All 3 of my aces have been Mako3s. Needless to say, I'm now bagging Mako3s forever. It's straight, and very "neutral" in that, depending on your angle, arm speed, and snap, it holds whatever line you throw it on.
For me, Axiom Hex is the top tier straight flying midrange. I’ve had Mako3, Buzzz, and Texas Ranger all in my bag at various points. All three of them had various things I didn’t like that the Hex corrected (for me at least).
I never fell in love with the. Buzzz the way I wanted to. I finally found the mind bender and love it. If you like the feel of the buzzz though try a buzzz ss
Don't write it off yet, I know I bought a Buzzz soon after starting and it just didn't work how I wanted. It's not a disc to "learn" with imo. Went back 1.5-2 years later and realized it was just me, not the disc. Now I own at least 10 of them 😁
@@FormerAmericanIdol I do write it off for me. I wanted to like it BUT I just couldn't release it comfortably, it being so darn shallow. I did like the flight tho WHEN I got a good release off
I love the buzzz. It’s great for those straight tunnels and very versatile. I also like to use it forehand. I have one in big z plastic and it’s almost a flat top.
I found a Mako3 today!What a great disc!!! It flies so straight. Hopefully I can find the owner but I'll keep using it for now. Definitely picking one up for myself.
Love this! The mako3 is hard to learn and takes a little time to get used to. I love the mako3 cuz it goes straight and almost no fade. My dad got a mako3 aswell but he cant use it cuz he hasnt trained enough with it. Hope to see you progress with it
That was my take on it too, the mako3 is my preference haven't found anything as straight or shapeable. Mine is in star plastic and frankly I think champ might have been the right call, star is beating in a little and now it's maybe a -.3 turn not quite -.5 but it will never fight out of a turn now. And I seem to forget that too often. But it is 'point and shoot' so to speak
I feel like The buzz SS would be a more fair comparison to a mako 3 not just because of its flight numbers but because of its edge design the rims are very similar between a bus SS and a mako 3 where is a standard buzz is a little bit more stable then people give it credit for also the thing that I like about the buzz is the buzz comes in three flavors you have the buzz OS you have the buzz and of course you have the buzz SS based off that variety there's not such a thing as a mako 3 over stable or I may go three under stable so it makes a lot easier to simplify your bag in terms of what mid-range is you want but of course everybody's different but that's my two cents worth taking or leave it LOL
I have an esp buzzz and a star mako3 in my bag. I throw the buzzz more as it feels more reliable in the wind with its over stability and almost never flips. The mako3 is better for gliding super straight down tunnels etc and doesn't really fade left or right just stays on its line. Also great for anhyzers. I find them to be completely different discs really, both with their uses, and I have a comet which is like a mix of the two and is my favourite for approaches and long throw in putts.
Recently found your channel. You’re posting content about literally everything my husband and I are into at the moment…disc golf, van life, and reselling! So awesome. I really enjoy the content and hope to see you go all the way and even win worlds one day! 👏🏼
I'm a beginner and started with the champion Mako3 and Roc3 (F2 discs) for a while before getting an ESP Buzz in my first tournament. For me, the virgin Buzz flies very similar to the Roc3 (meaning a similar fade on my basic backhand). The Mako3 finishes straighter for me currently.
Noyce! Old time stomping grounds for me there. Played west, shorewood, and channahon all the way back in early 80s! Spent days at shorewood as a kid. SOOOO much more busy now a days. Wow.
I have 5 buzzz discs right now. The 2023 Halloween Z Glo was the first and I fell in love with it. Bought a Titanium, Z, Big Z and an Elite Z 20th Anniversary (each in various weights). They are all pretty similar with slight differences, but nothing beats that Z Glo which is always in my bag along with another Buzzz (depending on the course and/or weather conditions), a Champion Mako 3, a DX ROC (old DX plastic) and an Alien (which I’ve come to love when using it more as a long approach/putter disc rather than a mid range). I want to give the Hex a shot. I love the feel of my 2 Insanity discs (1 proton and 1 Neutron) and want to try another Axiom disc. That’ll be next spring. I bought too many discs this year (still have 4 more in transit) and promised myself I’d not get anymore except for this year’s Halloween Buzzz……
Great comparison. I bag both Champ Mako3 and Buzzed (z plastic) and they fly the exactly the same for me. For me, they are different slots, true straight and buzz with a finish. The Mako3 also feels weird in the hand but i got used to it and trust it now.
