I've been using my printer with whole grain brewing for approx two years. It works. I have used a hopper and added a pressure post and on another hopper, a pressure gauge. I've bought hop oils and added them to used hoppers and sealed with Nespresso foils for fooling refills. What I will say is it needs to condition longer than extract kits.
Love your videos, guys. I always look forward to my Sunday morning viewing watching you guys with my morning coffee. This is another great way to get potential new brewers into the hobby and get a few of those old pinters back out of people’s cupboards and stop gathering dust or going in the bin. Nice one!
Thanks! So pleased you’re enjoying the channel! Exactly why we were inspired to brew with this! How many might be gathering dust out there or folks that want to take the next step but think they might need loads of additional equipment?? We really have been amazed at how well it worked!
I've been using these for AG batches for a while now, including Rocky Road. They're great for brewing lower-hopped beers, but I usually transfer to a keg for dry-hopping. You can convert an old hopper bottle into a CO₂ injector with a drill, tap washer, and a gas post. It would be great if they made a larger pro version with a CO₂ port. Also, cold crashing for a few days before removing the dock helps a lot.
Agree with the comments that this is a fantastic idea and allows a cheap way into spunding and pressure fermenting. The other thing (I don't think has been mentioned) is that with a standard 21L ish batch if you put 5L into the pinter that allows the rest to go in a corny to ferment.
I have a Pinter and that is the one thing that put me off...Premade wort and would love to try grain brewing combined with the Pinter. What model of kettle was used on the video pls? Please provide more videos using both systems. Really enjoyed this and would love a Stout brew demo!
Here you go www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/12l-3-us-gal-stainless-steel-brew-kettle/ along with a small grain basket www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/tmm-hop-spider-basket/ But you can easily use 2 of these grain bags www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/hop-sock/ If you have a big enough kettle at home, 12 litres is ideal, that and a grain bag is all you need.
Great video chaps. Have done a few AG brews in my out of warranty Pinter 3s. Works really well & allows infinite variety of beer styles. I use an iSpindel to track fermentation process. If you need to add more CO2 you can always take a Pinter Hop oil bottle & epoxy a ball lock pressure post to it. Then you can add pressure via the hopper.
I was thinking about getting the new Pinter until I saw that all the kits seem to contain invert sugar syrup/glucose fructose syrup. You method makes me tempted, again.
I’ve just ordered a Pinter, I have a G30, so I’m going to put 5Litres of wort into the Pinter with some dry hops and put the rest into my current fermenter. My current setup doesn’t do closed transfers so I’m really interested to see how the Pinter fairs..
Absolute knockout 😊 first pour today of a West Coast IPA, brewed a 24 litre batch on the G30, I filled up the Pinter, added 40g hops in disposable teabags, some SO5 yeast, and let it ferment for a week. 2 days in the fridge and it’s superb. Bitter, piney, hoppy and light in colour. Best West Coast I have made. So what’s different? Pressure ferment, natural carbonation and never came into contact with oxygen. I will be ordering a pressure fermenter soon 😊
Thanks for this vid! You guys gave me the confidence to buy a Pinter for getting into small batch home brewing! Can't wait to try making my own Hazy Rocky Road
@@themaltmiller8438 Just waiting on a few things to start my batch! I did have one question, did you guys fill the pinter all the way up to the fill port. Or did you stop at the black fill line. It looks very full in the video, but it could just be the camera angle.
@@themaltmiller8438 the beer turned out fantastic! May have added too much trub to the pinter, but very pleased for my first brew! Thank you again for your guidance getting into the hobby
Did you place the Pinter in a heated area when fermenting the Mango Madness Kveik yeast strain? Would it be OK to use the same yeast at 70 degrees F? If so, how many days for fermenting and how many days conditioning?
It would be very interesting doing a 23l grain brew and splitting it into 4 with each one using a different hop/yeast. Then a taste test with the reason for your choice.
