best tip i had to learn as a newer player who is now finally pvm’ing hard bosses, it seems like most of RS3 community makes PVM harder than it actually is. the hardest part about any boss is learning not to panic (could take a few hours but it’s not that bad). don’t let anyone tell you, you can’t PVM with revolution on, as a newer player that’s the biggest pile of BS i’ve heard. i’ve watched people pvm hard bosses with revo on and that encouraged me to keep going to see if i really can pvm with it on and trust me you can. (90% of the time i’m pressing my abilities anyways and 10% of the time revo does my abilities when i might be overwhelmed). And lastly do not be overwhelmed by people’s action bars, you’ll slowly build a set that makes sense for you and you’ll eventually feel like you need more bars honestly. For example all the abilities i actually use i keep them toward the top, my defenses are sandwiched in the middle and my switches are towards the bottom of my setup. and to be more in-depth i have heals on the left and my thresholds and ults to the right. (also having an MMO mouse makes PVM MUCH EASIER mentally and more fun) oh yea and don’t be afraid or ashamed to die, it will happen. and experiment and look at every move it might help you in some way to make kill times faster. this is just my perspective from a newer player who’s just learned how to beat and deal with hard bosses. i don’t claim to be any type of pro or anything just a guy giving some advice/insight
I pvm with revo, and I do fine with it. My kills aren’t going to be efficient but abilties being used automatically helps so much, since it’s kinda one less thing you have to worry about when you’re making sure to prayer flick or anything else and it helps lowers the pressure learning new bosses. As long as I can kill bosses at my pace comfortably
@@Verniou exactly as long as you can kill the bosses in a timely manner while staying at your own pace is the goal. i feel like too many people worry about being “competitive” with their kills
So much true in your statement, i use the revo to and i do hm kera, zamorak and glacor enrage mode (have +1000 enrage with streaking) without any problem. The difference of using full manual vs revo is the full control of your attacks but with a good order the gap its not that big
I went from not bossing to bossing every other day, basically. Been Practicing zuk for a week. Died many times. Didn't think I could do a deathless run. After trying and trying, I got my deathless run .x3 then went for unlocking hm. Spent another 3 hours trying to theory my own way to get the challenges done for the dps. Bossing is 50% not panicking. As soon as that happens, it's gg. An upgraded infernal puzzle box has been super helpful since it stops adrenaline depletion.
Am in same boat got my 3 capes after weeks of trying all came down to using a ripper and elder pot, hm though seems a different kettle of fish especially dps checks I think I need gchain or something along those lines
Ive been trying to do Suk almost daily since it came out. It takes three tries to get the 50k damage to be able to get to the circle part where I cant kill them in time and Im dead. One would expect a maxed 20 + year player to be able to do better.
Telos is the bane of my existence. Never had a streak go more than a couple kills without dying and I still don't know what exactly it is that I have a problem with.
I was super disillusioned with thinking you were going to be able to provide something that actually helped with the key-binds, as knowledgeable as you are I thought there wasn't much to be done. That mouse tip is mind-blowing and I can't believe I hadn't thought of that lmao. Fantastic stuff man, I'm glad to be wrong. What a video
I've only just started the video, but yeah, as someone who's been playing rs on and off since the early 2000s, only really using revo after eoc, but mostly playing other mmos, the number of keybinds you actually need for this game is insane, I thought the button bloat in FF14 was pushing the limits, but this...And I mean, unlike ff14 I don't know that there's really a way to address it in RS3 without really cutting into skill expression in a harmful way. It's huge challenge to adjust to from other mmos, but I've been having such a blast with necro that I'm finally working on making the swap to (at least mostly) manual, and that comes with trying to figure out my binds 😅
One of the buttons on my mouse as the alt and shift key and my main key pressing hand is my left hand that i cycle through combat basics/ thresholds and then same thing with defensive using the shift or alt key on my mouse
dive is amazing for positioning. rather than running/ walking to a spot for a positioning mechanic, dive instead and its much safer and u will land at your destination without worrying about the path your charecter takes
Omg okay!!! So I use every letter and every key as well as 3/4’s of the keyboard with shift and most letters / ALT and most letters. But I never thought of SHIFT and the numbered buttons on my mouse!!!!
