism in his character as to how he does things and such. When you dive deeper to really learn him in the episodes he’s in you’d understand.
@@jesusknight8683 I’ve seen the entire show. Rick is by far my least favorite character. There is no realism in the character represented. This version of Rick would not be followed and would be killed very quickly in a zombie apocalypse. People just live Andrew Lincoln, he’s a good actor but a terrible Rick.
@@skeptickitty2958 i disagree with you. series rick was extremly realistic imo. just some guy trying to keep his family (most importantly his son) alive and constantly bouncing back between letting the post apocalyptic world get his sanity and trying everything to keep his humanity. he was a good leader, he made the hard decisions, he kept a lot of people alive, but he never threw out his morals.
@@godisverygay i gotta say Rick might be one of the best characters I’ve ever seen on TV. Andrew Lincoln portrays him perfectly and it’s a shame the show doesn’t get enough respect because of “Glenn and Abraham” even though that was adapted straight from the comics in an amazing, bold and unapologetic way.
Bro walking dead worked well enough for double digits seasons... Yes one was better than other but let's be real here. Walking dead was massively successful and the premier was one of the best I've ever seen
And if they hadn’t spun off “Fear” and just made it a “meanwhile” separate story line where they two stories overlap occasionally, I think they could’ve avoided a lot of the dilution.
Let's see in 13 years where The Last of Us is. It sure had a great start, but just like any show, I strongly doubt it can be as strong for 11 seasons. Comparing it 1 season of a show to 11 seasons of another is not fair.
So weird when TWD season 1 was not only more revered but a cultural impact in the world. Universal studios had an entire horror nights dedicated to them.
By the way spoilers for the last of us season 2... i tried my best to power off the pc or cover my ears but it was too late.... Its the first time i regret watching a screencrush video.... please ryan be more careful the next time, you should tell us from the start that you are ruining a crucial aspect of a story many of us dont know
It's not fair to compare the two mate. TWD had a decent run but they had to stretch the sht out of it for 20+ episodes each season because that was how most shows were made then.
The walking dead is a bit more believable and arent afraid to get gorry which i love. At the last episode in the last of us I think it was unrealistic how joel without a silencer and not by surprise killed like 10 soldiers no problem. In the walking dead atleast when Rick defeats an enemy or enemies he used his intelligence and his group so its more believable.
Now what we not going to do is lie. Seasons 1-5 were PERFECT scary, emotional. Tense. Drama twists. There were episodes I loved in season one of TLOU but it’s no comparison because it went well
Agreed! I'd say season 9 and 10 were great too imo. I really don't understand why we can't just agree that both TWD and TLOU are great in their own rights without stamping one of them of as "failures" when that is so far from the truth smh.
Walking dead was a way different show. People became attached to multiple characters. Where as LOU Joel was the main reason ppl watched. Although Walking Dead was based on a comic book toward the end, it became even more cartoonish than the comic. Hopefully, LOU stays grounded & doesn't become desperate like. Also, Rick's personality yo-yo'd from season to season Joelnwont be around that long.😊
I don't understand the hate TWD gets. From start to finish the show was incredible! The character growth, the villains, everything was amazing! TWD deserves way more praise than it gets. I can't wait for the new spin off shows! 😁 P.S. all I could think during the last episode of The Last Of Us when Joel was gunning everyone down in the hospital...the whole time I was thinking, "Joel is going full Rick Grimes!" 🤣
Just like I don't get the praise TLOU gets. I absolutely hate time-skips in post-apocalyptic settings (let alone a 20 year skip). The acting was good, but was expecting more from the whole "have to get the immune one to XYZ location". Rewatched season 1 of TWD right after finishing TLOU. Based on a single season for both series. TWD wins by miles.
The main show did go on way to long but the series finale hit the landing for me at least...but fear has never got old to me every season or two they shake this up in a major way
Negan had the best arc. Man made us love him for being a bad ass, then got us to love him again for turning into a better person, while still being a bad ass
The main difference between the 2 were TLoU stayed closer to the source material. That and TWD actually had monsters in the majority of the series. We all get the living are the real monsters but we tune in for the zombies/infected.
I really wish you had put a spoiler warning at the beginning of the video. I didn’t play the game, so I’ve tried to keep blinders on. The warning popped up pretty quick. Oh well.
I'd say the last three seasons were still great tbh, especially season 9 and 10 and the show is still very popular and successful, but I agree that they made some really questionable decisions in season 7-8 for some reason and that's such a shame.
Walking Dead dragged the storylines for too long, the conflict with Kathleen and the fireflies would’ve taken a whole damn season if it was on WD, TLoU goes straight from point A to point B.
