Skills Vs Degree | Very Informative Clash with Azad Chaiwala | Zeeshan Usmani
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- Skills Vs Degree | Very Informative Clash with Azad Chaiwala | Zeeshan Usmani
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Skills Vs Degree | Very Informative Clash with Azad Chaiwala | Zeeshan Usmani
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hr mulk ki koe na koe indentity hoti ha hm pakistan ki identity business ko bnata hain
that make karobari pakistani
Is this possible to get the delivery in India,what ever will be the price...
oy Allah ka naam hy Azad sir kuda ka khoof khaao sirf paisay kamana goal nhe hy zindgi ka jitna me university me seekha itna me nay poray 12 saal ki taleem me nhe seeekha log phlay he kam aqal hn opar say aap in ko distract kar rhy ho bjay is k zayda university banay k ap log katam or bnad karny k chakr me paray ho ap k mulk ki economy sirf education k kam honay ki waja say hy .... pakistan ka 1st issue ======> bacha jhgara shoro krta hy to khty hn shadi krwa do pir saari zindgi wo nalike bachay palany me guzar data hy ,,,,,,,,,,2nd issue =======> Education we need PHDs for relgion debates people still accepting what i have is enough and which is not enough, and they need to understand first they need to give only quality first not quantity everyone is running for quantity which is not your concern demand make its own quantity .... PLZ make more universities that's how our 23 CRORE people will understand that " women is created for men but Men is not only for women" Muzammil Mehmood
*اس ویڈیو کی بہترین بات:*
*بات مکمل سننے کا حوصلہ۔*
*دونوں حضرات نے سوال و جواب اور اگلے بندے کی بات مکمل تحمل اور سکون سے سنی ۔۔*
Muja Azad bhi thory jazbaty lagy
Absolutely agreed
Azaad fully lost after 20:15. He interupted several times to zeeshan ul hassan usmani from that to onward.
Yes noticed.
@@ali_imran19thoray nhi bohat zayada jazbaati
Amazing video. My kids are getting privately education at home. I don't even call it Homeschooling anymore.
And I'm using Zeeshan Usmani's KG and Grade 1 curriculum and waiting for grade 2 book. And I'm also following Azad Bhai's curriculum my kids are learning practical skills like planting and we have hens and goats. So basically its a natural process of learning. Alhumdulillah! May ALLAH swt help all those who are struggling to serve the humanity May ALLAH be pleased with them and ease their all affairs. Ameen sum Ameen!
آپ دونوں نے اختلاف کا طریقہ سکھا دیا
Just zeeshan usmani ny aqal sikha di azaab chai waly ko
Shukar kren azaab ny aqal seekhi sunny ki .warna ye interview mein samny waly ko bolny kab deta hai
محترم ذیشان عثمانی صاحب اور محترم آزاد چائے والا صاحب آج آپ دونوں کی اس ویڈیو سے جو سب سے بڑا سبق میں نے سیکھا وہ اختلاف کرنے کی تمیز اور طریقہ ہے ۔ سلامت رہیں آپ دونوں 😇
My son is in 9th class. He is certified pen tester from Hack the Box. He goes to cyber Security Lab from 9 am to 2 pm. And then go to academy from 4 to 8 pm. He follows skills as principal menu and formal education from academy side by side.
My point of view is formal education/ degree with skills. I think both are important. Formal education provides you platform and improves your personality.
That depends more on the institution the student is going to. Most of the universities in Pakistan don't provide that exposure to the student which can help him in his career growth. Universities like LUMS or NUST are best in this manner that give tremendous exposure and personality growth that can help the student in any field.
And I am delighted to hear that your son is doing a great job at this young age. I wish him the best of luck.
My kids never been to school we are unschooled. he is 8 and has done on pen testing on hack the box he knows python making websites, apps,making games on unity,unreal Engine roblox studio,he is doing great mashallah. He has artificial intelligence , cyber security course .schools are spoiling our kids there's no need to send a child to school now a days
@@educatingthetinyminds7644itne ziyada chizen kese kar leta hai aik sath?