For the longest time I was always wondering what the buzz was about in regards to the buzzz. Been throwing the buzzz ss for a while (incredibly straight disc I recommend you try) and finally got a buzzz. Didn’t disappoint for a laser straight disc into the wind. Awesome throw-in anny with the mako3! I have a mako3 as well but don’t bag it often due to always playing in a lot of wind. Keep the great content coming!
I love my Mako 3. Laser straight and has lots of glide. I don't have much arm speed as a new player in my 50's but I can fly it about 225 on a flat shot with it never getting above head high.
Hey Glenn, are you a former baseball player? If you are, consider trying forehand. I started at 53, I'm 57 now. I started soon after right knee surgery so I couldn't really plant for a backhand. So the guy who was teaching me asked if I played baseball. I pitched into college so yes. I can throw a forehand 375' fairly easily and I can crank it up to 400'+. I do throwback decent backhand now, about 325', but I'm way more consistent with the forehand. Good Luck!!!
The mako 3 is my go to for tor anheiser flex line. It holds them all day. My straighter midrange with a little more of a stable finish is the champion roc 3. My overstable midrange discs are the esp zone and the jawbreaker zone (pancake top).
Been loving the content, do you edit your own videos. You have inspired me to try and start making disc golf videos once I can get the equipment needed.
As a guy who has thrown esp buzzz and champ mako3, I can say that Buzzz is more OS but ESP plastic gets beat in fast. Power wise, the more you add the easier it is to flip the mako3 from hyzer to anny. Mako3 does late turnover for me as well so it doesn't finish left at all for me. Buzzz, well, out of the box holds it's line but once it gets few hard tree kicks in, shits gonna be stable. Add too much power to it and it's gonna flip from small hyzer to flat or from straight to anny. Either way both are good discs to use so use whatever you like.
I like the buzzz but I’ve taken most the 5 speeds out of my bag for forehands and stick with 4 speeds. I keep two mids for backhands, I have the meteor and a malta.
Mako3 is my favorite mid for slight left to right shots or hyzer flip tunnel shots in the woods. My favorite all around straight mid is my EMac Truth though.
New to the sport and loving how much I'm learning from you. Would you consider doing a deep dive on one of your shot commentaries, like, during your edit, give us the director's commentary and point out on the screen what you mean about flippy/turning/flexing. Trying to understand what are synonyms and what are variations in flight control that you pros know inherently!
A Star Cobra has the rim of the Buzz with an slight understable flight of the Mako3. I love the Mako3 but I hate the rim lol. I throw Mako on anything from 225'(touch shot) to 300'. It just does what you think it's going to do time after time.
I bag both as the mako is great for tunnel shots but the buzzz is much better for shot shaping and I use it much more often. The mako just loves to flip up and go straight and in the woods, where I play most often, unless it’s a tunnel, I don’t have as much use for it. Also buzzz is better in the wind.
I don't own a buzz so can't compare but my Mako3 is and always has been my "if I could only play with one disc" disc. In fact I own it in all the plastics, lots of colors. Star is my favorite but champion is also really really nice.
I liked the buzzz it was simple to use, but the comet is the versatile discraft disc you really need. If you have good release angle and nose control you can do everything a buzzz can do and more with the comet.
For a beginner, I'd say Mako3. It is almost like throwing a putter; it will show if you throw badly. AND if you have good technique, it glides forever. Put more pop on hyzer and it will flip up. Also nice for smooth anhyzers, not much power needed and it will hold the angle the whole flight. For a casual round I only bring the Mako3 (Star 175g), even OK to use for putting. Buzzz is much more stable I'd say and for a beginner it is like a fairway or even driver, tons of glide even here. For me, the Buzzz goes almost as far as a distance driver, that's how good it is! And it is much easier to throw than a distance driver. However, my favourite mid is a Roc3 in Star 175g, only due to how much easier it is for my hand to find a comfortable grip/how the disc feels in the hand.
