Wade, great review! You’re detail had helped me tremendously settle on the right kayak for me. I don’t paddle in your part of the country but 1 day we will find ourselves on the same stretch. Keep up the great reviews.
This made me very excited to try mine out this weekend! Thanks for the great review as always! Also, my thigh braces are much sturdier vs the calleva demo boat. Probably just an issue with the very first boats.
Yes it was i actually know another guy that got one and I seen it yesterday and looked at it and his was rock solid so I did mention that it was a early demo version thanks for the feedback John
Sorry to keep firing the questions, but wondering about how the goat compares to the Billy goat (I have a BG that I'm selling) I'd really like a river runner that surfs well, and ideally with a less catchy tail than the BG, and the ability to pivot a bit more , but keeping the speed & skipping I was going to get a rewind, but none available for months. The other boat available is a scorch, which is pretty different but might also fit the bill? I like the width of the BG
I guess what I'm asking is goat or scorch M ?(both are available) 150 lb, paddling G2/3/4 high and low volume, I want a boat that surfs well, & is fast around the river, with good primary and secondary stability. Less bothered about getting vertical I have a machno for steeper/ harder stuff
Look at the new ripper 2 I don’t know your stats but the ripper 2 has been amazing at a HalfSlice and I’m big fan of the scorch as a creeker but your not pivoting that one
At 5:08 you rate its speed relative to other boats. At the end I hear you say "Chili's faster tan all of them by the way." Chili? did I hear you right?
I think you were spot on Wade. Got my new boat out yesterday and it was awesome surfing, river running, and the BOOFS!! It was a little harder to squirt than I expected especially because I am 190 lbs (partly the width of the stern I think compared to say a Rewind) but all around the boat is a performance machine and super comfortable. Also I have the black color and my thigh braces are much more rigid than yours on that demo as you said. So psyched with the boat overall and thanks for the reviews as always! Would love to hear your thoughts on a comparison with the Rewind given the very similar specs if you get a chance.
Glad I was on par with you on the review thanks for the feedback I appreciate that and I was was surprised also like you that it was actually really difficult to get the tail down I have a decent stern stall and this boat was very difficult to get vert but dam the river running was next level
I’m around 190 and thinking about picking up a used Goat. Looking for a fun surfing river runner for class III-IV mostly. Are you still liking yours? -thanks
Yeah I still love mine. Most comfortable boat I have ever had and it is a nice middle ground boat that surfs and squirts but is really good for running rivers. I’d say it would be great for what you want it for which is a fun river runner that surfs. Definitely try one out as it is a different boat depending on your weight but at ~200lbs I really enjoy it.
@@davids6652I've just Pulle the trigger on one and I've demoed it multiple Times over the last half year. With some technique you are surely gonna be able to get it up (I can whip it around decently easy with the seat back one at 150 pounds)
Rewind is more balanced play and down river this one is better river running but I recommend the rewind over the goat there’s a reason why it’s so hard to find a rewind right now everyone wants one after paddling it
@@WadeHarrison thanks wade... Yeah exactly... i would wait for rewind for a year... yet waka is available almost imediately... and the price is higher f9r rewind.... huh I have an axiom... im more dagger fan
Hey Wade! Love your reviews mate! I’m tossing up between a rewind and a goat as a boat to paddle everything on! Paddling lots of grade 3+/4 and wanting a boat that is going to challenge me and push me to improve my technical paddling! Love a bit of play but also looking at getting a dedicated playful half slice down the line… Im 5’7 and 72kgs without gear! Would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks 😊
Hey, I'm in pretty much the same position in therms of 3+/4 water and wanting to challenge my paddling. 85kg and 6'2". And I have a banged up Antixs 1 that I love for playing. I don't paddle big volume, tight scrappy creeks is what I've got. Would you be suggesting the Rewind over the Goat?
