In the C-17, the Aircraft Commander (AC) may sit in either seat. Unlike other aircraft, both pilots are qualified from either seat. During missions, we often swap seats in order to work on our proficiency. In addition, the highest ranking individual on the aircraft is not always the Aircraft Commander. I have seen 1st Lts as Aircraft Commanders while C-17 qualified General Officers are on-board.
If any of you know what a MAC flight is they are extremely awesome, I was able to fly in one of these bad boys twice at the age of 8, even went into the cockpit, even got to fly in a KC-10 while it refueled a C-17, what an amazing experience MAC flights are.
The power cutting off in the beginning was because of an over heat in the avionics. sometimes while on the ground in hot places the ground power cant supply enough cool air to keep it cool. The C-17 has powered flaps ie: use engine thrust for some lift. the application of power just prior to touch down decreases the decent and makes a very smooth landing as shown here. Also this flight wasnt generated just to haul some passengers around as they may have been on there as an incentive/orientation flight or as Space A travel. Space A allows members of military to fly on a plane going to a destination if there is room on the plane. The plane was already going on the flight anyway so adding a few people doesnt cost that much more at all. not 100,000 like the one guy stated
***** This flight has a training flight written all over it. LT in the cockpit with LT Col in FO seat. Aerial refueling. The LT was probably earning his qualifications for aerial refueling with the C-17. They often offer incentive rides to top performers in the Wing to come check it out since they are doing it already. This was not a flight just to take 10 people up in the air. This was a training/qualification flight that was utilized by some people to see some views. Aerial refueling is a very vital part of our air power.
Agreed...Lt taking forever to get to contact position, going way left and then moving way aft in the envelope after he hooks up, with the Lt Col's hands at the base of the throttle. Definitely some training going on there.
Hey Ray & Mark, do you guys know John Martinelli, he was the assigned FAA Flight Dispatcher at LGB /Edwards from our group for the C17. Once in awhile I got to go over there to dispatch one out to W291 and Palmdale. Even got jumpseat time.
Great work guys. Was one of the FAA Flight Dispatchers for Flight Test / Production from 1987 to 2002. Dispatched a few and got fly jump seat on a production flight out of LGB.
Is it normal to have that many people in and out of the cockpit / milling around near the cockpit? There seemed to be an additional bunch of people in that little anteroom just behind the cockpit at the top of the stairs (is there a name for that area?) including at least one other person with a big ole DSLR.
This is most likely a training flight for the LT with the LTC instructing him on how to do aerial refueling procedures. The teacher teaches and the students does.
In the C-17 and other military transports, the terms "captain" and "first officer" are not used to differentiate between the pilots of the left seat versus right seat. "Captain" is used for their rank designation only (like major, lieutenant, etc.). For procedural purposes when locations of controls (gear handle, switches, etc.) are significant, the C-17 uses "pilot" for the left seat occupant and "copilot" for the right seat occupant. When location of controls is not a factor but aircraft control is a factor, the terms "pilot flying" (PF) and "pilot not flying" (PNF) or "pilot monitoring" (PM) are used. The PF may relinquish control of the aircraft to the PNF/PM at any time. Based on experience levels or mission directives, the occupant of either seat may be the aircraft commander who is responsible for safe and effective mission accomplishment. The military ranks of the pilots or the designation of which pilot is the aircraft commander do not dictate who is in which seat or is in control of the aircraft.
Probably just a sheering wind... He did that just after the "50" call out was made, so chances are the headwind they had sheered off to almost nothing due to either terrain or a tree line... So he had to increase power to reduce his decent rate and avoid a very rough landing... Source: I'm an e175/190 pilot...
jasmenter C-17's flare with power, instead of stick, it allows the jetwash to deflect off the flaps and provide more lift, allowing the aircraft to have a lower groundspeed on touchdown.
Who is this guy?? He must be important. First I thought he was just hitchin a ride back to base. But this guy is important. I think.... Just wonderin....
"...serving you are our freedom providers." Sorry Fadi but you dont know that you are not free, you dont know what is freedom because you was never free!
the sense to use a flybywire side stick that does not actuate like a yoke does? therefore when one pilot applies inputs the other pilot is unaware of the inputs applied, and you get accidents like air france 447. yokes are superior in every form
Your snarky comment is ill informed. The C-17 was designed and primarily built by McDonnell Douglas. It's only affiliated with Boeing due to the merger of Boeing and MD. The C-17 does not have a side stick controller like the Scarebus. Rather, it has a center stick controller because it was determined that a the sidestick would not provide the leverage required to fly the aicraft via the C-17's mechanical back-up control system (a mandated safety feature) and because Air Force evaluation pilots universally preferred the centerstick. Only the upper portion of the stick column rotates laterally while the entire column is displaced for and aft for elevator control, ensuring no interference with the pilot's legs. Also, the sticks are interconnected and back driven for situational awareness as to the control inputs of the other pilot.
