Film Photography Is A Trend
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.พ. 2023
- The world of film photography is in an interesting place right now. Let's have a little chat about why that is and how to go around it!
I was going to film a different video, but the sunny sixteen episode talking about film prices inspired me :)
Disclaimer: I know film photography isn’t really a trend. I simply wanted to touch on gen z making the demand for film go up over the past few years and how its effected prices and ways that I personally use to go around it.
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I believe the film trend was one of the best things to happen, it brought back that energy/love for film that many people had. I listen to a lot of older photographer interviews and a lot of them mention how expensive film was during their time. I’m advocate for shooting less, practice patience and work on your shot (composure, lighting, creativity) slow down and stop wasting frames. If you want to shoot hundreds of images a day/week then opt for digital and have fun with it, only thing that matters.
That’s a really good way to think about it. I always try to shoot smarter not harder. If I manage to get my hands on my first film camera this will definitely be something for me to remember!
@@StrawbearyStudios I own too many film cameras, I wouldn’t mind sending you one. The best way to kept film alive is to have others enjoy it and love the art form like I do.
Main reason I went FUJI was to test the film recipes, shoot manual in JPEG and let the composition's to the talking at no cost increase. Still love my 4 Olympus film units though.
@@StrawbearyStudios first of all. You pretty. Second. Damn this trend has lasted like more than 6 years for me. Third it could be cos of covid from 2020 people going to film as a way to cope from being inside their homes and have something to do.
I posted this above, but wanted to chime in to your comments. As A.I. becomes more popular, so will use of film. I think people are longing for authenticity and film allows for that. A.I. can replicate a lot of photos, but it can't replicate the negative. The tangebility of film makes it unlike any other type of photography, especialy if you develop and print your own film.
People shot film for years. Then they realized the convenience of digital. Then film comes back. After awhile people start to rediscover the convenience of digital. That cycle is interesting
I feel it is more like the watch industry and the quartz crisis. The advent of cheaper, more reliable and accurate quartz movements from Japan basically wiped out the Swiss mechanical watch industry in record time, as they could not compete and even tho they then tried to make their own quartz watches it was too little, too late, just like Kodak with digital cameras. But some Swiss watchmakers discovered a great niche for themselves and began marketing their watches not as a mere time keeping instrument, but as a luxury item, offering more soul and charm than the quartz alternatives. Evidently it worked really well and has kept on doing so for a few decades now. I feel the same thing is happening with film currently, an obsolete product that in all measurable ways is inferior to digital photography being rebranded as a luxury item with more soul and charm than the digital alternative and it seems to be working. Especially since most current users are not necessarily super involved in photography otherwise, just like many people wearing luxury timepieces don:t really care about fine watchmaking as well.
When I was younger I had an iPod touch and I'd say things like "Why would anyone buy a camera this is so much cheaper and I can carry it in my pocket" and like many photographers who picked up an actual camera I learned I was ignorant then.
I didn't understand film until I actually tried it either. It's much more cost effective to use digital, but that's not what it's about. There is a look I cannot recreate with as many emulsions as I've tried. And it makes you appreciate the imperfections of photography as if they were not imperfections at all.
I highly suggest you try film before you make a video like this. I would take it more seriously if you did. I find it very discouraging to those that want to get into this medium especially considering the algorithm of TH-cam recommended this to me a person who really enjoys film.
I get it I too am quite annoyed at the price hikes that Kodak have implemented. Film is pricey, but Trying film is not. If you walk into any thrift store you can find some pretty capable point and shoot film cameras for under $20 and you can buy Fuji Superia or Kodak Gold at Walmart ranging from $20 to $30 bucks for 3 rolls(I'm from Canada).
Trying film photography is well under any priced digital lens for Canon or Sony cameras.
I'd appreciate this video more if it didn't feel like you dismissed film entirely. If you're in a financial situation where you want to shoot film but can't afford the film yeah by all means use a digital camera. But the barrier of entry doesn't seem that high to me, if you just want to try it which you haven't, please do so before you discourage others.
You misunderstand me. I truly do admire the art of film and have plans to get a camera and try it out. I’ve wanted to do so for ages but haven’t been able to afford it. This video was to simply say for for a lot of gen z film is a trend to make their social media look cool and to provide alternatives that I personally use. I know for many film is not just a trend and is their way of artistic expression.
That's true and influencers like Kylie Jenner really nuked the price of film photography immensely in a way that really bugs me. There are affordable ways to get into film hopefully Kodak's true to their word that the price hike is just about expanding manufacturing and they then ultimately make it more affordable in the future people who can't justify it right now, I'm not holding my breath on that.😅
For real though if you're going into film photography and are serious about getting a camera check out your thrift stores nearby first for cheaper point-and-shoots to start off it's the best way to get in and see if it's for you before you invest significant money into an SLR or rangefinder Or even ask some family members you'd be surprised what they have.
