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Boulder Dash Titan Track Review | How did Lake Compounce's Famous Wood Coaster Change in 2023?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ค. 2023
- Boulder Dash at Lake Compounce has been voted annually as one of the world's best wooden roller coasters. But there have been some big changes in 2023. The ride received 580 feet of steel Titan Track, several trees have been removed, and a new ramp is being built into the station most likely for Speedy Pass. Find out if these changes are good or bad in this review.
I have a full in-depth review of Boulder Dash already posted ( • Boulder Dash Review & ... . This video covers the 2023 specific changes.
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Personally, as long as the layout and scenery remains I can’t complain about the switch to titan track. As much as i’m excited to reride smoother versions of Boulder Dash and Wildcat, I am also looking forward to whatever coasters get added next to the park. Even though it may take decades, this park could have a really good lineup…depending on how much land there is.
There's a huge clearing around the lake right now so hopefully something new is coming.
Boulder Dash really made me appreciate the aggressiveness a wooden coaster can have, but I just want a good all around ride whether it be wood or steel.
That's how I feel.
I was at Silver Dollar City last weekend, and I lost count of how many times I overheard people referring to Thunderation as a wooden coaster, so you're right that no matter what, many people will always see Boulder Dash as a woodie. But I would see it as a hybrid if they end up replacing most or all the track.
I don't like fast pass systems, with how they slow down the regular lines. Those are frustrating for regular visitors. But it would give me an option to be able to get several Boulder Dash rides on a future visit, instead of having to settle for only 2 rides like last time.
Boulder Dash almost always has a line so I get the appeal for people who infrequently visit.
A benefit of doing it over a longer period of time would also be that they could develop the track more and improve on the design.
Possibly!
If you're correct about the ride slowly getting more Titan track over the years, I've gotta get on this thing fast! I'm only three hours south, so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle. Possibly for the ACE event in July
At least the forces shouldn't be ruined with Titan Track.
I have such mixed emotions about all this. Boulder Dash is potentially one of the best coasters in the world, let alone New England, but the increasing roughness of it was becoming a real problem. The last time I was there, I realized I'd enjoyed riding Phobia Phear Coaster more than I did Boulder Dash, and that's not right. But is Titan Track the *best* answer? Making Boulder Dash, effectively, not a woodie? It seems unfortunate, all around. I kind of wish they'd given Gravity Group's new prefab wood retrack a try. But if this makes Boulder Dash less of a boneshaker, it's probably for the best.
On my last visit, Phobia was such a walk-on that it's hard for me to imagine Speedy Pass even mattering there--it seemed like too many people were afraid even to ride that coaster, true to its name. But Boulder Dash always has a long-ish line.
Phobia has such a short ride cycle and fast ops, so it can chew through more people than the woodies.
A woman I know rode Boulder Dash without issue in the early 2000s. Two years ago, now in her 30s, she rode it and actually ended up with a mild concussion - classic symptoms of sustained headache, stomach queasiness - later diagnosed by her doctor. Part of this was her body/anatomy/brain, being older. But she also said the ride seemed a lot rougher.
I would hate it if Boulder Dash got entirely retracked with titan track, since I love agressive wooden coasters.
I just want an awesome ride.
@@CanobieCoaster It can still be an awesome ride with wood track. I don't believe they're going to replace all of the wood track. There just going to replace the high stress areas.
At least you would still have wildcat! Heh.. heh….
I personally love how the ride is running faster with the titan track. The airtime is noticeably better, and I'm wondering if this will mean the ride will run faster this year. I honestly found the bottom of the first drop very rough last year, so the titan track was a welcome addition. My only concern is that it running faster will accelerate the rough sections of the ride, like the second valley and the turnaround, but if they keep adding Titan Track on those over the years I'll be a very happy local.
I'm intrigued to see how fast it'll be later as well.
Would not surprise me if they do all the way out to and including the turn around in the off season.
I lived in CT for years and visited Compounce and rode Boulder Dash many times. I'd be okay with switching to Titan track, as long as the ride looks the same. I'm not much of a fan of any kind of fast pass, and this goes for every park. I do however hope they remove the minimum amount of trees possible. Boulder Dash is arguably the most beautiful ride in the world, and it being built into the hillside surrounded by so many oak and maple trees is what makes it so.
