You know, I haven't the first clue as to how to make awesome things come out of this, but I'm certain awesome things can indeed come from this and other things from teenage engineering. You've got my subscription. Hopefully I can buy something from you guys soon.
Guys, I get it. I'm an Android guy too but don't make the mistake to think that this device is useless without an iOS device. It's standalone features are 99% of the whole thing and its THE BOMB (from what I've seen). So yes. TE please give us an Android app, but also be fair to TE as in this is not made for Apple users per se.
OK, you've got me again. I sold my OP-1 a few months ago because the Tape-Record-Method wasn't mine and I stopped loving it. Now I saw a few videos on the OP-Z (Hello, Cuckoo & Magpie) and I instantly fell in love. I ordered the OP-Z yesterday and it seems to me that this time the love will last. Keep up the good work. :)
Dear TE....what Fantastic Machine! I use it every day and It has inspired me to make lots of music and be creatieve...I have 1 request...please add a sample import function to the app....that would make it even more portable...
the best thing about this from what ive seen so far are the effects they are the only thing that make this hardware tablewave vst produce some interesting timbers
One step forwards, two steps back. The best part of the OP-1 for me is using it on trips and on public transport. It sits perfectly on my lap, with a very nice integrated screen showing me what is happening. The aluminum keys feel great too, like a mechanical keyboard. Now, I have to balance a secondary screen (Apple only) or rely on remembering what all the LED combos mean unless I want to get lost in menu diving, and what are these buttons? Little plastic clickers? Disks for knobs? Idk, it looks like it does a lot of cool stuff, total powerhouse and all, but the design just feels archaic compared to the OP-1. I hope it's what other people want, but it's definitely not for me.
It all comes together pretty quickly. I've only had it a day and am getting the hang of the interface. It also comes with a little iPhone rack holder if needed.
Hi, I was able to get my hands on the second batch and I assure you that it is much more intuitive and fun than it may seem ... No problem to play with in transport, toilets or in your bed ... Dirsk for knobs is absolutelly awesome. Screen is optional :t his can help learn the beast at first. Personally, I really feel that this machine has been long thought with love.
teenageengineering too bad you guys discontinued the OP-1 we wanted to purchase 4 for the studios but this OP-Z has too many compromises. Not smart leaving money on the table.
Teenage engineering made you a brand new device filled with tools both amazing and bizarre. If it’s anything like the OP-1, which my guess, it is in ways- you know you’d find your own unique and creative way to utilize it. It’s the craziest Swiss Army knife you’ll ever own.
Yeah, I've been trying to clear that up with them for wks!! Given up with it now!! Thought at first they cudn't be so daft to make it only compatible with apple platforms but it seems they have been! No thanks TE, I'm not buying apple! Oh and to get a new Op1...tis impossible in UK at moment ! Piss poor.
Red Caoimh I nearly bought one (OP1) last year. I had a deposit on one but it got delayed twice. In the meantime Elektron launched the Digitakt so I snapped one up instead. Then the Octatrak Mk2, then the Analog4 mkii, then the Digitone. A month ago a put a deposit on the OPZ, I'm 9th in the Queue so it may be close to Xmas before I get mine.
This looks like a nice upgrade to the Pocket Operator line of products - a standalone tool for making short or improvisational music in a specific range of styles. It's more flexible though, capable of a wider range of sounds and more complex sequences. Probably not very useful as part of a larger studio though. It seems designed to play alone, and has some pretty hard limits. So probably best for musicians who are starting out or want a very minimalist style. It's in an odd niche somewhere above music toys but not really up to the level of professional instruments. So... If people view it as a Super Pocket Operator, they'll love it. But if compared to a DAW or a mod tracker or a Digitakt+Digitone or a table of synths, people will find it falls short. Depends on expectations.
I get a lot of mileage out of my OP-1. It's kind of a jack of all trades, master of none. Since it does a bit of everything, it's versatile and useful for filling gaps. And it's particularly useful as a sketch pad. I tend to draft songs there before making the full version, like sketching an image on paper before painting it on canvas. Would be really handy to have eight 12-minute tracks though, instead of four 6-minute tracks. And no electrical noise when plugged into USB. Those are the two main limitations I run into with it.
It looks fantastic and it is something I'd happily have alongside my OP-1 but the deal breaker is the insistence of only using iOS / MACOS devices as the screen. I can't think of a single sensible reason that it is so restricted and as I will never own an Apple device, it looks like I'll be ignoring this otherwise brilliant instrument. Seeing as this is mainly a GUI you've provided, please implement an Android compatible screen mode and I'll almost throw my money at you!
Maybe, but at least some assurance that the software would ever be written and subsequently made available would be nice. When 5 out of every 6 mobile phone owners have an Android device, this is a glaring oversight and a massive chunk of the market currently ignored. I also get that you can't cater for every Android device but aiming for the top handsets would be a start.