You can also get closer to a film look by just using more vintage lenses with adapters. My only issue is either end of the spectrum (digital or film) talking any negativity whatsoever towards one another. The best advice someone can give these days is to find what works for you and turn off notifications lol. Nobody should have time for internet flame wars if you're really out that creating or making money working imo.
I've been shooting film since 2016 and the price now makes me cry. I don't go all in on sharing to social media like I did back then but the apps have changed their priority in a huge way to video, which I don't do. So I often feel deflated that I don't know how to celebrate and share my love of this medium when the engagement and reach is nothing like it was a few years ago.
Hey I read your comment and I'm really sorry you're feeling deflated about your photography! I got into film within the last year and I face the same issue at times. I think one big thing is sharing artwork with those around you either on somewhere like your Facebook or even with a local photography club! I've made some really good friends going to those and it keeps me always interested. I've struggled with sharing to social media but I think I will start sharing just a Facebook because those are the people that really matter to me. I only keep people that I know personally on my Facebook.
The reason to shoot film is to slow down and contemplate instead of spray and pray with digital. I shoot 35mm, 6x45 , 6x9 and digital. Both have their place and are wonderful to shoot. Its nice to have the option and if we dont support film it will go away. Slide film is amazing if you have never tried it. Positive images on a light table will make your eyes widen right up! Cheers
To be honest, if you're only interested in the "film look", using filters or presets with digital photos it's perfectly fine. Another thing you can do that can achieve a film/vintage look it's the lens. Using a cheap vintage lens on a mirrorless camera with an adapter can have more impact in the look than you think. I shoot on film for other reasons than solely for the look. I love the process, I also develop my films both black and white and color. To me it's fun. And the second reason I love film photography, it's for its archival quality. It's relatively more safe storing a negative than a digital file. That's why if I really care about something I will always shoot both with film and digital.
You make some really great points! I really admire film because it is such a hands on personal form of photography and one day I really want to experience that. I just might have to wait a little longer than I’d like
that is the shallowest thing I have heard on youtube. Film is more than a "look". Try developing and making dark room prints it is a process and far more rewarding and time consuming than shooting digital and plugging your memory card into your computer
It's pretty sad, I came into the scene right around new years and I discovered it at random on youtube and didn't see any reels or TikToks or anything like that and just started taking pictures. So seeing i somehow came in at the time in a massive resurgence while prices came up so sharply rly made me sad cus it's gonna be increasingly difficult to set myself apart while also spending a ton just to use the medium I'm interested.
I agree with you regarding film photography being a trend. As someone who started his journey shooting the film. The monetary cost and that of space can be overwhelming. Though I admire those who take that trip. I, myself, don't wish to go back.
When I adjust the price I paid for a Pro Pack of Porta 400 35mm at B&H in 2020, $63.95, to todays dollars the inflation adjusted cost is $73.92. The B&H price for the same pro pack today is $79.99. So the price increase is nominal per roll, more over when adjusting for inflation it is really only about 8% increase. I know folks are up in arms over this price increase but the actual increase is not nearly as big as the inflation adjustment. The two together is steep but inflation is not Kodaks doing. I think once the internet chatter about this "massive price hike" dies down people will keep shooting film. I also suspect that you will start to see more black and white film sold. It is less expensive, seems to be in stock more often, and is more forgiving when developed at home.
Some photos look better in black and white- in my opinion anyway
no film photography is not a trend. IT has been around for much longer than you and I and will continue even after we have passed
I never stopped shooting it after all the digital hype. I do have 2 digital cams but I also have 9 film cams. 35mm, 6x45 and 6x9. Love the options for both film and digital. I do have to say that seeing a roll of slide film on a light table or projected is a definite eye opener for any photographer that has never seen it. The colors are so vibrant and intense it really needs to be seen first hand.
Film photography never left and it will not disappear.
While analog is certainly a way of life for me, I can see how it's probably a niche trend for most people right now. Though, I'm optimistic that it is contributing to society learning that tangible things can be so much more meaningful.
Digital photographers are so used to shooting so many pix that when they go to film they are used to taking lots so they need to take lots on film. Think an extra 30sec and save film.
It’s funny to hear younger people talk about film they weren’t alive when film was the only option.