I only rode Wildcat once, and remember it being rougher than Boulder Dash (which itself is kind of rough, as most woodies are), so anything they can do to improve it's track would be a good idea.
I just want it to ride well. Boulder Dash has such a great layout and setting as is.
I wish they would hire a specialist to check on the integrity of those trees before they cut them down. Those trees are part of what makes BD so special!
I imagine they checked with someone. Not all the trees are being removed.
The one time I visited Lake Compounce was in 2013 for a school trip, and I remember two trains running on Boulder Dash. It was somewhat rough, but an awesome ride. The GP usually considers RMC conversions to be wooden coasters, so I think they'd consider Boulder Dash to be a wooden coaster no matter how much titan track is added. Regarding speedy pass and any skip the line pass for that matter, whether I purchased it or not, I hate the idea of anyone being able to take someone's seat directly. For ADA and exit pass guests, the park should only allow them to ride every other cycle, alternate which rows they are assigned, and never put them in the front.
My partner is disabled and is an exit pass guest because she cant stand for long periods of time or walk very far. She loves coaster but has to sit in the front to avoid extreme nausea. So what about that, I know it's a very rare for that to be the case but how would they accommodate that request.
With the exit pass, they typically alternate every other train with standby if they want the front. I think people using the exit pass should have an opportunity to get the best seat. I know I'd want it if it were my only way to experience the ride
@@CanobieCoaster Agree. I'm 100% with you on allowing anyone disabled (and able to ride) to have the best seat for them. If I'm in line I'm more than okay waiting a few minutes for this. God forbid I'm ever in that same situation.
I do not consider exit pass and ADA rules to be anything near the same as speedy pass/fast pass, which I am generally against, at any park.
Got on Boulder Dash for the first time this year despite being an MA resident. I was perfectly okay with the sections that were Titan-tracked, and love the roar from the station. Could maybe use a bit more in that valley before the turnaround, but I am hoping not for a full Titan Track job. That finale is supposed to hurt a little.
This was also a pretty busy day, and I saw next to nobody using the Speedy Pass.
I saw a few people use it last Saturday, but not too many people are buying it.
@@CanobieCoaster I was there for the ACE event. Must have crossed paths.
Love your vids bro! Keep up the amazing work.
Thanks!
I didn’t even know there was Titan Track going on this ride. Cool.
It was only shared recently.
that's different from how Speedy Pass Works at Kennywood at Kennywood they just let you pick what ever row you want but there is no cones or anything it mainly works by letting you in around the same point as everyone else for most coasters and rides! I find it odd that Lake Compounce is making this decisions, for if you look at there sister park Kennywood you see even older wooden coasters mainteded the best of most if not all other parks in the world for wooden maintenance so why is there such a discrepancy between the 2 parks and wooden coaster maintenance
I like the set-up better at Kennywood. I think it would make sense for Lake Compounce to put the merge point before the station, but unfortunately a lot of their rides don't have a good set up for that.
I’ve only ever rode this once, recently this last weekend. It was the single most painful thing I’ve experienced all year.
Oh no! I usually ride up front. It's the smoothest seat and the best spot for speed/airtime.
I've never ridden this coaster but it's too special a wooden coaster to change, unless only a small rough part of it changes. Outside of that they'd better find other ways to improve parts of this coaster without replacing wooden track with metal or the'll be no wooden coasters left. That's just my opinion; I could be wrong. Thanks for posting!
I know what you mean, but I get why the park may go the Titan Track route.
I am always thinking of ways to enhance that fun so the experience becomes physically mentally financially spiritually beneficial and rewarding. Example the roller coasters should include some kind of test to see how well a person may keep their composure under high intensity excitement. Like being able to write your name and address before the ride ends. I think would be a fun way to test one's eye hand coordination similar to astronauts and jet fighters. Equally as true all roller coasters today should automatically have an electronic system that is constantly scanning the track for weakness fractures rust and corrosion. And with today's technologies should be no problem to upgrade any and all other roller coasters which will maximize on safety so people may have extreme fun on every ride
That would be interesting.