I’ve just been playing seriously maybe a month with the innova starter pack (using a DX leopard driver and DX Colt putter but not using the mid). Just today my new discs arrived and I played my normal 9-hole course and shot my best round ever (6 birdies, 2 pars, 1 bogie) using just the Mako3 the entire time. It’s now my favorite disc! 😂 ⛳️
Great video mate. I bag a Mako3 in both Star and Halo plastic. I also have a Fuse for those BH turns. I also bag a dyed Roc3 with some KC Rocs. I was thinking about getting a Buzzz also to fill that position between my Roc3 and Mako3. But then I suddenly realized I had a GT Buzz First run in a box. Went for it and yeah, its something to try with. I feel like I should use my Mids more. I usually just pull out my Pig or a Fairway Driver. Keep up the good work!
Nice video. Your result here is how I feel about the Mind Bender MD1 vs. the Origin. I now have both in my bag, replacing my Roc and Mako3. And in both cases, if I had to choose one to keep, it would be the more glidey, rounder edged, better anhyzer disc... I play wooded courses without a forehand (elbow issues), so hyzer flips and annie turnovers are more important than powering up.
origin is so frickin flippy i love watching that disc fly it swims thru the air haven't seen enough of the mind bender to really get a good bead on the flight no pun intended i almost wish i didn't love rocs as much as i did but there's something really special about the flight of the roc especially when it has a lot of spin there's just something so gentle about its flight pattern dave dunipace is a genius and he gets a lot of credit but he deserves more man was a total pioneer and there's a reason other people keep trying to get their discs to fly like innova molds too bad their QC is literally a dumpster fire but hey i think that's part of the charm of dg is that it's so jank at times and you gotta notice the subtleties
Was watching this and thought to myself, that hole looks like one I just played up in Illinois. Low and behold, same course. Did you realize it was a Steady Eddy original while you were playing it?
I wanted to like the Buzzz the best and even more so because you could also get the OS and SS versions.....but what I realized is that I was bagging 3 discs for what the Mako could do by itself.
I have champion mako3 and Z buzzz. The champion mako3 is just so awkward and the hand and sharp on the bottom. Hard to get release right, almost too straight flying? Buzz is cool but I prefer more glide, so my champion roc3 is my baby. I also am a true believer in the wombat3, similar to a mako3 with more glide and a much more comfortable grip. Wombat3 so underrated.
Recently found this channel, Dude! you have a great stream of consciousness that makes it entertaining to hear opinions/hold the attention of goldfish like me ;) gj!
I have a Buzzz, Buzzz SS, and Mako3. The Buzzz SS is more comparable to the Mako3 than the Buzzz and both and very straight flying when not overpowered and more understable than the standard Buzzz. I use the Mako3 for most mid range straight line throws.
The Buzzz is the best disc I have ever thrown period. Easiest to throw, best plastics available, and I made more money from that disc alone than any other disc on my cart.
For me the m4 and m3 is the best flying midranges and if i want some More overstabel MD the MX-3 is perfect:) i started throwing prodigy like 1 month ago and i fell i love With them
I think the mako3 is actually best in champ plastic and it does have alot of glide. My buzz has a good bit of turn on it compared to my mako3 but ultimately I took out the mako because I have a lat64 compass that I like better.
Vibram IBEX (I know ... they are impossible to find) is a better Buzz! Must stubborn left to right shape possible in any disc I've thown! I need to see if Lone Star wants to revive it in their own plastic.
Buzzz is nice because you can cycle them from slightly overstable down to flippy. Z Buzzzes tend to be even more overstable than ESPs. Eventually you can get a Buzzz to be a Mako3, but you can never eventually make a Mako3 a Buzzz (granted, I haven't tried Halo Mako3s).
Well said 👏 the Buzzz is a disc you will love for life when you learn to appreciate it. I've certainly never heard someone say "I bag 2-3 different mako3's" 😁
@@FormerAmericanIdol Now you have. I bag a Halo Mako3 max weight for anything where I need pinpoint accuracy for straight or turnover shots. My go-to approach disc is a very seasoned R-Pro Mako 3 that's only 165. Huge turnover shots that never fade and land flat. Short placement shots where you need to put it right THERE. It's especially good for low-ceiling shots where you need a ton of carry. The lighter weight helps it push farther than a max-weight one. I carry an OG San Marino Roc for hyzer-flip shots, especially flat to turn. My approach game is as good as it gets. I'd cry if you told me I couldn't carry my Makos, especially in the woods.