@@taluq-zn read the last line, we are brainwashed to such an extent that we don't even know our capabilities anymore. Creativity, problem solving has been destroyed within us so we must only rely on this system for our survival. Whole society has been trapped(not exagerrating), people who didnt secure good grades or couldn't get a job sre only told that you should have studied more harder, this idea persists in their mind for forever that ratta or lga leta not seeing their actual deficits that they didn't go for learning any skills and it wasn't their fault either bcs this system was designed for them to only think this, only those who had access to internet saw the real world and got themselves out of the mess. These same people then force their children to study harder to have a good job bcs their world is limited to this ratta education only. By the way every company across the world now have believed that people only go to uni to have fun and posses zero skills thats why they ask for 3+ years experience. In short going to uni in this modern age is a slow suicide unless you're studying abroad.
Having spent 7 years studying at university, I agree with Azad Chaiwala. They drag n delay until you start earning.
As far as language is concerned, it is very important to learn languages not only english , we should must familiar with an Arabic language so that we can learn the knowledge of QURAN PAK, HADEETH, and much more
Great❤
Zeeshan Usmani beautifully summed up the importance of degree and education ❤️🌟
degree ka faida ni he bhai
@@adilmalikofficiall jo degree kr nhe skta, wo kehta hy faida nhe hy.
@@adilmalikofficiall chlo tum skill seekhlo. agy tum jis bhi well known company mein jao gy wo tumhari degree dekhe ga lazmi. suppose ke ik company hai us ne 100 people hire karne hain. aur total number of applications 1000 hain toh ab ye mumkin toh nai ke wo 1000 logon ko individually bulwa ke interview lein. toh isliye wo by gpa filter karty hain ke han bhai jinka gpa 3.00 se uper sirf unko hi interview ke liye bulaya jaye ga. ab agar ap ne degree hi nahi ki hui toh ap kaisy job kar sakty ho us company mein. degree + skill is both important.
Two legends, two options but both have strong arguments. Two ways of the same destination. Excellent talk.
More than 4000 PhDs are unemployed in Pakistan. Agreed with Sir Azad .
With due respect to sir Zeeshan opinion.
I really liked it when he said "hum jese logoon ko larte rehna chahiye". Because this was very beneficial conversation.
Practical is important wheather it is degree or skill...
Only by action can anything be achieved...
So just do it........
Wow! Yaar aap nay bohut aagay ki baat ker di....👍
I feel that Dr Zeeshan Usmani is talking about a job ready generation while Azad Chai Wahla is talking about a business ready generation.
Both are integral part of the society. They both agree on beautiful combination of skilled and knowledgeable work force. Legends.
Yes and i think is from my own family experience, i have a elder brother who is phd doc and i am type of person who is more of business type and so im running retail shop.
So every person has its own mindset of earning money so when i heard of these both great people it just reminded me of me and my brother example.
Zeeshan darhee Wala shetan ha . Jis nay Bitcoin ku halal kaha
@@muslim3271 tu ap btae haram kaise hoa 🤔
@@softgamingyt786
Jub aik chiz ka wajod he nahi ha TU phir. Is leye Haram hay or farad bhee.
بہترین پوڈ کاسٹ دونوں نے باکستان کی نوجوانو کیلے بہت کام کیا اللہ انکو مزید طرقی نصیب کرے امین ❤❤
I agree with Zeeshan Usmani, as he is a guy with authentic knowledge, experience and exposure. There is an internee in my team who learned graphic design from Chaiwala institute, He know nothing about design, no idea how to design and what to do. He only knew Photoshop basic skills in 2 months and producing even poor results, we took 6 months teaching him. First Chaiwala should correct the teachings of his institute from where he is earning alot.
You cant quote students performance is a result of some guy who owns the institute, good work that you hired him and gave him an opportunity, but you have to understand that people here generally in Pakistan have this careless attitude, no desire to learn, look for shortcuts, etc, you cant change this attitude easily specially his courses are like 2 months and 1 month usually...
@@Shreaadedaa i am not just talking about 1 student, i have met multiple as I am a senior creative director and i go through interviews every month... 1 or 2 students can never be an example but 5 - 10 make a group and when they are below average, the institute is at fault. of course the owner is responsible for the Quality of Education provided
That's what called, productive conversation.
The reason you didn't argue and tried to find common grounds to respectfully end conversation , is the beauty of being literate and educated. And exactly why we need education!
In nutshell - it's a debate between being street smart vs book smart. Both have their own advantages in their own realms.