Hey Wade, thank you for the reviews. I’m wanting to get into kayaking and your videos have definitely helped me in my research. What would you recommend for a beginner like me @ 5’6” and 170lbs?
just starting out and at what you told me your stats are med dagger kayaks code first jackson Z3 M pyranha machno M if there's something you're looking at let me know maybe can help more
Looks like an amazing down river boat! Fast, carves, surfs...the fact it doesn't look like a person could throw the bow in the air kinda defeats the whole point of a half slice though. Thought the 🌶 was it, then I put my hopes on waka, now I'm happy I ordered a new ripper.
Yeah I was surprised they went after the downriver style you have to work really hard and have. Perfect spot to get this one vert even the guy that was in the green steeze tried it out and he is 200lb and has a powerful stern stall and he struggled
The ophion was my buddy’s demo paddle he is distributing them here in the USA i gave that one back I was just giving him my thoughts on it I have few paddles the one in this video is my favorite play down River paddle the AT super light
Awesome review. I have just bought a goat and I love it! I’ve not had any problems with it going vertical on me without my wanting it too but I’m still a bit nervous to take it on higher volume or steeper runs with higher consequences of getting it wrong. In you opinion how is the boat likely to react?
The Flex OMG yes it was brutal I almost fail out the boat On a splat they were so flexing but this was a very early production and WAKA has fixed it from what I seen in my buddy's Goat
We are almost the same size i think in the long run you will like the medium ripper better then this because it’s a smaller style boat but does not splat and stren squirt surf as easy
@@WadeHarrison right on cheers bud, I think the one thing that has me hesitant about the ripper is it's only a gallon more in volume than my necky jive. I have paddled it before and had a great time whereas I haven't paddled a goat yet.
I wish i could see your review on exo rexy. I know that there is like none of them in the us, smh. I bought rexy and would be great for me to see the comparison.
Full out river running the shit and decent surfing but hard stern squirts-Goat, river running and speed with some play-ripper, a good mix of play and river running-rewind (best all around), full play with decent river running and slowest-antix 2.0..just my opinion
A little late to the party, but I just got mine and I flippin love it!!!!
🔥🐐🥰
Its a great boat
Wade, great review! You’re detail had helped me tremendously settle on the right kayak for me. I don’t paddle in your part of the country but 1 day we will find ourselves on the same stretch. Keep up the great reviews.
Glad I could help buddy thanks for watching!!
Comparison to ripper and rewind would be awesome at some point.
I will soon!!
@@WadeHarrison surely puts out that comparison
@@matthewdunlea875 😊
This made me very excited to try mine out this weekend! Thanks for the great review as always! Also, my thigh braces are much sturdier vs the calleva demo boat. Probably just an issue with the very first boats.
Yes it was i actually know another guy that got one and I seen it yesterday and looked at it and his was rock solid so I did mention that it was a early demo version thanks for the feedback John
Hey Wade, where would you stack the Waka Goat up against the LL Sweet Ride as far as playfulness? Great video as always!
This has a little better edge on it then the sweet ride but they are close to each other yes
@@WadeHarrison Awesome, thanks Wade! Which one would you say stern squirts easier?
Sorry to keep firing the questions, but wondering about how the goat compares to the Billy goat (I have a BG that I'm selling)
I'd really like a river runner that surfs well, and ideally with a less catchy tail than the BG, and the ability to pivot a bit more , but keeping the speed & skipping
I was going to get a rewind, but none available for months. The other boat available is a scorch, which is pretty different but might also fit the bill?
I like the width of the BG
I guess what I'm asking is goat or scorch M ?(both are available) 150 lb, paddling G2/3/4 high and low volume, I want a boat that surfs well, & is fast around the river, with good primary and secondary stability. Less bothered about getting vertical
I have a machno for steeper/ harder stuff
Look at the new ripper 2 I don’t know your stats but the ripper 2 has been amazing at a HalfSlice and I’m big fan of the scorch as a creeker but your not pivoting that one
Oh see this one now yes at your weight I say try the ripper 2 M it’s more playful then the Goat
At 5:08 you rate its speed relative to other boats. At the end I hear you say "Chili's faster tan all of them by the way." Chili? did I hear you right?