I love the mako 3, but don't bother to carry midranges anymore *one exception If I can't reach it with a putter, a midrange probably won't get there either, so might as well go driver. I do carry an overstable midrange because i don't always want the driver skip.
Bought a Z Buzzz and just could not stand it. My son's Buzzz SS is awesome though. I use a Fission Hex and Neutron Reactor. I would like to try a Mind Bender as well one day.
if i dont late release my Champion 177 gram Mako 3 and i give it plenty of spin from wrist and dont throw it too hard then it flies DEAD straight with ZERO fade to about 275 feet on flat ground 300 on down hill and you can rip it HARD up hill flat release and will want to turn but not burn and carry up the hill BUT BUT BUT i will say you can only use this disc in low wind conditions when wind picks up i move to my WASP and if wind gets heavier then then 10mph like 15mph + i go to my Badger bcuz the headwind makes over stable disc fly stable like Mako3 if thrown on correct angle
It is always funny when noobs want the "farthest flying midrange". The whole point of midrange is that it doesn't fly as far. Just find what feels good in hand and has stability for your arm speed. Thinking there is 1 disc to rule them all is stupid tribalism. I bag Thought Space Pathfinder, it is like a more confortable in the hand Buzzz.
Never liked the Mako 3 because it couldn't handle torque like a brand new Buzz could. Honestly one of my favorite straight discs was my King Cobra miss that disc.
Not sure why Buzzz is considered a straight midrange - especially not out of the box in premium plastics. Meteor and Impact (this disc needs more attention!) are better for this as far as Discraft molds.
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All 3 of my aces have been Mako3s. Needless to say, I'm now bagging Mako3s forever.
It's straight, and very "neutral" in that, depending on your angle, arm speed, and snap, it holds whatever line you throw it on.
I have 2 aces with my mako 3 ! :)
Just got my first ace, with a Star Mako3 a few months ago!
Just bought 2 of them. Should be here today! 😆
For me, Axiom Hex is the top tier straight flying midrange. I’ve had Mako3, Buzzz, and Texas Ranger all in my bag at various points. All three of them had various things I didn’t like that the Hex corrected (for me at least).
Hex was too shallow for me, I prefer the Thought Space Pathfinder molded by MVP. It has a feel more like a Buzzz in hand but better.
Agreed I love my hex. I also LOVE my paradox, it is a great understable midrange.
Hex is my go to as well. Used to be a mako man when I threw Innova. Tried the buzz, def has more stability than I liked for that disc type.
Love the Hex! The rim feel is perfect for me. Plus, I find that the Gyro allows it to hold the high-speed part of its flight for longer…
I want a hex. I love my pyro and meteor. Woods player
I never fell in love with the. Buzzz the way I wanted to. I finally found the mind bender and love it. If you like the feel of the buzzz though try a buzzz ss
I have the exact same experience!
I really wanted the Buzzz to be a disc I bagged, but it never really clicked for me. Loving the Mind bender though.
Or if you don't like the Feel of the Buzzz but do like the flight, try the Berry by Clash Discs 👌🏻
Don't write it off yet, I know I bought a Buzzz soon after starting and it just didn't work how I wanted. It's not a disc to "learn" with imo. Went back 1.5-2 years later and realized it was just me, not the disc. Now I own at least 10 of them 😁
@@FormerAmericanIdol I do write it off for me. I wanted to like it BUT I just couldn't release it comfortably, it being so darn shallow. I did like the flight tho WHEN I got a good release off
Same! MB in the bag.
I love the buzzz. It’s great for those straight tunnels and very versatile. I also like to use it forehand. I have one in big z plastic and it’s almost a flat top.
I found a Mako3 today!What a great disc!!! It flies so straight. Hopefully I can find the owner but I'll keep using it for now. Definitely picking one up for myself.
