I got one of these earlier this year, and a coworker ordered one too. very happy. Mine was an upgraded package that addressed almost all your concerns. The whole kit fit into a plastic carry case with custom cut foam inside. and it held the abrasives, including strops that fit into the holder and came with the level of kit I got. Great review. Also if you plan to use it for smaller knives, take a look at their other clamps that would make your life easier. Also I use plasti-dip on my clamps instead of taping every knife and it was worked well so far.
@@GreenBeetle it's a liquid plastic coating. Comes in lots of colors. Spray or 'dip'. I use the dip method. It can be easily peeled off and re done if it wears out. