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Just like surround sound. Nobody cares.... Unless you put car crash sounds together...but then you're not a music producer , just an audio effects guy for film
What's the best apple Mac to buy for logic pro , should I go with the newest and most expensive or is there a cheaper option that has the same capabilities to produce the same results
@@marmedli9124 audio uses a fraction of what animation and video needs. So even the base M1X 14" is enough. Recommend going with 1TB storage, just to be safe , for libraries and system usage. Files can be stored on ultra fast externals the size of a credit card.
@@cityraintunes I agree with the OP. I love Logic but it just kinda sucks for manipulating audio and pitch in real time. Apple's pitch algorithms are always really weird and "artifacty" no matter which mode is used. Also, the functionality that Ableton's warp has just isn't there. Try doing anything like what Chris Lake does with his percussion, or try to replicate that cool part of "Funk Soul Brother" where it slows down, then speeds up in Logic -- it's next to impossible.
@@cityraintunes Ableton's warp algorithm is so good at quantizing, especially if you're doing it by hand. The automatic quantize algorithm is also miles ahead of logic. I almost never use automatic quantizing on Logic (talking about audio files, not midi). Also, if you need to slow down or speed up a file, logic's algorithm doesn't do a good job of making it sound good. Often times you'll get choppyness, or weird sounds that shouldn't be there.
@@Skrenja I’ve been messing with Flex for a few iterations of the software now and I can definitely say it’s improved a lot. My own complaint about the artifacts and stuff is that they seem to pop up at random. It used to happen a lot, now not nearly as much, but there’s still no rhyme and reason, so if I needed to squash a bad mixing habit in order to solve the problem, I can’t because it just seems to happen at random. But again though, it’s improved. I flexed an entire vocal line the other day, something from a sample pack, just to mess around, I took it from a high C all the way down to an F two octaves down and it sounded like gold. One thing I definitely have noticed though is if there’s any artifact or impurity in the track you’ve got on Flex, it’s absolutely going to stick out like a sore thumb if you bend it. Better off just redoing the part in that case.
@@starsmash7491 He's talking about converting a MIDI Region into a Pattern Region. Previously before 10.7 you could only convert Patterns to MIDI Regions, not the other way around.
I could hear the spatial audio difference quite clearly on my speakers. Headphone not necessary if your speakers are good and placed correctly. I like it!
@@hrhcrab if you're not mixing on or listening through an atmo$$$ system, it boils down to dialing in the same old panning and levels via a 3D interface. cool, but not to be confused with an actual atmos experience.
@@carsoncarr-busyframes619 yeah I’m assuming that the industry is unhappy that we now can afford the means of production (pardon the pun) and this is a new way to try and lift it out of the reach of as many of us as possible. But the joke is on them: I still have only 2 ears.
To make an accurate comparison, you need to lower the volume on the spatial mix to match that of the stereo mix. I believe many in the comments found the spatial mix better because it was simply louder and therefore appeared to have more presence. To my ear, however, after making the volume adjustments, the stereo mix was better. The spatial was just muddy. The low mids were mushy. It lacked clarity and punch. I'm sure one can mix in spatial successfully, but I would imagine that would take a lot of experimenting. We're just at the beginning of figuring out how to use this new technology.
Technology. Nope, we aren't in the beginning. Apple is marketing it as if it's a beginning. Audio post-production people have been mixing in Atmos for almost a decade. Do we not consider Film scores music? the foundation of how to mix in atmos is there, it's not like people are starting from scratch. The problem is that people are stubborn, they don't want to mix a very dynamic song. Learn from Audio post people and take it from there. there's a reason why atmos are mixed that way, though yes its film but its not just because it's "film". it's because of decades of experience mixing with atmos, that they basically know what generally works. But Apple wants to make it look like the technology is totally new. It's not. With how to balance with the stereo, just like most surround multi-channel material, forget stereo mix. Mix in surround/multi-channel, then downmix to stereo. For decades, people have found out already that the best workflow is downmixing to smaller channel count, never upmixing. The same way you mix in stereo then check in mono, the priority is stereo, the one with more channels should be the main. They should just follow that same philosophy for music mixing, I mean it's made that way for a reason.
All I know is it gives me more control of my mix. I already imagined my tracks as filling various parts of a room. Now I can actually visualize all those dimensions and give different tracks their own space! That’s wonderful!
Nobody will hear it as you intend because nobody has a correct listening environment. No cans will have the correct phase relationship to reproduce what you heard when mixing. Nobody cares if the hihat is behind and above the snare, They are trying to hear a groove. Commercial music is about emotion, not precise positioning in an imagined 3D space. You have 2 ears. Spacial audio was always just another way to fleece the hifi customer.
