Cities Skylines 2 Has MAJOR Issues With Performance

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  • @kalaak
    @kalaak ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny thing is, the last time I upgraded my setup was exactly when Cities Skylines 1 launched. Guess I have to upgrade it again now.

    • @beezienkirsten
      @beezienkirsten ปีที่แล้ว

      Try wait for the 5090s release

  • @kevinjhonson5925
    @kevinjhonson5925 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4000 hours plus in the original but i think I’ll wait 6 months till the performance is fixed. I also want to see how the mods work out. I’m concerned the mods will blocked by a subscription service.

  • @eliasadam2345
    @eliasadam2345 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember back to Simcity 2000 and begging my dad to upgrade our computer so we could play it. I remember Simcity 4 and how I learned how to upgrade my computer myself so it could run properly.
    City builder games always pushed computers to the max and developers build the game in mind that the hardware will catch up. Always been that way.
    Good on Paradox for at least being honest about the performance of the game. EA wouldn't put out a statement like this and just lie.

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh man, the days of playing the older sim city’s alongside roller coaster tycoon on an old laptop with 1 GB of ram, I feel ya. Great points

  • @panzer_TZ
    @panzer_TZ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last December I upgraded from a 4690K/GTX 1070/16GB rig to a new 7700X/RTX 3080/32GGB rig, both self-built. I play all my games at 4K with little issues, but I have noticed how badly many modern games are optimized. I can play better-looking games at 4K 60 fps like RDR2, while I get framerate drops on games like Halo Infinite or Hogwarts Legacy.
    The minimum requirements of CS2 don't seem that bad to me, considering the game's scope. This is a fully 3D, realistically looking, city-building game with every person and their life modeled in-game. COVID kind of put the last 2-3 years into a blackhole, but a 970 is a 9-year-old GPU at this point. I'm not going to lie that it sucks to already see my $800 GPU already on the recommended specs of a new game. When I bought my 1070, it was so powerful at the time that it took at least a half decade before it started showing on system requirements.

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 1070 really was a great card! I just upgraded to a 3080 this year and was definitely taken back the first time I saw it under recommended as well lol. Colossal Order is definitely trying to balance making the game work for the current year in addition to future tech upgrades. Will be interesting to see just how well the recommended specs perform imo

  • @-force-2339
    @-force-2339 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wanted to give the game a try but with these very high recommended specs I am hesitant if not turned off entirely. The game itself looks ok, but not on a level that I would expect a RTX 3080 to be needed. There are games out there that look miles better but have much lower requirements.
    And then there is the underlying issue I have with Paradox games in general. The main game is only 5% of the whole experience, if you want a somewhat full game you need to buy DLCs, lots of DLCs. Essential things that make the game "the game" are locked behind DLCs that need to be bought, I am starting to dislike this sentiment because that allows them to underdeliver and say "wait some years and you'll have all that content via DLCs!". Take Anno 1800 for example, it has lots of DLCs too, the main game however has the fundamental systems present and allows you to push them to certain limits - this is the point where DLCs expand UPON these systems, to make them even more complex after mastering the base game. In Paradox games however it often feels like "Well here should be a mechanic or a button but that's not here because you are missing the DLC".
    And in a way, the bad performance is just that - just disguised. The performance should be great for a fully released game that costs 50+ bucks. It shouldn't be an "afterthought" that gets implemented later down the line with updates. Sure you can always improve it but ramping up the recommended specs to the 2nd best graphics card on the market right now while the game honestly looks like a graphically modded version of CS1 is a bit... underwhelming to say the least.
    I'll wait for reviews of the released game and see if it's worth investing money but again, the recommended specs alone make me very hesitant to even consider looking at the reviews and trying the game at all.

    • @darkdavey
      @darkdavey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree wholeheartedly, Any other dev teams pulls this and the torches and pitchforks come out.

  • @CharlieGeneralS
    @CharlieGeneralS ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just got to trust the process after release, it may be buggy etc at the start but it will become something greater later on

    • @ponas9767
      @ponas9767 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The gaming industry in a nutshell rn, release a not ready game and fix it after release. How have people come to accept this!?