I got started with home brewing this year, ive only done turbo ciders and extract kits, and in truth i had no interest in all grain because im perfectly happy the extract kits ive brewed, they've been as good as anying ive gotten from a pub, though not as good as the craft ale bars, but they are levels above anyway. But this looks perfect for me given the size of them, im very short of space, Ive seen the pinter advertised and thought it looked gimmicky and somewhat expensive to buy the kits. Ordering one asap
I have been all grain brewing 23 l batches for many years now, so when i saw this video i didnt think it would interest me. Boy was i wrong! A nice little 5l batch that can be an extract kit or all grain, fermented in an oxygen free vessel and served from the fridge! I now have to buy a Pinter. Damn you!
If you have the capacity, then I'd recommend brewing a 28 litre batch, and then maybe fermenting 5 litres in the pinter? I have been re using supermarket kegs in the same way, brew a 28l batch, ferment it all in one fermenter, and then put 19l in a keg and 5l in a mini keg with priming sugar
@@themaltmiller8438 just had a glass. It's got good carbonation. After undocking the 2nd time it was just as lively as the first time. Will be ordering more
Always thought the pinter looked good for fresh beer at home at a good price, not necessarily for those into home brewing though as there isn't much involved in the process or recipe design. This brings a whole new view to the pinter
If this works it may transform my old Pinter1 from an expensive and rather disappointing toy to something useful ... I think you are right to ensure chlorine / choramine removal from the water. You didn't mention chilling the Pinter down at the end of fermentation - it does encourage trub precipitation into the dock. Also, you do need to keep the Pinter in the fridge at serving temperature and avoiding movement as far as possible. Look forward to some more Pinter based experiments, especially the faux lagers.
Will this work with the Pinter1 though? I'd be really interested if anyone is successful brewing anything with the first generation of the Pinter. Personally, I was extremely disappointed with all of the brews I made with the Pinter1. I had bought two and a few months later they brought out a "better" version. Needless to say as I wasn't happy I decided to cancel my subscription. So if anyone is experimenting with the Pinter1, please publish your results as I'm about to bin my Pinter1(s). Cheers.
The issue I had with the early Punters were leaks under pressure so I had the pressure setting turned low and then bottled after fermentation complete rather than serve from the pinter.
When doing an all grain brew in the Pinter there's going to be more cold break material that needs to be eliminated. The Pinter kits don't have to accomodatte that. Does the extra trub all get eliminated when you remove the base?
After fermentation and removal of the dock we found that there was very little left in the pinter in terms of yeast, hops and trub once we opened it up at the end
Thanks for the video. Really good one. Will you have a separate section on the page for pinter recipes? Also with the filter at 6:12 were you able to close the pot lid fully? Looking into more advanced Pinter brdwing for sure. It is a very nice and simple to use system which has potential I think. Thanks
Can you add options to the kits listed under the 5l section so the yeast could be changed ???? Love the new range of whc dried and doing 5l test batches sounds well up my street.
My Sunday dose of MMM (Malt Miller Madness!). Great video and as always has set me thinking. Brew a 23 litre batch of my IPL, ferment 18 litres using Lutra (my go to yeast) & 5 litres in the Pinter using High Voltage. More is the shame that there is no gas in post on the pinter...maybe something TMM could look at doing as an experiment?
I am also trying to understand the question regarding the HOPS. The video is showing adding hops during the cooking process and adding the hops prior to the sealing the PINTER. Can we get better information regarding this "cradle to grave" process?
Hi! The brewing process is mostly as shown in this video: th-cam.com/video/gsM0zur2T_0/w-d-xo.html The only difference is the dry hopping process for the Pinter. Cheers!
I think I already know the answer to this, does the hop basket fit in the smaller 12L pot with a heating element? I always small batch brew all grain on the stove top but I am looking for the consistency an all in one electric system would bring.
Is it necessary to switch the yeast in your kits when using the Pinter? Can you stick with the LALBREW VERDANT IPA Dried Yeast 11g when you make this and how would the steps be different? Would you use the whole packet or still only use half? Thanks for the help!