Funny how times change
As photographer for many years I tend to agree with you it is a trend and a art in the origin of true photography !! As some who's around professional photography digital is way more the reality !!! In fashion and I've been on many shoot s people want to see the images now ! And large portions of the that is film is because the generation as editors who thinks it's cool as long cost doesn't come out of their own Pocket ! Im Shooting film again but not on paid assignments Yes I have collection of film cameras 5x7 medium format 35 mm but to cost and time digital rules I do miss the darkroom but again time and money been taking photos since 1973 I'm now 68 I bet with in five years you'll see the trend level or drop TH-cam is funny too about the film Young gen who are experts anything goes now! Thank God for out of date film and I phone filters if I would of turned in a grainy off color image in photo school I would of got an F by my instructor
As others have mentioned, it's not clear that film today is generally much more expensive than it once was (like when I was young), when adjusted for inflation. Kodak and Fuji have certainly both jacked their prices up in the past few years, so it's more expensive than it was perhaps a decade or so ago, but not necessarily more than long ago. However processing has gotten more expensive as well. If you stick with black and white, and learn how to develop at home (really, it's not that difficult, and the developer is not toxic so can go down the drain (used fix is not toxic to us either, but the dissolved silver is not good for municipal waste treatment that uses bacteria, so I store used fix and take that to the local Eco Centre once a year or so). There is still the digitizing issue, but can be done reasonably well for social media purposes with a regular digital camera and especially a macro lens if you already have one. If your tap water is adequate for diluting the developer and fixer, which mine is, then the cost per roll developed is around a dollar or two, which is a lot less than lab development costs. Or you can go with an instant camera, at a cost of $1-2 per shot, which is certainly expensive. But really film is more about the experience for many of us. I shoot both, and a day shooting with a film camera, especially the larger formats like medium or large, is just a different experience than walking around with my digital. Good luck!
It is more expensive now when we consider that, especially in the free market neo-liberal nations such as the UK and US, wages for the working classes have gone backwards in real terms whilst prices have vastly outpaced their earnings.
Demand outweighs availability and that’s why prices go up.
What’s happening with film is very similar to what happened to the watch industry in the late 1970s and early 80s. Digital watches almost entirely wiped out the analog watches for digital watches. But analog watches came with hard for over a decade with dozens of new watch makers because people wanted a new experience.
Film isn’t going anywhere now because people want multiple types of experiences.
I wanted something between the two so I picked up a Polaroid sx-70 and had it completely refurbished for the film experience but for the instant experience
Great video!! I'm feeling inspired to use my digital camera more!
Yes yes yes!! Bust that baby out whenever. Even if it feels silly. It’s good to be silly!
As A.I. becomes more popular, so will use of film. I think people are longing for authenticity and film allows for that. A.I. can replicate a lot of photos, but it can't replicate the negative. The tangebility of film makes it unlike any other type of photography, especialy if you develop and print your own film.
That is my thinking. As AI images blur the lines between what is and isn't an actual photograph, I see more people connecting with analog as a sort of anchor in the real world. Yes, people have been manipulating and interpreting images since the beginning of film photography. But there is still that human connection that I think will become more appealing as things get more virtual and reality starts to blur in a variety of media.
I recently got into film photography and it made me fall in love with photography all over again. But it's not sustainable. I can't afford to pay hundreds of dollars every month so I purchased a digital camera and will limit myself to 4 rolls of film per month. Fingers crossed this won't taint the hobby for me.
My trending with film started in 1960... I never fully stopped... but I must say the pictures I get back suck most of the time because digitizing the negative to print it is a $#!+ way to do it.
I shoot from time to time with film for my pleasure. I like the rolei 35 just how they look like. It was a huge part of the history of photography. But most of the time i shoot digital.
I would have never thought to enter fil photography. I mean i always thought it was just a matter of looks, that are easily obtainable with digital /you can do whatever with digital). But then a friend of mine bought an olympus om-1 while i was with her and i decdied to buy a couple of cheap dslrs (fujica stx-1 and icarex 35) just to try out the "feeling" of a mechanical and an elttromechanical.
What i found out is that all the hype about film was bullshit like i expcted. Most people shoot it just for the trending looks.
On the other hand, though, i found out a whole new process of taking pictures. It forces you to pay sooo much more attention, to have so much more patience, to learn how to really read light, contrasts, color... in a couple of months shooting film i learnt so much more than in a couple of years with digital. And i love it so much! It's so annoying having to waste so many money on something that i remember, when i was a child, was like worth les than 1/4 the price we get to pay today, but at the same time it changed everything and i can't stop playing with it
ive just started shooting film and i think i fell in love with the imperfections for example my first roll of b/w film has little lightnings on it because i shot too fast. i really really like the look of the pictures with all the grain and stuff like that.
I love that about film!
@@StrawbearyStudios but i absolutely agree it’s expensive as hell the only cheap thing about it are the cameras there are some decent SLRs for leas then 50€ which is pretty cool if you think about it and lenses are relatively cheap but develment and scanning is expensive if you cant do it your self
i love film tbh, digital always just feels less full of life.