    • @CharlieGeneralS
      @CharlieGeneralS ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ponas9767 So what do you offer in return? Force a studio to release when they openly state they need more time and have another Cyberpunk situation? The devs were open and honest, they have been the entire time and its a video game, and i imagine it takes alot of work and effort to build something like CS2.

    • @The_Timeking
      @The_Timeking ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CharlieGeneralSI pay the full price, I get the full game. Not any trash 10 fps powerpoint presentation game, the real game. And if I offer them the full money they want from me, then I expect to get the full game. It's as simple as that and it always has been like that but now the standard as been set low in the past years due to people accepting such poor decisions.

    • @horkrust7322
      @horkrust7322 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@CharlieGeneralSI personally would have waited with announcing the game until it is in a somewhat ready state. Then you can build up hype and promo for half a year and in that period you can further optimise the game. But as for now, the publisher push the studio to announce a game with a very tight timeline to fix everything that is still wrong with it and just like in construction, delay is almost inevitable . And I dont now why. There have been hundreds of games that would have been world class titles with big big revenue in sales, if it was just optimised.

    • @bustabusts
      @bustabusts ปีที่แล้ว +1

      think of it like this if they lie and obscure what's going on imagine all the stuff they're not telling you. this game is not going to play like you think it is and it's not a traditional City Builder. think of all the content creators that didn't talk about this.. not to mention the mod thing is not because they didn't want to use steam it's because they want to limit mods so that it doesn't interfere with their DLC and people porting stuff from the old game.

  • @arthurl5280
    @arthurl5280 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    We need a game for the next 8 years not the last 8 years
    We don't want the game dumbing down to the lowest denominator

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s a great point, have to develop a game that will continually get better as the technology improves while at the same time catering less to those who are less inclined to upgrade with the current times.
      I would imagine that it’s challenging as a game developer because I’m sure they’d like the most amount of people playing their game as possible. Guess we’ll see how it performs next week lol

    • @drummonkeystuffuk1875
      @drummonkeystuffuk1875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PhoenixGingeIt makes me laugh at how many people complain about poor optimisation on their specific setups, I mean the amount of different hardware combinations out there is insane, and if they were to optimise for every one of the configs, theyde never release or finish the games. haha

    • @Tedger
      @Tedger ปีที่แล้ว

      This. Could not agree more.

  • @Pooter-it4yg
    @Pooter-it4yg ปีที่แล้ว

    You forget to mention that city builders aren't twitch games. As long as there aren't stutters and FPS keeps up with mouse commands they're generally fine.
    That said, I'm expecting a few problems with CS2 even on a PC that's only two years old...

  • @nykolabilochenko7370
    @nykolabilochenko7370 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is there any chance that release version of the game or day 1 patch will improve situation?

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “We will continually improve the game over the coming months” - is a direct quote from Colossal Order. I would expect patches over the next few weeks/months to improve performance, but I’d be surprised if a day 1 patch is a saving grace!

  • @TheBlueBunnyKen
    @TheBlueBunnyKen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is why I don't pre-order anymore, games are rushed and not properly tested. They had to give content creators early copies to get feedback on what to fix

    • @greatscott1674
      @greatscott1674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did this

    • @TheBlueBunnyKen
      @TheBlueBunnyKen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greatscott1674 I said they gave it to content creators for them to test it, this game wasn't ready for release

  • @grunzythepotato
    @grunzythepotato ปีที่แล้ว +3

    having a 5800x and 3080 as the recommended is WILD! I have a 5800x but only a 3060ti so it will be interesting to see how it performs

    • @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
      @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 ปีที่แล้ว

      1080p Medium about 25fps in a big city.
      but thats not the only thing, the game is like CS1, with a couple of upgrades.
      Unlike CS1, the new game is GPU hungra, 8 cores should do fine, but more RAM on a GPU is better in this case.

    • @danielanonimfox
      @danielanonimfox ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 its Unity pal...dont matter how much cores you have😀

  • @pixel-ink
    @pixel-ink ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Specs are in the middle, but my CPU is only 3.2 ghz (i7 8700) and I only have an RTX 2060 (6 G), 32 G Ram. So, I am sure the game will run fine when I have 100 sims, but not do well at 60k.... I think CS2 looks more realistic, but it does have some significant flaws. So, I think CS2 is a downgrade. I'll pass for now until I see more detailing content, better performance and how well the Mods will be implemented. I wouldn't rush into buying this at this time. Its better to wait. I still have CS1 that still works great.