I'm really surprised they let him stand up during that refueling. I couldn't imagine what would happen if he fell the wrong way into the pilots or flight controls during that procedure.
I would love to get to fly in an a/c just like that with all the open cargo space. I was dumbfounded by the galley area until I realized that it's an external modular unit. Nice to see the cockpits of military a/c have been updated to glass cockpits with modern appearing avionics so the pilots can transition back and forth between commercial airliners and military variants.
onceaslayer is correct. he's under qual eval to become a commander of the c-17. the lt.col. is an instructor pilot qual eval.. the 1st.LT soon to be a capt..
Shoutout to the Crew seems like a nice bunch of guys!
In the C-17, the Aircraft Commander (AC) may sit in either seat. Unlike other aircraft, both pilots are qualified from either seat. During missions, we often swap seats in order to work on our proficiency. In addition, the highest ranking individual on the aircraft is not always the Aircraft Commander. I have seen 1st Lts as Aircraft Commanders while C-17 qualified General Officers are on-board.
Great video, two McDonnell Douglas aircraft in action: KC10 and C-17
Refuelling in flight - Airmanship at its best
Go McGuire! I see you guys flying these bad boys all over Ocean County! THAT'S a great view! Keep The Blue Side Up!
Lucky guy! I would love to take up the jump seat!
Had a fantastic time building T1 to P10 of these remarkable aircraft - GO Globemaster III!
I was in the DPRO/AFPRO there the both, not to mention the T-45
If any of you know what a MAC flight is they are extremely awesome, I was able to fly in one of these bad boys twice at the age of 8, even went into the cockpit, even got to fly in a KC-10 while it refueled a C-17, what an amazing experience MAC flights are.
The power cutting off in the beginning was because of an over heat in the avionics. sometimes while on the ground in hot places the ground power cant supply enough cool air to keep it cool. The C-17 has powered flaps ie: use engine thrust for some lift. the application of power just prior to touch down decreases the decent and makes a very smooth landing as shown here. Also this flight wasnt generated just to haul some passengers around as they may have been on there as an incentive/orientation flight or as Space A travel. Space A allows members of military to fly on a plane going to a destination if there is room on the plane. The plane was already going on the flight anyway so adding a few people doesnt cost that much more at all. not 100,000 like the one guy stated
***** This flight has a training flight written all over it. LT in the cockpit with LT Col in FO seat. Aerial refueling. The LT was probably earning his qualifications for aerial refueling with the C-17. They often offer incentive rides to top performers in the Wing to come check it out since they are doing it already. This was not a flight just to take 10 people up in the air. This was a training/qualification flight that was utilized by some people to see some views. Aerial refueling is a very vital part of our air power.
+OnceASlayer so they qualify on both seats? seems to me that the 1st. Lt. will be a Capt. soon...
Agreed...Lt taking forever to get to contact position, going way left and then moving way aft in the envelope after he hooks up, with the Lt Col's hands at the base of the throttle. Definitely some training going on there.
Amazing Nice Shots Thanks For sharing GOOD JOB GOD BLESSED BLESS AMERICA
It occurred to me such a small area of control for such a huge bird awesome
inflight refueling always impressive
Been inside that cockpit a few times.....25 years worth. Long Beach CA
Very cool. I was also there at the beginning. I was on the Flight Test team and went to Edwards with it for 2.5 years.
Hey Ray & Mark, do you guys know John Martinelli, he was the assigned FAA Flight Dispatcher at LGB /Edwards from our group for the C17. Once in awhile I got to go over there to dispatch one out to W291 and Palmdale. Even got jumpseat time.
Great footage! All those dang BUTTONS though!! Lol. Mad skill. Lucky passenger, no doubt!
Much better than the first class itself.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing and greetings from Germany!
Open the gate! Trevor Phillips is coming
Ha! Got the reference! He is is just in a small red duster, "Enjoying the view".
Fadi you are lucky person , that they let u in , and thanks 4 posting !
I'm surprised they would allow cockpit visits on such a critical stage of air to air refuelling.
I thought the same thing. They're strapped in so it should be OK.
Exactly what I was thinking ! It's gonna take a mid air collision with a fuel tanker to change that rule I guess.