Film has always been around. People just grew tired of perfect images and pixels. It's all a sham to stand out on social media. Shooting on film gives the unique look, that you can't replicate on digital. The ones who can't afford film end up emulating the film look. Honestly, if you want that look, you got to shoot it on film. You simply can't do it with digital.
Digital is an equally good medium, and if you trust your process and commit to it, you can make good images, just like that. And just because you want to stand out and make it look unique, slapping the grain preset on it is not good. What if in the long run, everyone emulates the film look and what will you do next to stand out? So it's not about the medium, you just gotta believe in yourself.
I have definitely seen a small rise in interest in cassettes, but they get overshadowed by the vinyl crowd. In terms of audio-listening, I don't think wired earbuds and over-the-ear headphones (gamers tend to use them a lot) ever truly went away. Sure, wired earbuds are a bit harder to use because phones have deleted their audio jack ports, but plenty of people still swear by a physical connection over bluetooth devices (plus they are often the cheapest option). Over-the-ear headphones are just on the expensive end of things.
I’ve been shooting film since like 2016 when I was in hs and I’ve noticed an INSANE difference in the prices of stocks like gold 200 or Superia. Used to be like 10 bucks for a pack of three now it’s like 35 for ONE ROLL
I am not into shooting film. Some people prefer a record player. There will always be people that enjoy eclectic and niche hobbies. Some of the guys at my work who shoot film look down on digital. I don't feel any particular way about film. They however take my business card down from my work common area and tell people I'm not a real photographer.
I started with film back when it was the only game in town. Same with vinyl records. I cut my teeth on film photography. Shot film for a long time before moving on to digital photography. With digital I love that I can shoot something and go home, put it in the computer and start editing. Film has a process just like vinyl records do. I dusted off my film camera and plan to start shooting film again every now and then. Yes, film prices are way up. It's crazy. I see on youtube that a lot of the younger crowd is using film. Nice to see that. Photography is great regardless of the format.
I loved using film, different speeds, slides, black n white, then the whole process of developing the film and making prints, well out of reach today, black and white might just scrape in, the simple fact of watching something appear before you, then adjust the print to see what affects you could bring out. Smartphones and digital cameras, and now computer manipulation does the same thing, it doesn't feel the same.
So I actually agree with your statement that for most film will be a trend. But I think some like myself shoot it for the experience of slowing down and being Hands-On with your medium. I for One Love seeing my photo that I took and remember taking it up on a wall somewhere. That feeling of gratification from start to finish I don't think digital could ever replicate for me. Well I think film might go into a recession I think it will stay around a lot more than it has before. Keep in mind that camera companies or film companies are now selling a consumable product that buyers will be coming back for which is highly profitable so I think they will be here to stay for a while
Why do folks keep saying film photography is expensive? It does not have to be shooting B&W with home development. Such a practice also gets the photographer more involved with the process. Consider a $40 bulk loader and some reloadable cassettes for 35mm. For medium and large format a bargain film like Foma 200 will give you plenty of quality. Sure color photography is very expensive considering film costs and processing but remember B&W is a timeless classic.
I learned film and developing but I can't afford it anymore. I don't miss messing with all those chemicals. I do a thing I call Monochrome Monday for shooting Black and White every week to make retro style photos.
i really agree about FIlm photography being a trend, the whole raising up of prices from kodak and other companies is not just cause they wanna cash in, it's for what we know at least, a proper inventment on getting new machines up for developing new film stocks (hopefully) and maintain the actual ones, film wasn't expensive like 5 or 6 years ago cause the only roll avariable were leftovers from rolls cut for Hollywood at the time that just saved kodak and the entirety of at least color negative film photography
i started my passion not for the trend funny enough even if it was in the same period, almost one year ago, but because out of interest i wanted to try the old SLR that my dad used to always use when he was young, i got myself informed on how to shoot from a family friend, done a roll of test, and then, got to shoot 10 rolls on vacation, i LOVED IT and after that i started informing myself a lot more and found out about the trend starting on, i don't see film prices ever going back to be low as before any time soon tho, it's a shame but i'm being honest, i rather have film as a very expensive product, but that it will stay here, for who's passionate at least
plus for me it's not just doing the photo, i love the very slow process that film requires for both taking before the picture, then developing, scanning, converting, check if the focus is right, and if you got enough space (project i'm working on) get an enlarger and print out your negatives straight up, it's a passion that requires not only passion of photography but the slow process and method used in that time
also yeah, digicams are going to be the best massive thing, everyone is now talking about them, but i think they will not get so expensive like film did, they will get more expensive for sure, but there are SO MANY of those, it will become more like a "this X model is the GOAT for DIGICAM" and so influencer talks about it and everyone wanna have it, while a ton of Sleeper digicams are out there great as the model covered in the video
anyway loved the video essay
I think you are correct it is a trend for much of the young generation. Some of the seriouse younger photographers will keep shooting film and the rest will drop off with the price increase of film. You also have profesional that have been shooting for many years and will swear by film and never change. I think that the film trend to the young generation was greatly influence by many celebreteis such as Kendel Jenner. Film has been around for many years and it will be around for many more it's just a matter of who can afford it.