  • @Shroud83
    @Shroud83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My pc is right about the recommended specs... CPU not quite there but GPU is spot on.
    Really looking forward to the game, but I won't take out my credit card just yet and wait for the first reviews. I will eventually buy it, but I don't need to have it immediately if it turns out to be a hot mess performance wise.

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have Xbox Game Pass PC I would definitely check it out on there if you just want to test your system out when it releases. Otherwise waiting and watching reviews is the best thing you can do!

  • @steveaustin4118
    @steveaustin4118 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I've learned not to pre-order I can wait to see if they fix it or it stays unoptimized

  • @ronniarbitiaas3095
    @ronniarbitiaas3095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many bugs need fixing? Yes, probably.
    But I am not sure there are actually a lot that can be optimized.
    Maybe this is just a big complicated game that truly require a good machine to play.
    I am eager to play it anyway.

  • @lightning5374
    @lightning5374 ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely think i don't even have the minimum specs to run CS-2

  • @vgrundea52
    @vgrundea52 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will buy CS2 but not immediately, I'll wait a while to see the bugs disappear. I have some problems already with CS1 even if my computer meets the requirements. Right now I am saving, I am saving :) as we talk about a computer around 2000 euro

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty solid strategy in my opinion. Should be a great budget for an excellent PC!

  • @samivedmproductions5298
    @samivedmproductions5298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i11-14600KFC R2D2 T1000 XGPU 1280 fcking gigawatts of RAAAAAM Is it ENOUGH !???

  • @alnagy1700
    @alnagy1700 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an AMD 7700X 32gb of Ram and a 7800XT. Hoping at the very least I get decent performance at 1440 or I will turn it down to 1080

    • @pluschy7886
      @pluschy7886 ปีที่แล้ว

      4090 can’t do 1440p in this game very well apparently. 28 FPS at high settings 1440p

  • @spartan362kauten8
    @spartan362kauten8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently bought my self a new gaming PC, Specs i7 13700F, GTX 4070 12 GB), 32 GB, & with 1 TB SSD. Might upgrade my ram 64 GB. So for me I’m good to go having the settings on high LoL.

  • @StrangerCoug
    @StrangerCoug ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My gaming computer is about three years old now, but it's roughly right at the recommended specs as far as the CPU and GPU are concerned. It can apparently still handle most new releases just fine.
    As far as frame rate issues, in my opinion it doesn't need as high of one as, say, a first-person shooter or something else where split-second reaction times are a must. I get your point for cases when it's noticeably rough, though. I've seen C:S1 bog down to as slow as about 15 FPS if I remember right, for instance. Forget about playing it with less than about 16 GB of RAM, too (though, to be fair, most computers have at least that now).

    • @beezienkirsten
      @beezienkirsten ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out vids of recommended set up n looks so bad goes below 10fps even on min settings soon as population increases it gets bad.

  • @HiddenMissive
    @HiddenMissive ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm running an Intel i9-9900 and an NVidia RTX 2070 Super, and I'm pretty worried about being able to run the game at launch, even though I've already purchased it.

    • @brettstoo514
      @brettstoo514 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have a 1660 super 😬 i was just about to preorder it tonight too so i might have to wait

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว

      A 2070 Super should ultimately have enough power to run the game at 1080p, with the keyword being should lol, but we’ll just have to wait and see!

  • @Noda971
    @Noda971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really I'm not worried about the GPU, it's my cpu, it beats the minimumspec by just a little but still lags behind the recomended. Still I'm sure it'll be fine and I'll eventually upgrade again with better tech so I would hope the game is future proofed

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's almost exactly what I ran into with the first Cities Skylines. CPU bottlenecks until I finally upgraded, huge game changer.

  • @KB-tec01
    @KB-tec01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryzen 7 5800x and a RX 6800 XT so we will see how it runs, wish me luck!! :)

  • @fiefafoo
    @fiefafoo ปีที่แล้ว

    I can play Starfield and BG3. And I checked. Also Cyberpunk. But some how I can't play CS2 fully? 😂 I knew my PC wouldn't run the newest games at some time. But this soon? It sucks.