Yes the ZET kayaks chilli is unbelievable fast I just did a podcast on the HalfSlice and covered this
Thanks!
I think you were spot on Wade. Got my new boat out yesterday and it was awesome surfing, river running, and the BOOFS!! It was a little harder to squirt than I expected especially because I am 190 lbs (partly the width of the stern I think compared to say a Rewind) but all around the boat is a performance machine and super comfortable. Also I have the black color and my thigh braces are much more rigid than yours on that demo as you said. So psyched with the boat overall and thanks for the reviews as always! Would love to hear your thoughts on a comparison with the Rewind given the very similar specs if you get a chance.
Glad I was on par with you on the review thanks for the feedback I appreciate that and I was was surprised also like you that it was actually really difficult to get the tail down I have a decent stern stall and this boat was very difficult to get vert but dam the river running was next level
I’m around 190 and thinking about picking up a used Goat. Looking for a fun surfing river runner for class III-IV mostly.
Are you still liking yours?
-thanks
Yeah I still love mine. Most comfortable boat I have ever had and it is a nice middle ground boat that surfs and squirts but is really good for running rivers. I’d say it would be great for what you want it for which is a fun river runner that surfs. Definitely try one out as it is a different boat depending on your weight but at ~200lbs I really enjoy it.
@@burchfisher thanks for the feedback my man
-cheers
@@davids6652I've just Pulle the trigger on one and I've demoed it multiple Times over the last half year. With some technique you are surely gonna be able to get it up (I can whip it around decently easy with the seat back one at 150 pounds)
Yo Wade at 185-190 would you leave the seat centered or shift it back? I’m 6’1”
-thanks
Center your heavy for this model
Cool video again mate keep up the good work
Thanks Kieran
How would you compare the stern of the braaap v the goat, in terms of playfulness.
It’s not easy to get vert it’s definitely more on the side of a river running HalfSlice
How is it compared to dagger rewind. Im having trouble deciding which one to take.
Rewind is more balanced play and down river this one is better river running but I recommend the rewind over the goat there’s a reason why it’s so hard to find a rewind right now everyone wants one after paddling it
@@WadeHarrison thanks wade...
Yeah exactly... i would wait for rewind for a year... yet waka is available almost imediately... and the price is higher f9r rewind.... huh
I have an axiom... im more dagger fan
@@kayakcroatia wait a couple months there’s probably something better coming
I got myself a GOAT. And i love it.
Hi Wade, great review as always! What would you recommend for somebody my size (190 lbs, 6ft3 inches) between the Goat and Steeze?
You need to look at the Steeze your height will be a issues in the goat but the goat will be little more playful
Thanks Wade!
No problem buddy
Great video.
Good job. ✌️
Thanks buddy
Hey Wade! Love your reviews mate! I’m tossing up between a rewind and a goat as a boat to paddle everything on! Paddling lots of grade 3+/4 and wanting a boat that is going to challenge me and push me to improve my technical paddling! Love a bit of play but also looking at getting a dedicated playful half slice down the line… Im 5’7 and 72kgs without gear! Would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks 😊
Rewind better all round with good play
Goat really good down river Creeker with minimal play
Legend thanks mate!
Hey, I'm in pretty much the same position in therms of 3+/4 water and wanting to challenge my paddling. 85kg and 6'2". And I have a banged up Antixs 1 that I love for playing. I don't paddle big volume, tight scrappy creeks is what I've got. Would you be suggesting the Rewind over the Goat?
Or even a spade or prion
Hey Wade, thank you for the reviews. I’m wanting to get into kayaking and your videos have definitely helped me in my research. What would you recommend for a beginner like me @ 5’6” and 170lbs?
just starting out and at what you told me your stats are med dagger kayaks code first jackson Z3 M pyranha machno M if there's something you're looking at let me know maybe can help more
@@WadeHarrison Thank you
@@caseypulliam172 your welcome
Looks like an amazing down river boat! Fast, carves, surfs...the fact it doesn't look like a person could throw the bow in the air kinda defeats the whole point of a half slice though. Thought the 🌶 was it, then I put my hopes on waka, now I'm happy I ordered a new ripper.