I have a great Idea @teenageengineering: make an upscaled version of OP-Z that's about a size of Yamaha's Seqtrack. I love my OP-Z but I'd really like bigger buttons and sturdier body with bigger battery. You don't even need to make any changes in the software - just make OP-Z bigger in size, it will help to play it easily and even redo buttons - make them computer-clicky. The price will stay the same and people will order new OP-Zs like crazy, including me!
waiting for mine currently .... just hope to have all my buttons sit in the device perfectly ... something like those 2 buttons above the "4", i think it is the arpegiator and channel button are askew in their slot ... OCD kicks in
I will never ever have IPhone in my pocket. You really should invest the resources to build an android version of your app, or a huge amount of customers will only get half of this genuinely amazing product.
guys, it's about time you address the double trigger situation, improve the build quality or lower the price tag.. i was about to buy it until i learned it lasts two years max. imagine all the people who bought a used one... i love u but this isn't a great look
Teenage engineering can you add a feature to the op-z where are you can you Multiple pages of sounds are you change between the pages by holding track And hitting + Will go to the next page and hitting - while holding track Will go back a Page .
holding track and pressing - or + will shift all steps of the current track back and forth. so that combo is taken. not quite sure what you want to do. if you want quick access to a lot of different parameters then perhaps you could get that by using an external controller. if you mean something else then please try to specify and we can maybe come up with a suggestion. thanks for your support!
not sure what you mean. if you want you could try to explain your idea a little bit clearer and start a conversation with our support team. maybe even send a video of yourself explaining it if it's hard to put in writing. we could then forward it to the developers. support.teenage.engineering anyway, thanks for your creativity and support!
Just got mine.. Yippee. The Battery lasted about 3 hours out the box. Anyone know how long you are supposed to recharge it, please? Dont worry I found the answer myself.. solid green. I read the manual.
@@gloverelaxis Well, if android didn't have such a shit audio system, there'd be heaps of music apps available. Try playing with a drumming app on your android and you'll be just as frustrated as I have been with it.
@@YasinHasan you have no idea. I have an Android phone but it's well known how bad the latency is. Get a drum app, whack the drums with your fingers and the sound will come after the sound your finger made on the screen. This is reflected in every app. iOS has very little latency and makes music apps usable on mobile.
Apple vs Android in the comments. Dope looking piece of gear, and I dig how functional it is. I couldn't see myself using it for all that it's purposed for so I'm considering the OP-1 over the OP-Z...if I can find one.
So, apart of buying a 600$ machine I had so much hipe on, now I also have to buy another machine which costs 600$ despite the fact it's one of the oldes designs currently "supported"?
Adzix // VVLV Hope so too. But I did have confirmation from two owners. One managed to get 5:30 hours out off the battery. It seems to be short from the “4 Times back and forth over the Atlantic” Are you from teenager engineering? Can you confirm the more or less 48 hour battery life Thanks
this is a section of the free OP-Z app called 'motion' and it is a preset videopak made in unity 3d. read more about it here: teenage.engineering/products/op-z/videolab download the free companion app here: ios: apps.apple.com/app/op-z/id1088232296 mac: apps.apple.com/app/op-z/id1098190457 google play: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
This looks very cool. I don’t think i could give up my OP-1 for this though. Part of me wants this but it’s still quite a pit of money...and it’s plastic with no screen. Should be called the ‘PO-Z.’
@@teenageengineering thanks for the answer, this is less bad. How about Android app, is it possible to let us know if its on the road map? My purchase is dependent on that.
thanks for the reply. i was just asking because i wanted to buy one and it seems it's worldwide unavailable atm. are there any production issues or do you guys work on OP-1 ver. 2 or whats the problem?
So much unnecessary flak for only supporting iOS. TE can build for whoever the hell they want. Android (great os) has intrinsic issues with audio latency due to the virtual nature of the operating system. That's why most serious mobile production suites only target iOS. Kindly stop and think before making a mess of the comments. Brilliant addition to the TE line by the way.
@Louis Smith it's not unnecessary flak. Nobody is saying they can't build for who they like. Everyone here loves what TE does and like myself have probably been waiting for ages to get a hold of their new bit of kit...only to be disappointed it's compatible with apple products only. Born of frustration nothing else. Please check today's headlines about students being forced to work in apple factories in China. Also, surely you've heard of the suicide nets around their other factories. Yes they can build for who they want, but to alienate over 50% of a potential customer base is pretty strange from a business point of view. I, like others, want it, but we can't have it.
@@redcaoimh3127 That's an interesting point you make. And I won't make any statements on the China thing as I am not knowledgeable on that and I won't be able to make a useful contribution. Just quickly googling it, however, I saw a statement from Apple spokeswoman Wei Gu: “We are urgently investigating the report that student interns added in September are working overtime and night shifts.” The supplier and had also been audited three times between March and June without finding student interns so I do not see how this could possibly be Apples fault. Again, not knowledgeable so won't say more.