  • @Silverwolvie
    @Silverwolvie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12Core (64GB) with AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT (20 GB) yeah pre ordered CS2.. on the mods... yeah well steam WS was pile of sheit with al lot shady mods also I used it but... yeah.. So I hope Paradox will be vigilant on that part... ow and people are panicking about there will be no scripted mods any more because console, if any had paid attention in the live stream this week scripted mods would still be available for PC but console only assets... (rolling my eyes) ....anyways check the last community stream and LISTEN to the community Manager when they talk about modding!!!!

  • @surmanito3849
    @surmanito3849 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Ryzen 5 3500X 6-core / GTX 1660 super / 16gb ram, do you think its enough to play the game with above potato-graphic settings?

  • @DM-fe2bc
    @DM-fe2bc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As far as responsible and transparent companies go, CO has top notch. The simple fact of the matter is, in order to achieve the features, the video quality, the audio quality, and longevity that the community demands, either the game has to take a performance hit, or the players need the hardware to accommodate the performance the game demands.

  • @simmybear31
    @simmybear31 ปีที่แล้ว

    It used to be city builders were the games played by people with rigs that couldn’t handle AAA titles 😂😂

  • @ShaneDR009
    @ShaneDR009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Console player waiting for launch, but may get it for Mac if that goes ahead. It should. If it comes out at the same time as consoles I’ll have to see is a mouse going to offer better control or the controllers are good.

  • @alx1431
    @alx1431 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 3700x and 32gb of ram so that won't be the problem. My 6650xt on the other hand might be a problem but I honestly don't care enough about gaming to consider upgrading my gpu anytime soon.

  • @justdude7222
    @justdude7222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doesn't matter to me to be honest. I've been saving up for a top of the line gaming PC but have to say I'm buying it sooner then planed.

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว

      A high end PC can power through just about anything 😂

    • @pluschy7886
      @pluschy7886 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhoenixGingeexcept for this shit show. 4090 gets 28 FPS 1440p High 💀💀💀

  • @crnpowerimmortal
    @crnpowerimmortal ปีที่แล้ว

    started the game with my 4090, got 30fps with default settings on starting a map. Uninstalled immediately

  • @tommantek3632
    @tommantek3632 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good thing I've got a 4070ti and i7 13700kf with 32GB of RAM. I should be fine.

    • @dummyxl
      @dummyxl ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a new 4070 non ti.. I am a bit afraid running Mods will be a problem.

    • @tommantek3632
      @tommantek3632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dummyxl nah you will be fine.

  • @clouxy8380
    @clouxy8380 ปีที่แล้ว

    i5-8500 / GTX1060 6GB / 16GB RAM

  • @ZGPAK
    @ZGPAK ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think it can run if it managed to run it will be unplayable for my laptop 😞😞

  • @Suprimmsi
    @Suprimmsi ปีที่แล้ว

    I7 13700KF/ 32GB RAM/ 4090 24GB. I think it will be fine

    • @portman8909
      @portman8909 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If specs are good enough you can brute force any poorly coded game.

  • @Deborah5000
    @Deborah5000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But it doesn’t even run well on the best gpu’s.

  • @BIGKILL215
    @BIGKILL215 ปีที่แล้ว

    My PC have a CPU 5800x and GPU 6800,and 32G of RAM.But I will upgrade the CPU to a 7800x3D and GPU 7900XTX in the coming months with you guys thank

    • @drummonkeystuffuk1875
      @drummonkeystuffuk1875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      youll need a new motherboard and memory to run the 7800x3d

    • @BIGKILL215
      @BIGKILL215 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drummonkeystuffuk1875 I forgot to talk about that , you right thanks.

  • @503Vinniet
    @503Vinniet ปีที่แล้ว

    I take it my Acer Predator laptop with a 1660ti is boned then. Bummer. I'd buy a new computer but I'm not even hearing good things from people with like 3070's. Super disappointing. Performance was the single worst thing about the original game and now it's even worse.

  • @georgebrown4199
    @georgebrown4199 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 gb 3080, ryzen 9 5900, 128 gb ram.