Great Video!!
Thank you! And I totally agree
Picking up an older ccd sensor point and shoot camera can get you pretty close to a "film" look for a very reasonable price.
I shoot both..in my personal studio... color is digital mostly, but B&W is film almost always .. and I prefer black and white, and hell..even with color, i move the saturation slider down down down... but even if I make a digital shot B&W... the film just has a different and to my liking, better look. HOWEVER.. post processing (scanning and photoshop) is way better than darkroom work. I always hated darkroom work
We’re not at the peak of film photography by far. It used to be the only way.
Umm, film photography peaked between the 1950s through 1970s… the current wave might be peaking but larger perspective still says we are a historic low for film usage in still images.
You’ve got a new subscriber! I love this hot take and I agree with a lot of your points. I’m a hybrid shooter I love both for different reasons🎞️🌸✨
Welcome! Glad to have you!!
Film is definitely expensive, I tried out an old point & shoot, loved the experience so now splashed out on an SLR which I probably did a bit too hastily.
But I loved the photos compared to what I could get on my phone - and sure I could get just as good digitally but I quite like not knowing how it’ll turn out, taking a bit of time with it.
I think in terms of it being a trend, it might be. But vinyl has had a come back and doesn’t seem to be going anywhere any time soon, granted it’s less hassle than film. It might not rise to that scale but I’d hope film doesn’t disappear completely, but yeah I agree be nice for it to come down in price overall. Because film, cameras, developing it racks up
Attribute. Contribute is a different word.
It's trending right now but i don't think it qualifies as a trend. A style of photography like the Wes Anderson look might be considered a trend.
And we are not at peak film. Peak film was 2000ish right before digital really broke out.
Indeed it is. Thanks for the correction!
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My personal opinion is that Kodak wants to end film production, seeing it as at best a temporary market, but possibly can't due to the spin-off of Alaris to their underfunded pension fund. They are simply trying to kill the film market. Personally, I've shot mostly black and white for 30 years and switched to Ilford years ago. I also use Foma film, which is even less expensive. I tried digital for a few years a while back and just didn't bond with it. As a computer programmer, systems analyst and IT manager I sat behind a keyboard and monitor for 40 years: I'm not doing that again.
Thank you for sharing! Your perspective is one I find really interesting. I can understand why digital isn’t for you.
I,ve been shooting film both 35mm and 120 colour & Black and white over 40 yrs now , brought a Pentax Kx years ago used it didn’t bond however found it worked well along side my film cameras as a preview camera/light meter almost like a Polaroid back would work , yes another step in taking said photo but saved me a lot of wasted film over the years !
If that were the case they wouldn’t be bringing back discontinued film stocks. They are raising prices, but so is every other business. Inflation is crazy right now. This argument would be more accurate for Fuji since they have been discontinuing film stocks for years and allegedly don’t even make their own film anymore.
I highly doubt that Kodak wants to end film production. That's their business. There will always be several Christopher Nolan type film directors where money is no object and you are telling me that Kodak is going to stop producing cinema film for their block buster movies?
I love film,it's way better than digital garbage
Omg what is that amazing mic you are using??
I've been shooting film for the past five years and honestly I'm on the verge of giving it up. I mostly shoot black and white so I'm not as affected by price hikes as many others but it's still expensive. Yes film is going to give you its unique look, but is that look different enough to justify the price gap? Hardly. If you take the time to practice with some color grading software you can get 90% of the way there for a fraction of the price. If I want the analog experience I'll whip out the 4x5 with some positive paper, at least the end result is something radically different from a digital picture.
It’s heartbreaking to see people forced to switch. Hopefully there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Yeah, I don't know. I've been doing it for decades and haven't stopped. If there's a peak, it's because film cameras aren't being made.
Film was always expensive. I used to spend $200 a week back in the 80's and 90's. That was 80's and 90's dollars. Some people think that Photoshop was the reason pro's moved so fast to digital. Nope, it was largely because digital was not sending us broke. Photoshop was just a bonus. We saved money with bulk loaders, did our own processing, including color, to save money. But a shoot took a lot of rolls, and we spent the night in the darkroom after the shoot, but no matter what we did, film cost us a fortune week in and week out.