@@redcaoimh3127 Additionally (and I am in no way very deep in the music industry but I do build mobile applications) and I have noticed an extreme correlation between people in creative pursuits such as music production and owning of Apple products. I find it strange that even 10% of their "customer base" use anything but iOS and macOS. Finally, if I were to build a production studio I would not even consider Android due to the technical challenges of building audio enabled applications for the platform, which are non-existent on iOS. Not a fanboy, I use and build for both. But it seems very reasonable that if you are going to build something like TE has you're only going to focus on iOS as the cost-benefit ration is much lower. If you are serious about producing music (which you arguably have to be to spend hundreds of dollars for a synth/sequencer) on a mobile OS you most likely have already invested in one of Apple's products. There are hardly any serious producing efforts on Android. But hey, I hope TE proves me wrong and engineers something brilliant for Android. I just wouldn't want to be on that engineering team :)
@@louissmit2220 suppose it comes down to trust with that story. Do you trust a PR employee of a TNC who's job is to protect the brand, an auditor of a TNC which like many auditors are too close to the business they're meant to regulate or do you trust an NGO who has discovered these practices in one of Apples suppliers, albeit a new supplier? I trust the NGO. TNCs and MNCs are very good at creating plausible deniablity (oh and tax evasion) on workers rights and pay by the way they structure their businesses so it never comes back to their door but to the suppliers, even tho its ultimately them that make the vast profits from the brand because of such practices.
@@LukeLoeffler Exactly, I thought the phone was just a display avenue. Louis and whoever please enlighten us as to how the display degrades latency ? Thanks. Looking forward HEARING your responses. Thanks for giving us all such well informed information about the product since you know so much.
hello turbo, thank you for your opinion. we encourage you to try the item in question before labeling it overpriced. your experience may very well give you a second opinion.
That's an accurate description of every TE product. "Hey you! Wanna pay $500-$1000 for something you could do more easily, more effectively and for free on your computer? I've got just the product for you!"
You think this is expensive? Hell, the OP-1 is almost 10 years old and still costs a whopping $999... It's a very versatile, fun to use synth and lots of professional musicians use it, but it's ridiculously overpriced.
@@8BitMunky Hello hello. Yes after looking at the price it is a reasonable price. The Opi-1 was priced well when it was first released. It is a very clever piece of kit. No velocity sensitive keys are a downside but overall a good product. Now it it starting to look overpriced as time goes by. It should be reduced to at least £500 UK pounds.
you don't need to. possibly someone around you has one and you can then team up so you could get a sense of it yourself. you don't need to but you may want to. thanks for your support!
@@teenageengineering Using other's smart phones are very dangerous idea. That is a security risk. Never use those words you replied. I can't believe this.
If you guys could build one that didn’t Double trigger and warp that would be great, this is one of the greatest devices ever made but one of the shittiest builds I’ve ever seen on an instrument
Please tell me y’all do give aways somewhere... I’m a civil engineering student and will not be able to a quality synth for another few years. Lottery and prayer is my best bet... for now
At least build the app for high end Android devices like, Pixel, Samsung and Huawei. Make it only available for them. Pixel devices at least .. Software and hardware made by Google.
hello david, thank you very much for your comment. if you are into deep sequencing and portable music making in general, then we believe you are truly missing out, if dismissing OP-Z without having had a personal hands-on experience with it. if you've had a chance to test it and realised that it is not for you, then so be it, everyone has different needs and wants. the 'is this a toy?' argument has been applied by a lot of people on our products, since day one. this is ok and we will continue to push boundaries and challenge conventions. toy or not is irrelevant, as long as an instrument, or any object, offers enough value. maybe some day drop by one of our free music making workshops, and we can show you everything the OP-Z is capable of. then you can easily judge if it offers enough value in your life to motivate an investment. thanks for taking the time to read this. take care and have a good one!
When I saw a debut of it in 2016 in a namm video, they called it the OP-“Zed” which I took as zero, meaning less than 1, it’s not an OP-2, it’s like rolling out an iPod mini, it’s not meant to be better, just smaller and less capable.
Only bringing this on IOS is unbelievably dumb. Are you only appealing to rich people with to much money? Yeah that sounds like so many musicians. Don't get me wrong i love teenage engineering, the op1, and this is probably also cool but this makes no sense for me. And then the sentence that everybody should have it in there pocket, wtf?! Seriously?!? Are you mocking your customers or what is this?!
@@KRBY555 yeah ok I understand that, but then just say that's the reason for it to only be on IOS and don't say everybody should have it in their pockets. That's a weird statement and not true. Also they could bring it out for windows, that should be no problem,i hope they are doing that as soon as possible
hey seaZon all good, as an audio/midi sequencer and synthesizer it really does not need any display at all. 'most likely' is as far as we stretched it in this case and please do not be offended, life is too short for that. hopefully we can bring it out to as many platforms as possible, soon enough. any new ones will be announced through our website.
@@teenageengineering ok, thx for the answer. I looked a bit more into the op-Z now and yeah, it doesn't really need a display :) . Currently I'm happy with the op1 but it definitely looks interesting for the future especially if you bring software out for other platforms. I think I did calm down a bit. What triggered me was just, that the video felt like it's the most normal thing to just have it for Apple devices. Anyway I still like what products you are inventing, so keep that up ^^
So you went from the OP-1 which I still think is awesome, to a OP-1 mini with no screen unless your part of the Apple cult. I'm glad I waited 2 years to be disapointed by Teenage Engineering, I'll just wait another 3 years until they cave in and support Google Pixels.
It's standalone features are amazing,what are you talking about?You don't NEED a screen,if you are willing to learn how to use it(just like any other quirky synth),you'll be adapt to it.😒😒
This is useless without Android support. I just lost all interest in your product. It's kind of a big deal for A LOT of people. I hope you guys reconsider your approach.