@@bozsquad6146 yeah but he was standing the for most of the procedure. And the dude couldn't even get the seat harness on by himself smh
Thx Fadi for this vid! Great! Greats from Germany!
Interesting .. I am glad u enjoyed 😌
was involved with the first 5....she's a beast with elegance. B-)
Great work guys. Was one of the FAA Flight Dispatchers for Flight Test / Production from 1987 to 2002. Dispatched a few and got fly jump seat on a production flight out of LGB.
Good Video, Great Effort, Thanks.
NICE PICS of the inside of the plane.
349th! That's my unit.
+SiliconValleySky wow do u hang glide ?
+Solomon Pilot Yes! And student pilot in taildraggers too.
wow that is nice ,I am planning this year 2 learn how 2 hang glide!
Talk is cheap until your feet leave the ground!
well .I am professional pilot and ski diver buddy !
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Nice video, thanks for sharing!
Is it normal to have that many people in and out of the cockpit / milling around near the cockpit?
There seemed to be an additional bunch of people in that little anteroom just behind the cockpit at the top of the stairs (is there a name for that area?) including at least one other person with a big ole DSLR.
Thats where the toilet and the galley is.
Great video, thanks!
Very lucky man!!!
Super smooth landing
oh, Nice View Thank's ! ...Comment from JPN.
Great video of a wonderful plane . I agree however the selfies spoiled it a bit .
this its the nice video, big thanks for uploding, its the god jobs
great job!!!!
not even a single shake how this smooth landing is possible???
Fantastic video.: I’d love to get a chance to get on jumper seat 💺 on every Air Force planes and experience it in a lifetime I would do it
เครื่องบิน C-17 สวยครับ ตอนนี้ผมกำลังทำเครื่องบินบังคับลำนี้อยู่
扎心了，50年赶不上系列
so the lt is the pilot or the ltc? should the ltc be on the left side?
+Robert Fernandez captain is on the left, first officer on the right
+Andrew Armstrong i know but the captain (which i assume is the higher ranked LtC.) is the captain but hes on the right.
This is most likely a training flight for the LT with the LTC instructing him on how to do aerial refueling procedures. The teacher teaches and the students does.
In the C-17 and other military transports, the terms "captain" and "first officer" are not used to differentiate between the pilots of the left seat versus right seat. "Captain" is used for their rank designation only (like major, lieutenant, etc.). For procedural purposes when locations of controls (gear handle, switches, etc.) are significant, the C-17 uses "pilot" for the left seat occupant and "copilot" for the right seat occupant. When location of controls is not a factor but aircraft control is a factor, the terms "pilot flying" (PF) and "pilot not flying" (PNF) or "pilot monitoring" (PM) are used. The PF may relinquish control of the aircraft to the PNF/PM at any time. Based on experience levels or mission directives, the occupant of either seat may be the aircraft commander who is responsible for safe and effective mission accomplishment. The military ranks of the pilots or the designation of which pilot is the aircraft commander do not dictate who is in which seat or is in control of the aircraft.
Can anyone please explain the particular landing technique he used?
right below 50ft he increased power...
Probably just a sheering wind... He did that just after the "50" call out was made, so chances are the headwind they had sheered off to almost nothing due to either terrain or a tree line... So he had to increase power to reduce his decent rate and avoid a very rough landing...
Source: I'm an e175/190 pilot...
codzomz dude... that is soooo cool. Seriously, I want to learn how to fly.
codzomz Or he used the throttle to compensate for a high rate of descent so the touchdown wouldn't be too hard.
jasmenter C-17's flare with power, instead of stick, it allows the jetwash to deflect off the flaps and provide more lift, allowing the aircraft to have a lower groundspeed on touchdown.
I have the same Mickey Mouse T shirt!!
hail they mighty fix it graphite rod-----sign it off (as long as I don't have to fly on it)....
Pilots are cool as cucumbers 👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸
Great video, but please take off the shakiness remover. It does nothing :(
Who is this guy?? He must be important. First I thought he was just hitchin a ride back to base. But this guy is important. I think.... Just wonderin....
+Prince Chawmin Represents Trump, probably, eh?
pretty damn awesome
Could I get a seat with more leg room?
I want one
Transporting civilians?
+Seigfried Gustafson Air Force Reserve units have a means to nominate supportive employers for an incentive flight.
+SiliconValleySky Supportive employers?
+fuflang Civilian employers of Air Force Reserve members that have been supportive of their employee's military activities.
+Seigfried Gustafson contractors. that is the bulk of the freaking passenger load these days.
Great economics? Plane can hold 250 people but only has around 10 passengers. What did that flight cost the taxpayer 100,000?