Yeah I was surprised they went after the downriver style you have to work really hard and have. Perfect spot to get this one vert even the guy that was in the green steeze tried it out and he is 200lb and has a powerful stern stall and he struggled
Which paddle are you using? Why is that not the ophion anymore?
The ophion was my buddy’s demo paddle he is distributing them here in the USA i gave that one back
I was just giving him my thoughts on it I have few paddles the one in this video is my favorite play down River paddle the AT super light
@@WadeHarrison thanks. I thought it will be some sort of this reason.
oh great, I already can't decide between the rewind and antix 2.0, now I have to add the Goat!
Antix 2 and rewind play a lot better but fall little short in river running compared to this
Awesome review. I have just bought a goat and I love it! I’ve not had any problems with it going vertical on me without my wanting it too but I’m still a bit nervous to take it on higher volume or steeper runs with higher consequences of getting it wrong. In you opinion how is the boat likely to react?
It goes vert but rarely goes past vert
You know it’s a good boat when you get multiple "OH YEAH!!” from Wade
yes a lot of wo wo's this day also
When will you get your hands on a Billy GOAT?
I'd love to hear a comparison to the Scorch.
I know a guy that has one I’m going to try to paddle it soon
Yes
did you notice those loose thigh braces at all during any of your runs?
The Flex OMG yes it was brutal I almost fail out the boat On a splat they were so flexing but this was a very early production and WAKA has fixed it from what I seen in my buddy's Goat
Nice run & review. What river is this?
Cheoah
Thanks and yes like they said ☝🏻☝🏻Cheoah River in NC USA
@@WadeHarrison Thanks, I thought it was the Cheoah but wasn't certain. I've never seen the Cheoah in person.
Do you have a podcast? sound just like the guy from the kayaking podcast i listen to
You mean this one
th-cam.com/play/PLzaFDbLVIh1Lth25kUpyeawb3BZrMhkio.html
@@WadeHarrison Yes brother that’s the one! Knew I recognised that strong accent 👍🏼
@@JackCarrickAdventure thanks for watching jack
How is it compared to the Steeze? Cheers for the review 🤘
Comparison it’s like a smaller version of the steeze this one fit better
less playful than a ripper but more stable? I'm tossing up between the two! I'm 5'11 165lbs
We are almost the same size i think in the long run you will like the medium ripper better then this because it’s a smaller style boat but does not splat and stren squirt surf as easy
@@WadeHarrison right on cheers bud, I think the one thing that has me hesitant about the ripper is it's only a gallon more in volume than my necky jive. I have paddled it before and had a great time whereas I haven't paddled a goat yet.
Awesome review
Thanks Judy!!
I wish i could see your review on exo rexy. I know that there is like none of them in the us, smh. I bought rexy and would be great for me to see the comparison.
Yeah I seen some videos of people paddling that one around and it looks like a really good one I’m looking around for one..,
@@WadeHarrison cool
Good review! Can you compare RPM and Chili. Is the Chili a RPM with a planning hull?
Thanks for the reviews!
That’s actually a good comparison the chili is like what the RPM should have evolved too
@@WadeHarrison Cool, thanks for the insight. I love my old RPM, and wold like have a planning hull RPM.
Congratulations for your good reviews.
Thanks buddy
Did this dude seriously flip his oar mid paddle like a drum stick!??? He's the Travis barker of kayaking! 🤣🤣
Hahah yeah couple times
@@WadeHarrison badass bro!😎
@@jasondunbar3667 thanks buddy
Rewind or goat
Ripper
Full out river running the shit and decent surfing but hard stern squirts-Goat, river running and speed with some play-ripper, a good mix of play and river running-rewind (best all around), full play with decent river running and slowest-antix 2.0..just my opinion
@@DownstreamV thx
@@DownstreamV I will either get the rewind or the axiom axiom is super cheap not that good for down river but it's okay for me
Yeah Matt nailed it he has spent time in all three of those so he knows what he talking about..