Many music apps only exclusive in ios.Look,I am an android user and I know that android isn't really into music.That's the strong point for owning an IOS device imho.
After seeing people talk about their devices on the internet for the last few years I'm pretty sure TE's target market is people who don't know what they're doing and don't realize their products don't do anything you couldn't do more easily on your computer, and people who just like to hop trends and spend money. Never once seen any person make a case for why you would actually need any product they make. OP-1 was %100 a fad product with no utility for anyone who already has a DAW.
ah thank you for your input. we assure you though, once you've met any of the thousands of people, young and old alike, who has had their lives changed due to experience with these products, you'd have a wider perspective. enjoy your time man zeb. hey you got it in your name already... OP-Zeb. peace!
i use a pocket operator all the time and ive been an ableton user for years. its streamlined workflow helps me sketch out ideas way faster than i usually can with a daw. it encourages me to write different kinds of music that utilize its features
@@teenageengineering "thousands of people, young and old alike, who has had their lives changed due to experience with these products" Cue the cutesy corporate advert Ukulele and Glockenspiel music. "TE changing lives" *sniffs own fart*.
@@BarnacleButtock It works perfectly without iPhone or Android (not supported at the moment) ... And then, I think that few of us do not have a smartphone yet.
You know, I haven't the first clue as to how to make awesome things come out of this, but I'm certain awesome things can indeed come from this and other things from teenage engineering. You've got my subscription. Hopefully I can buy something from you guys soon.
Guys, I get it. I'm an Android guy too but don't make the mistake to think that this device is useless without an iOS device. It's standalone features are 99% of the whole thing and its THE BOMB (from what I've seen). So yes. TE please give us an Android app, but also be fair to TE as in this is not made for Apple users per se.
Xaser, thanks a lot for your support. here is the android app finally: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
God bless you teenage engineering
I can say this thing is a million times better in person. Utter perfection. Don't listen to the haters
i cant say how good it is in person.... because i dont have one :(...... yet
Giulio Personeni why is it not a great product? Whats wrong about it?
@@bluebaconjake405 build quality.
@@tillmannkleint6308 circuitry.
OK, you've got me again. I sold my OP-1 a few months ago because the Tape-Record-Method wasn't mine and I stopped loving it. Now I saw a few videos on the OP-Z (Hello, Cuckoo & Magpie) and I instantly fell in love. I ordered the OP-Z yesterday and it seems to me that this time the love will last. Keep up the good work. :)
thank you for your support!
Dear TE....what Fantastic Machine! I use it every day and It has inspired me to make lots of music and be creatieve...I have 1 request...please add a sample import function to the app....that would make it even more portable...
the best thing about this from what ive seen so far are the effects they are the only thing that make this hardware tablewave vst produce some interesting timbers
One step forwards, two steps back. The best part of the OP-1 for me is using it on trips and on public transport. It sits perfectly on my lap, with a very nice integrated screen showing me what is happening. The aluminum keys feel great too, like a mechanical keyboard. Now, I have to balance a secondary screen (Apple only) or rely on remembering what all the LED combos mean unless I want to get lost in menu diving, and what are these buttons? Little plastic clickers? Disks for knobs? Idk, it looks like it does a lot of cool stuff, total powerhouse and all, but the design just feels archaic compared to the OP-1. I hope it's what other people want, but it's definitely not for me.
It all comes together pretty quickly. I've only had it a day and am getting the hang of the interface. It also comes with a little iPhone rack holder if needed.
don't knock it 'til you try it guys! might be surprised! thanks for your input! peace
it looks like this is supposed to be a more cost-effective alternative to the OP-1
Hi, I was able to get my hands on the second batch and I assure you that it is much more intuitive and fun than it may seem ... No problem to play with in transport, toilets or in your bed ... Dirsk for knobs is absolutelly awesome.
Screen is optional :t his can help learn the beast at first. Personally, I really feel that this machine has been long thought with love.
teenageengineering too bad you guys discontinued the OP-1 we wanted to purchase 4 for the studios but this OP-Z has too many compromises. Not smart leaving money on the table.
Teenage engineering made you a brand new device filled with tools both amazing and bizarre. If it’s anything like the OP-1, which my guess, it is in ways- you know you’d find your own unique and creative way to utilize it. It’s the craziest Swiss Army knife you’ll ever own.
No Android or Windows support?
Too hipster for that.
Yeah, I've been trying to clear that up with them for wks!! Given up with it now!! Thought at first they cudn't be so daft to make it only compatible with apple platforms but it seems they have been! No thanks TE, I'm not buying apple! Oh and to get a new Op1...tis impossible in UK at moment ! Piss poor.
Wow it's a useless piece of shit. And it costs 500 $?
how is this a useless piece of shit? I think this is more useful than my 2000$ MPC X.
Red Caoimh I nearly bought one (OP1) last year. I had a deposit on one but it got delayed twice. In the meantime Elektron launched the Digitakt so I snapped one up instead. Then the Octatrak Mk2, then the Analog4 mkii, then the Digitone. A month ago a put a deposit on the OPZ, I'm 9th in the Queue so it may be close to Xmas before I get mine.