@@Magnum-Farce You are right on - I think a lot of listening is done through small bluetooth speakers but I also think a lot listeners are using headphones and I, personally, think it's worth it to spend an extra half hour doing some spatial tweaks to the mix to also target those listeners.
I started on a on an Atari running Notator in the 90s, then a G4 with Logic 6, right up to an iMac with Logic 8. Then I got tinnitus and sold everything. 8 years later I'm back on Logic version 10 and its amazing! Thx for the vids =]
So.. this is something interesting. I watch tons of different producer TH-camrs and you are one of few that actually sounds crystal clear during your videos. Also beautiful setup and thanks for the Logic content 💜🙏🏼
Hey, huge fan! You’ve helped me immensely when it comes to learning about logic!! Will you be making a spatial audio/Dolby atmos course?? I am highly interested in that!
Excellent video as always! May I point out that headphones still can’t really make a sound come from up or down, and front or back? I get it, the sound is manipulated with predelay and ambience to simulate a position in space, but it’s still so much different from an actual sound playing behind you, or above you. So I imagine that for mixing in atmos correctly you’d really need several speakers positioned in space…. What do you think?
Great video, thanks! Personally I’m not too impressed with the Dolby atmos, I preferred your stereo mix - there was too much space taken up on the other. I listened on a set of higher end AKG headphones, but the whole surround thing didn’t work for me, the low end frequencies became too scattered.
Superb on all levels, thanks for this awesome video !!! Wow, spacial is next level fun for my production for sure. I have always had these features in past free DAWs. Good to finally have these features in Logic, now Logic is truly worth every penny.
..I learned and starting to love logic x from your videos, 90 percent i know now is from watching your tutorials for almost 6 years, please tell to the people from apple that logic x is the only daw in 2021 that does not import 32bit float files...and when it exports the samples from the arranger to the user loops it converts them to 16bit...😞 regards and thank you for your amazing tutorials!
Many people have switched to another music editing program, this one does not have the ghost notes that they facilitate for those of us who do not know music theory is falling far behind,
Came across your channel by the odds, but I very much like your attitude and the way you talk your stuff. Plus, this video is very helpful and very well made. Thank you for making and sharing. Subscribed 👍
Thanks for the great course! Being able to select midi input ports per track that you covered in the end of the MacProVideo course is a wonderful improvement! Perhaps time to move from Mojave to Big Sur now…
If you have any pull with Logic programmers, perhaps suggest a blues drummer... They have all these drummers, and the lack of a good blues swing drum option seems a weird miss, as blues is a major music form. I realize that the drummers allow you to add a swing to the drums, but it just isn't the same.
When, if ever, do you think the Logic Team will make it so the U.I. can be enlarged? I have bad eye sight and it's very difficult to set up my workstation the way I want it, because I have to keep my Screen so close to see it.
@@MusicTechHelpGuy Yea I know :D But these labels are saved in the DAW settings and not in the project settings. So every time i work in another session there are my I/O labels from the last one. I think that works much smoother in Pro Tools. :)
Great video! After seeing these examples and some similar ones on Sonicstate, I think the stereo mix sounds better than the binaural one - what do you think?
Used my DT 990 Pro 250 ohm to listen to both mixes and the stereo mix sounded punchier and fuller to me..the spatial sounded good but for music stereo is the way to go
Hi, I am unsure if Dolby Atmos feature misses the target group of this software. I see still open issues in usabilty like just doing a little double click with pointer tool to achive setting a note in piano roll. So all these things should be adapted in favor to ableton live users. They are used to better and much faster workflow. Thanks and best regards!
I have used almost all DAW’s in existence. Logic is very powerful but there are simple fixes needed. e.g it’s is very frustrating to change note sizes in the piano 2) moving buses quickly to create your unique channel strip. 3) importing MP3 correctly. Most times I convert to wav file 44k/16bit. Does anyone else have simple issues with this DAW.
@@Kilogramproductiontt hey concerning mp3 I think it is most common standard. However you should take care about using high bitrates arround 320things per second to keep higher quality. Nevermind you can export to wave and consider other formats like ogg or flac which are more sounding good in my opinion. Cheers Tim
The only thing that keeps Logic away from me is the Time adjustments feature of Logic - Flex is not up to the standard! Everytime I record drums and adjust the timing, Logic introduces artifacts that sound like an alien movie!
3d audio mixing. Ah shit...I love my studio one and it's a great DAW. I do miss Logic though. I started recording and production work on Logic 9 back in 2010. I miss it so bad. Can't wait to get my hands back on Logic and try Pro X.