11:35 You will also drop your defence level, which will cause you to take MORE damage. Then, if that is your habit, you will continue chugging brews as the situation snowballs.
Actually, saradomin brews buff 4 defense. That buff will not count if you're on overload, cause overload buff more than 4 defense, but also you will not receive more damage for using it. The main problem in that case is really the damage decrease.
Oh, my bad... I never pay attention to the stat changes, I'm just aware that there are negative ones. However, if you are using any healing based off damage output, then it will still snowball to a lesser degree.
My issue is ability rotations I don’t know a good dps rotation and playing manual is nearly impossible for me as it feels both my hands work against me if I try
Keybinds wouldn't be nearly as big of an issue if Jagex would simply allow us to use the Numpad keys like every other MMO on the planet. Right now if you try to use "Num1" it comes through as "1". Same as the top row numbers. Such an unnecessary limitation for a game that has so much shit going on.
I like my G604 mouse, but it only has 6 thumb buttons. However, I took the tradeoff in exchange for a wireless mouse while sticking to my brand loyalty.
The thing that got me into pvm defenitley was, when I realized how abilities work together. I think this is the most important thing to overcome any issue one might have with pvm. Look, a lot of people do have strong equipment before they even know, whats the real benefit or feature of a specific set. But runescape pvm is NOT about good equipment, yes , good gear can compensate bad skill, but this alone never will get you to any Point of meaning or joy. I think it is about how much you know about phases, how you Deal with certain mechanics and how you can get synergies out of Equipment/perks/relics/spells/abilities. Knowing your abilities also brings a benefit on how manual you play. The more you know, the more you want to click your abilities on your own. I am convinced, that everyone with low -med equipment that has those types of experiences and knowldege, and really got used to explore it, can do a LOT more in pvm than anyone who does have barley nothing other😂than equipment. The only thing you need beside of all of this are quests. Srsly, quests DO mather.
I’m still struggling doing almost any boss above gw1 🤦♂️ and im close to getting max cape… I get confused with the abilities alone, not even those keybinds included😓 i see many videos on what abilitie bar to use and stuff… but i think people have to use them in specific orders to make them useful, because if i try those abilities i feel like doing almost no damage ( i barely survive a gw2 boss with a ripper demon or full inv of food with pack yak ) And i have troubles with how to get into all those perks ( invention and archeology ) most of the times i dont want to bother with it because i dont have the amount of money to get good perks OR i dont have many of the invention parts to make any decent perk at all
I use it too ^_^ I also use the Razer Tartarus Pro which isn't probably that popular, but I used it in WoW and it made me a lot better, so I have tried to adapt it to Runescape. Does anyone else use one?
I've been using Logitech G600 Mouse for the last 3 yrs. I started on OSRS and sucked with action bars once it switched to rs3 due to a ring finger injury. I can program at least 4 to 5 full actions bars with keybinds around regular numbers, shift, ctrl, and alt. With just one button and a click on the mouse. I was looking at razer but it didn't look like it was going to be much help for me. I don't think you would look at a different mouse ever again once you get one. It's less than $35 and does more than the most expensive mouses does with RGB lighting the syncs with my keyboard.
