Hornady Custom Grade 9mm Die Set-Review and Testing
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- In this video I test and review a Hornady 9mm Custom Grade die set which was sent to me by Hornady for T&E. The video is a fair test and I do my best to show both the good and the bad about this particular die set.
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Just bought this hornady set today based on your video. Thanks.
Thanks for this review. I have been looking at upgrading from the Lee 4 die set I’ve been using for 15 years, and seeing this review has convinced me to give it a shot
Thanks for the review. It is good to see the alternatives out there.
If you are going to get the finest quality dies you can, don't they deserve the finest quality brass? Isn't consistency what we are doing with that brass?
What am I talking about? Case length.
Reply might be "But straight walled pistol brass doesn't grow in length during firing and resizing."
To which I will say "different lots and different manufacturers of brass will have slight differences in length." And lets say the brass does lengthen by one, two or three thou, not much, but actually enough to measure.
Go ahead, measure some of your 9mm brass sometime. The SAAMI tolerance is -0.010 of an inch. A hundreth of an inch! That's not much. And when we add the maybe three thou that the brass can lengthen during firing and resizing and after a few reloadings you now have two hundredth of an inch. Still ain't much.
But put a tapered crimp on that with the less expensive bullets like Berry's or Blue Bullets or Gallant bullets and you can now vary internal firing pressure, remove coatings, lead up a barrel quickly.
How do I know? Been there, done that.
If I was going for absolute bullseye or high-power end loads sure, I’d be using lot-tracked brass with records of number of firings and detailed tracked loading records. For good jacketed projectiles like the RMR 124gr FMJ’s I’m using, mixed brass doesn’t really present an issue, even in the variance between match/stepped chambers, to sloppy military chambers that are designed to feed no matter what. The only issue I’ve run into in the past was variance in case wall thickness, depending on headstamp/manufacturer. At one time I’d tried a boutique sizing die which claimed to eliminate the “waist” typical sizing dies give on 9mm Luger brass due to the slightly tapered design. With thick wall brass it wasn’t an issue, but cheaper, thinner wall brass such as Blazer would have issues with poor neck tension and setback, which quickly lead to me getting rid of that particular die, and using the Redding TiC sizing die for all my 9mm loads. That was really the only issue I’ve encountered.
Good info
I just purchased the same set, without the taper crimp die, by accident. Bummer. I didnt realize there were two of them. I kinda wanted the taper crimp die since I just got a hornady lnl AP press and wanted to run a lockout die.
I’m slightly confused-the crimping function is built into the seating die. Are you referring to the other die set which has a standalone crimping die?
I just picked up the 357 set and the sizer die scratched my new brass horribly. Hope they can make it right.
Little late but this video was great. I've been reloading .38 for over a year and have that down to a science on my lee carbide dies and single stage lee press.
I want to start reloading the 7k 9mm brass I have and was wondering if you had a recommendation for die sets or individual pieces to grab. This video is kind of that, but I wouldn't mind a standalone "intro to 9mm" video. 🙏
An “intro to 9mm” type video wouldn’t be hard at all! (It may be a bit before I get tooled up for it again, but I’d be happy to discuss/do a video on the various setups and such)
What kind of things would you like to see addressed/what questions did you have for the video?
@@thereloadingcraft should I purchase a set of dies or pick three from separate companies. Should I use my single stage press. Starting load data - I base my plated loads off low end jacketed for .38. OAL and it's effect on headspacing and how to find or test for oal.
So those I can answer here pretty easily. At least to get started a set is fine as far as dies go. I like to tinker, and play around with different dies and such, hence why I’ve basically “customized” my setup. As far as press setup, if youve got the patience for it single stage will work just fine and I wouldn’t be concerned there at all. For plated bullets I would look for plated load data, or start with cast lead data and work your way up. I have used jacketed data as well, just keep in mind that plating is fairly thin, and most plated bullet makers will give a max FPS that they recommend it be run below. As far as OAL, with pistols it’s more about reliable feeding and chambering than it is adjusting the OAL closer or further from the rifling to get improved accuracy. My recommendation is dial the OAL for reliability and feeding, and the powder charge for desired performance and accuracy. Also be careful crimping 9mm with plated bullets. Only use enough crimp to remove the expansion flare you put on to seat them, as plated bullets damage easily when over crimped.
Glad to here I just ordered a new set for 357Sig I like Dillon but the want way to much for a set
357 SIG is a fun one! I loaded for it for a couple years myself, as long as you get the neck tension right it’s a rewarding one to load
Don’t you think you can contribute the extra exertion needed for the sizing die is because it goes closer to the bottom of the case then all the others? Or do the Lyman & Redding dies go as far down shell?
Out of all of them, the Redding in my opinion is the superior sizing die by far. Not only does the Redding do a better taper, it uses less force and goes further down the case than the other two.
When I adjust the sizer/decapping die decap rod it can be adjusted so the decapping rod is not in the center of the die. This also happens on my RCBS dies. It's very strange that this is possible. Any ideas on why?
That is strange. Is the rod threaded off-axis or is it something with the lock nut?
Do they work with single-stage press? edit: "and reviewer uses single stage press..."
Yep! 😂 single stage or progressive or anything in between as long as it’s standard thread
When it comes to the Hornady bullet seating/crimping die, is it still possible to seat and crimp in separate stages instead of doing them both at the same time?
It is.
@@thereloadingcraft thanks for the reply! Can you tell me the difference between the 9mm Hornady dies labeled “taper crimp” and the custom grade set that isn’t labeled “taper crimp”? Does the regular set not crimp?