Damn, I don’t know if it is placebo or not, but for me, with AirPods Max the spatial one sounds louder/richer and can distinguish some sounds from left to right, but don’t really know, it’s youtube proper spatial audio compatible? That said, the tune is great and catchy. And as a very new person to anything audio, the project file shared is great.
What you’re hearing is a binaural stereo capture of the audio from Logic. So it’s the same as monitoring in binaural. TH-cam Doesn’t have to support spatial audio if I feed it a stereo file with the binaural elements rendered in.
Thanks for the video. This new features are for some type of producer who needs this tools natively. But Logic has to give a lot of steps forward to achieve the modern sound. In my experience from the 8 version until 10 (2007 - 2019) never renovates the old sample library that almost never sound updated, sound old out-dated. The native plugins are too old also, and the step sequencer is really not intuitive. that's why I prefer to switch to Ableton Live Suite, more expensive but with the modern sound my work needed, a jump to my music, to my sample library and to native plugins that really sound amazing. Hugs.
Sorry but personally i find the sequencer enought intuitive with a lot of functions, and for the modernity Logic has got a good synths library and stocks plugins like alchemy IMO, and you can also find a lot of modern sounds in Apple Loops
Binaural listening to the atmos mix is OK, but it doesn't replace the real thing so not sure if I'd want to mix that way. Only way to test the translation is to actually AB though I guess.
Great video! I much prefer your stereo mix. Dolby Atmos and spatial mixing serve a real purpose in a Film and TV world but from a listening perspective, I find musical instruments can sound lost and lifeless in spatial mode compared to a standard stereo mix. Of course, much depends on the placement and decisions made during the mixing process but personally I like to keep things mostly stereo with key elements narrow or mono. Adding spatial elements like reverbs, reflections, wide to narrow sweeps, dreamy guitars and vocals work well. I guess much depends on the intention and material but it feels important to keep things natural and in the real world. I can't wait to hear something like Cold Play or U2 in concert with microphones positioned accordingly to achieve a real world perspective (as if you were standing in the centre). Again, key elements would be quite stereo and central but the 360 reflections and atmosphere would be awesome!
Can you simplify Logic Pro X? I'm a songwriter who has written, recorded and self published 12 albums of original rock music. Music Tech Help Guy, you're a highly advanced expert of Logic Pro X with nearly 100 videos covering the spectrum of topics. But I need a simple process.
I have used almost all DAW’s in existence. Logic is very powerful but there are simple fixes needed. e.g it’s is very frustrating to change note sizes in the piano 2) moving buses quickly to create your unique channel strip. 3) importing MP3 correctly. Most times I convert to wav file 44k/16bit. Does anyone else have simple issues with this DAW.
Amazing content, as usual Josh!!! Will you be providing a tutorial on mastering for spatial audio? I have a lot of clients that are wanting those fancy little badges to appear when their records drop.
Daisy Chaining Midi Instruments now possible? Routing the midi out from say Arturia Pigments ARP/SEQ into NI Noire?? Takes seconds in BigWig... anyone found a way to do this Master - Slave midi port?
Thanks Music Tech Help Guy for always keeping us on top. Have they simplified MIDI channle toggle just as in we can so easily do in Cubase and also in stanalone Kontakt version- i am talking about the ability to switch Midi Intruments /plugins to different midi channels on different hardware midi controllers
I like the spatial audio for this example when it’s just instrumental music, however it still doesn’t have the same kind of punch as the stereo version. I’m finding whenever I switch over to an atmos mix on iTunes for any sort of music with a vocal, the vocal just gets buried and everything sounds weird and phasey. I think it’s a cool idea but still has a really long way to go to convince me personally. Glad Logic has implement this feature though. Very helpful in this day and age with this technology developing.
@@EricPeelMusic Yeah I think theoretically it could be done with some more control. Say with like a mid/side or a pan eq where you can adjust a threshold to split certain upper frequencies off in to those surround areas, but still retain some of the middle information so things don't get lost and too out of phase. Maybe that would work? I don't know.
@@tomhigham88 If the listener can hear 4 or more channels, then a surround tool makes sense. But if the listener is going to be hearing 2 channels only, ever, it makes no difference of the approach to get those 2 channels to sound a certain way. Maybe it's easier somehow to mix in 4 channels positioned around you while mixing, then it gets mixed down to 2 channels and somehow you achieved a faster result. Like mixing in 2 channels, you can use EQ and timing to trick the listener into moving things behind or above you, even listening in stereo only. And maybe this Spatial Audio thing does just that. But I like to know what exactly the heck it is doing because I don't like marketing gimmicks.