@bigdad4521 honestly I'll probably go with that one over my Naga when it craps out on me because they have a history of getting a double click issue (which I've had one already do to me and is happening from time to time now). Seems like those G600 lasts forever!
one thing i struggle with is my layout/ui i have a very basic ui with only 1 bar maybe 2 i would really like to set up my ui somewhat like how you have and learn manual but i have no clue were to start, also i kinda quit my main and now main a iron and havnt done much bossing be4 so its a bit harder to get into since i cant just buy gear
the amount of abilities and ability bars has kept me from bossing since the introduction of RS3. Always been a legacy player and probably always will be. Have all abilities unlocked, but I don't use any of them. I will just stick to slayer IF I want to pvm.. I have zero desire to learn how to prayer flick and use 300 abilities fighting a boss.. I am basically all 120 skills already and money is useless at this point.
See the issue you have is an issue many have at first being overwhelmed. I started with one bar and to this day use revolution. And slowly added things as I needed them. Or things I wanted to practice like keybinds. Funny because osrs uses prayer flicking way harder than rs3 also realistically you don't even use more than 10 abilities at a boss unless your doing some super fancy shit If you dont want to learn that's on you though jagex can only have so much fault
Or be like me and don’t use keybinds for your abilities and just click them all. Only stuff I have keybind is food, prayer restore, pray flicking, and vulnbombs. Yes I do Top High-end bossing with no problem. Been doing this way since EOC was release in 2013. Edit: if I did use keybinds for my ability it would handicap me and I wouldn’t be able to do high enr zam, duo/solo Vorago, aod, solo solak, and all those top end bosses.
Am I the only one who feels like RuneScape is unresponsive? Like the delay from pushing button and animations and damage. Just all around feels bad compared to WoW
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best tip i had to learn as a newer player who is now finally pvm’ing hard bosses, it seems like most of RS3 community makes PVM harder than it actually is. the hardest part about any boss is learning not to panic (could take a few hours but it’s not that bad). don’t let anyone tell you, you can’t PVM with revolution on, as a newer player that’s the biggest pile of BS i’ve heard. i’ve watched people pvm hard bosses with revo on and that encouraged me to keep going to see if i really can pvm with it on and trust me you can. (90% of the time i’m pressing my abilities anyways and 10% of the time revo does my abilities when i might be overwhelmed). And lastly do not be overwhelmed by people’s action bars, you’ll slowly build a set that makes sense for you and you’ll eventually feel like you need more bars honestly. For example all the abilities i actually use i keep them toward the top, my defenses are sandwiched in the middle and my switches are towards the bottom of my setup. and to be more in-depth i have heals on the left and my thresholds and ults to the right. (also having an MMO mouse makes PVM MUCH EASIER mentally and more fun) oh yea and don’t be afraid or ashamed to die, it will happen. and experiment and look at every move it might help you in some way to make kill times faster. this is just my perspective from a newer player who’s just learned how to beat and deal with hard bosses. i don’t claim to be any type of pro or anything just a guy giving some advice/insight
I pvm with revo, and I do fine with it. My kills aren’t going to be efficient but abilties being used automatically helps so much, since it’s kinda one less thing you have to worry about when you’re making sure to prayer flick or anything else and it helps lowers the pressure learning new bosses. As long as I can kill bosses at my pace comfortably
@@Verniou exactly as long as you can kill the bosses in a timely manner while staying at your own pace is the goal. i feel like too many people worry about being “competitive” with their kills
So much true in your statement, i use the revo to and i do hm kera, zamorak and glacor enrage mode (have +1000 enrage with streaking) without any problem. The difference of using full manual vs revo is the full control of your attacks but with a good order the gap its not that big
That's it bro!
I went from not bossing to bossing every other day, basically. Been Practicing zuk for a week. Died many times. Didn't think I could do a deathless run. After trying and trying, I got my deathless run .x3 then went for unlocking hm. Spent another 3 hours trying to theory my own way to get the challenges done for the dps. Bossing is 50% not panicking. As soon as that happens, it's gg. An upgraded infernal puzzle box has been super helpful since it stops adrenaline depletion.