***** So stop paying your taxes.
Milspec 747 will land anywhere,!
Lucky men! =)
The thumbs down are from the Army folks
Assim vale a pena voar hehehe
Nice Mickey Mouse shirt
جمييييل
"...serving you are our freedom providers." Sorry Fadi but you dont know that you are not free, you dont know what is freedom because you was never free!
Bibi
I think you were annoying the fuck out of theses pros
waste of money to fly so few. Oh well it's only tax payer's money. No big deal.
No offense, but you have a strange voice :)
What a friggin waste of money. No wonder this country going bankrupt.
Much more legroom than in coach
The way I see it, that's more legroom than any first class on a commercial jet
NOT BY MUCH. I've been in the C-17 cockpit REAL CRAMPED. TALL folks don't ask.I barely fit.I was 5'11" at the time.
Yea but no inflieght movies.
@@vybezD You could probably rig a projector up quite easily xD
@@MH5XXXX It's got a killer view though. And you can adjust those seats... by a lot. I'm 5'9'' and I fit in the seat just fine.
THE MICKEY MOUSE T-SHIRT IS EPIC.
How do you get to do stuff like this?
I didn't know the C-17 used a stick instead of a yoke.
+Harvey Mushman That's a surprise to me too! Actually looks weird in a big jet. Just no joysticks please.
+Curt Leake well, Boeing is starting to learn some sense from Airbus.
the sense to use a flybywire side stick that does not actuate like a yoke does? therefore when one pilot applies inputs the other pilot is unaware of the inputs applied, and you get accidents like air france 447. yokes are superior in every form
Your snarky comment is ill informed. The C-17 was designed and primarily built by McDonnell Douglas. It's only affiliated with Boeing due to the merger of Boeing and MD.
The C-17 does not have a side stick controller like the Scarebus. Rather, it has a center stick controller because it was determined that a the sidestick would not provide the leverage required to fly the aicraft via the C-17's mechanical back-up control system (a mandated safety feature) and because Air Force evaluation pilots universally preferred the centerstick. Only the upper portion of the stick column
rotates laterally while the entire column is displaced for and aft for elevator control, ensuring no interference with the pilot's legs. Also, the sticks are interconnected and back driven for situational awareness as to the control inputs of the other pilot.
Andrew Anane Of course you're a Brit, hence the gentle feelings. When did they stop teaching English in England?
I'm really surprised they let him stand up during that refueling. I couldn't imagine what would happen if he fell the wrong way into the pilots or flight controls during that procedure.
never been on a c17, on msflight sim X Stream edition I like flying the c17 and c5 now... C5 are more better to fly on long trips then c17..
Amazing footage. Awesome aircraft. Guess this the beginning of the end of moving troops by sea ?
I would love to get to fly in an a/c just like that with all the open cargo space. I was dumbfounded by the galley area until I realized that it's an external modular unit. Nice to see the cockpits of military a/c have been updated to glass cockpits with modern appearing avionics so the pilots can transition back and forth between commercial airliners and military variants.
I would want to take the pilot's seat mid flight just for a couple of easy turns and maybe a zero G pushover or two :)
CORZER0 and then you might have an Aeroflot disaster ...
Computer sounds like a emo pretteen girl at 13:12
You dont know Bitchin Betty?
If I were him, I would never want to leave that cockpit ;)
I love videos like this!! =)
Thanks for sharing this experience!
Excellent video, thanks, its not everyday you get to see this stuff.
awesome video! love the C17.
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I Love you USA 👈👍
Vin diesel
That takes some maad flying skills
Dude obviously doesn’t fly. I wondered why he refused the earphones the first time!
Парень по-ходу первый раз на самолёте полетел 🤦♂️
i hate the youtube jiggly wiggly stabiliser sucks
Difference between a military 747 & a civilian 747...??
Looks like there is plenty of leg room for the passengers.
Hey, if someone doesn’t want to go, hands up!
Really amazing work.
How can you got onboard that mighty toy man?
Reset CB Op Check Good!!
Standing up unbelted during AR?
onceaslayer is correct. he's under qual eval to become a commander of the c-17. the lt.col. is an instructor pilot qual eval.. the 1st.LT soon to be a capt..
nice video!!♡♡
O ,my God ,is so big ...
only a few seconds ? How much fuel transfered ? Or was this just to Train the procedure ?
What squadron??
Nice approach onto RWY 36. I was a KC-10 Flight Engineer at McGuire 2008-2013.
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One passenger really interested in the pilots; the other interested in selfies. Think that's you Fadi.