Honestly, I'd be happy to see more steel on Boulder Dash. To me it's an amazing ride, but only in the front row due to the bumpiness in the other rows. It would be nice to be able to settle for other rows in order to get on quicker, but on Boulder Dash it makes such a night and day difference I just suck it up and wait the extra couple cycles.
I like the front best for airtime, but it's easily the best seat when you add in the roughness.
hahaha its me im the one who said secreligious! and I still stand by it, for me the best way to explain it is just eating a holiday treat while not on a holiday, it feels wrong but over all im not really gonna complain, as long as its fun
Fair!
@@CanobieCoaster its a classic case of id rather something else be done, but you gotta do what you gotta do
Now I’m debating whether I should plan a trip to the park in the near future to experience this legendary ride before it gets completely changed.
The forces should be similar even if it gets more Titan Track.
I'm curious: why would full titan track classify it as a steel coaster, but rmc hybrids are very often counted among the woodies?
RMC hybrids are steel coasters.
With all the Titan track that will be added, do you think that the ride will eventually get new trains? Potentially Infinity Flyers?
It's possible, especially since their trains have taken a beating.
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Ha
I thought of Zadra as I made this.
RMC WILDCAT I beg, Lake Compounce. I BEG! 🙏🏻
I wish, but I bet it will be Titan Track.
If the ride continues to be rough for more years, do you think RMC using steel supports would be even a remote option?
I think Titan Track is a more than fine solution. The layout is fantastic.
Do you think Boulder Dash should or will get an RMC conversion or would that not be possible?
I don't think it will nor does it need one.
I’m personally not a fan of titan track on this ride. What I really liked about Boulder is the shaking and jittering which makes the ride feel more intense. It’s a good type of roughness that I’m gonna miss especially the pullout after the drop.
I get why it's being done even if it will dampen the out-of-control feeling.
And for the Speedy Pass I don't think it's going to work out because I remember a few years ago they did a similar system where you send a text to skip the line but it only lasted for one year because the service didn't get enough demand. I don't think that service is necessary at Lake Compounce because they don't really get crazy long lines (like Six Flags, Universal, or Disney levels) so I think it's a waste of money for both the park and consumers. What do you think?
When I was in New England, Lake Compounce's lines were all over an hour, and it wasn't a weekend. It was Wednesday. On the same day, Six Flags had everything as a walk-on. I've heard others say that this park quite often draws massive crowds with very long lines.
It comes down to what they price it at, but some rides can get 30-60 min waits.
It sounds like this ride accommodates about the same number of riders per hour with one train as ghost rider does with two
Sadly GhostRider accommodates more people. That ride at least runs 2 trains.
I'm betting they will do a lot more come the off season. Right now the manufacturer is working on track for the other coaster but later in the year will be able to produce a bunch more for Boulderdash.
It's possible.
Nice
Thanks!
Absolutely nothing like Boulder Dash at night.
One of the world's best night rides.
I hope WildCat gets a GCI wood retrack not steel. GCI can do both and the wood retracks are proven to be good
I would prefer wood, but I suspect it will be Titan Track given all the issues that ride has had.
@@CanobieCoaster tbh the guys who retracked it clearly arent very good. Look at Knotts and GhostRider. GCI came in and made it one of the parks best rides if not the best. Make WildCat nice and smooth with some short millennium fliers and it becomes a great little ride
Like the looks of this ride. Fun. Woodies rule.
It's fantastic.
they need a turntable on that launch coaster so they can load and run at same time like mac powersplash,
That is their most efficient coaster to be honest with the short cycle time and fast loading.
and a double turntable with a in station transfer between 2 could do 3 train ops and that would be a game changer
Nice review. What is Titan track?
Steel track for wooden coasters that can be used to retrack aging/rough rides.
skyline attractions/great coasters international (gci) all steel track that makes wooden coasters smoother and have less maintenance
Titan track is steel track manufactured by Great Coasters International (GCI) They use it to retrack parts of wooden roller coasters that are rough. They keep the same profiling as the old track did.