This looks like a nice upgrade to the Pocket Operator line of products - a standalone tool for making short or improvisational music in a specific range of styles. It's more flexible though, capable of a wider range of sounds and more complex sequences.
Probably not very useful as part of a larger studio though. It seems designed to play alone, and has some pretty hard limits. So probably best for musicians who are starting out or want a very minimalist style. It's in an odd niche somewhere above music toys but not really up to the level of professional instruments.
So... If people view it as a Super Pocket Operator, they'll love it. But if compared to a DAW or a mod tracker or a Digitakt+Digitone or a table of synths, people will find it falls short. Depends on expectations.
you're right toykeeper, thanks for your support. we love it!
I get a lot of mileage out of my OP-1. It's kind of a jack of all trades, master of none. Since it does a bit of everything, it's versatile and useful for filling gaps. And it's particularly useful as a sketch pad. I tend to draft songs there before making the full version, like sketching an image on paper before painting it on canvas.
Would be really handy to have eight 12-minute tracks though, instead of four 6-minute tracks. And no electrical noise when plugged into USB. Those are the two main limitations I run into with it.
It's physical more flexible. They arrive bent.
Can’t wait for the OP-Z!!!!!!!
Ha, I just saw you at Loop on the roof. Like I said Tobias, once I got one in my hands, I got it.
great to hear josh! hope you liked it!
It looks fantastic and it is something I'd happily have alongside my OP-1 but the deal breaker is the insistence of only using iOS / MACOS devices as the screen. I can't think of a single sensible reason that it is so restricted and as I will never own an Apple device, it looks like I'll be ignoring this otherwise brilliant instrument. Seeing as this is mainly a GUI you've provided, please implement an Android compatible screen mode and I'll almost throw my money at you!
Because they have to remake the software for Android and that will take a while and It's already been delayed so much.
Maybe, but at least some assurance that the software would ever be written and subsequently made available would be nice. When 5 out of every 6 mobile phone owners have an Android device, this is a glaring oversight and a massive chunk of the market currently ignored. I also get that you can't cater for every Android device but aiming for the top handsets would be a start.
I have a great Idea @teenageengineering: make an upscaled version of OP-Z that's about a size of Yamaha's Seqtrack. I love my OP-Z but I'd really like bigger buttons and sturdier body with bigger battery. You don't even need to make any changes in the software - just make OP-Z bigger in size, it will help to play it easily and even redo buttons - make them computer-clicky. The price will stay the same and people will order new OP-Zs like crazy, including me!
waiting for mine currently .... just hope to have all my buttons sit in the device perfectly ... something like those 2 buttons above the "4", i think it is the arpegiator and channel button are askew in their slot ... OCD kicks in
I will never ever have IPhone in my pocket. You really should invest the resources to build an android version of your app, or a huge amount of customers will only get half of this genuinely amazing product.
yes, we get it. thanks for your support!
@@teenageengineering lol u guys seem fed up with these comments. Truth is shit like this just works better on ios.
@@luka9843 Id like to see you write a unity app and say that again. Its very easily adaptable to multiple systems.
@@F1n1337isnt unity a game engine and not a music app engine
Hi! Can you import your own samples? Can you import video or the equivalent in unity? Can you use the BLE to sequence iOS apps?
I just read that yes you can "easily import your own samples." Nice!
yes. yes. yes.
I adore my OP-Z.
That's so cool! I need one!
guys, it's about time you address the double trigger situation, improve the build quality or lower the price tag.. i was about to buy it until i learned it lasts two years max. imagine all the people who bought a used one... i love u but this isn't a great look
the double trigger situation can be fixed with deoxit, but other than that, I agree with you, hoping for an op-z field without these issues!
Can we use op-z with wireless headset or BT 5.0 is only for IOS app ?
Teenage engineering can you add a feature to the op-z where are you can you Multiple pages of sounds are you change between the pages by holding track And hitting + Will go to the next page and hitting - while holding track Will go back a Page .
holding track and pressing - or + will shift all steps of the current track back and forth. so that combo is taken. not quite sure what you want to do. if you want quick access to a lot of different parameters then perhaps you could get that by using an external controller. if you mean something else then please try to specify and we can maybe come up with a suggestion. thanks for your support!
teenageengineering What about track ,play, + or - and Will change the page and you can add sounds on the different pages ?
not sure what you mean. if you want you could try to explain your idea a little bit clearer and start a conversation with our support team. maybe even send a video of yourself explaining it if it's hard to put in writing. we could then forward it to the developers. support.teenage.engineering
anyway, thanks for your creativity and support!
Where can I get a replacement battery??? Website’s been out for > 2 years!! Please!
It would’ve been great that the OP-Z has a Midi IN port or usb for using a proper keyboard
it does over usb. it even has usb host so you can connect a midi keyboard straight to OP-Z for plug and play.
teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/usb
is IS the dream machine!
Looks great, would love to see Android and PC support though.
ya thats the only thing stoping me from picking one up right now
hello, here is the android app: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
Will it bend in time and start to do double triggers?