You would only need half, because the standard 11g packs of dried yeast are intended for around 20litres. The other thing to be aware of is the fermentation temperature. In the video they used a yeast that is tolerant of higher temperatures. For an ale with a normal yeast you would not usually go above about 20 or 21 degrees C. The packet will normally tell you the range.
@@davidnash4393thanks for the reply. So am I correct that they most likely just switched out the yeast just due to their preference with this batch? (Likely due to it being able to handle a wider array of temps and having a faster fermentation time). It doesn't seem like there's any specific reason why another type of yeast wouldn't work as long as you're on top of the temps?
@@ChrisB2476 yes that's right. The verdant should work fine. Full disclosure: I am an all-grain home brewer but have not used either of those yeasts or the Pinter. Bear in mind they are selling that yeast 😉
Hey! Yes, no reason you can't use Verdant, we love that strain - we used this one due to temperature control as it was mid summer and super warm, we wanted to try and replicate similar conditions to others that might be brewing at home during a warmer period.
Add them when you add the yeast buddy. You can’t open the Pinter once you’ve added the yeast… it’ll be messy and you’ll loose all the carbonation from the beer
I’m brewing this all grain kit this weekend and the room in my house is 18degrees most of day 21 when heating is on in am and eve, therefore how many days fermentation do you think it needs 7-9?
I'd aim to ferment for a little longer with those temp ranges. Standard ale yeasts will be more than happy but the thermo-tolerant options won't speed through as quickly at cooler temps. Perhaps if you make sure the wort is 30c(ish) when you add the yeast this will help, as the Pinter does have a layer of insulation and the fermentation will naturally generate heat too - even so, I'd suggest 7-9 days if it's cooler than the ideal temp.
No plans to stock PINTERS but, we already stock a range of 5l all grain kits, have done for ages. www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product-category/ingredients/recipes/all-grain-recipes/kitchen-brewer-5-litre-recipe-kits/ These can be made in a saucepan if you have one big enough. The items we used were www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/12l-3-us-gal-stainless-steel-brew-kettle/ along with a small grain basket www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/tmm-hop-spider-basket/ But you can easily use 2 of these grain bags www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/hop-sock/
I'm hoping someone sees my comment 😊 newby here 👋🏻. I'm having a hard time understanding the hop amounts. What I understood was 1.5g added at the start of the 30 minute boil. Some was added at the end of the boil im guessing 10g per following steps on the recipe. Then 20g when putting in the yeast and closing the Pinter? so around 10g less? Someone please clarify. Thank you for your video can't wait to try your kit with the Pinter.
Hi! The Rocky Road recipe kit comes with 22g of Citra hops and 20g of Idaho 7. Add 2g Citra at the start of the 30 min boil (the video shows only 1.5g on the scale but that's just where the footage is cut!). At the end of the boil, when the wort has cooled to about 80C, add 10g Citra + 10g Idaho 7 and let them sit for 10 minutes, before you then chill the wort and transfer it to the fermenter. Then, for the Pinter hack we've got here, you put in the remaining 10g Citra and 10g Idaho 7 along with the yeast. If you were doing this recipe in a plastic bucket style fermenter, you would add those last hops later on, but because the Pinter can't be opened once fermentation begins, we've put them in along with the yeast. Hope that makes sense!
The method we used for this batch worked really well but if you wanted a bigger hop character then try adding 5g of Spectrum at the start of fermentation. It bio-transforms really well and gives loads of juicy character when added at the start of fermentation
Interesting! I usually brew 23L batches but that is hard work and time consuming. It would be good to do some small batches with one of these. What was the vessel you used for the mash? Looked like a 12L vessel with grain basket? Can't see it on your web site.
I'll assume you lost some of your 5L batch when you undocked the Pinter? Did you increase the original wort volume to account for it or just accept it as a brewhouse inefficiency?