Well said .
A good alternative to film is the Nikon D 50 with it's single layer CCD sensor , as this sensor has silver oxide properties , the D 50 really is a digital film camera , hence back in the day digital cameras was designed to replicate film cameras , if you buy a Nikon D 50 you'll bless the day .
Ooo that sounds awesome! I’ll have to keep note of that camera. Thanks!
One of the reasons I like the old Canon 20D and the images I see from the original 5D. Part of the design priorities in the early digital days was to produce an image that had a film-like look. Also, using the oldest DSLRs you don't have live view or big screens to chimp with. You can take something like the 20D and use it like you would a film DSLR. Work your settings, make exposure and composition decisions based on the scene, and wait until you get things home and on the computer (kinda 1-hour photo processing thing) to see if you got it right. I gave my son my old 20D, but I have another 20D that was converted to infrared. Two of those images of six total are going to be in a gallery show in October.
I am the grand old age of 56 years when I was at college photography was a part of my Art degree in 1984 film was the medium nothing else and still is for me now , prices back then were not cheap you just were carful not to waste your shots like in this digital world we live in to be honest I’ve just sold my DSLRs and I’m back on the film I think digital photography is mind numbing boring I love all about the film process and I guess I’m just old school film prices don’t bother me I think here in the UK 🇬🇧 hp5 at £8 a 36exp roll is reasonable. Film will last prices will go up and down just like they have done for years . Stick with it the rewards are a more meaningful photograph that’s just my opinion
Poverty seems to be a trend also. If it’s to expensive, one should find something else to do that isn’t.
Definitely a trend! I could get Portra in 120 for about 6 bucks a roll only 3-5 years ago, now I can't find it for less than 15. Gen Z (and Zillenials) that hopped on the trend in the past few years, are largely moving onto Digicams. I think everyone I know is shooting a lot less, regardless of digital or film.
or you could get kodak gold or fuji consumer film for much less & shoot it for near identical results.
Portra 160 120 is $10 a roll right now.
you can start film photography with a $20 film camera and $8 per roll (36exp) of color film or $5 per roll black and white :) don't need to aim for the most expensive kodaks right away ;P if you're from the USA, Walmart sells 3-packs of fujifilm 400 at ~$22 :) self developing black and white is only a few cents per roll :)
I’ve been looking into it! :)
I enjoy your video, you have such nice energy, subscribed!
Thank you so much!!
I shoot film only b&w film I develop and bulk load film it’s not a trend I have been shooting film for 20yrs
I always been one to live in the past as if I had nostalgia for it. (I have some! Just didn’t live in the period mostly had some carry over) So seeing trend explode and people accessorize with y2k, I find it really cool. I always would style with a pager and dress like the late 90s. I love all of your alternative ideas by the way.
I like to shoot what ever roll I took on. Then I while I wait for it to get developed, I just run around with my dslr and digipix
its a trend indeed but hopefully its a positive one. its kinda lame when you're into analog photography but your main objective is to gain followers all over this universe. “I'm a photographer and I shot these...” this crap was all over Instagram LOL. most of my friends are already left film photography, bought the Fujifilm camera with those film preset thingy or post-process using apps to emulate film. Bought a 2 grand digital camera and prices start dropping each day while my Nikon F, FM2 and Rolleicord prices are hiking. I don't do much color film, has been sticikng with BW for years, developed them myself and it is very cost effective. I mean, its not just about the medium, digital vs film, its the whole process. When we are living in an age of megapixels and automation, Artificial Intelligence, its good to do something that requires our judgements, the beauty of making mistakes, to hold something and look it under the light and say to yourself, “what the hell is this and when you scan or print it, you realised it was your cat LOL” ...
How do you make videos that look this clean??
Thank you! I don’t think I do anything super fancy but for my sit down videos I use my DSLR :)
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first of all: only 61 subscribers?? that should be a crime. secondly, the only reason *i* am doing it is because its required for my film major and all of the development stuff is free, you just have to learn how to do it yourself. but unfortunately ill probably drop film entirely because its just totally uneconomical. and if you thought film was expensive... photo print paper is like robbery. $60 for 25 sheets of half decent stuff.
great video!
Yeah it is a trend but I don’t care.. I do film photography because I like it, and the fact that “everybody does that” doesnt mean I shouldnt do it too..
There’s nothing wrong with trends or sticking with a trend even when people leave it because you enjoy it! I’ve been enjoying working with film and will continue to do so :)
We aren't at the peak of film photography considering it's been around for many many years. it's uptake by some people since the introduction of digital my have peaked but this is quite different.
