If in a union, they should be the first port of call, check the union handbook for details of how to access their help and note there is usually a clause in the membership rules saying they will refuse to provide assistance if if you seek help elsewhere and then try to use the unions legal services.
Happened to me, employers have a duty to check office furniture every year, this is due diligence and the law. I obtained whiplash and have nerve damage as a result, which I life changing. I claimed compensation gainst my organisation and won.
If the chair was actually broken.... then chances are her new colleagues(?) probably knew about it and therefore either set it up to embarrass her...or were negligent too ..for not warning her!
I'm kinda surprised from another aspect - I work for a public body and in my experience (not that I've had anything like this happen) they do everything to make sure employees are looked after etc. I'd get the Union involved as they will access to lawyers.
She should have just gone to her union. They would give her legal representation and have told her from the outset the employer was talking b0llocks. This is the type of thing unions are excellent at doing. My mother had great success dealing with an unreasonable employer by using union rep to fight for her.
A pre shift check on a chair ? Never heard of that before , do they have a checklist to tick off like an flt or industrial machine etc ? Bet they don't .
I wonder if the employer is getting mixed up with user adjustments (height, back, rake) which the user should do for their own safety. Such checks don’t extend to the mechanical integrity of the chair which are clearly the employer’s responsibility.
would that check be required every time you go to sit on a chair in this company? I'm not convinced that this company has costed the man hours per year for that. but if that is the position of the company, that every member of staff should take 10 mins to check that the chair they are going to sit on is in good working order before sitting on it.
10 minutes? I'd be sending them a response that I'll require a day or 2, and then invoice them for the time - whilst expecting pay for the "lost" hours of work; if they want me to work outside of my employed capacity, they have to pay extra for that expertise!
@@dalek3086 costed, meaning having crunched the numbers to see the actual cost. if you are going to be a grammar Nazi, at least be correct, else you just look like a fool.
If they're big enough then it actually costs less to self-insure, if you do it competently. You still have to pay out claimants, but not the profit the insurance company makes on premiums, nor the tax on premiums.
They very clearly said the chair jerked them backwards - you don't need to be overweight at all, let alone morbidly obese, to get whiplash injuries from a sudden jerking motion. Have you seriously never tweaked your back etc. by doing something trivial like standing up too quickly or reaching for something in a slightly unbalanced way?
You can get whiplash from literally any sudden jerking movement, such as that clearly described by the caller. Someone’s weight has nothing to do with it.
Many people are thinking that I am sure but it is still utterly irrelevant as if she did exceed the weight that the manufacturer of the chair deemed the limit, this would be entirely down to the employer to provide a suitable chair.
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Should be in a union and you would get free legal advice and representation.
If in a union, they should be the first port of call, check the union handbook for details of how to access their help and note there is usually a clause in the membership rules saying they will refuse to provide assistance if if you seek help elsewhere and then try to use the unions legal services.
Happened to me, employers have a duty to check office furniture every year, this is due diligence and the law. I obtained whiplash and have nerve damage as a result, which I life changing. I claimed compensation gainst my organisation and won.
If the chair was actually broken.... then chances are her new colleagues(?) probably knew about it and therefore either set it up to embarrass her...or were negligent too ..for not warning her!
I can imagine a scenario where a chair has broken but hasn’t been taken out of use.
I'm surprised a public body is trying so hard to protect it's money seeing as it's taxpayer money. Gotta respect them for that
I'm kinda surprised from another aspect - I work for a public body and in my experience (not that I've had anything like this happen) they do everything to make sure employees are looked after etc. I'd get the Union involved as they will access to lawyers.
However, the tax payer will be paying for on-going medical via the NHS. It would be cheaper to spend £150 or so on a working chair.
@@theeniwetoksymphonyorchest7580 yes but they cant turn back time and fix the chair right now they are trying to keep taxpayer losses minimal
She should have just gone to her union. They would give her legal representation and have told her from the outset the employer was talking b0llocks. This is the type of thing unions are excellent at doing. My mother had great success dealing with an unreasonable employer by using union rep to fight for her.
A pre shift check on a chair ? Never heard of that before , do they have a checklist to tick off like an flt or industrial machine etc ? Bet they don't .
I wonder if the employer is getting mixed up with user adjustments (height, back, rake) which the user should do for their own safety. Such checks don’t extend to the mechanical integrity of the chair which are clearly the employer’s responsibility.
would that check be required every time you go to sit on a chair in this company? I'm not convinced that this company has costed the man hours per year for that.
but if that is the position of the company, that every member of staff should take 10 mins to check that the chair they are going to sit on is in good working order before sitting on it.
10 minutes?
I'd be sending them a response that I'll require a day or 2, and then invoice them for the time - whilst expecting pay for the "lost" hours of work; if they want me to work outside of my employed capacity, they have to pay extra for that expertise!
@@dalek3086 costed, meaning having crunched the numbers to see the actual cost.
if you are going to be a grammar Nazi, at least be correct, else you just look like a fool.
@@johng.1703 if you are UK resident , then bad English. Very simple.
People pursue PI claims for witnessing accidents. Surprised he hasn’t already went to one.
Hasn't went?
The legal advice here is to get proper legal advice. Seems fairly basic. Surprised when he says that public bodies don't have insurance
If they're big enough then it actually costs less to self-insure, if you do it competently. You still have to pay out claimants, but not the profit the insurance company makes on premiums, nor the tax on premiums.
Public bodies self-insuring is normal. You don’t want public sector insurance risk on your insurance policies.
The man is seeing pound signs. COMP UN SAY SHUN!! 🤦♂️
And?
So?
Where are you trolls coming from?
Whiplash
For sitting on a chair?
Was this woman 400lbs?
They very clearly said the chair jerked them backwards - you don't need to be overweight at all, let alone morbidly obese, to get whiplash injuries from a sudden jerking motion.
Have you seriously never tweaked your back etc. by doing something trivial like standing up too quickly or reaching for something in a slightly unbalanced way?
You can get whiplash from literally any sudden jerking movement, such as that clearly described by the caller. Someone’s weight has nothing to do with it.
What’s her weight?
Many people are thinking that I am sure but it is still utterly irrelevant as if she did exceed the weight that the manufacturer of the chair deemed the limit, this would be entirely down to the employer to provide a suitable chair.
people need to get a life haha
Idots. 😅
Who is an idot (sic)?