No but that's a good point, we did notice we could have fitted more into the Pinter and next time we will try to increase the brew length slightly to maximise the yield
Greeting from Mumbai. Great video. Exactly what I've been wondering since i saw the latest version of the pinter -- can i sub their recipes for my own AG! Btw, ive been a happy customer of your stovetop 5L kits, including the Rocky Road and the Best Bitter.... I have the Twany Brown Ale coming up next. fantastic, both. 5L is my sweet spot and the Pinter, it seems, is a good solution to oxidation problem common at homebrew level with style like Rocky Road. Well done and thanks for this video.
We will let you know! I think it will dwindle but should be enough to serve most of the keg. You can then open the valve and allow some air in to serve the last few pints
Also, noticed you used a smaller basket in the 12 ltr kettle. Is it listed on your website? I'm aware of the bigger clawhammer style basket you have on there.
I guess I am the only person who got a bad pinter. Mine is leaking from the bottom. Brand new doesn't mean it's not defective. I was hoping to have fresh brew for Christmas 😢
I made TMM Golden Ale (TTS#1) as a 5 Gallon kit in my G30 and split it between 3 Pinters and 18 bottles. The results were very good. The bottles were primed and so treated slightly differently to the Pinters. The reason for doing this was to experiment with the Pinters. After 3 weeks of maturation I would say that the Pinters produced an equally good, if not better, beer than the bottles. I'll definitely be doing more all grain brewing in Pinters. Thanks for sharing this experiment guys.
This doesn't surprise me that the Pinter beers where better - the fact that after you have added the wort to the pinter it then doesn't come into contact with Oxygen at all until you serve the finished beer means it will be super fresh and have had almost zero chance of oxidising!
For some, yes. Others that don’t have the space for full 20l+ batches or that want to make use of a Pinter they already have, it’s a great way to dabble with all-grain
Definitely want to see the lager beer being made.
I've been using my printer with whole grain brewing for approx two years. It works. I have used a hopper and added a pressure post and on another hopper, a pressure gauge. I've bought hop oils and added them to used hoppers and sealed with Nespresso foils for fooling refills. What I will say is it needs to condition longer than extract kits.
I do as well. This little system kicks butt. I switch between pinter packs and BIAB. Easy.
Can you please share your after market hacks? Cheers🍻
Love your videos, guys. I always look forward to my Sunday morning viewing watching you guys with my morning coffee. This is another great way to get potential new brewers into the hobby and get a few of those old pinters back out of people’s cupboards and stop gathering dust or going in the bin. Nice one!
Thanks! So pleased you’re enjoying the channel! Exactly why we were inspired to brew with this! How many might be gathering dust out there or folks that want to take the next step but think they might need loads of additional equipment?? We really have been amazed at how well it worked!
Got a friend with two being unused currently... He'll be getting a call shortly
I've been using these for AG batches for a while now, including Rocky Road. They're great for brewing lower-hopped beers, but I usually transfer to a keg for dry-hopping.
You can convert an old hopper bottle into a CO₂ injector with a drill, tap washer, and a gas post. It would be great if they made a larger pro version with a CO₂ port.
Also, cold crashing for a few days before removing the dock helps a lot.
Great tips! Thanks 🙏🏻
Agree with the comments that this is a fantastic idea and allows a cheap way into spunding and pressure fermenting. The other thing (I don't think has been mentioned) is that with a standard 21L ish batch if you put 5L into the pinter that allows the rest to go in a corny to ferment.
I have a Pinter and that is the one thing that put me off...Premade wort and would love to try grain brewing combined with the Pinter. What model of kettle was used on the video pls?
Please provide more videos using both systems. Really enjoyed this and would love a Stout brew demo!
Here you go www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/12l-3-us-gal-stainless-steel-brew-kettle/ along with a small grain basket www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/tmm-hop-spider-basket/ But you can easily use 2 of these grain bags www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/hop-sock/
If you have a big enough kettle at home, 12 litres is ideal, that and a grain bag is all you need.
Great video chaps. Have done a few AG brews in my out of warranty Pinter 3s. Works really well & allows infinite variety of beer styles.
I use an iSpindel to track fermentation process.