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Thank you! 💗
So do I.
i probably got into film several years back as part of a trend, I didn't know I'd be sticking with it as much as i have.
I don't buy a lot of film anymore, but i shoot all the time. I can't afford processing costs, so i do it myself. this taught me not to take photos that I could've predicted I wouldn't have wanted to spend a couple hours developing and scanning anyway. that's how i save on film costs.
instead of 36 photos with 34 duds, i shoot a roll over the course of a week or two. i bring the camera with me everywhere. as time passes i end up with rolls mostly filled with photos i love.
i always said that I can't afford a decent digital camera, and it may be true to some extent. regardless, i probably wouldn't care, outside of flash metering. using a film camera forced me to learn about exposure and this beautiful science as deeply as possible. i studied street photography and "when to press the shutter."
I've come to love how slow of a process it is. I love overthinking every aspect. It's such a fun workflow to me, and it's allowed me to look at the world with a far different eye, though only because I'd slowed down.
I have a phone in my pocket with a fantastic camera, but those thousands of photos will likely never be looked back on more than once. shooting film has deepened my memories of the things that i love :)
great work with this video !
i did not expect Hatsune Miku in a video a about film photography yet here we are lol
I gotta keep you on your toes
Don’t think it’s a trend..it’s def coming back..has a more unique look digital just doesn’t have. Same with motion picture film. If you watch season 1 of euphoria, it was shot on the Alexa which is digital..season 2 was shot on film which looks so much different and in my opinion superior. I love film however prices have now not allowed us to shoot as easily and more affordable. Love digital..I seek out cameras with older CCD sensors which to me has a more film like, high contrast look.
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Trends.. aren't they... funny?
Victims, aren't we all?
I never said I never follow trends. I think trends can be a great way to experiment and find new things you like!
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Да, плёночная фотография это тренд. И поэтому цены на плёнку выросли до небес. Жадность производителей не знает границ. Я очень надеюсь, что на рынке появятся новые производители фотоплёнки, которые смогут наполнить рынок и сбросить с пьедестала слишком жадных монополистов. А, пока этого не произошло, мы будем как-то выживать, но не бросим это прекрасное занятие. И я не собираюсь заменять плёнку на что-то ещё. Потому, что остальное - это просто жалкая подделка, и оно никак не заменит плёнку.
Wait until everyone works out digital isn't archival.
And Walkmans are back.
Very true. That’s why I print the work I’m most proud of.
In the art world the quickest way to ending your career is to do that everyone else does. I’d shoot film if I were you. The reason? In a world of abundance, the most valuable things are rare. Photographers who shoot film will become more rare as time moves on.
I intend to! I’ve been window shopping for a starter film camera for a while now. The current prices (and life) have just made me put it on the back burner for now.
@@StrawbearyStudios I owed a studio for years and I worked as a pro for years. I also taught photography. A tip for you. Pawn shops. Ive found the best cameras In pawn shops. Good luck! Film is a blast to shoot!
Biggest trend ever. People shooting the same cameras with the same stock with the same composition/subject/location etc. I CANNOT wait for this tik tok fueled film trend to die down and people to start shooting things that are meaningful to them again. So sick of seeing the same shit from different people everyday
I think maybe a third of film shooters are just being trendy . It seems a lot of them
are using high end point and shoot auto everything cameras . Eventually the electronics will fail and they’ll just go digital . IMO they’re not really serious about photography and just don’t want to invest the time to learn the concepts ! When the hipsters abandon film the prices will come down !
I wish icould afford to shoot film.
paper camera is the worst possible alternative for film. it's kinda like the digifilm bs from the fake yashica from hongkong. but at least the fake yashica has the body of a camera. if you're just after the "film look'' you can just edit the photos captured on your phone using lightroom or other editing software.
and no it's not about basic economics, kodak and fuji would stop producing film if demand falls and the whole thing becomes unprofitable they would just move on producing medical equipment or whatever makes the most profit. film is very profitable now. it's their cash cow and they're milking it to death.
I have fun with my paper camera but I know it’s not for everyone! I still think supply and demand play a role in the prices going up over the years. Sure there’s probably tons of other factors but that’s not what I wanted to talk about in this video.
You started talking about film photography as a trend and how has picked up interest as tool for influencers to create material for social platforms and then you move on to talk about playing with settings on digital photo to emulate analog film... If you intention using film is just to take a couple of pictures, send the film to develop on a lab and post on Instagram the results, then yes for you is just a trend and nothing else... But if you work film photography and learn the set of skills to develop film at home, the skills to understand push and pull on film and experiment with the manual parts of the whole process then is not a trend for you but a hobbie or even a passion and that will not go away.