Am in same boat got my 3 capes after weeks of trying all came down to using a ripper and elder pot, hm though seems a different kettle of fish especially dps checks I think I need gchain or something along those lines
@@lewisrs3 yeah def need gchain. HM is a different beast from NM. First challenge and the waves are much tougher
@bradyjohnson1578 going take mw awhile save for that it's like 700m 😅
Ive spent my week the same way! Such a feeling of accomplishment when I finally got that damn kill though!
Ive been trying to do Suk almost daily since it came out. It takes three tries to get the 50k damage to be able to get to the circle part where I cant kill them in time and Im dead. One would expect a maxed 20 + year player to be able to do better.
Telos is the bane of my existence. Never had a streak go more than a couple kills without dying and I still don't know what exactly it is that I have a problem with.
With Kerapacs lightning I just get in front of where 2 intersect and dive through it then Combust and Dragon Breath.
I was super disillusioned with thinking you were going to be able to provide something that actually helped with the key-binds, as knowledgeable as you are I thought there wasn't much to be done. That mouse tip is mind-blowing and I can't believe I hadn't thought of that lmao. Fantastic stuff man, I'm glad to be wrong. What a video
I've only just started the video, but yeah, as someone who's been playing rs on and off since the early 2000s, only really using revo after eoc, but mostly playing other mmos, the number of keybinds you actually need for this game is insane, I thought the button bloat in FF14 was pushing the limits, but this...And I mean, unlike ff14 I don't know that there's really a way to address it in RS3 without really cutting into skill expression in a harmful way. It's huge challenge to adjust to from other mmos, but I've been having such a blast with necro that I'm finally working on making the swap to (at least mostly) manual, and that comes with trying to figure out my binds 😅
One of the buttons on my mouse as the alt and shift key and my main key pressing hand is my left hand that i cycle through combat basics/ thresholds and then same thing with defensive using the shift or alt key on my mouse
dive is amazing for positioning. rather than running/ walking to a spot for a positioning mechanic, dive instead and its much safer and u will land at your destination without worrying about the path your charecter takes
Underrated
Helpful like always. Thanks
Omg okay!!! So I use every letter and every key as well as 3/4’s of the keyboard with shift and most letters / ALT and most letters. But I never thought of SHIFT and the numbered buttons on my mouse!!!!
Razer Naga Trinity is what I use
Definitely would love a pt 2!
11:35 You will also drop your defence level, which will cause you to take MORE damage. Then, if that is your habit, you will continue chugging brews as the situation snowballs.
Actually, saradomin brews buff 4 defense. That buff will not count if you're on overload, cause overload buff more than 4 defense, but also you will not receive more damage for using it.
The main problem in that case is really the damage decrease.
Oh, my bad... I never pay attention to the stat changes, I'm just aware that there are negative ones. However, if you are using any healing based off damage output, then it will still snowball to a lesser degree.
Is food and prayer a good idea to have on say shift and ctrl? like food as shift f res on ctrl r ss on shift s that sort of idea
My issue is ability rotations I don’t know a good dps rotation and playing manual is nearly impossible for me as it feels both my hands work against me if I try
Biggest tip is just dont use brews, blubbers are fine in every situation
Keybinds wouldn't be nearly as big of an issue if Jagex would simply allow us to use the Numpad keys like every other MMO on the planet. Right now if you try to use "Num1" it comes through as "1". Same as the top row numbers. Such an unnecessary limitation for a game that has so much shit going on.
I like my G604 mouse, but it only has 6 thumb buttons. However, I took the tradeoff in exchange for a wireless mouse while sticking to my brand loyalty.
The thing that got me into pvm defenitley was, when I realized how abilities work together. I think this is the most important thing to overcome any issue one might have with pvm. Look, a lot of people do have strong equipment before they even know, whats the real benefit or feature of a specific set. But runescape pvm is NOT about good equipment, yes , good gear can compensate bad skill, but this alone never will get you to any Point of meaning or joy. I think it is about how much you know about phases, how you Deal with certain mechanics and how you can get synergies out of Equipment/perks/relics/spells/abilities. Knowing your abilities also brings a benefit on how manual you play. The more you know, the more you want to click your abilities on your own. I am convinced, that everyone with low -med equipment that has those types of experiences and knowldege, and really got used to explore it, can do a LOT more in pvm than anyone who does have barley nothing other😂than equipment. The only thing you need beside of all of this are quests. Srsly, quests DO mather.