@@EricPeelMusic yeah agree, it probably sounds incredible when you've got 9 speakers and 2 subs around you to mix and then listen to it in, but the way it collapses to binaural just doesn't have me convinced yet.
I actually cannot convert some of my MIDI regions to Pattern Regions. And some of those regions are in the same track as regions that CAN be converted to Pattern Regions.
Hi Josh! Were you an instructor from IADT? I was a student if you were. I still love and use Logic Pro, it is and always be my favourite of all DAWs. Thanks for sharing!!
@@MusicTechHelpGuy Yes I was there. It was a true honour to be in your class, very much appreciated. Unfortunately I didn't finish because my wife ended up pregnant and had to be there for her to help out along with my 40 hour week schedule. Tuff time for me indeed, but managed to still love music.
Thanks for the update; very informative as usual! You're the best. I work in Graphics and Adobe still hasn't got their sh*t together to update to Big Sur, let alone Monterey. :(
all this cool stuff and I would just like the sustain on instruments to function as recorded.... can you start a recording with the sustain pedal down? can you split a recorded midi region without loosing sustain? Can you start playback in the middle of a midi region and hear the sustain? I am running on some older stuff, but these issues have followed me through any updates, im I the only one who struggles with this?
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6:39 Live Pattern Recording in SS
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Just like surround sound. Nobody cares.... Unless you put car crash sounds together...but then you're not a music producer , just an audio effects guy for film
Well this is where I stop updating since I don't plan to install Big Sur for at least another 2 years.
What's the best apple Mac to buy for logic pro , should I go with the newest and most expensive or is there a cheaper option that has the same capabilities to produce the same results
@@marmedli9124 audio uses a fraction of what animation and video needs. So even the base M1X 14" is enough. Recommend going with 1TB storage, just to be safe , for libraries and system usage. Files can be stored on ultra fast externals the size of a credit card.
I built a Hackintosh, I just need to update opencore before updating to Big Sur
I feel like it's been forever and Flex still doesn't even come close to Ableton's warp feature. I would love to see Logic work on flex.
Just curious as a user of both. What situations do you run into where you feel like this is the case? Thx!
@@cityraintunes I agree with the OP. I love Logic but it just kinda sucks for manipulating audio and pitch in real time. Apple's pitch algorithms are always really weird and "artifacty" no matter which mode is used. Also, the functionality that Ableton's warp has just isn't there. Try doing anything like what Chris Lake does with his percussion, or try to replicate that cool part of "Funk Soul Brother" where it slows down, then speeds up in Logic -- it's next to impossible.
Also with ableton live, it’s not necessary to update to Big Sur, if you’re running an older Mac that doesn’t qualify for big sir update.h
@@cityraintunes Ableton's warp algorithm is so good at quantizing, especially if you're doing it by hand. The automatic quantize algorithm is also miles ahead of logic. I almost never use automatic quantizing on Logic (talking about audio files, not midi). Also, if you need to slow down or speed up a file, logic's algorithm doesn't do a good job of making it sound good. Often times you'll get choppyness, or weird sounds that shouldn't be there.
@@Skrenja I’ve been messing with Flex for a few iterations of the software now and I can definitely say it’s improved a lot. My own complaint about the artifacts and stuff is that they seem to pop up at random. It used to happen a lot, now not nearly as much, but there’s still no rhyme and reason, so if I needed to squash a bad mixing habit in order to solve the problem, I can’t because it just seems to happen at random. But again though, it’s improved. I flexed an entire vocal line the other day, something from a sample pack, just to mess around, I took it from a high C all the way down to an F two octaves down and it sounded like gold. One thing I definitely have noticed though is if there’s any artifact or impurity in the track you’ve got on Flex, it’s absolutely going to stick out like a sore thumb if you bend it. Better off just redoing the part in that case.
Converting Midi to Pattern, FINALLY!
what do you mean by this? can't you just shift+command + right arrow to make copies of the midi region, or is there something i'm not getting?
@@starsmash7491 He's talking about converting a MIDI Region into a Pattern Region. Previously before 10.7 you could only convert Patterns to MIDI Regions, not the other way around.
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I could hear the spatial audio difference quite clearly on my speakers. Headphone not necessary if your speakers are good and placed correctly. I like it!
With respect David, it may sound good but you aren't receiving all the experience. Try headphones, you'll see :)
I wish logic would do an update where you can move the buses around in whatever order you like. Similar to Pro tools.
YES!
Create a track for the bus and reorder the track in the arrange window. A pain, yes, but it’s once and done. Then hide the track.
you can if you just right click on the bus and create it as a track
@@clouddddddddddddddd OR just turn or READ on the bus, then you can do what you want
I could hear stereo vs spatial difference without headphones from my Yamaha H7's. Just WOW. Even before hearing on headphones I'm sold. Thanks bro.