Both have its positives and negatives, the Kathleen story had so much to tell so it could’ve benefited from that. The last us us skips over a lot of other parts of the game so there’s that too. A to b storytelling, but cuts out great character growth
I watched both and they both have great storylines. It's in the same genre. I am a HUGE fan of TWD and I met the cast especially the elusive Andy, I own the DVD's and I think I've watched each Episode at least 6-10 times. It's an Amazing character evolution fron Season 1 to the end, especially with Andrew Lincoln (Rick). TLOU... Same concept but lacked zombie- creatures- clickers. We got them at the beginning plus an explanation of how they function but they faded away as the show went on. In TWD the walkers were a threat throughout the series and the characters learned how to deal with them as time went on. There was Less character development in TLOU, Joel went from one extreme to another in Quicker time, it was only 9 eps long and he went from being quiet and annoyed to more acceptable of what his mission was in that he had to protect Ellie where it took Rick 9 seasons to go through what he went to through to get to where he was before being "taken" in ep5 Season 9 and Rick had to lead a whole entire group straight from the gate. The character development of Rick was amazing. Andy had to reconstruct his character from the 1st 6 episodes to the final 6 eps of each season for 9 seasons. That's talent. TWD has more detail and longer character arcs and slower paced. You see the characters progress and digress and go down different paths of emotions... Highs and lows depending on their losses and situations each character was put into. As a fan, observer we got more attached to TWD characters than we did TLOU characters. TLOU lacked that pace and it was more Joel is like this "now" and Ellie is like this "now" but last episode he was like "that" and she was like "that" leaving us wandering why they are acting different from one ep to another. We didn't really get the in-between visuals and understanding but it was left up to assumptions and I felt Joel wasn't attentive to Ellie having to deal with cannibals and almost being eaten and raped. It would have been nice to see that interaction and discussion but He just waved spaghetti o's in her face and showed her a giraffe. I will say He did kick Ass for her at the end, he saved her but IMO it's Swiss Cheese writing with a ton of todays propaganda weaved in. If i had to choose between the 2 it's TWD all the way.
It worked until season 7 episode 2... The saviors war dragged on way too long, and there were too many communities to follow. Still a great show, and the first season of Last Of Us was some of the best stuff I've seen in a long, long time 💯
@@georgelioulias3879 Yeah, it really was a great show in the beginning. Killing off Carl, was a ridiculous idea. I actually think that contributed to Andrew Lincoln leaving the show. Scott Gimple sucks as a show runner
The Walking Dead went on for 11 seasons, had one spin off that's about to hit 8, two other spin offs, a couple (middling) video games, and none of this is even touching the comic book side of this. It hardly failed.
Wym one didn’t work TWD first six seasons were freaking great , that’s the first season of the last of us . Last of Us was good but nowhere near comparable to TWD season 1-4
Because people started getting bored with TWD and stopped watching.... Yeah, the first seasons were good, but they dragged it way longer than it should have.
For real. 1000% It has great actors, great acting, awesome storylines, nice plots. It has romance, suspense, action, sometimes comedy. The Walking Dead will always be better
Rick didn't become a bad man , he was a man trying to keep his humanity and he did,like how in the walking dead noone would think it ok to kill a child for the possibility it might help with a cure,the last of us people think Joel's a bad man for that ,its madness.
A lot of people seem to have lost faith in the series when Negan killed a couple of the main characters. My point was a bit before that. The "Glenn death fakeout" was my moment. After a season that included "The Grove", one of the greatest hours of TV, they decided a nice little camera deception would be a great idea. To go so high to creep so low...
I agree that they made some really weird and questionable writing decisions during the Negan arc, but season 9 and 10 were great in my opinion or at the very least MUCH better in comparison, I'd recommend checking them out tbh.
We'll also have to see how season 2+ goes on. The 2nd game had way more controversial reception. I think it is great but they will have their hands full trying to cover it
To be fair, that first season of the walking dead was fire. The first episode of walking dead, in my opinion, is one of the best adaptions from comic to TV I've seen. If Last of US, dragged on for 8 more season this show will suffer the same fate. Honestly after finishing the second game, i am genuinely curious how the 2nd season of TLOU will be viewed by the general audience.
Why one worked and one didn't? Bro, Walking Dead was on the air for more than 10 seasons! That's a long ways away from "didn't work." No. The post apocalyptic survival drama adaptation that, quote, "didn't work," was Sweet Tooth. A show that, after spending years in development hell, is JUST NOW about to get its second season. Something that's probably only happening now, due to Netflix noticing the success of an adaptation like the Last of Us. Which is what Sweet Tooth was essentially trying to be, before Netflix gave up on it prematurely.
My favorite TWD motto I had on a shirt. “Fight the Dead, Fear the Living.” When they started laughing nukes from beached submarines…they even lost me as a faithful watcher.
TWD was my favorite TV series ever at one point. For me, it fell off in Season 7 & 8, they dragged Negan on way too long & killing Carl off was like killing off the whole point of the show. Rick's whole reason for surviving was Carl. I stopped watching after Season 10, then I recently just watched the very last episode just to watch it. TWD is still the best zombie series ever imo. Me & my family used to get together on Sunday nights just to watch it as if it were the Superbowl. A lot of people are claiming that the Korean zombie shows "Kingdom" & "All of Us Are Dead" are better that TWD. Imo, Kingdom Season 1 was solid but Season 2 is already starting to fall off imo. As for AOUAD, it was just okay, I really didn't think it was all that. And this is coming from a Korean movie lover, who thinks Koreans produces the best movies. TWD is still the King of zombie series. I think TLOU is good so far, but I think having played the game & already knowing the story makes me not enjoy it as much. If it was a fresh experience for me, I might love it more. I also dislike that the infected didn't really feel like a threat, they should've had more of them.
I started watching twd when I was 5 in 2010. It scared me a bit for the first 3 seasons, but I’ve rewatched the show hundreds of time. I’m actually on s5 rn, but twd is my favorite show of all time. It has a very very exciting future with the shows. Now that the lead actors have a role in the production of the show is major. I have faith these next twd shows will be top tier
If Joel doesn’t die until season 3 then they wouldn’t have even started adapting the second game yet. I think we might get a few more episodes at most but he’s still heading out in the front half of season 2.
We only had one season of "The Last of Us" so it's still too soon to say it worked. The walking dead, had a few seasons that were not popular but in my opinion it's the show that paved the way for other shows. Time will tell.