میرے دو بچے ہیں 1st اور 7th , ایک کے بستے کا وزن 6 کلو تھا، اور کلاس ون کے بستے کا وزن 4 کلو تھا۔
Tha sa kia matlab
The difference between education and no education is visible in this video. Zeeshan Usmani is a legend.
If only you were not so close minded, you could have seen his side of view which is undebatably very practical.
Critical & brilliant discourse. Degree + skill = Massive success
I think they both are part of a spectrum , just part of the listeners were confused but after this podcast almost its clear...we want our youth to be on the right path of prosperity ultimately our country's success..I am following both(patriots) for a long time and i love them for their love dedication and passion hard work ❤
Lastly i thank both and pray for their health and highest ranks in Akirat
Dr Imran Asif
Kotli AJK
Kis cheez ke doctor he aap 😅
17:52
Human.... Radiologist
i appriciate the valuable person like ZESHAN USMANI that are doing for our next generation plz do effort and make a whole curriculum that should fully clean from Pakistani worst and unproductive, time wasting
I did also BSc engineering but I am not happy for this because now after getting 16 years of education now I have no job and no skill when I go for job in any institution they ask about skill but I have no skill from this curriculam
ماشاءاللہ دونوں ھی پاکستان کا سرمایہ ھیں
Yeh bohot acha aur informative discussion hai. Skills aur degree ke beech ka yeh contrast waqai sochne pe majboor karta hai. Aaj ke dor mein skills ka hona zyada zaroori hai, lekin degree bhi apni jagah zaroori hai, khaaskar kuch specific fields mein. Azad Chaiwala aur Zeeshan Usmani ka yeh discussion mujhe bohot kuch sikhane wala lag raha hai. Shukriya iss behtareen content ke liye!
These things need to be fixed/correct in Pakistan's education system
1. curriculam
2. dress
3. language
4. building infrastructure
5. teachers qualification
6. parents attention
7. student interest (don't do like this "It was my grandfather's or my grandmother wish that I become an engineer, become a doctor")
8. timetable
Nothing will be fixed here.
I am an IT Professional...It is Impossible to design I.T curriculum unless we categorise degrees in specialisation.Divide course Theoretical and Practical and design in a way at least 40 percent is practical knowledge.Give assignments related to that and conduct quizzes based on your own assignments not on taught theory.
I thought IT is mostly theory@@thehussansiddiqui
The debate I had been waiting for a long time. Both Gentlemen proved their point without quarrel. Couldn't get any better than this. Looking forward to more.
great said
Dr sahab has became a wise man after education.
But not after ratta
Degree aqalmand nhi bnati...
Education boht logun k pass hy laiken 1% b wise nae hain jb k kuch un parh log b wise hotay hain.
@ibraheemq7859 yes, for sure.
@batoolshah7240 it depends on how you pursue your degree.
ہمارے اساتذہ ریسرچ کیلئے نہیں PhD اسلئے کرتے ہیں کہ اچھی نوکری ملے گی۔ لیکن آجکل پاکستان کی ٹاپ یونیورسٹی کے پروفیسر سے skill والا بچہ گھر بیٹھے آنلائن زیادہ کماتا ہے۔
hence proved that literacy is important. Azad chaiwala is on the top level of illiteracy even don't know the way of formal communication.
😂
Really sad thats what you got from this beautiful conversation.
If you got of your high horse, you will see how many useful and practical points he said.
The best Crossover of our country's scape.
بہترین ملاقات لوگوں کو سیکھانے والے دو سپر مینز
دونوں کو آللہ جزا عطا فرمائے۔
Very good conversation. Thanks
UNSTOPPABLE FORCE MEETS THE IMMOVABLE OBJECT.
What a caption
Perfectly described
ماشاءاللہ ، بہت معلوماتی ویڈیو، اختلاف کا مثبت انداز بیان کیا گیا ہے ، اللہ تعالیٰ دونوں کو ترقی دے اور مزید مخلوقِ خدا کی خدمت پر استقامت دے ، آمین
Zeeshan Usmani is a clever guy - He should be a lawyer :D
Apart from the outsatnding msg the good thing is that there are no ads.
So listen without any disturbance.
I respect both of these legends
Actually these are our Heroes.