Looks like trying to figure out ancient hieroglyphs. I still can't figure out the po33 ha.
the po33 is easy af to use tho if you open up the guide
Yea it’s super fun and easy
Just got mine.. Yippee. The Battery lasted about 3 hours out the box. Anyone know how long you are supposed to recharge it, please? Dont worry I found the answer myself.. solid green. I read the manual.
lol
nice
It is not "most likely" to have an iPhone in your pocket.
yeah that's some bourgeois shit right there "everybody can afford an iphone, right?"
@@gloverelaxis Well, if android didn't have such a shit audio system, there'd be heaps of music apps available. Try playing with a drumming app on your android and you'll be just as frustrated as I have been with it.
android has way better audio than ios
@@YasinHasan you have no idea. I have an Android phone but it's well known how bad the latency is. Get a drum app, whack the drums with your fingers and the sound will come after the sound your finger made on the screen. This is reflected in every app. iOS has very little latency and makes music apps usable on mobile.
The OP-Z app doesn't output any audio however... it just provides a GUI for the device
Apple vs Android in the comments. Dope looking piece of gear, and I dig how functional it is. I couldn't see myself using it for all that it's purposed for so I'm considering the OP-1 over the OP-Z...if I can find one.
A fire is lit because TE chose one platform over the other.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
Hi Teenage Engineering, out of curiousity, are you able to use bluetooth headphones with the OPZ? or only wired options
So, apart of buying a 600$ machine I had so much hipe on, now I also have to buy another machine which costs 600$ despite the fact it's one of the oldes designs currently "supported"?
I know I can use it without the external screen aka mobile phone... But what about the plug-ins?
I heard the battery life is about 3hours. Are you guys flying over the Atlantic on the international Space Station ?
Obviously you've heard something wrong then.
Adzix // VVLV
Hope so too. But I did have confirmation from two owners. One managed to get 5:30 hours out off the battery. It seems to be short from the “4 Times back and forth over the Atlantic”
Are you from teenager engineering? Can you confirm the more or less 48 hour battery life
Thanks
I wish there was audio out over usb! When I tried to record my ipad air via headphone out the signal was quite weak. Is this substantially better?
audio over usb is now present. (going through some older comments to reflect updated firmware, thanks!)
Duuuuuuude. I need this.
TE made the battery life short and the battery replaceable so they can sell spare batteries for big bucks. TE is smart, be like TE!
They will surely surpass Apple.
Android support would be amazing
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google play: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
what is mode sice 0:51? how can i take such display mode??
this is a section of the free OP-Z app called 'motion' and it is a preset videopak made in unity 3d. read more about it here: teenage.engineering/products/op-z/videolab
download the free companion app here:
ios: apps.apple.com/app/op-z/id1088232296
mac: apps.apple.com/app/op-z/id1098190457
google play: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
Sold! Where can I get one? 😉
sign up to get notified here: teenage.engineering/products/op-z or check with your local reseller. thanks a lot for the support!
This looks very cool. I don’t think i could give up my OP-1 for this though. Part of me wants this but it’s still quite a pit of money...and it’s plastic with no screen. Should be called the ‘PO-Z.’
Velocity sens “keys”?
no, not internally, however respond to external velocity, and you can use the front-side pitchbend to control velocity per step.
So, not even windows pc? if I want to transfer sounds (i don't have iOS device) it can't be done with windows?!
oh sure it can! teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/disk-modes#import-sounds
@@teenageengineering thanks for the answer, this is less bad. How about Android app, is it possible to let us know if its on the road map? My purchase is dependent on that.
Is the app also for Android ?
yes, sure thing. support.teenage.engineering/hc/en-us/articles/360011493874-OP-Z-is-there-an-Android-app-
@@teenageengineering Thank you 👍❤️😆🎹 then it makes sense to buy a OP-Z .🤩
Needs an Android or windows app
it looks neat, but is OP-1 discontinued now?
thanks. OP-1 is still in production and remains our premium product. OP-1 and OP-Z are very different and can work well together.
thanks for the reply. i was just asking because i wanted to buy one and it seems it's worldwide unavailable atm. are there any production issues or do you guys work on OP-1 ver. 2 or whats the problem?
HOLA QUIEREN PONER UNA TIENDA EN MORELIA MICHOACAN, MEXICO TENEMOS EL LUGAR PERFECTO SON BIENVENIDOS NOS ENCANTAN SUS PRODUCCTOS
The whole vibe from this video is, “Hanzel… He’s so hot right now.”
I cannot decide between a OP-Z and a KO2. The wife not gonna be happy and I might sleep on the couch for a couple of days, but both it's gonna be.
Awesome=)
Tebias your damn genius!!!
I want the song pleasee
this is one of the preset projects in OP-Z
So much unnecessary flak for only supporting iOS. TE can build for whoever the hell they want. Android (great os) has intrinsic issues with audio latency due to the virtual nature of the
operating system. That's why most serious mobile production suites only target iOS. Kindly stop and think before making a mess of the comments. Brilliant addition to the TE line by the way.
@Louis Smith it's not unnecessary flak. Nobody is saying they can't build for who they like. Everyone here loves what TE does and like myself have probably been waiting for ages to get a hold of their new bit of kit...only to be disappointed it's compatible with apple products only. Born of frustration nothing else. Please check today's headlines about students being forced to work in apple factories in China. Also, surely you've heard of the suicide nets around their other factories. Yes they can build for who they want, but to alienate over 50% of a potential customer base is pretty strange from a business point of view. I, like others, want it, but we can't have it.