  • @SuperMickyChow
    @SuperMickyChow ปีที่แล้ว

    i7-9700k rx6700xt 32gb RAM
    Once i saw my specs dont even hit recommended any more, i refunded my pre order.
    I play all my games in 1440p, so I'd be lucky to hit 20fps. I might buy it in a few years once ive upgraded, but Im not paying for something i know will be a stuttery mess on my current system

  • @lukjavgon
    @lukjavgon ปีที่แล้ว

    why you say it has major performance issues? the game didn got release yet, the statement could be for minimum problems that some player can see on low end system, it just and statement, and for the other hand its the cost of upgrade the game, new game base, new hardware requirments.

    • @horkrust7322
      @horkrust7322 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope there are several content creators with early Access that are reporting issues even on the highest end of pc's. It seema like that as the population rises, the fps drop below 20 even on systems with 4080s or better

    • @horkrust7322
      @horkrust7322 ปีที่แล้ว

      Additionaly only 7% of the steam users systems meet the recommended specs. Also the content creator early Access version is the same one that will be released next tuesday

  • @yip2454
    @yip2454 ปีที่แล้ว

    5700x / 7900 XT / 16gb ram

  • @Samuel_Rioux
    @Samuel_Rioux ปีที่แล้ว

    time to upgrade my 2080ti..

  • @testwill23.
    @testwill23. ปีที่แล้ว

    i7 12700k/ 32gb ram/ rtx 3070ti

  • @gamergatsbi6414
    @gamergatsbi6414 ปีที่แล้ว

    of course... release early get money and not giving a fck about customers... sounds like normal bs.. pass

  • @VictorHugo-xo9uz
    @VictorHugo-xo9uz ปีที่แล้ว

    bro it didnt even released yet

  • @lkp7481
    @lkp7481 ปีที่แล้ว

    5700x and 6750xt so just a hair under recommended. Hopefully will be ok

  • @chrisrussellca
    @chrisrussellca ปีที่แล้ว

    This is not even a problem, old tech is quickly being obsolete, faster than the past. I think it’s clear that hardware upgrades or consoles should be considered.

    • @ManuDashOficial
      @ManuDashOficial ปีที่แล้ว

      bullshit, with most next-gen titles that have been released on recent years, optimization is inexistent, if old tech is now obsolete, is because they wanted it to be, not cuz they're TRULY obsolete.

  • @ndekker76
    @ndekker76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i9 / 32gb / 4070 with 8gb ram.

    • @PainfulEditz
      @PainfulEditz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have this...but as a laptop...is it good enough? 😢

    • @midnightprince
      @midnightprince ปีที่แล้ว

      Upgrade your ram to 32 gb

    • @ndekker76
      @ndekker76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@midnightprince it is 32gb

    • @ndekker76
      @ndekker76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PainfulEditz same here.. Brand new legion pro 5.

    • @PainfulEditz
      @PainfulEditz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ndekker76 You got a discord or something? I'd love to see if we can compare differences in performance when the game releases. I have a Samsung Book 3 Ultra

  • @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
    @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 ปีที่แล้ว

    i preordered the game in july, 83€ in good faith. My rig was above the reccomanded, now its right in between the Min and Rec.. LOL
    Min CPU - 2600x
    My CPU - 3600x
    Rec GPU - RTX 3080
    My GPU - RTX 3070
    at least i got 32gb of ram...
    Needles to say, i requestet a refund and i got it, ill probably buy CS2 in a couple of years or so.
    Kinda lost the appetite for a city builder now.

  • @meowritz
    @meowritz ปีที่แล้ว

    Real classist game

  • @MellowWater
    @MellowWater ปีที่แล้ว

    So paid mods huh

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colossal Order confirmed that paid mods will not be a part of the new system. I would bet that we might see more paid content creator packs than in the first game though? But that's really just a guess

    • @MellowWater
      @MellowWater ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PhoenixGinge That's great news

  • @Tedger
    @Tedger ปีที่แล้ว

    Potato issues.

  • @ozner55
    @ozner55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    soooo you know literally nothing. why does this video exist??
    the embargo gets lifted today. either delete this, or update it with any actual information.

    • @PhoenixGinge
      @PhoenixGinge  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colossal Order put out the statement, not me lol

  • @SShiJie
    @SShiJie ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Ryzen 5600, RTX 4060, 16GB RAM, a brand new 180hz refresh rate monitor, is that enough?🫠