G haan ye dono shakhsiyat hamare asal heroes hen jinka kaam nazar araha hai k ye log achha kaam krahe hen inhone is generation ko ek naye soch de hai ek vision diya hai i salute both of these.
Warna pichle 76 saal se hamari Qoam sirf naare maar rahi thi.
Allah t’aala in dono ko ajre azeem ata farmaye ameen.
جزاكم الله خيرا ،
على هذه اقتراحات.
بارك الله فيكم
This was something jiskay liye I waited 3 years. YOU BOTH ARE LEGENDS
Great Conversation to Enhance Emerging Students of Pakistan. Really Appreciative and momentous step to elevate surging students and youngsters.
Education is crucial
Skills is necessary
both should be learn
یہی لوگ ہیں ایماندار مخلص سننے والے❤
Fruitful but short discussion. Looking forward to see you both again with more guidance for Pakistani youth.
An immensely needed podcast .. Quality & constructive content Ma Sha Allah
Very informative discussion.
Highly insightful discussion. Two legends in one picture. Highly Appreciated
Bhot zabardast muqabla raha Sir, next time boxing match bhe hona chahye.
Very Clear vision 👌
May Allah bless both always.
Gentlemen, thoughtful and future enlightened.
Serving the nation
But Zeeshan bhai and Azad bhai every developed nation developed its own language education system, you can which is a plus point mot necessary and, I appreciate the efforts of Zeeshan Bhai who translates the world's best curriculum in Urdu.
Very interesting and informative disscussion. I really enjoyed it. Thanks
Bohat acha program. Really appreciated ❤
Wonderful indeed...!
Excellent ma Sha Allah!!!!
Excellent conversation 👍
ماشاء اللہ دو بڑی شخصیت ایک ساتھ ❤❤❤بہت ہی کام کی باتیں اللہ پاک آسانی بانٹنے والوں کے لیے بھی آسانی فرمائیے. اللہُ پاک میری نی نسل عقل اور ہمت عط فرمایاے کہ آپ کی باتیں انھیں آسانی سے سمجھ آ جانیں آمین ثم آمین
Needed this 20 years ago..
very nice and informative discussion, thanks both.
Yaar kiya debate he. Zabardast yaar. ❤
Precious opinions and efforts by both gems
May Allah Bless u guys and help all Muslims.
Ameeeen
دونوں کی بات صحیح ہے جس کا دل پڑھائی میں لگتا ہے وہ پڑھائی کرے اور جس کا دل کا م کی طرف ہے وہ کام کرے
They both are correct 💯. Aim same ha dono ka k pasy ksy kmaye jaye lkn tareeka different. Dono k life ko ly k alag alag experience ha. Both are highly professionals no doubt in it. But life me hr koi ak tareeky se successful naiii hota ksi k hardwork and luck ak trh se faida dti ha or dosra same method se faik hota ha. So its life try both things in order to live in Pakistan. Its my opinion.
My view is to learn skill and start business it's Sunnah
Exactly
"ASSALAMO ALAIKOM".
"JAZA KALLAH" Ustaad e Muhtaram for this video and for the part two of Justuju ka Safar. I have ordered one and cannot wait to read.
JazakAllah sir
Awesome talk
Very informative
Zeeshan bhai love from Hyderabad Sindh Pakistan.
Zeeshan sir very nice podcast with azad bhai. ❤❤❤❤
Look people this is how you talk about difference of opinion 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 hats off to you both..... Proud of you both Alhamdolilah Pakistan has gems like you both
Fruitful discussion ❤
G Sir Allah bless you May you live long Ameen 🕋🕌💫🌺🕋🤲 Jazak Allah khair 💫 InShaAllah 💫
Jazakallah khair Zabr10 guftugu
میں لاہور میں ایک جگہ سے لیزر شعاؤں کے ذریعے پتھری کا علاج کروا رہا ہوں بعض دفعہ ڈاکٹر تاخیر سے آتا ہے تو میرا لیتھوٹریپسی والا علاج آفس بوائے بغیر ڈگری کے اپنے 15 سالہ تجربے کی وجہ سے شروع کردیتا ہے۔
پاکستان میں ڈاکٹری کرنے کے لیے ہماری اردو زبان پر اگر پڑھایا جائے تو کسی کا دماغ خراب ہے کہ وہ ڈاکٹر نہ بن سکے۔۔!