I tried really hard to stay with The Walking Dead because I hit the ground running as a fan, but after every season I would kind of love it last of us. Seasons four and five will probably be a High Point for me because of the contrast between they were vs who they are now, but I pretty much turned it off on a cliffhanger episode where Rick chases Negan, but never felt the urge to put it on again. I really appreciated the novelty of a zombie show but it started feeling like Grey’s Anatomy, where they were introduced somebody, shared their backstory then decide if they get to live or die, which is just a gimmick to make you feel like you lost a friend, or feel safe, because your friend survived. Then feel like that was an emotional rollercoaster.
Same! I really loved it, but then it just seemed to start to drag on. I stopped watching and was never interested enough to start again. I try sometimes, but the thought of doing it feels like punishment or work.
I think The Walking Dead worked because they had viewers for around 7 years then everyone kinda stopped but whenever season 10 came out that is when the views went up, they also have like 5 spin-offs and 11 seasons and millions of dollars. I think it worked pretty well.
I believe another reason TWD’s rating suffered was due to the split season thing they would do. Multiple month break between the first half and second half of the season hurt their retention of casual fans. It was so confusing to keep interest and understand what happened previously.
Based on how the first season of TLOU progressed I'm guessing the people in charge of this can effectively take us through this story at a pace that's both good for the gamers and the people who haven't experienced the game. But things can always change, time will tell!
Not really... I'm not watching part 2. As someone who played the first game, the pace of the show was terrible and barely no zombies. So why tf would I give a shit ab Joel and Ellie.... Especially Elliee without Joel.
I liked both. Sadly, I never finished the walking dead once rick left i just couldn't get into it. And my issue with the last of us apart from not liking the second game is that I felt there was not enough infected in it.
One “works” because people are too blind to see the glaringly obvious issues with the show and keep using words like “faithful adaptation” and it’s a trend to think that even though it’s the furthest thing from the truth. As someone who has played TLOU 152 times I absolutely HATED the show. I will not be responding to any comments that are upset at me for not falling in line and consuming. Have a nice day everyone. 😊
I'm hoping The Last of Us follows the lead of Succession (my other favorite show) and doesn't go beyond four seasons. There's a lot to be said for leaving the viewers wanting more...
I think they are both great shows but, at least so far the last of us is keeping much closer to the game the walking dead did the comic they just expand on it more. The monster in TLOU are alot more scarier for sure ,but there is more of a focus on the people it seems you also have to consider the fact that TWD is much closer in time to the original outbreak, if you go another 8 years in the future, you would have much more of a government or military control then they do. Love them both both are similar but also very different in both the infected ,and state of the world.
The Walking Dead was arguably better than the Last of us if you just do a head to head of their respective season ones. It's the fact that WD didn't know when to stop that killed it. Had they skipped season 2 and ending after the governer, it would have been one of the best shows of all time.
@@kiyanwest149 95% or more of the people viewing didn't know that. Look what trying to do all the comic shit ended up doing... the show had lower numbers season after season. I loved it for as long as I could.
@@blaze556922 yea but alot of the viewers were also ones that read the comics and by season three they were a top 2 show its no way they would have done that with all the money they were making from it .. imo they should have shortened the negan arch by not having a lot of pointless episodes but overall the show was great ... and the views went down because alot of ppl were cutting back on cable and focusing more on streaming and even with that they still had more views than majority of the other shows out
DUDE. Did you even take a breath between "By the way, spoilers ahead for Last of Us 2" and the MAJOR spoiler? I barely had time to realize you meant The Last of Us Part 2 instead of The Last of Us "too"
The show runners for The Last of Us already said they're drastically changing the plot of season 2 from that of the second game after that majority of viewers taking a liking to Joel and Ellie's relationship in season 1. I'm pretty sure that means they're absolutely NOT going to kill off Joel's character anytime soon. If anything I predict they won't kill him until the end of the series or right before the last season at the soonest. The average viewer that never played the game will not want to watch the show without Pedro in it, nor those that hated this story arch from the second game. I could see them doing the Abby story still, but her not succeeding in killing Joel.
Ryan this is ridiculous.... We are going on almost 15 years of Walking Dead being on television and being in print even longer, and they are still making spin-offs and mini series. To say it failed, is egregious and laughable.
For anyone who has never seen The Walking Dead because you have been deterred by all the negative things about it, give it a shot. The reason people have so many negative things to say about the later seasons is because the first 5 or 6 seasons were incredible. The show suffered a massive fall from grace, but that doesn't take away from how good the show once was
I really wish y’all would warn us at the beginning of the video that there’s spoilers for The Last of Us 2/Season 2… 😢 I thought there was just going to be a straight comparison of the shows…
The Walking Dead was massive phenomenon that stretched on for 11 seasons, had about 4 spin-off shows (all successful, too), and half a dozen video game adaptions. Calling it a "failure" is actually an insane take
Walking Dead was a huge success. Survived 11 seasons when people stopped caring by season 6 or 7. I truthfully don't see last of us making it to season 5
If it doesn't, that will be because the creators don't intend for the story to go that long. My guess is it will go *until* a season 5 or so: Part II of the game will be seasons 2 and 3, and then I really would be surprised if a Part III doesn't happen, so I can see them releasing the game either shortly before or alongside a seasons 4 and 5 for the show. But beyond that, yeah, it probably wouldn't go on much longer, not out of any lack of interest or loss of viewership, but because the creators seem intent on keeping it a tight story that doesn't go on longer than it needs to. And for the record, I only ever saw season 1 of TWD so I can't comment on its quality as the seasons went on or anything, but just in general, I'd be pretty surprised if ANY serialized show could run for 11 seasons and not overstay it's welcome by the end. Game of Thrones is really the only one I can think of that would have benefited from that many seasons, simply because of how massive and complex the story is, but most stories just suffer from being drawn out that long.