Steel track that can be used on ground-up rides or as replacements for pre-existing wood.
I’ve never agreed with a “speedy pass” you have to pay for…to me it reads, if you have more money, your time is more valuable…everyone should have to wait their turn….unless we’re talking Disney with the fast pass, that’s a different story….cedar point wants upwards of $600 for the day to skip the lines.
I get why parks charge it since there's a market for it.
It’s sad people can’t enjoy the feel of a classic woodie anymore, not even a smooth one. Many people nowadays just want all steel.
It's a bummer parks can't keep up with the maintenance needs.
So what would you rate boulderdash you didn't do that in the video
10 up front, but way lower in other rows. Overall 9, but he does in his review
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10 in the front.
I would be very disappointed if Wildcat were to become a steel coaster. IMO, the roughness is because of the new rolling stock (GCI's Millennium Flyers). They're hugging the track too tightly. The wheels, especially the upstops, need to have a little more slop in them. That would go a long way toward making the ride more comfortable. It's getting ridiculous: the Texas Giant, Six Flags New England's Cyclone, Hersheypark's Wildcat ... more and more great wood coasters are being turned into steel rides because the parks seem unable (or unwilling) to keep wood coasters in good repair. They should take a class from Knoebels.
I just want a good ride in the end. What they've been doing with Wildcat has not worked. I'd prefer if they did it with wood, but I get why the park is likely doing Titan Track.
Ever since Kennywood is owned by the same company... I'm worried if their wooden coasters would get the Titan Track treatment. I would rather get a Titan Track coaster from the ground up.
Kennywood's woodies have less aggressive layouts and have gotten better work over the years.
@@CanobieCoaster Yes, plus they take such good care of them every off-season.
I really hope speedy pass users don't get to choose their row like how the cone system is used. I would like it if they were sent into the back half to choose any row back there. The one time I waited for the front last year, I got coned off 3 times in a row which was super frustrating.
I have a hunch it will be any row based on what I saw at Phobia.
They should just titan track the whole coaster.😊
If they do, I doubt it would be done all at once.
Tree removal nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! Hopefully they just replace dead trees with health ones.
Honestly, Wildcat track is giving "warped in the dishwasher" and something drastic is definitely needed.
I hope more trees aren't removed.
This pisses me off. Now good wood coasters are going to become medicore steel coasters. Parks will just understand its cheaper to make wood coasters all steel. Rmc has killed the wooden coaster. We will only see a few more new wood coasters and i guarantee all of them will have steel in certain parts. I dont think we will ever get another 100% wood coaster. Its sad.
I wouldn't call this ride mediocre if it goes all-steel. It would still beat almost every steel coaster on the planet.
This is just so depressing as a fan of wooden coasters. I rode Boulder Dash for the first time last summer and it instantly became one of my very favorites. But I realize I’m in the minority here and, like you said in the video, rider comfort is being prioritized over historic value. For Wildcat, I could even get on board, as it is truly one of the worst coaster experiences on earth. But this was totally unnecessary for Boulder Dash and it’s going to be tough for me to justify buying a ticket knowing they neutered their best ride.
they neutered it by saving themselves money by adding a layer of metal to like an 8th of the ride?
Why on earth do I care if Lake Compounce saves itself money?
@@evanweston1837 so the park can make a profit and continue operating?
Most guests won't consider steel neutering it. In fact, they'll enjoy the smoother ride. So I get why they're doing it.
@@CanobieCoaster for sure, I said I’m in the minority here. Just very sad for us fans of great wooden coasters
It's been wood since it was built and now wood is too rough? Sorry. I'm tired of them ruining woodies by making them steel
I just want the ride to run smoothly and this is helping.
@@CanobieCoaster They could just tear it down and put up a steel coaster. I'm sure it would run pretty smooth.
At what point does it cease to be the same ride?
just retrack the whole fuckin ride
They probably will do more.
Why do you sound so much different
Sounds like he’s congested
I filmed this in the morning before going to work. Usually I film my videos in the evening. That's probably why my voice sounded gravelly.
Misinformation as usual!
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Massive Jonathan L as usual!
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