I'm so happy Dolby Atmos is finally available on Logic. Hopefully it means I can start working on Ambisonic audio.
I just checked and I still have only 2 ears!
@@hrhcrab if you're not mixing on or listening through an atmo$$$ system, it boils down to dialing in the same old panning and levels via a 3D interface. cool, but not to be confused with an actual atmos experience.
@@carsoncarr-busyframes619 yeah I’m assuming that the industry is unhappy that we now can afford the means of production (pardon the pun) and this is a new way to try and lift it out of the reach of as many of us as possible. But the joke is on them: I still have only 2 ears.
@@hrhcrab lol that's a funny take
@@hrhcrab "I still have only 2 ears."
Yep. Spacial mixing for commercial music is BS.
To make an accurate comparison, you need to lower the volume on the spatial mix to match that of the stereo mix. I believe many in the comments found the spatial mix better because it was simply louder and therefore appeared to have more presence. To my ear, however, after making the volume adjustments, the stereo mix was better. The spatial was just muddy. The low mids were mushy. It lacked clarity and punch. I'm sure one can mix in spatial successfully, but I would imagine that would take a lot of experimenting. We're just at the beginning of figuring out how to use this new technology.
Technology. Nope, we aren't in the beginning. Apple is marketing it as if it's a beginning. Audio post-production people have been mixing in Atmos for almost a decade. Do we not consider Film scores music? the foundation of how to mix in atmos is there, it's not like people are starting from scratch. The problem is that people are stubborn, they don't want to mix a very dynamic song. Learn from Audio post people and take it from there. there's a reason why atmos are mixed that way, though yes its film but its not just because it's "film". it's because of decades of experience mixing with atmos, that they basically know what generally works. But Apple wants to make it look like the technology is totally new. It's not.
With how to balance with the stereo, just like most surround multi-channel material, forget stereo mix. Mix in surround/multi-channel, then downmix to stereo. For decades, people have found out already that the best workflow is downmixing to smaller channel count, never upmixing. The same way you mix in stereo then check in mono, the priority is stereo, the one with more channels should be the main. They should just follow that same philosophy for music mixing, I mean it's made that way for a reason.
Nobody does it like a tdm/hdx pt system
The spatial Mix was definitely way more immersive. Really sounded like you were in the middle of the sound.
Spatial is so much better! It's a completely different listening experience. Hard to put into words but it feels like ear candy.
All I know is it gives me more control of my mix. I already imagined my tracks as filling various parts of a room.
Now I can actually visualize all those dimensions and give different tracks their own space! That’s wonderful!
Bruh I was searching on yt 2 days before the announcement for how to do spatial audio and now logic has it! POG
Nobody will hear it as you intend because nobody has a correct listening environment. No cans will have the correct phase relationship to reproduce what you heard when mixing. Nobody cares if the hihat is behind and above the snare, They are trying to hear a groove. Commercial music is about emotion, not precise positioning in an imagined 3D space.
You have 2 ears.
Spacial audio was always just another way to fleece the hifi customer.
Voice of truth!
@@Magnum-Farce You are right on - I think a lot of listening is done through small bluetooth speakers but I also think a lot listeners are using headphones and I, personally, think it's worth it to spend an extra half hour doing some spatial tweaks to the mix to also target those listeners.
My vote is for the spatial mix. I’m a huge fan of using panning creatively and this seems to take that to the next level
How could you react so fast and give us this flyover. Incredible. Clear and profound knowledge.
I started on a on an Atari running Notator in the 90s, then a G4 with Logic 6, right up to an iMac with Logic 8. Then I got tinnitus and sold everything. 8 years later I'm back on Logic version 10 and its amazing! Thx for the vids =]
So.. this is something interesting. I watch tons of different producer TH-camrs and you are one of few that actually sounds crystal clear during your videos. Also beautiful setup and thanks for the Logic content 💜🙏🏼
I was thinking that I’d never use the spatial audio but your demo sold me in just a few seconds. WOW!
Hey, huge fan! You’ve helped me immensely when it comes to learning about logic!! Will you be making a spatial audio/Dolby atmos course?? I am highly interested in that!
Spatial audio was magical and breathtaking
Excellent video as always! May I point out that headphones still can’t really make a sound come from up or down, and front or back? I get it, the sound is manipulated with predelay and ambience to simulate a position in space, but it’s still so much different from an actual sound playing behind you, or above you. So I imagine that for mixing in atmos correctly you’d really need several speakers positioned in space…. What do you think?