Dear TWD fans, what Ryan said in this video was not a personal attack aimed at you. Someone disliking a show (or parts of a show) you enjoyed doesn't invalidate your feelings. The later stuff didn't get nearly the same ratings, nor the same level of praise. It's true, and it also doesn't invalidate your love for the show. I wish internet fandoms didn't take stuff so personally. Content creators gotta tiptoe around this stuff because even the slightest criticism sets people off. That's no fun for anybody.
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I think Joel's death will be the season 2 finale. Cliffhanger.
Dude, add the spoiler alert to the title. You gave us less than 12 parsecs to to grab the remote and stop it.
none of these failed...what a nonsensical video...
@Daryl MC Death ScreenCrush will literally try to tear anything down to put something else up. They are both good and The Walking Dead lasted 11 seasons! Some shows don't even last 2...
the walking dead will be more successful than tlou show ever will be lmao.
The Walking Dead dragged on; but it did work for quite a while.
The first 4 to 5 seasons of TWD were phenomenal.
It only dragged on with the saviour story. It got back to it's best when the whisperers arrived.
Was just gonna say that. Up to 5 a little of 6 were pretty good. Then they tried to much. The Rick and his family then the governor. Then Rick just going savage in 4 and 5.
The whole thing
After Glenn and Abraham died that was it for me...haven't watched another episode
TWD lost me around the middle/end of the prison arc. Think it was season 4.
The last of us has only had 1 season. The first season of the walking dead was amazing
I agree as well
I was gonna say “yeaaa we might want to wait until season 2 to make this comparison.”
I have a feeling these opinions are going to shift…
@@dustinairola4301 as soon as Pedro gets the golf club there will be alot of viewers that drop off
Was so slow, and the zombies were so bland. Characters all unlikeable.
@@debuthunter5389 TLOU or TWD?
TWD- 11 seasons, multiple spin-offs, and hundreds of millions in revenue... so far. I'd say they both worked out.
Just wait until the Rick & Michonne show comes out!! The show will be huge.
Yeah it's weird that this video is characterizing it as a "failure". The Last of Us is better sure, but The Walking Dead is not a failure at all.
@@victory7763 cant really compare 1 season to 11 seasons
Yeah and pro wrestling is really popular too😂
@sequoia1171 what an odd comment.
I'm not a walking dead fan but the show definitely worked for many many people
@bryce, you got that correct. I was a big fan of the TWD... Then it just turned into like a soap opera drama.
@@armynation31B5V5P to be fair after that second season of world beyond and the post credit scene setting up all 3 spinoffs I'm excited again
I've enjoyed ALL walking dead (Apart from world beyond)..Quite a bit more than The Last Of Us to be honest.
Ok
True but it was massively flawed. Many ppl voted for Trump too so support doesn’t always equal success
I am a fan of both. TWD worked really well & was a wonderful adaptation of comics, comparatively as good as The Last of Us adapted from game. Yes, TWD dragged in later seasons but it deserves all the praise.
I feel like Twd was an awful representation of the comics. I loved Rick in the comics and hated him in the show. He didn’t even have the same personality/stakes/or pain represented and this was the same with multiple characters
@@skeptickitty2958His counterpart in the comics was good but he got killed by a kid in his sleep bruh. He also lost an arm. I think the show version of Rick represented a bit more realism in his character as to how he does things and such. When you dive deeper to really learn him in the episodes he’s in you’d understand.
@@jesusknight8683 I’ve seen the entire show. Rick is by far my least favorite character. There is no realism in the character represented. This version of Rick would not be followed and would be killed very quickly in a zombie apocalypse. People just live Andrew Lincoln, he’s a good actor but a terrible Rick.
@@skeptickitty2958 i disagree with you. series rick was extremly realistic imo. just some guy trying to keep his family (most importantly his son) alive and constantly bouncing back between letting the post apocalyptic world get his sanity and trying everything to keep his humanity. he was a good leader, he made the hard decisions, he kept a lot of people alive, but he never threw out his morals.
@@godisverygay i gotta say Rick might be one of the best characters I’ve ever seen on TV. Andrew Lincoln portrays him perfectly and it’s a shame the show doesn’t get enough respect because of “Glenn and Abraham” even though that was adapted straight from the comics in an amazing, bold and unapologetic way.
Bro walking dead worked well enough for double digits seasons... Yes one was better than other but let's be real here. Walking dead was massively successful and the premier was one of the best I've ever seen
Right
Agree here. We hosted people at he house and watched together. The walking dead was very good early. Carl was killed off and Rick left and I left.
Yea bro, what the hell bro? Broooo
TWD season 1-4 were better than TLOS first season
@@dddon513 couldn't have said it better myself bro
The Walking Dead was still pulling views similar or more then the recent Star Wars shows even after 12 years on TV. I think it worked
Even at its lowest ratings, it was by far one of the most popular shows on TV and by parrot analytics.
Nobody knew that it ended lmao
I mean enough people tuned in for The walking Dead to get ordered back to tv for 13 years
Yea didn’t work is a complete exaggeration
And if they hadn’t spun off “Fear” and just made it a “meanwhile” separate story line where they two stories overlap occasionally, I think they could’ve avoided a lot of the dilution.
Watch the video its a bad title
Let's see in 13 years where The Last of Us is. It sure had a great start, but just like any show, I strongly doubt it can be as strong for 11 seasons. Comparing it 1 season of a show to 11 seasons of another is not fair.