@@redcaoimh3127 That's an interesting point you make. And I won't make any statements on the China thing as I am not knowledgeable on that and I won't be able to make a useful contribution. Just quickly googling it, however, I saw a statement from Apple spokeswoman Wei Gu: “We are urgently investigating the report that student interns added in September are working overtime and night shifts.” The supplier and had also been audited three times between March and June without finding student interns so I do not see how this could possibly be Apples fault. Again, not knowledgeable so won't say more.
@@redcaoimh3127 Additionally (and I am in no way very deep in the music industry but I do build mobile applications) and I have noticed an extreme correlation between people in creative pursuits such as music production and owning of Apple products. I find it strange that
even 10% of their "customer base" use anything but iOS and macOS. Finally, if I were to build a production studio I would not even consider Android due to the technical challenges of building audio enabled applications for the platform, which are non-existent on iOS. Not a fanboy, I use and build for both. But it seems very reasonable that if you are going to build something like TE has you're only going to focus on iOS as the cost-benefit ration is much lower. If you are serious about producing music (which you arguably have to be to spend hundreds of dollars for a synth/sequencer) on a mobile OS you most likely have already invested in one of Apple's products. There are hardly any serious producing efforts on Android. But hey, I hope TE proves me wrong and engineers something brilliant for Android. I just wouldn't want to be on that engineering team :)
@@louissmit2220 suppose it comes down to trust with that story. Do you trust a PR employee of a TNC who's job is to protect the brand, an auditor of a TNC which like many auditors are too close to the business they're meant to regulate or do you trust an NGO who has discovered these practices in one of Apples suppliers, albeit a new supplier? I trust the NGO. TNCs and MNCs are very good at creating plausible deniablity (oh and tax evasion) on workers rights and pay by the way they structure their businesses so it never comes back to their door but to the suppliers, even tho its ultimately them that make the vast profits from the brand because of such practices.
@@LukeLoeffler Exactly, I thought the phone was just a display avenue. Louis and whoever please enlighten us as to how the display degrades latency ? Thanks. Looking forward HEARING your responses. Thanks for giving us all such well informed information about the product since you know so much.
Coool lets take out another bank loan for this piece of kit
At least it'll still be cheaper than the OP-1.
Hey, at least it’s LEGIT. And not some 30 bucko piano
dont be a jerry
save your money!! Bank loan for $600??
ya!
It seems pretty cool but (not tried yet) also overpriced for what it is. Unlike Pocket operators which are very reasonably priced.
hello turbo, thank you for your opinion. we encourage you to try the item in question before labeling it overpriced. your experience may very well give you a second opinion.
@@teenageengineering I would love to :) now into POs first.
No, they are not. Flimsy pieces of circuit board with useless screen and cheap sound cost like smartphones.
lemmie get an opz with a little matrix screen like the pocket operator has. then i dont care at all about the apple only limitations
Excuse my ignorance but why would anyone even need this? its hip and cool and nerdy but thats about it. I can bet its way over priced as well.
That's an accurate description of every TE product. "Hey you! Wanna pay $500-$1000 for something you could do more easily, more effectively and for free on your computer? I've got just the product for you!"
You think this is expensive? Hell, the OP-1 is almost 10 years old and still costs a whopping $999... It's a very versatile, fun to use synth and lots of professional musicians use it, but it's ridiculously overpriced.
@@8BitMunky Hello hello. Yes after looking at the price it is a reasonable price. The Opi-1 was priced well when it was first released. It is a very clever piece of kit. No velocity sensitive keys are a downside but overall a good product. Now it it starting to look overpriced as time goes by. It should be reduced to at least £500 UK pounds.
DeadlyPsyduck
Still cheaper than racks of analog synth gear. Much more portable too.
But I don't have a smart phone.
you don't need to. possibly someone around you has one and you can then team up so you could get a sense of it yourself. you don't need to but you may want to. thanks for your support!
@@teenageengineering Using other's smart phones are very dangerous idea. That is a security risk. Never use those words you replied. I can't believe this.
the app isn't required. It allows you to swap sounds and give you a GUI, but the opz can operate standalone
@@badfoodfeet oh, standalone. Then this new one is lower profile than op-1 cause this one doesn't have a screen on it?
@@Jeremy-su3xy I think that's the idea
Julie Garden
🆒🙏👌👍
hey man, thanks for checking in! :)
progressive
Thompson Burgs
If you guys could build one that didn’t Double trigger and warp that would be great, this is one of the greatest devices ever made but one of the shittiest builds I’ve ever seen on an instrument
No Windows sup after this long drag? Hmm...