4:58 Spatial audio is so impressive! That background sound flying from the left - simply great!
Great video, thanks! Personally I’m not too impressed with the Dolby atmos, I preferred your stereo mix - there was too much space taken up on the other. I listened on a set of higher end AKG headphones, but the whole surround thing didn’t work for me, the low end frequencies became too scattered.
My goodness. LogicX continues to prove why it’s the best!
Really glad MacPro Video had the good sense to have you do courses for them. Some of the best (if not the best) on the "interweb"!!!
MIDI port sélection!!! FINALY!
This has been such a long-standing hassle, sometimes driving me to use other DAWs on certain projects.
Superb on all levels, thanks for this awesome video !!! Wow, spacial is next level fun for my production for sure. I have always had these features in past free DAWs. Good to finally have these features in Logic, now Logic is truly worth every penny.
Great video, thanks man. Really wish Apple would revamp their MIDI Environment. There's so many lingering things that they seem to be neglecting.
I love the write me a song button finally. Now I just have to think, and press a button, and I have a hit song. Thanks logic!
Awesome Logic Pro update walkthrough! Many thanks! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
..I learned and starting to love logic x from your videos, 90 percent i know now is from watching your tutorials for almost 6 years, please tell to the people from apple that logic x is the only daw in 2021 that does not import 32bit float files...and when it exports the samples from the arranger to the user loops it converts them to 16bit...😞 regards and thank you for your amazing tutorials!
You are one of the best resources to learn this DAW
Well presented and concise……………like it
both audio examples sounded good, spatial and stereo both. but the dolby atmos bounce sounded actually pretty 80’s vibes!
Spacial Audio (to me) is most definitely of superior quality!!!
Many people have switched to another music editing program, this one does not have the ghost notes that they facilitate for those of us who do not know music theory is falling far behind,
The spatial mix sounds amazing
Came across your channel by the odds, but I very much like your attitude and the way you talk your stuff. Plus, this video is very helpful and very well made. Thank you for making and sharing. Subscribed 👍
Thanks for the great course! Being able to select midi input ports per track that you covered in the end of the MacProVideo course is a wonderful improvement! Perhaps time to move from Mojave to Big Sur now…
Why not jump to Monterey
@@santoscetorz Good point. Will do some research to see if all plugins etc are compatible with that first though
STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. I LEARNED AND ENJOYED DOING IT. THANK YOU.
Can't wait to try the Surround 7.1.4 on Tuner
Yeah I’m still not sure why the tuner is surround? 😂😂😂
@@MusicTechHelpGuy I will wait for a video dedicated to this topic. ;-)
If you have any pull with Logic programmers, perhaps suggest a blues drummer... They have all these drummers, and the lack of a good blues swing drum option seems a weird miss, as blues is a major music form. I realize that the drummers allow you to add a swing to the drums, but it just isn't the same.
When, if ever, do you think the Logic Team will make it so the U.I. can be enlarged? I have bad eye sight and it's very difficult to set up my workstation the way I want it, because I have to keep my Screen so close to see it.
Thanks for this clip! Been following you for years and want to thank you for all the things I learned from your videos.
Car tests just got a little more exciting 😎
Oh sad. I was hoping there would be a function for rename buses or searching for plugins. :( But the Dolby Atmos thing is great.
You can already re-name your busses. Just go up to Mix > I/O Labels. Searching for plugins.... still hoping for that one eventually.
@@MusicTechHelpGuy Yea I know :D But these labels are saved in the DAW settings and not in the project settings. So every time i work in another session there are my I/O labels from the last one. I think that works much smoother in Pro Tools. :)
@@MusicTechHelpGuy Yes but that is global. A project based would be much better.
there is an app that adds plugin searching to logic x.
@@djkymaera really? 🤯 what is it called?
Always great to experience your tutorials and lessons Josh. Thank you very much!
The spatial mix sounded slightly better with both headphones and speakers, but not very different with headphones compared to speakers.
Thank you for the great video! I’m looking forward to experimenting with this new version of logic
The lighting in this video is really interesting. I mean it.....I'm not trying to be snarky.....it looks cool
Great video! After seeing these examples and some similar ones on Sonicstate, I think the stereo mix sounds better than the binaural one - what do you think?
I like the stereo mix better on speakers. I like the spatial mix better on headphones.
They each have their place and purpose, use them accordingly.
As a heavy logic and Abelton user, logic is going in with the gain plug-in for mixing
Give Thanks. Your help is greatly appreciated. Peace and Light.
LOGIC IS THE BEST DAW
Your energy is awesome!!!!
Used my DT 990 Pro 250 ohm to listen to both mixes and the stereo mix sounded punchier and fuller to me..the spatial sounded good but for music stereo is the way to go
Hi, I am unsure if Dolby Atmos feature misses the target group of this software. I see still open issues in usabilty like just doing a little double click with pointer tool to achive setting a note in piano roll. So all these things should be adapted in favor to ableton live users. They are used to better and much faster workflow. Thanks and best regards!
I have used almost all DAW’s in existence. Logic is very powerful but there are simple fixes needed. e.g it’s is very frustrating to change note sizes in the piano 2) moving buses quickly to create your unique channel strip. 3) importing MP3 correctly. Most times I convert to wav file 44k/16bit. Does anyone else have simple issues with this DAW.
@@Kilogramproductiontt hey concerning mp3 I think it is most common standard. However you should take care about using high bitrates arround 320things per second to keep higher quality. Nevermind you can export to wave and consider other formats like ogg or flac which are more sounding good in my opinion. Cheers Tim
I’m so happy right now
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Spatial is subtle. It does sound like it has more depth. Nice!
Thanks for the video. I have a question: how did you change how the waveforms look? They more similar to protools which honestly I prefer, thanks
Thanks for the Free Course Big Timer!!!!
The only thing that keeps Logic away from me is the Time adjustments feature of Logic - Flex is not up to the standard! Everytime I record drums and adjust the timing, Logic introduces artifacts that sound like an alien movie!
3d audio mixing. Ah shit...I love my studio one and it's a great DAW. I do miss Logic though. I started recording and production work on Logic 9 back in 2010. I miss it so bad. Can't wait to get my hands back on Logic and try Pro X.
Damn, I don’t know if it is placebo or not, but for me, with AirPods Max the spatial one sounds louder/richer and can distinguish some sounds from left to right, but don’t really know, it’s youtube proper spatial audio compatible?
That said, the tune is great and catchy. And as a very new person to anything audio, the project file shared is great.
What you’re hearing is a binaural stereo capture of the audio from Logic. So it’s the same as monitoring in binaural. TH-cam Doesn’t have to support spatial audio if I feed it a stereo file with the binaural elements rendered in.
amazing video bro really helpful !
Always quality ! Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video. This new features are for some type of producer who needs this tools natively. But Logic has to give a lot of steps forward to achieve the modern sound. In my experience from the 8 version until 10 (2007 - 2019) never renovates the old sample library that almost never sound updated, sound old out-dated. The native plugins are too old also, and the step sequencer is really not intuitive. that's why I prefer to switch to Ableton Live Suite, more expensive but with the modern sound my work needed, a jump to my music, to my sample library and to native plugins that really sound amazing. Hugs.
Sorry but personally i find the sequencer enought intuitive with a lot of functions, and for the modernity Logic has got a good synths library and stocks plugins like alchemy IMO, and you can also find a lot of modern sounds in Apple Loops
I prefer the stereo version. More powerful on mono instruments. Maybe it depends style of music, ambiant/relaxing music could be better in binaural.
Binaural listening to the atmos mix is OK, but it doesn't replace the real thing so not sure if I'd want to mix that way.
Only way to test the translation is to actually AB though I guess.
Always love your stuff! Been watching your channel for years!
Great video! I much prefer your stereo mix. Dolby Atmos and spatial mixing serve a real purpose in a Film and TV world but from a listening perspective, I find musical instruments can sound lost and lifeless in spatial mode compared to a standard stereo mix. Of course, much depends on the placement and decisions made during the mixing process but personally I like to keep things mostly stereo with key elements narrow or mono. Adding spatial elements like reverbs, reflections, wide to narrow sweeps, dreamy guitars and vocals work well. I guess much depends on the intention and material but it feels important to keep things natural and in the real world. I can't wait to hear something like Cold Play or U2 in concert with microphones positioned accordingly to achieve a real world perspective (as if you were standing in the centre). Again, key elements would be quite stereo and central but the 360 reflections and atmosphere would be awesome!
Wooo! Cant wait to make the jump to this version.
Wow so logic has became user friendly I love logic Pro and the way u r presenting the vedio ...... 👍👍👍👍
God bless you for the time stamps 🤩
As usual pithy and to the point. Many thanks.
🔥 Logic Pro is Undefeatable now
No, no it’s not.
Thanks for the video! 👍
Can you simplify Logic Pro X? I'm a songwriter who has written, recorded and self published 12 albums of original rock music. Music Tech Help Guy, you're a highly advanced expert of Logic Pro X with nearly 100 videos covering the spectrum of topics. But I need a simple process.
guess I won't have it until next year. i'm not gonna mess with Big Sur yet. i made that mistake a few months ago and half my stuff stopped working. :(
Great overview - thanks! Dolby Atmos is a fantastic addition.