I’m still struggling doing almost any boss above gw1 🤦♂️ and im close to getting max cape…
I get confused with the abilities alone, not even those keybinds included😓
i see many videos on what abilitie bar to use and stuff… but i think people have to use them in specific orders to make them useful, because if i try those abilities i feel like doing almost no damage ( i barely survive a gw2 boss with a ripper demon or full inv of food with pack yak )
And i have troubles with how to get into all those perks ( invention and archeology ) most of the times i dont want to bother with it because i dont have the amount of money to get good perks OR i dont have many of the invention parts to make any decent perk at all
I use it too ^_^ I also use the Razer Tartarus Pro which isn't probably that popular, but I used it in WoW and it made me a lot better, so I have tried to adapt it to Runescape. Does anyone else use one?
I've been using Logitech G600 Mouse for the last 3 yrs. I started on OSRS and sucked with action bars once it switched to rs3 due to a ring finger injury. I can program at least 4 to 5 full actions bars with keybinds around regular numbers, shift, ctrl, and alt. With just one button and a click on the mouse. I was looking at razer but it didn't look like it was going to be much help for me. I don't think you would look at a different mouse ever again once you get one. It's less than $35 and does more than the most expensive mouses does with RGB lighting the syncs with my keyboard.
@bigdad4521 honestly I'll probably go with that one over my Naga when it craps out on me because they have a history of getting a double click issue (which I've had one already do to me and is happening from time to time now). Seems like those G600 lasts forever!
Also didn't know about the Sword of Edicts buff 😅 the more ya know
There isn’t a buff
one thing i struggle with is my layout/ui i have a very basic ui with only 1 bar maybe 2 i would really like to set up my ui somewhat like how you have and learn manual but i have no clue were to start, also i kinda quit my main and now main a iron and havnt done much bossing be4 so its a bit harder to get into since i cant just buy gear
stick to revo. you can still dps and manual while on revolution. if anyone tells you, you can’t pvm with revolution they’re BS’ing HARD.
@@BlackWeeebyou really can't pvm with revo++ but revo is alright
the amount of abilities and ability bars has kept me from bossing since the introduction of RS3. Always been a legacy player and probably always will be. Have all abilities unlocked, but I don't use any of them. I will just stick to slayer IF I want to pvm.. I have zero desire to learn how to prayer flick and use 300 abilities fighting a boss.. I am basically all 120 skills already and money is useless at this point.
See the issue you have is an issue many have at first being overwhelmed. I started with one bar and to this day use revolution. And slowly added things as I needed them. Or things I wanted to practice like keybinds.
Funny because osrs uses prayer flicking way harder than rs3 also realistically you don't even use more than 10 abilities at a boss unless your doing some super fancy shit
If you dont want to learn that's on you though jagex can only have so much fault
Please do a PT 2
Or be like me and don’t use keybinds for your abilities and just click them all. Only stuff I have keybind is food, prayer restore, pray flicking, and vulnbombs. Yes I do Top High-end bossing with no problem. Been doing this way since EOC was release in 2013.
Edit: if I did use keybinds for my ability it would handicap me and I wouldn’t be able to do high enr zam, duo/solo Vorago, aod, solo solak, and all those top end bosses.
finding someone to help you on a boss is kind of hard
👍
And here I am chucking my adren into natural instinct just to get 38% off a basic crit 😂
Worth it though, ngl 🌛
Am I the only one who feels like RuneScape is unresponsive? Like the delay from pushing button and animations and damage. Just all around feels bad compared to WoW