If you need to add more CO2 you can always take a Pinter Hop oil bottle & epoxy a ball lock pressure post to it. Then you can add pressure via the hopper.
Second person to suggest that this morning! We might have to get one of their kits to try this out!
Would be great if you could post some photos of the set up
Found this on TH-cam th-cam.com/video/JvX203QONOk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HCGITEiZ3C-AXSJz
@@martinhudson599 I’ll post a picture on the Pinter Community forum, as don’t think you can as pictures to TH-cam chat.
I was thinking about getting the new Pinter until I saw that all the kits seem to contain invert sugar syrup/glucose fructose syrup. You method makes me tempted, again.
I’ve just ordered a Pinter, I have a G30, so I’m going to put 5Litres of wort into the Pinter with some dry hops and put the rest into my current fermenter. My current setup doesn’t do closed transfers so I’m really interested to see how the Pinter fairs..
Let us know!
Absolute knockout 😊 first pour today of a West Coast IPA, brewed a 24 litre batch on the G30, I filled up the Pinter, added 40g hops in disposable teabags, some SO5 yeast, and let it ferment for a week. 2 days in the fridge and it’s superb. Bitter, piney, hoppy and light in colour. Best West Coast I have made. So what’s different? Pressure ferment, natural carbonation and never came into contact with oxygen. I will be ordering a pressure fermenter soon 😊
Thanks for this vid! You guys gave me the confidence to buy a Pinter for getting into small batch home brewing! Can't wait to try making my own Hazy Rocky Road
Best of luck! - Let us know how you get on with it!!
@@themaltmiller8438 Just waiting on a few things to start my batch! I did have one question, did you guys fill the pinter all the way up to the fill port. Or did you stop at the black fill line. It looks very full in the video, but it could just be the camera angle.
@@jacobanthony5521 Hey! We filled it to the black line buddy! Good luck with having a go at this yourself!
@@themaltmiller8438 the beer turned out fantastic! May have added too much trub to the pinter, but very pleased for my first brew! Thank you again for your guidance getting into the hobby
@@jacobanthony5521 An absolute pleasure!
Did you place the Pinter in a heated area when fermenting the Mango Madness Kveik yeast strain? Would it be OK to use the same yeast at 70 degrees F? If so, how many days for fermenting and how many days conditioning?
It would be very interesting doing a 23l grain brew and splitting it into 4 with each one using a different hop/yeast. Then a taste test with the reason for your choice.
I got started with home brewing this year, ive only done turbo ciders and extract kits, and in truth i had no interest in all grain because im perfectly happy the extract kits ive brewed, they've been as good as anying ive gotten from a pub, though not as good as the craft ale bars, but they are levels above anyway.
But this looks perfect for me given the size of them, im very short of space, Ive seen the pinter advertised and thought it looked gimmicky and somewhat expensive to buy the kits.
Ordering one asap
I was actually very curious about this idea when I first saw it. It's awesome to know that it can be used for grain brewing! I might pick one up.
Glad it was helpful!
I've got 5 pinters sitting dormant since I switched to 23l brewing, these kitchen brews look like I need to dust them off 👌🍻👍
Or split your 23l batches across all
5? Could make for some very interesting test brews. Same wort but trial different yeast or hops!
Wouldn't waste your time. Your opinion was right the first time round 😂
This looks like a great option to test out recipes, instead of making a giant batch
I have been all grain brewing 23 l batches for many years now, so when i saw this video i didnt think it would interest me. Boy was i wrong! A nice little 5l batch that can be an extract kit or all grain, fermented in an oxygen free vessel and served from the fridge! I now have to buy a Pinter. Damn you!
Sorry! 🤣
If you have the capacity, then I'd recommend brewing a 28 litre batch, and then maybe fermenting 5 litres in the pinter?
I have been re using supermarket kegs in the same way, brew a 28l batch, ferment it all in one fermenter, and then put 19l in a keg and 5l in a mini keg with priming sugar
Oooo even better idea!!!