Please tell me y’all do give aways somewhere... I’m a civil engineering student and will not be able to a quality synth for another few years. Lottery and prayer is my best bet... for now
Fay Curve
Abigail Skyway
At least build the app for high end Android devices like, Pixel, Samsung and Huawei. Make it only available for them. Pixel devices at least .. Software and hardware made by Google.
hello eddie, yup thanks for the input. here it is: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
Am I missing something here? This toy is £500?!!!! :-O
hello david, thank you very much for your comment. if you are into deep sequencing and portable music making in general, then we believe you are truly missing out, if dismissing OP-Z without having had a personal hands-on experience with it. if you've had a chance to test it and realised that it is not for you, then so be it, everyone has different needs and wants.
the 'is this a toy?' argument has been applied by a lot of people on our products, since day one. this is ok and we will continue to push boundaries and challenge conventions. toy or not is irrelevant, as long as an instrument, or any object, offers enough value. maybe some day drop by one of our free music making workshops, and we can show you everything the OP-Z is capable of. then you can easily judge if it offers enough value in your life to motivate an investment. thanks for taking the time to read this. take care and have a good one!
McKenzie Locks
トバイアスさん！
When I saw a debut of it in 2016 in a namm video, they called it the OP-“Zed” which I took as zero, meaning less than 1, it’s not an OP-2, it’s like rolling out an iPod mini, it’s not meant to be better, just smaller and less capable.
not meant to be better, just budget*
@@chuuisinsane cheaper and smaller are two things that are better about it, and that's ok
@@jama211 true but from what i gather it does less than the OP-1
Lynch Station
Sauer Pass
ZED.
Only bringing this on IOS is unbelievably dumb. Are you only appealing to rich people with to much money? Yeah that sounds like so many musicians. Don't get me wrong i love teenage engineering, the op1, and this is probably also cool but this makes no sense for me. And then the sentence that everybody should have it in there pocket, wtf?! Seriously?!? Are you mocking your customers or what is this?!
Android system can't handle it. Why do you think there are no good DAWs on Android?
@@KRBY555 yeah ok I understand that, but then just say that's the reason for it to only be on IOS and don't say everybody should have it in their pockets. That's a weird statement and not true. Also they could bring it out for windows, that should be no problem,i hope they are doing that as soon as possible
hey seaZon all good, as an audio/midi sequencer and synthesizer it really does not need any display at all. 'most likely' is as far as we stretched it in this case and please do not be offended, life is too short for that. hopefully we can bring it out to as many platforms as possible, soon enough. any new ones will be announced through our website.
@@teenageengineering ok, thx for the answer. I looked a bit more into the op-Z now and yeah, it doesn't really need a display :) . Currently I'm happy with the op1 but it definitely looks interesting for the future especially if you bring software out for other platforms. I think I did calm down a bit. What triggered me was just, that the video felt like it's the most normal thing to just have it for Apple devices. Anyway I still like what products you are inventing, so keep that up ^^
Yost Island
So you went from the OP-1 which I still think is awesome, to a OP-1 mini with no screen unless your part of the Apple cult. I'm glad I waited 2 years to be disapointed by Teenage Engineering, I'll just wait another 3 years until they cave in and support Google Pixels.
It's standalone features are amazing,what are you talking about?You don't NEED a screen,if you are willing to learn how to use it(just like any other quirky synth),you'll be adapt to it.😒😒
@@qas2644 So you can use the OP-Z to it's full ability without a screen?
shame it bends
This is useless without Android support. I just lost all interest in your product. It's kind of a big deal for A LOT of people. I hope you guys reconsider your approach.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012
Florence Islands
Meta View
Russ Points
Armstrong Union
Fuck this, release it also for Android users, do you guys think we can all afford a fucking iPhone?
I will never have an iPhone in my pocket. I think this comes from the same disconnect they had with getting Bluetooth on the OD-11. Unnecessary purity
500 dollar / midi keyboard 100 max chose wisely
I don't support companies that don't support Android ✌️
we respect that statement. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012 👌
The device I most likely have in my pocket? Nah.. I'm not that dumb.
For You Aussies: OB-Z-E
LOL Teenage Engineering goes full Apple fanboy. Fail.
Le epic fail xDdd
no, we stand alone. :) peace!
Many music apps only exclusive in ios.Look,I am an android user and I know that android isn't really into music.That's the strong point for owning an IOS device imho.
ios in the toilet
---apple---
After seeing people talk about their devices on the internet for the last few years I'm pretty sure TE's target market is people who don't know what they're doing and don't realize their products don't do anything you couldn't do more easily on your computer, and people who just like to hop trends and spend money. Never once seen any person make a case for why you would actually need any product they make. OP-1 was %100 a fad product with no utility for anyone who already has a DAW.
ah thank you for your input. we assure you though, once you've met any of the thousands of people, young and old alike, who has had their lives changed due to experience with these products, you'd have a wider perspective. enjoy your time man zeb. hey you got it in your name already... OP-Zeb. peace!
i use a pocket operator all the time and ive been an ableton user for years. its streamlined workflow helps me sketch out ideas way faster than i usually can with a daw. it encourages me to write different kinds of music that utilize its features
@@teenageengineering "thousands of people, young and old alike, who has had their lives changed due to experience with these products" Cue the cutesy corporate advert Ukulele and Glockenspiel music. "TE changing lives" *sniffs own fart*.
"we call it: 1500$... For now. Just wait until we update it for 120$ more, in two years"
it's USD 599.-
@@teenageengineering... Without a screen, or android support. So once Android is added, 799?
@@BarnacleButtock It works perfectly without iPhone or Android (not supported at the moment) ... And then, I think that few of us do not have a smartphone yet.
@annabelleshaus here is android support. still USD 599.- play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012