Love this! The mako3 is hard to learn and takes a little time to get used to. I love the mako3 cuz it goes straight and almost no fade. My dad got a mako3 aswell but he cant use it cuz he hasnt trained enough with it. Hope to see you progress with it
That was my take on it too, the mako3 is my preference haven't found anything as straight or shapeable. Mine is in star plastic and frankly I think champ might have been the right call, star is beating in a little and now it's maybe a -.3 turn not quite -.5 but it will never fight out of a turn now. And I seem to forget that too often. But it is 'point and shoot' so to speak
I feel like The buzz SS would be a more fair comparison to a mako 3 not just because of its flight numbers but because of its edge design the rims are very similar between a bus SS and a mako 3 where is a standard buzz is a little bit more stable then people give it credit for also the thing that I like about the buzz is the buzz comes in three flavors you have the buzz OS you have the buzz and of course you have the buzz SS based off that variety there's not such a thing as a mako 3 over stable or I may go three under stable so it makes a lot easier to simplify your bag in terms of what mid-range is you want but of course everybody's different but that's my two cents worth taking or leave it LOL
I have an esp buzzz and a star mako3 in my bag. I throw the buzzz more as it feels more reliable in the wind with its over stability and almost never flips. The mako3 is better for gliding super straight down tunnels etc and doesn't really fade left or right just stays on its line. Also great for anhyzers. I find them to be completely different discs really, both with their uses, and I have a comet which is like a mix of the two and is my favourite for approaches and long throw in putts.
My mako3 broke in to be pretty flippy with like no fade at the end when thrown hard. I barely use it anymore
I like the Buzzz for low straight forehands and the Mako3 for soft floaty backhands. Very different, I agree.
Recently found your channel. You’re posting content about literally everything my husband and I are into at the moment…disc golf, van life, and reselling! So awesome. I really enjoy the content and hope to see you go all the way and even win worlds one day! 👏🏼
I'm a beginner and started with the champion Mako3 and Roc3 (F2 discs) for a while before getting an ESP Buzz in my first tournament. For me, the virgin Buzz flies very similar to the Roc3 (meaning a similar fade on my basic backhand). The Mako3 finishes straighter for me currently.
Noyce! Old time stomping grounds for me there. Played west, shorewood, and channahon all the way back in early 80s! Spent days at shorewood as a kid. SOOOO much more busy now a days. Wow.
I have 5 buzzz discs right now. The 2023 Halloween Z Glo was the first and I fell in love with it. Bought a Titanium, Z, Big Z and an Elite Z 20th Anniversary (each in various weights). They are all pretty similar with slight differences, but nothing beats that Z Glo which is always in my bag along with another Buzzz (depending on the course and/or weather conditions), a Champion Mako 3, a DX ROC (old DX plastic) and an Alien (which I’ve come to love when using it more as a long approach/putter disc rather than a mid range). I want to give the Hex a shot. I love the feel of my 2 Insanity discs (1 proton and 1 Neutron) and want to try another Axiom disc. That’ll be next spring. I bought too many discs this year (still have 4 more in transit) and promised myself I’d not get anymore except for this year’s Halloween Buzzz……
Great comparison. I bag both Champ Mako3 and Buzzed (z plastic) and they fly the exactly the same for me. For me, they are different slots, true straight and buzz with a finish. The Mako3 also feels weird in the hand but i got used to it and trust it now.
For the longest time I was always wondering what the buzz was about in regards to the buzzz. Been throwing the buzzz ss for a while (incredibly straight disc I recommend you try) and finally got a buzzz. Didn’t disappoint for a laser straight disc into the wind. Awesome throw-in anny with the mako3! I have a mako3 as well but don’t bag it often due to always playing in a lot of wind. Keep the great content coming!
mako could work as your turn over mid. i love you so much
I love my Mako 3. Laser straight and has lots of glide. I don't have much arm speed as a new player in my 50's but I can fly it about 225 on a flat shot with it never getting above head high.
Hey Glenn, are you a former baseball player? If you are, consider trying forehand. I started at 53, I'm 57 now. I started soon after right knee surgery so I couldn't really plant for a backhand. So the guy who was teaching me asked if I played baseball. I pitched into college so yes. I can throw a forehand 375' fairly easily and I can crank it up to 400'+. I do throwback decent backhand now, about 325', but I'm way more consistent with the forehand. Good Luck!!!
The Discmania MD1 Mind Bender beats both of these discs. You should check it out! :)
The mako 3 is my go to for tor anheiser flex line. It holds them all day.
My straighter midrange with a little more of a stable finish is the champion roc 3.
My overstable midrange discs are the esp zone and the jawbreaker zone (pancake top).
Good video. The Mako3 goes right for me almost every time when I throw backhand. I compared both and find the Buzzz more reliable.
Been loving the content, do you edit your own videos. You have inspired me to try and start making disc golf videos once I can get the equipment needed.
thank you! yes, I do all my own filming and editing!
7:15 haha that was awesome!! definitely replayed that a few times
Buzzz seems to be in and out of my bag often. Few mids to take a look at is the pathfinder from TSA aswell as the origin or MD1 from discmania.
Ive made some crazy distance putts with the mako3 champion plastic
As a guy who has thrown esp buzzz and champ mako3, I can say that Buzzz is more OS but ESP plastic gets beat in fast.
Power wise, the more you add the easier it is to flip the mako3 from hyzer to anny. Mako3 does late turnover for me as well so it doesn't finish left at all for me.
Buzzz, well, out of the box holds it's line but once it gets few hard tree kicks in, shits gonna be stable. Add too much power to it and it's gonna flip from small hyzer to flat or from straight to anny.
Either way both are good discs to use so use whatever you like.
I like the buzzz but I’ve taken most the 5 speeds out of my bag for forehands and stick with 4 speeds. I keep two mids for backhands, I have the meteor and a malta.
I tried to like the BUZZZ but it just isn't meant for my hands like the Mako3 is. The only thing that comes close to the Mako3 for me is the MD1.
Mako3 is my favorite mid for slight left to right shots or hyzer flip tunnel shots in the woods. My favorite all around straight mid is my EMac Truth though.
Perfect video for me. I have a couple of Buzzes and am close to buying a couple of Mako 3s.
This was a ton of fun to watch! The buzzz is my favorite rn
New to the sport and loving how much I'm learning from you.
Would you consider doing a deep dive on one of your shot commentaries, like, during your edit, give us the director's commentary and point out on the screen what you mean about flippy/turning/flexing.
Trying to understand what are synonyms and what are variations in flight control that you pros know inherently!
A Star Cobra has the rim of the Buzz with an slight understable flight of the Mako3.
I love the Mako3 but I hate the rim lol. I throw Mako on anything from 225'(touch shot) to 300'. It just does what you think it's going to do time after time.
great way to compare discs! I'll be returning here for more :)
I bag both as the mako is great for tunnel shots but the buzzz is much better for shot shaping and I use it much more often. The mako just loves to flip up and go straight and in the woods, where I play most often, unless it’s a tunnel, I don’t have as much use for it. Also buzzz is better in the wind.
I don't own a buzz so can't compare but my Mako3 is and always has been my "if I could only play with one disc" disc. In fact I own it in all the plastics, lots of colors. Star is my favorite but champion is also really really nice.
I liked the buzzz it was simple to use, but the comet is the versatile discraft disc you really need. If you have good release angle and nose control you can do everything a buzzz can do and more with the comet.
For a beginner, I'd say Mako3. It is almost like throwing a putter; it will show if you throw badly. AND if you have good technique, it glides forever. Put more pop on hyzer and it will flip up. Also nice for smooth anhyzers, not much power needed and it will hold the angle the whole flight.
For a casual round I only bring the Mako3 (Star 175g), even OK to use for putting.
Buzzz is much more stable I'd say and for a beginner it is like a fairway or even driver, tons of glide even here. For me, the Buzzz goes almost as far as a distance driver, that's how good it is! And it is much easier to throw than a distance driver.
However, my favourite mid is a Roc3 in Star 175g, only due to how much easier it is for my hand to find a comfortable grip/how the disc feels in the hand.
I’ve just been playing seriously maybe a month with the innova starter pack (using a DX leopard driver and DX Colt putter but not using the mid). Just today my new discs arrived and I played my normal 9-hole course and shot my best round ever (6 birdies, 2 pars, 1 bogie) using just the Mako3 the entire time. It’s now my favorite disc! 😂 ⛳️
Hi me from almost 4 months ago! Fancy meeting you here!
Great video mate. I bag a Mako3 in both Star and Halo plastic. I also have a Fuse for those BH turns. I also bag a dyed Roc3 with some KC Rocs. I was thinking about getting a Buzzz also to fill that position between my Roc3 and Mako3. But then I suddenly realized I had a GT Buzz First run in a box. Went for it and yeah, its something to try with. I feel like I should use my Mids more. I usually just pull out my Pig or a Fairway Driver. Keep up the good work!