Nearly finished using a 10 pint mangrove jacks hazy ipa in one. It brewed so quickly compared to the pinter kits. I can't wait to try the result
Hi, when did add the hops with this brew ?
@@jdg28gau when SG was around 1.020. I undocked it and put the hops in the dock
Interested to see if the carbonation was still good after you removed the dock?
@@themaltmiller8438 just had a glass. It's got good carbonation. After undocking the 2nd time it was just as lively as the first time. Will be ordering more
Very very interesting.
Amazing Idea
Always thought the pinter looked good for fresh beer at home at a good price, not necessarily for those into home brewing though as there isn't much involved in the process or recipe design. This brings a whole new view to the pinter
Thanks for this, very helpful! What was the wort temperature at transfer?
Around 30c as this yeast strain loves the warmth!
If this works it may transform my old Pinter1 from an expensive and rather disappointing toy to something useful ... I think you are right to ensure chlorine / choramine removal from the water. You didn't mention chilling the Pinter down at the end of fermentation - it does encourage trub precipitation into the dock. Also, you do need to keep the Pinter in the fridge at serving temperature and avoiding movement as far as possible. Look forward to some more Pinter based experiments, especially the faux lagers.
We’ve used the current generation of Pinter here but as long as yours doesn’t leak or loose pressure then it would most certainly work!
Will this work with the Pinter1 though? I'd be really interested if anyone is successful brewing anything with the first generation of the Pinter. Personally, I was extremely disappointed with all of the brews I made with the Pinter1. I had bought two and a few months later they brought out a "better" version. Needless to say as I wasn't happy I decided to cancel my subscription. So if anyone is experimenting with the Pinter1, please publish your results as I'm about to bin my Pinter1(s). Cheers.
@@donmac5926 As far as I can see, the process would not be different with the early Pinters ...
The issue I had with the early Punters were leaks under pressure so I had the pressure setting turned low and then bottled after fermentation complete rather than serve from the pinter.
When doing an all grain brew in the Pinter there's going to be more cold break material that needs to be eliminated. The Pinter kits don't have to accomodatte that. Does the extra trub all get eliminated when you remove the base?
After fermentation and removal of the dock we found that there was very little left in the pinter in terms of yeast, hops and trub once we opened it up at the end
Thanks for the video. Really good one. Will you have a separate section on the page for pinter recipes? Also with the filter at 6:12 were you able to close the pot lid fully? Looking into more advanced Pinter brdwing for sure. It is a very nice and simple to use system which has potential I think. Thanks
All our 5L Kitchen Brewer kits could be used in this way. As for the lid, it will sit on top of the filter basket but not shut fully with this kettle
Can you add options to the kits listed under the 5l section so the yeast could be changed ???? Love the new range of whc dried and doing 5l test batches sounds well up my street.
We will add this to the list for review and see if it could work. Glad this has inspired you!
My Sunday dose of MMM (Malt Miller Madness!). Great video and as always has set me thinking. Brew a 23 litre batch of my IPL, ferment 18 litres using Lutra (my go to yeast) & 5 litres in the Pinter using High Voltage. More is the shame that there is no gas in post on the pinter...maybe something TMM could look at doing as an experiment?
Martin see my post regards CO2.
Did you add the hops at boil and hop Stand stage and add the remaining before fermentation instead of after 10 days?
Yep! Everything the same as the recipe other than adding the dry hop charge at yeast pitching time
I am also trying to understand the question regarding the HOPS. The video is showing adding hops during the cooking process and adding the hops prior to the sealing the PINTER.
Can we get better information regarding this "cradle to grave" process?
Hi! The brewing process is mostly as shown in this video: th-cam.com/video/gsM0zur2T_0/w-d-xo.html
The only difference is the dry hopping process for the Pinter. Cheers!
Brilliant video, cheers :)
I think I already know the answer to this, does the hop basket fit in the smaller 12L pot with a heating element? I always small batch brew all grain on the stove top but I am looking for the consistency an all in one electric system would bring.