Same could be said about the Kardashians 🤦♂️😂
So weird when TWD season 1 was not only more revered but a cultural impact in the world. Universal studios had an entire horror nights dedicated to them.
To be fair TWD worked VERY well for a VERY long time.
well, it was the number one series on tv for over a decade so i think a lot of people would beg to differ
facts ..
Actually ratings wise, The Big Bang Theory was number 1 during that time… not a fan of the show but numbers don’t lie
@@heberherrera939 alright, fine, number one drama
@@kingsofthegridiron if you think the Walking Dead was bad you have poor taste to the fullest.
@@kingsofthegridiron homie, you outa have your fingers cut off
The sheer speed you went from saying "spoilers ahead for The last of us Part II" and indeed spoiling it was impressive.
Yeah, no time to grab the remote so I heard it, then a couple minutes later (when I thought he was done) he added to the spoiler with more detail.
@@jennycraigadventures3314 same ! shame on you ryan ari
By the way spoilers for the last of us season 2... i tried my best to power off the pc or cover my ears but it was too late.... Its the first time i regret watching a screencrush video.... please ryan be more careful the next time, you should tell us from the start that you are ruining a crucial aspect of a story many of us dont know
Yeah waaaay too quick.
Oh well, maybe I’ll forget by the time we finally see S2.
TWD didn’t fail. I loved almost all of it except world beyond and am still excited for the last season of fear and the new spinoffs
It did kinda fail. Because losing millions of viewers, is kinda a fail
@@gobbysopps4224 27 total seasons across 7 shows is a raging success. Still very profitable no doubt or they wouldn’t be getting more spin-offs.
@@coryascott27?
@@HyperSniperPlayzcombing every single season across every single spinoff and the main show
I can’t believe Andrew Lincoln hasn’t won an award for his role as Rick!
TWD literally one of the best TV shows of all time. And Rick Grimes is easily the goat of Tv
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TWD ran for over a decade. It made hundreds of millions of dollars. It did not fail.
Both are amazing. Don't care what anyone says. And whether u like it or not the walking dead changed the TV game forever
The walking dead had at least ten seasons that's far from a failure.
*Spoilers*, then proceeds to issue spoiler with no time to pause lol 😂 😭
SERIOUSLY!!!! Horrible.
Definitely The Walking Dead
That “spoilers ahead” warning was way too quick. Cmon man
It's not fair to compare the two mate. TWD had a decent run but they had to stretch the sht out of it for 20+ episodes each season because that was how most shows were made then.
They only did one season with more than 16 episodes because it was the final season and they added a half season.
Haven’t watched even a minute into the video but imma say BOTH SUCCEEDED!!!! neither one of them failed…thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
The walking dead is a bit more believable and arent afraid to get gorry which i love. At the last episode in the last of us I think it was unrealistic how joel without a silencer and not by surprise killed like 10 soldiers no problem. In the walking dead atleast when Rick defeats an enemy or enemies he used his intelligence and his group so its more believable.
The Walking Dead 👍🏼
Now what we not going to do is lie. Seasons 1-5 were PERFECT scary, emotional. Tense. Drama twists.
There were episodes I loved in season one of TLOU but it’s no comparison because it went well
Agreed! I'd say season 9 and 10 were great too imo. I really don't understand why we can't just agree that both TWD and TLOU are great in their own rights without stamping one of them of as "failures" when that is so far from the truth smh.
The Walking Dead Beats them all..final
Walking dead was a way different show. People became attached to multiple characters. Where as LOU Joel was the main reason ppl watched. Although Walking Dead was based on a comic book toward the end, it became even more cartoonish than the comic. Hopefully, LOU stays grounded & doesn't become desperate like. Also, Rick's personality yo-yo'd from season to season Joelnwont be around that long.😊
I don't understand the hate TWD gets. From start to finish the show was incredible! The character growth, the villains, everything was amazing! TWD deserves way more praise than it gets. I can't wait for the new spin off shows! 😁
P.S. all I could think during the last episode of The Last Of Us when Joel was gunning everyone down in the hospital...the whole time I was thinking, "Joel is going full Rick Grimes!" 🤣
Joel does not have Rick's eyes...even in the last season scene He didn't say a word but his eyes said many so hyping things
Just like I don't get the praise TLOU gets. I absolutely hate time-skips in post-apocalyptic settings (let alone a 20 year skip). The acting was good, but was expecting more from the whole "have to get the immune one to XYZ location".
Rewatched season 1 of TWD right after finishing TLOU. Based on a single season for both series. TWD wins by miles.
It's the trendy thing to do for normies these days. Real fans of the genre know how much of a masterpiece the first 5 seasons were.
@@jaytomson3492 I found it even less intresting then the Abhram /Rosita
The main show did go on way to long but the series finale hit the landing for me at least...but fear has never got old to me every season or two they shake this up in a major way
Exactly
I'm so annoyed with Fear but I can't stop watching. Somehow it just seems to get worse and there's no continuity.
Let’s be real season 1 of TWD > season 1 of TLOU
TWD season 1-4 > sesson 1 of TLOU
na to me season one of TLOU is better than season one of the walking dead but I still prefer twd easily
10 x
That was not a long time between "BTW spoilers ahead for TLOU2" and the actual spoilers...
Negan's arc in TWD is pretty awesome IMO.
Negan had the best arc. Man made us love him for being a bad ass, then got us to love him again for turning into a better person, while still being a bad ass
TWD definitely worked. 11 seasons, spin-off shows, spin-off movies. Maybe you didn't like but lot of people did
Don’t rip on the walking dead, one of the best shows ever
Loved it and Fear the Walking Dead.
The main difference between the 2 were TLoU stayed closer to the source material. That and TWD actually had monsters in the majority of the series.