I have used almost all DAW’s in existence. Logic is very powerful but there are simple fixes needed. e.g it’s is very frustrating to change note sizes in the piano 2) moving buses quickly to create your unique channel strip. 3) importing MP3 correctly. Most times I convert to wav file 44k/16bit. Does anyone else have simple issues with this DAW.
Any idea when when Logic 11 would be released?
Amazing content, as usual Josh!!!
Will you be providing a tutorial on mastering for spatial audio? I have a lot of clients that are wanting those fancy little badges to appear when their records drop.
loved the stereo
Daisy Chaining Midi Instruments now possible? Routing the midi out from say Arturia Pigments ARP/SEQ into NI Noire?? Takes seconds in BigWig... anyone found a way to do this Master - Slave midi port?
Thanks Music Tech Help Guy for always keeping us on top. Have they simplified MIDI channle toggle just as in we can so easily do in Cubase and also in stanalone Kontakt version- i am talking about the ability to switch Midi Intruments /plugins to different midi channels on different hardware midi controllers
I like the spatial audio for this example when it’s just instrumental music, however it still doesn’t have the same kind of punch as the stereo version. I’m finding whenever I switch over to an atmos mix on iTunes for any sort of music with a vocal, the vocal just gets buried and everything sounds weird and phasey. I think it’s a cool idea but still has a really long way to go to convince me personally. Glad Logic has implement this feature though. Very helpful in this day and age with this technology developing.
One of the few who is listening and not overhyping. Altering a stereo mix with dedicated mono lead tracks is a bad idea!
@@EricPeelMusic Yeah I think theoretically it could be done with some more control. Say with like a mid/side or a pan eq where you can adjust a threshold to split certain upper frequencies off in to those surround areas, but still retain some of the middle information so things don't get lost and too out of phase. Maybe that would work? I don't know.
@@tomhigham88 If the listener can hear 4 or more channels, then a surround tool makes sense. But if the listener is going to be hearing 2 channels only, ever, it makes no difference of the approach to get those 2 channels to sound a certain way. Maybe it's easier somehow to mix in 4 channels positioned around you while mixing, then it gets mixed down to 2 channels and somehow you achieved a faster result. Like mixing in 2 channels, you can use EQ and timing to trick the listener into moving things behind or above you, even listening in stereo only. And maybe this Spatial Audio thing does just that. But I like to know what exactly the heck it is doing because I don't like marketing gimmicks.
@@EricPeelMusic yeah agree, it probably sounds incredible when you've got 9 speakers and 2 subs around you to mix and then listen to it in, but the way it collapses to binaural just doesn't have me convinced yet.
Great Video - You're the Best Big Timer!!!!
Oh it's curtains lol. I have been waiting on this since last summer.
wow, you sound just like my teacher at The Los Angeles Film School.
Wow 🤩 just..wow!
I actually cannot convert some of my MIDI regions to Pattern Regions. And some of those regions are in the same track as regions that CAN be converted to Pattern Regions.
Hi Josh! Were you an instructor from IADT? I was a student if you were. I still love and use Logic Pro, it is and always be my favourite of all DAWs. Thanks for sharing!!
I sure was. I was there from 2010 until 2016 when they shut down! Did I have you in class? Glad to hear you're still loving Logic!
@@MusicTechHelpGuy Yes I was there. It was a true honour to be in your class, very much appreciated. Unfortunately I didn't finish because my wife ended up pregnant and had to be there for her to help out along with my 40 hour week schedule. Tuff time for me indeed, but managed to still love music.
Thanks for the update; very informative as usual! You're the best. I work in Graphics and Adobe still hasn't got their sh*t together to update to Big Sur, let alone Monterey. :(
omfg im so excited! =3
wait you need big sur and the top bar is ugly asf? 😢
Brilliant video, thank you, I preferred the second option with the new sound, pretty cool 😎
all this cool stuff and I would just like the sustain on instruments to function as recorded.... can you start a recording with the sustain pedal down? can you split a recorded midi region without loosing sustain? Can you start playback in the middle of a midi region and hear the sustain? I am running on some older stuff, but these issues have followed me through any updates, im I the only one who struggles with this?
Thanks, Josh! Excellent overview as always, man!
aweosme - spatial mx was amazing
Is there a place where Logic Pro x users can go to suggest new features in a new version of Logic Pro X directly to the logic pro x creators?
I used Logic for 12 years then switched to Live 2 years ago. It’s all about speed for me.
Thanks for the info! Well made video