If u like the feel of the buzzz more I'd recommend trying the buzzz ss as some point. It has a more similar flight to the mako3 with that same feel.
Nice video. Your result here is how I feel about the Mind Bender MD1 vs. the Origin. I now have both in my bag, replacing my Roc and Mako3. And in both cases, if I had to choose one to keep, it would be the more glidey, rounder edged, better anhyzer disc... I play wooded courses without a forehand (elbow issues), so hyzer flips and annie turnovers are more important than powering up.
origin is so frickin flippy i love watching that disc fly it swims thru the air haven't seen enough of the mind bender to really get a good bead on the flight no pun intended i almost wish i didn't love rocs as much as i did but there's something really special about the flight of the roc especially when it has a lot of spin there's just something so gentle about its flight pattern dave dunipace is a genius and he gets a lot of credit but he deserves more man was a total pioneer and there's a reason other people keep trying to get their discs to fly like innova molds too bad their QC is literally a dumpster fire but hey i think that's part of the charm of dg is that it's so jank at times and you gotta notice the subtleties
MD3 is my favourite straight flying disc. It is so glidy!!
Very cool. What is the weight of each disc?
I have both and are used for specific situations individually
Dude, try a Rift. Best feeling midrange I’ve tried, and I’ve had both ESP Buzzz and Star Mako3. Also has sneaky glide.
A lot of DGA discs are sneaky good. Pipeline, Banzai, Breaker, Steady BL….
@@clipnclap4256 …Quake, Sail, Aftershock, Squall, Hurricane…they are honestly all good.
Was watching this and thought to myself, that hole looks like one I just played up in Illinois. Low and behold, same course. Did you realize it was a Steady Eddy original while you were playing it?
Going to get a Mako3 but I am in love with how straight my Wombat3's go...
You could try göte and origin too little understable but pretty straight flying
I wanted to like the Buzzz the best and even more so because you could also get the OS and SS versions.....but what I realized is that I was bagging 3 discs for what the Mako could do by itself.
I have a buzzz I bought in like 2000 and I still bag it. The Hex is basically the same flight, but longer.
I have champion mako3 and Z buzzz. The champion mako3 is just so awkward and the hand and sharp on the bottom. Hard to get release right, almost too straight flying? Buzz is cool but I prefer more glide, so my champion roc3 is my baby. I also am a true believer in the wombat3, similar to a mako3 with more glide and a much more comfortable grip. Wombat3 so underrated.
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Recently found this channel, Dude! you have a great stream of consciousness that makes it entertaining to hear opinions/hold the attention of goldfish like me ;) gj!
I have a Buzzz, Buzzz SS, and Mako3. The Buzzz SS is more comparable to the Mako3 than the Buzzz and both and very straight flying when not overpowered and more understable than the standard Buzzz. I use the Mako3 for most mid range straight line throws.
The Buzzz is the best disc I have ever thrown period. Easiest to throw, best plastics available, and I made more money from that disc alone than any other disc on my cart.
For me the m4 and m3 is the best flying midranges and if i want some More overstabel MD the MX-3 is perfect:) i started throwing prodigy like 1 month ago and i fell i love With them
The Buzzz is also great for a super straight pin point forehand and they handle torque pretty well, but the Buzzz OS is better for the forehand
I carry both a buzzz and mako3 I love both of them
You need to try to MD1 or the Origin from discmania! Buzz feel but closer to that mako3 flight!
bro your putting is on point!
I think the mako3 is actually best in champ plastic and it does have alot of glide. My buzz has a good bit of turn on it compared to my mako3 but ultimately I took out the mako because I have a lat64 compass that I like better.
Vibram IBEX (I know ... they are impossible to find) is a better Buzz! Must stubborn left to right shape possible in any disc I've thown!
I need to see if Lone Star wants to revive it in their own plastic.
Buzzz is nice because you can cycle them from slightly overstable down to flippy. Z Buzzzes tend to be even more overstable than ESPs. Eventually you can get a Buzzz to be a Mako3, but you can never eventually make a Mako3 a Buzzz (granted, I haven't tried Halo Mako3s).
Well said 👏 the Buzzz is a disc you will love for life when you learn to appreciate it.