Not entirely, enough to mash most styles though
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Is it necessary to switch the yeast in your kits when using the Pinter? Can you stick with the LALBREW VERDANT IPA Dried Yeast 11g when you make this and how would the steps be different? Would you use the whole packet or still only use half? Thanks for the help!
You would only need half, because the standard 11g packs of dried yeast are intended for around 20litres.
The other thing to be aware of is the fermentation temperature. In the video they used a yeast that is tolerant of higher temperatures. For an ale with a normal yeast you would not usually go above about 20 or 21 degrees C. The packet will normally tell you the range.
@@davidnash4393thanks for the reply. So am I correct that they most likely just switched out the yeast just due to their preference with this batch? (Likely due to it being able to handle a wider array of temps and having a faster fermentation time). It doesn't seem like there's any specific reason why another type of yeast wouldn't work as long as you're on top of the temps?
@@ChrisB2476 yes that's right. The verdant should work fine.
Full disclosure: I am an all-grain home brewer but have not used either of those yeasts or the Pinter. Bear in mind they are selling that yeast 😉
Hey! Yes, no reason you can't use Verdant, we love that strain - we used this one due to temperature control as it was mid summer and super warm, we wanted to try and replicate similar conditions to others that might be brewing at home during a warmer period.
If using the mangrove jacks hazy ipa 5ltr kit when would you add the hops ?
Add them when you add the yeast buddy. You can’t open the Pinter once you’ve added the yeast… it’ll be messy and you’ll loose all the carbonation from the beer
More pinter content please
It's on the cards!
I’m brewing this all grain kit this weekend and the room in my house is 18degrees most of day 21 when heating is on in am and eve, therefore how many days fermentation do you think it needs 7-9?
I'd aim to ferment for a little longer with those temp ranges. Standard ale yeasts will be more than happy but the thermo-tolerant options won't speed through as quickly at cooler temps. Perhaps if you make sure the wort is 30c(ish) when you add the yeast this will help, as the Pinter does have a layer of insulation and the fermentation will naturally generate heat too - even so, I'd suggest 7-9 days if it's cooler than the ideal temp.
@ how would I achieve such high temperatures in my house with the Pinter? With a heatband?
This is super interesting- and like you say, I was thinking this could be fun for test batches. Thanks for sharing.
Do you reckon this would work with big stouts, imperials, etc?
I can't think of a reason it wouldn't. Being able to remove the trub means it can ages, for ages!
No doubt you'll be stocking the Pinter and TMM Real Pinter kits ready for Christmas??
No plans to stock PINTERS but, we already stock a range of 5l all grain kits, have done for ages. www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product-category/ingredients/recipes/all-grain-recipes/kitchen-brewer-5-litre-recipe-kits/ These can be made in a saucepan if you have one big enough. The items we used were www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/12l-3-us-gal-stainless-steel-brew-kettle/ along with a small grain basket www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/tmm-hop-spider-basket/ But you can easily use 2 of these grain bags www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/hop-sock/
@@themaltmiller8438 Any chance of making these into 6l kits as the Pinter holds around 6.5l?
I'm hoping someone sees my comment 😊 newby here 👋🏻. I'm having a hard time understanding the hop amounts. What I understood was 1.5g added at the start of the 30 minute boil. Some was added at the end of the boil im guessing 10g per following steps on the recipe. Then 20g when putting in the yeast and closing the Pinter? so around 10g less? Someone please clarify. Thank you for your video can't wait to try your kit with the Pinter.
Hi! The Rocky Road recipe kit comes with 22g of Citra hops and 20g of Idaho 7. Add 2g Citra at the start of the 30 min boil (the video shows only 1.5g on the scale but that's just where the footage is cut!). At the end of the boil, when the wort has cooled to about 80C, add 10g Citra + 10g Idaho 7 and let them sit for 10 minutes, before you then chill the wort and transfer it to the fermenter. Then, for the Pinter hack we've got here, you put in the remaining 10g Citra and 10g Idaho 7 along with the yeast.