It do be a trend
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Film isn’t expensive… life is expensive. If you believe in what you are shooting, then price shouldn’t even be an issue. Gas prices are high, but does that stop you from getting to and from places? A trend dies eventually, because people get tired easily. I shoot film because I love it and it’s therapeutic and love the whole process of it. If you think that color film is pricey, then shoot black and white and learn home development and printing … you will save so much better but it’s also good to support the local and small labs in town…. It’s a catch 22
Here is the answer why you would shoot on film. Because in actuality it is cheaper than digital.
How you may ask, because if you were to take your digital images and get them duplicated onto film as in converted from a digital container to a physical celluloid container it would cost you more than to just shoot on film to begin with.
If you are happy with your raw original photos to stay in a digital format forever then shoot digitally.
If you want your original negatives and positives to stay in a physical format then shoot on film.
Personally I do not trust digital technology. Over time, digital data becomes corrupted and lost easily. Also over time digital hardware both physically fails and suffers issues of incompatibility making it hard to read old devices. In 50 years time a USB stick will probably be just as readable as the floppy disks of the past.
I get where you’re coming from! Digital corrosion is a problem.
However, where I’m at in life digital just works best for me and my wallet. I always try to educate my clients on the importance of printing their photos because so many things can go wrong if they only had digital files.
I know I can’t print all my art but the important stuff gets printed and the rest will just be temporary. That’s cool with me.
I’m glad film works for you and that there’s so many people who appreciate it! I admire it a lot and have plans to work with it myself in the future.
@@StrawbearyStudios -I would rather shoot 12 photos on a roll of 120 in 6x6 in 2 hours than shoot 100 photos on digital that I most likely will all throw away. Then the ones I keep I will inevitably lose as I am up to 15 external drives of data. Some of which have broken on me already.
Be creative and buy a 16mm camera, shoot thousands of photos on film 🙃
The trend will go away, in part because of greed.
I see a potential of this channel growing up. You should review cameras and photographers and photobooks
Thank you! I’ll keep those suggestions in mind :)
Talking about basic economics, you don’t seem to have studied it. Do a cost analysis of film from late 90s or early 00s and, if you adjust for inflation, you’ll see prices are not at the all time high you claimed. In fact, you seem to be confusing porta (pro film stock) vs amateur film (i.e. fuji 200). Only pros bought the earlier pro stock back then. Whether or not some people use film being a trend is not clear. This requires evidence you do now have.
Here what is hilarious about your video: you claim film is too expensive & then say digital is the solution. Let me guess. Do you just HAPPEN TO SELL PRESETS on your site? Academics call this shock doctrine (i.e. exaggerate a problem & claim to solve it).
You are attempting to bamboozle people. Didn’t work. Some people don’t want rf radiation from bluetooth. Educate yourself on the cell phone problems from 80s & 90s.
I was talking about supply and demand curves which is basic economics. I also don’t sell presets. I also gave affordable options for digital, so did you really watch the video and listen to what I had to say?
What a tiresome video. Gen z are so enamoured with themselves and their insight. B/W film photography , shooting, printing and development has been around for the best part of 200 years. It suits a particular artistic temperament. There is magical moment in the dark alone when the print starts to come through that ties you to the image in a way that cannot be emulated digitally. This obsession with the passing of trends is cynical and divisive. Okay film is expensive because it's not mass market the way it once was - have you seen the cost of oil pastels. But youve got enough for your pumpkin spice latte grande from Starbucks and 15 bucks for a pizza.
I love how much this video has created a discussion and some of my opinions have changed since I made this video. For instance I have slowly started to shoot film when I can! I understand the magic of film.
I do think this comment does say something about your view on the younger generation. I never insulted the photographers who use film. I even said how much I admire the art form. But here you are generalizing and assuming I drink pumpkin spice lattes ( I don’t) and eat out all the time (I cook 90% of the time).
I hope you have a nice day and choose to show a little kindness!
@@StrawbearyStudios thanks for your reply. some context: i am 61 which means that i was 15 when punk broke in the UK in 1977 having grown up in a hippy environment. so i see gen z from that point of view.: over-sensitive, tending towards victimhood, and fragile. it doesn't make me right, its simply my perspective. i remember buying the first few issues of ID magazine which were stapled photocopies and people set up independent record labels and publishing houses and created their own fashion labels
. i know film is expensive, but hopefully new manufacturing techniques will bring the price down. enjoy your analogue journey
You are the problem.
I don’t stand by a lot of things I said in this video anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@StrawbearyStudios Hopefully you are still standing. I hope! C'mon now.
Great Video, just stumbled across your channel from ✨The Algorithm✨ and had to subscribe, the quality of this is insane for the size of the channel. Great video and a solid take, keep it up