I've certainly never heard someone say "I bag 2-3 different mako3's" 😁
@@FormerAmericanIdol Now you have. I bag a Halo Mako3 max weight for anything where I need pinpoint accuracy for straight or turnover shots. My go-to approach disc is a very seasoned R-Pro Mako 3 that's only 165. Huge turnover shots that never fade and land flat. Short placement shots where you need to put it right THERE. It's especially good for low-ceiling shots where you need a ton of carry. The lighter weight helps it push farther than a max-weight one. I carry an OG San Marino Roc for hyzer-flip shots, especially flat to turn. My approach game is as good as it gets. I'd cry if you told me I couldn't carry my Makos, especially in the woods.
Try the gateway element, it replaced my buzzz
i have a star mako3 and i haven’t spent enough time to learn it. esp buzzz can be a staple in anyones bag
What are your thoughts on bagging both?
if they are different feeling or throwing for you do it!
I would love to see comparison of buzz OS , buzzSS and buzz 🐝
I have both the mako3 and a flex buzzz in my bag
I enjoy both discs!
12:07 mako's so solid it BROKE the chains!!!
I love the mako 3, but don't bother to carry midranges anymore *one exception
If I can't reach it with a putter, a midrange probably won't get there either, so might as well go driver.
I do carry an overstable midrange because i don't always want the driver skip.
Can't declare the best straight flying midrange until you throw a Hex
I'll have to test it out!
Rift!
Bought a Z Buzzz and just could not stand it. My son's Buzzz SS is awesome though. I use a Fission Hex and Neutron Reactor. I would like to try a Mind Bender as well one day.
if i dont late release my Champion 177 gram Mako 3 and i give it plenty of spin from wrist and dont throw it too hard then it flies DEAD straight with ZERO fade to about 275 feet on flat ground 300 on down hill and you can rip it HARD up hill flat release and will want to turn but not burn and carry up the hill BUT BUT BUT i will say you can only use this disc in low wind conditions when wind picks up i move to my WASP and if wind gets heavier then then 10mph like 15mph + i go to my Badger bcuz the headwind makes over stable disc fly stable like Mako3 if thrown on correct angle
The super straight modified Wasp!
You have to try out the Axiom Hex!!
It is always funny when noobs want the "farthest flying midrange". The whole point of midrange is that it doesn't fly as far. Just find what feels good in hand and has stability for your arm speed. Thinking there is 1 disc to rule them all is stupid tribalism.
I bag Thought Space Pathfinder, it is like a more confortable in the hand Buzzz.
Just found your channel great video 👍
Mako and mind bender then buzz and roc are more comparable imo..the buzz has more fade until you beat it in. I bag 3. 1 mako and 1 mindbender
Z plastic buzzz vs Champion Mako 3?
I’ve love my mako3, made alot of miracles happen with it. 😅
I bag both. The fly different. My Mako is becoming my understable & the Buzz has a super predictable fade
I have an prodigy M-US that DOES NOT fade if thrown without the nose up.
just found your channel and you are local to me lol. instant subscribe! hope to see you out on a course!
Get the pyro for forehand mid
Mako3’s okay, I can’t stand the Buzzz, but for me it’s Gold Compass all day
The right comparison would be with a Buzzz SS
Never liked the Mako 3 because it couldn't handle torque like a brand new Buzz could. Honestly one of my favorite straight discs was my King Cobra miss that disc.
Check out the Mind Bender
Not sure why Buzzz is considered a straight midrange - especially not out of the box in premium plastics. Meteor and Impact (this disc needs more attention!) are better for this as far as Discraft molds.
What are the weights
both max weight, I think I say that around the 6 minute point!
Warship! In Tournament plastic.
my halo star Mako3 got beat in this summer and now if I put it on a deep hyzer it still flips all the way over and tumbles out of the sky lmao
Axiom Hex. Give it a try.
in the works!
The Buzzz is literally the best disc I bag
If you like your emac truth, you may look at using a normal truth for your straight-flyer. Same disc, just a dead straight flyer.
Bruh I was literally playing that same course yesterday and found a buzz with that same color🙃
md1 is better than both. Buzz is not a neutral disc when new.
The Axiom Hex trumps both the Buzz and Mako 3.
I'm all about the TRUTH!!!
Compass!