We all get the living are the real monsters but we tune in for the zombies/infected.
I really wish you had put a spoiler warning at the beginning of the video. I didn’t play the game, so I’ve tried to keep blinders on. The warning popped up pretty quick. Oh well.
without watching the video, this title makes no sense
I think what killed the walking dead was losing Carl - he was the secret protagonist the whole time, and the future, and after that nothing mattered
I'd say the last three seasons were still great tbh, especially season 9 and 10 and the show is still very popular and successful, but I agree that they made some really questionable decisions in season 7-8 for some reason and that's such a shame.
Walking Dead dragged the storylines for too long, the conflict with Kathleen and the fireflies would’ve taken a whole damn season if it was on WD, TLoU goes straight from point A to point B.
Both have its positives and negatives, the Kathleen story had so much to tell so it could’ve benefited from that. The last us us skips over a lot of other parts of the game so there’s that too. A to b storytelling, but cuts out great character growth
Yeah but the show had the game to fall back on and it was definitely a bit overrushed
@@Dan55888 Just like TWD with its comics
The walking dead was amazing for a while. It just went on for too long. The ending was pretty good.
I watched both and they both have great storylines. It's in the same genre. I am a HUGE fan of TWD and I met the cast especially the elusive Andy, I own the DVD's and I think I've watched each Episode at least 6-10 times. It's an Amazing character evolution fron Season 1 to the end, especially with Andrew Lincoln (Rick).
TLOU... Same concept but lacked zombie- creatures- clickers. We got them at the beginning plus an explanation of how they function but they faded away as the show went on. In TWD the walkers were a threat throughout the series and the characters learned how to deal with them as time went on. There was Less character development in TLOU, Joel went from one extreme to another in Quicker time, it was only 9 eps long and he went from being quiet and annoyed to more acceptable of what his mission was in that he had to protect Ellie where it took Rick 9 seasons to go through what he went to through to get to where he was before being "taken" in ep5 Season 9 and Rick had to lead a whole entire group straight from the gate. The character development of Rick was amazing. Andy had to reconstruct his character from the 1st 6 episodes to the final 6 eps of each season for 9 seasons. That's talent.
TWD has more detail and longer character arcs and slower paced. You see the characters progress and digress and go down different paths of emotions... Highs and lows depending on their losses and situations each character was put into. As a fan, observer we got more attached to TWD characters than we did TLOU characters.
TLOU lacked that pace and it was more Joel is like this "now" and Ellie is like this "now" but last episode he was like "that" and she was like "that" leaving us wandering why they are acting different from one ep to another. We didn't really get the in-between visuals and understanding but it was left up to assumptions and I felt Joel wasn't attentive to Ellie having to deal with cannibals and almost being eaten and raped. It would have been nice to see that interaction and discussion but He just waved spaghetti o's in her face and showed her a giraffe.
I will say He did kick Ass for her at the end, he saved her but IMO it's Swiss Cheese writing with a ton of todays propaganda weaved in.
If i had to choose between the 2 it's TWD all the way.
It worked until season 7 episode 2... The saviors war dragged on way too long, and there were too many communities to follow. Still a great show, and the first season of Last Of Us was some of the best stuff I've seen in a long, long time 💯
Hey thats exactly when i stopped watching twd! Which is a shame cause season 1 is the best tv i ve ever witnessed...
@@georgelioulias3879 Yeah, it really was a great show in the beginning. Killing off Carl, was a ridiculous idea. I actually think that contributed to Andrew Lincoln leaving the show. Scott Gimple sucks as a show runner
Who said TWD not worked... Damn "Negan" is Legit actor ❤
The Walking Dead went on for 11 seasons, had one spin off that's about to hit 8, two other spin offs, a couple (middling) video games, and none of this is even touching the comic book side of this. It hardly failed.
Wym one didn’t work TWD first six seasons were freaking great , that’s the first season of the last of us . Last of Us was good but nowhere near comparable to TWD season 1-4
Because people started getting bored with TWD and stopped watching.... Yeah, the first seasons were good, but they dragged it way longer than it should have.
The walking dead will always be better
For real. 1000% It has great actors, great acting, awesome storylines, nice plots. It has romance, suspense, action, sometimes comedy. The Walking Dead will always be better
Rick didn't become a bad man , he was a man trying to keep his humanity and he did,like how in the walking dead noone would think it ok to kill a child for the possibility it might help with a cure,the last of us people think Joel's a bad man for that ,its madness.
There was a dip in writing quality and budget for 2 seasons before it started being good again. I don’t get how it failed in any regard beyond that.
A lot of people seem to have lost faith in the series when Negan killed a couple of the main characters. My point was a bit before that. The "Glenn death fakeout" was my moment. After a season that included "The Grove", one of the greatest hours of TV, they decided a nice little camera deception would be a great idea. To go so high to creep so low...
I agree that they made some really weird and questionable writing decisions during the Negan arc, but season 9 and 10 were great in my opinion or at the very least MUCH better in comparison, I'd recommend checking them out tbh.
We'll also have to see how season 2+ goes on. The 2nd game had way more controversial reception. I think it is great but they will have their hands full trying to cover it
Folks gonna be upset
To be fair, that first season of the walking dead was fire. The first episode of walking dead, in my opinion, is one of the best adaptions from comic to TV I've seen. If Last of US, dragged on for 8 more season this show will suffer the same fate. Honestly after finishing the second game, i am genuinely curious how the 2nd season of TLOU will be viewed by the general audience.