If you were doing this recipe in a plastic bucket style fermenter, you would add those last hops later on, but because the Pinter can't be opened once fermentation begins, we've put them in along with the yeast. Hope that makes sense!
I understand now. thank you so much for replying to my comment! Now I can get brewing :) @themaltmiller8438
Been using my Pinter 3 like this for a while. Only issue is no way to dry hop.
The method we used for this batch worked really well but if you wanted a bigger hop character then try adding 5g of Spectrum at the start of fermentation. It bio-transforms really well and gives loads of juicy character when added at the start of fermentation
Interesting! I usually brew 23L batches but that is hard work and time consuming. It would be good to do some small batches with one of these. What was the vessel you used for the mash? Looked like a 12L vessel with grain basket? Can't see it on your web site.
Here you go! www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/12l-3-us-gal-stainless-steel-brew-kettle/
@@themaltmiller8438 Thanks! What was the grain basket you used inside it? Do you sell that?
@@philzvids3577 www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/tmm-hop-spider-basket/
Great video. Never heard of the Pinter before. Wish they had been available forty years ago when I was regularly home brewing!
Glad you enjoyed the video! 😉
I'll assume you lost some of your 5L batch when you undocked the Pinter? Did you increase the original wort volume to account for it or just accept it as a brewhouse inefficiency?
You would still lose some volume in a brewing bucket from trub/yeast. The dock doesn't actually hold that much liquid.
No but that's a good point, we did notice we could have fitted more into the Pinter and next time we will try to increase the brew length slightly to maximise the yield
Greeting from Mumbai. Great video. Exactly what I've been wondering since i saw the latest version of the pinter -- can i sub their recipes for my own AG! Btw, ive been a happy customer of your stovetop 5L kits, including the Rocky Road and the Best Bitter.... I have the Twany Brown Ale coming up next. fantastic, both.
5L is my sweet spot and the Pinter, it seems, is a good solution to oxidation problem common at homebrew level with style like Rocky Road.
Well done and thanks for this video.
One quick question: how well does the serving pressure hold up as you approach the end of the batch?
We will let you know! I think it will dwindle but should be enough to serve most of the keg. You can then open the valve and allow some air in to serve the last few pints
Also, noticed you used a smaller basket in the 12 ltr kettle. Is it listed on your website? I'm aware of the bigger clawhammer style basket you have on there.
@@ravilshirodkar1901 here you go www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/tmm-hop-spider-basket/
Very nice. Thank you.
Was there a conditioning phase? In a fridge
We conditioned for 3 days cold in the fridge room here at TMMHQ
How is the carbonation?
It was ace!
Anyone make a non-kit Cider in this?
I guess I am the only person who got a bad pinter. Mine is leaking from the bottom. Brand new doesn't mean it's not defective. I was hoping to have fresh brew for Christmas 😢
Sorry to hear this! Have you spoken to Pinter?
@themaltmiller8438 I have an email address. No customer service phone number listed. I guess they just have a warehouse here.
How much wort did you put in the pinter exactly???
5 litres, there is a max fill mark.
I made TMM Golden Ale (TTS#1) as a 5 Gallon kit in my G30 and split it between 3 Pinters and 18 bottles.
The results were very good.
The bottles were primed and so treated slightly differently to the Pinters.
The reason for doing this was to experiment with the Pinters.
After 3 weeks of maturation I would say that the Pinters produced an equally good, if not better, beer than the bottles.
I'll definitely be doing more all grain brewing in Pinters.
Thanks for sharing this experiment guys.
This doesn't surprise me that the Pinter beers where better - the fact that after you have added the wort to the pinter it then doesn't come into contact with Oxygen at all until you serve the finished beer means it will be super fresh and have had almost zero chance of oxidising!
Dented mini?? You're going to have to tell that story, someone's not a happy bunny...
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Lots of work for only one night of beer
For some, yes. Others that don’t have the space for full 20l+ batches or that want to make use of a Pinter they already have, it’s a great way to dabble with all-grain