چائنہ میں اپنی زبان میں سب کچھ ممکن ہے تو وہ دنیا کو ٹکر دے سکتا ہے تو ہم کیوں کسی زبان میں اپنی نسل برباد کررہے ہیں۔
Lakin wo larka kisi jahal se seekh kay nahi ker raha apka ilaaj. Aur wo har tarhan ki situation ko handle kerny ka knowledge nahi rakhta jo aik foctor rakhta. Ilzaam doctot kay ghaflat waly rawaiye ko dain na kay degree ko
Brother google this medicine this will solve the issue. Chanca Piedra Stone Breaker - Natural Dissolver, Kidney Cleanse & Gallbladder Supplement - Detoxify Urinary Tract, Flush Impurities, Clear System - 60 Vegan Soft Capsules
ہمارے ہاں 90 فی صد دانتوں کا کام کرنے والے ان پڑھ ہیں اور سیکھے ہوئے ہیں۔
Yaha corruption Jo hay bhai. Saray idaro me to chor daku mafia birajuman he. Yaha Kuch ni hosakta.
@@user-vp4ix6ff3bمیرا چھوٹا بھائی مجھ سے زیادہ کمپیوٹر جانتا ہے لیکن اُس کے پاس ڈگری نہیں اور میرے پاس ڈگری ہے
باقی رہ گئی بات نالج کی تو میری جان اُس ڈاکر کے پاس بھی ہر چیز کا نالج نہیں ہوگا وہ صرف پتھری کا ڈاکٹر ہوگا اور جو وہ کمپوڈر ہے پندرہ سال کے تجربے سے وہ ڈاکٹر جتنا ہی جانتا ہوگا۔
جزاکم اللہ خیرا
So proud when I first started seeing this man videos his subscribers were 250k and now it's 3.2 million. Hats off
Wonderful Conversation❤
what I understand if you want to work in big organization, then you need degree, And if you want to create your own business, they you need to skills and become freelaner.
زیشان عثمانی
آزاد چائے والا
عدیل امتیاز (تختی آن لائن)
are Great for Pakistan
Jazakallah Sir ❤️ 🌹
Zeeshan bhai demonstrates a greater level of maturity and sensibility, approaching situations from a broader perspective. While Azad bhai is also correct, but his viewpoint tends to be narrower, overlooking individual needs.
Great observation
Very Intellectual person Sir zeeshan is❤
Azad is confusing, perplexed. He might be true in his mind but is not able to communicate his message to public clearly which makes controversies around him.
Dr. Zeeshan Sahab is respectable and true inspiration for me.
Now I clearly understand point of Azad bhai. great vision! Masha' Allah
Masha Allah It's very productive Discussion.
Very good discussion. Our whole education system is meant to make you servant and hence job search is initiated once degree target is achieved. The real need is how to start your own business and how to provide job to other people. Any person even at CEO level should and must think that S/he is working in a business started by someone else. Yes, education to some extent is necessary to understand maths, communication skills, religious and ethical knowledge.
Allah kare Azad bhai apni Baat par kaim rahe
Ameen
Thank you Dr. Usman for emphasizing that obtaining skill-based degrees from academic institutions is critical. Azad Bhai, when we need medical care, we seek specialized doctors, so why is it surprising or uncomfortable to call PhD holders 'doctors'? Shouldn't we recognize their expertise in their fields just as we do with medical professionals? However, I am against giving an "honored PhD degree" it's so hard to get that.
Zeeshan Usmani argument is intellectual.
اللہ تعالیٰ آپ کو خوش وخرم اور آباد رکھے
Behtreen Video, Thank you so much Zeeshan Bhai for the great content.
The difference in class, grace, eloquence is apparent.
Sir, I cannot express my gratitude to both of you legends. Thank you for this great session.
The world would have been a better place if all the debates were like this: calm and respectful.
اللہ آپ دونوں سے راضی ہوں۔۔۔۔
ماشاء اللہ بہت اچھی پوڈ کاسٹ ہے ۔
Looking forward to that school in'sha'Allah. May Allah SWT give you success in both the worlds
Aameen.
So good to see you together ❤❤
The most important video is about the young generation.
Two of my favorites in one frame ❤
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Really like their sincerity to the youth of Pakistan.