TWD in general is better than TLOU
Walking dead got stale after a few seasons for me. But let's not act like it didn't work
The Walking Dead was awesome. Yes, season 8 was slow but it came back strong.
At least Rick didn't get murdered by a golf club😂😂😂😂
Mannn Rick's fate in the comics read even more disrespectful. 😬
@@BoydOfPray 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I forgot about his fate. all I remember is Rick Killing Dwight .
@@trevorwalton5431 Little punk kid creeps in and shoots him in his bed!
TWD is and it always be my favorite tv show
I care about the walking dead and I'm excited for the rick show and I saw they are filming already
Why one worked and one didn't? Bro, Walking Dead was on the air for more than 10 seasons! That's a long ways away from "didn't work." No. The post apocalyptic survival drama adaptation that, quote, "didn't work," was Sweet Tooth. A show that, after spending years in development hell, is JUST NOW about to get its second season. Something that's probably only happening now, due to Netflix noticing the success of an adaptation like the Last of Us. Which is what Sweet Tooth was essentially trying to be, before Netflix gave up on it prematurely.
My favorite TWD motto I had on a shirt. “Fight the Dead, Fear the Living.” When they started laughing nukes from beached submarines…they even lost me as a faithful watcher.
Thats fear not The main series
@@popcorndays786 I know that, just saying it’s all in the same universe.
wait.... i thought both worked? :O
Ughhh...did you just spoil Joel's storyline? You said "spoilers", I reached to mute but nooo, not fast enough 😡😭
When TWD and GOT was at their peaks that was some of the greatest TV of all time.
Oh nooo I didn't react fast enough to the spoiler warning.
TWD was my favorite TV series ever at one point. For me, it fell off in Season 7 & 8, they dragged Negan on way too long & killing Carl off was like killing off the whole point of the show. Rick's whole reason for surviving was Carl. I stopped watching after Season 10, then I recently just watched the very last episode just to watch it. TWD is still the best zombie series ever imo. Me & my family used to get together on Sunday nights just to watch it as if it were the Superbowl. A lot of people are claiming that the Korean zombie shows "Kingdom" & "All of Us Are Dead" are better that TWD. Imo, Kingdom Season 1 was solid but Season 2 is already starting to fall off imo. As for AOUAD, it was just okay, I really didn't think it was all that. And this is coming from a Korean movie lover, who thinks Koreans produces the best movies. TWD is still the King of zombie series. I think TLOU is good so far, but I think having played the game & already knowing the story makes me not enjoy it as much. If it was a fresh experience for me, I might love it more. I also dislike that the infected didn't really feel like a threat, they should've had more of them.
Damn. That was one hell of a major spoiler ☹️
I started watching twd when I was 5 in 2010. It scared me a bit for the first 3 seasons, but I’ve rewatched the show hundreds of time. I’m actually on s5 rn, but twd is my favorite show of all time. It has a very very exciting future with the shows. Now that the lead actors have a role in the production of the show is major. I have faith these next twd shows will be top tier
That spoiler warning SUCKED! 😒 RIP Joel! 😢
If Joel doesn’t die until season 3 then they wouldn’t have even started adapting the second game yet. I think we might get a few more episodes at most but he’s still heading out in the front half of season 2.
We only had one season of "The Last of Us" so it's still too soon to say it worked. The walking dead, had a few seasons that were not popular but in my opinion it's the show that paved the way for other shows. Time will tell.
I tried really hard to stay with The Walking Dead because I hit the ground running as a fan, but after every season I would kind of love it last of us. Seasons four and five will probably be a High Point for me because of the contrast between they were vs who they are now, but I pretty much turned it off on a cliffhanger episode where Rick chases Negan, but never felt the urge to put it on again. I really appreciated the novelty of a zombie show but it started feeling like Grey’s Anatomy, where they were introduced somebody, shared their backstory then decide if they get to live or die, which is just a gimmick to make you feel like you lost a friend, or feel safe, because your friend survived. Then feel like that was an emotional rollercoaster.
Less and less* not last of us. Auto correct is out of control.
Same! I really loved it, but then it just seemed to start to drag on. I stopped watching and was never interested enough to start again. I try sometimes, but the thought of doing it feels like punishment or work.
"We were on a break!" 🤣 great insert. Your team is on it lol
Both are awesome.i loved shows post apocalyptic about zombies and huge fan of video games my favorite is the last of us
I think The Walking Dead worked because they had viewers for around 7 years then everyone kinda stopped but whenever season 10 came out that is when the views went up, they also have like 5 spin-offs and 11 seasons and millions of dollars. I think it worked pretty well.
I believe another reason TWD’s rating suffered was due to the split season thing they would do. Multiple month break between the first half and second half of the season hurt their retention of casual fans. It was so confusing to keep interest and understand what happened previously.
One thing for TWD, they had Andrew Lincoln, any other show, he would've been nomed for a Emmy
Based on how the first season of TLOU progressed I'm guessing the people in charge of this can effectively take us through this story at a pace that's both good for the gamers and the people who haven't experienced the game. But things can always change, time will tell!
Not really... I'm not watching part 2.
As someone who played the first game, the pace of the show was terrible and barely no zombies. So why tf would I give a shit ab Joel and Ellie.... Especially Elliee without Joel.
I liked both. Sadly, I never finished the walking dead once rick left i just couldn't get into it. And my issue with the last of us apart from not liking the second game is that I felt there was not enough infected in it.
Damn I agree with this. It's true, we rarely see the infected. Season 1 focused on different communities.
One “works” because people are too blind to see the glaringly obvious issues with the show and keep using words like “faithful adaptation” and it’s a trend to think that even though it’s the furthest thing from the truth. As someone who has played TLOU 152 times I absolutely HATED the show. I will not be responding to any comments that are upset at me for not falling in line and consuming. Have a nice day everyone. 😊
I'm hoping The Last of Us follows the lead of Succession (my other favorite show) and doesn't go beyond four seasons. There's a lot to be said for leaving the viewers wanting more...
I think they are both great shows but, at least so far the last of us is keeping much closer to the game the walking dead did the comic they just expand on it more. The monster in TLOU are alot more scarier for sure ,but there is more of a focus on the people it seems you also have to consider the fact that TWD is much closer in time to the original outbreak, if you go another 8 years in the future, you would have much more of a government or military control then they do. Love them both both are similar but also very different in both the infected ,and state of the world.
The Last of Us is the only zombie show I’ve watched that has only a handful of zombies throughout the entire season 😂
The Walking Dead was arguably better than the Last of us if you just do a head to head of their respective season ones. It's the fact that WD didn't know when to stop that killed it. Had they skipped season 2 and ending after the governer, it would have been one of the best shows of all time.
how ? thats not even a quarter of what happened in the comics
@@kiyanwest149 95% or more of the people viewing didn't know that. Look what trying to do all the comic shit ended up doing... the show had lower numbers season after season. I loved it for as long as I could.
@@blaze556922 yea but alot of the viewers were also ones that read the comics and by season three they were a top 2 show its no way they would have done that with all the money they were making from it .. imo they should have shortened the negan arch by not having a lot of pointless episodes but overall the show was great ... and the views went down because alot of ppl were cutting back on cable and focusing more on streaming and even with that they still had more views than majority of the other shows out
@@kiyanwest149 yea too many shows hang on too long even if they have a great cast and premise. I stopped watching after Karl died.
Run time and source material are the key
The walking dead was good for a few seasons because they cast Simon from the show "Teachers" such a good actor whatever his name is lol
love them both..
DUDE. Did you even take a breath between "By the way, spoilers ahead for Last of Us 2" and the MAJOR spoiler? I barely had time to realize you meant The Last of Us Part 2 instead of The Last of Us "too"
The show runners for The Last of Us already said they're drastically changing the plot of season 2 from that of the second game after that majority of viewers taking a liking to Joel and Ellie's relationship in season 1. I'm pretty sure that means they're absolutely NOT going to kill off Joel's character anytime soon. If anything I predict they won't kill him until the end of the series or right before the last season at the soonest. The average viewer that never played the game will not want to watch the show without Pedro in it, nor those that hated this story arch from the second game. I could see them doing the Abby story still, but her not succeeding in killing Joel.
coping hard I see. Emergency Awesome is full of shit, he doesn't have access to the scripts.
Joel is the best character of all time.
Nah, murder Rick with his murder jacket and murder machete was the best Rick. He bit that man’s throat off!
Walking Dead worked for me. I love every season of it and thought the series finale was absolutely perfect and beautiful
I even enjoyed Fear The Walking Dead more than the Last Of Us
Ryan this is ridiculous.... We are going on almost 15 years of Walking Dead being on television and being in print even longer, and they are still making spin-offs and mini series. To say it failed, is egregious and laughable.
The walking dead is the most successful show on AMC so I’m pretty sure it worked
For anyone who has never seen The Walking Dead because you have been deterred by all the negative things about it, give it a shot. The reason people have so many negative things to say about the later seasons is because the first 5 or 6 seasons were incredible. The show suffered a massive fall from grace, but that doesn't take away from how good the show once was
exactly . season 1-7 to me is hard to be better than
Not watched the vid but the title is way off. TWD was incredible for 5, 6 seasons. It only fell apart when Kirkman left the writers room after S5.
I really wish y’all would warn us at the beginning of the video that there’s spoilers for The Last of Us 2/Season 2… 😢 I thought there was just going to be a straight comparison of the shows…
The Walking Dead was massive phenomenon that stretched on for 11 seasons, had about 4 spin-off shows (all successful, too), and half a dozen video game adaptions. Calling it a "failure" is actually an insane take
When the bat-wielding, knee-bending, over-acting “Negan” entered TWD I was done.
Walking Dead was a huge success. Survived 11 seasons when people stopped caring by season 6 or 7. I truthfully don't see last of us making it to season 5
If it doesn't, that will be because the creators don't intend for the story to go that long. My guess is it will go *until* a season 5 or so: Part II of the game will be seasons 2 and 3, and then I really would be surprised if a Part III doesn't happen, so I can see them releasing the game either shortly before or alongside a seasons 4 and 5 for the show. But beyond that, yeah, it probably wouldn't go on much longer, not out of any lack of interest or loss of viewership, but because the creators seem intent on keeping it a tight story that doesn't go on longer than it needs to.
And for the record, I only ever saw season 1 of TWD so I can't comment on its quality as the seasons went on or anything, but just in general, I'd be pretty surprised if ANY serialized show could run for 11 seasons and not overstay it's welcome by the end. Game of Thrones is really the only one I can think of that would have benefited from that many seasons, simply because of how massive and complex the story is, but most stories just suffer from being drawn out that long.
Why would you spoil the show for those who never played the game! 🤷♂️ That was a real 🤬 move!
Dear TWD fans, what Ryan said in this video was not a personal attack aimed at you. Someone disliking a show (or parts of a show) you enjoyed doesn't invalidate your feelings. The later stuff didn't get nearly the same ratings, nor the same level of praise. It's true, and it also doesn't invalidate your love for the show.
I wish internet fandoms didn't take stuff so personally. Content creators gotta tiptoe around this stuff because even the slightest criticism sets people off. That's no fun for anybody.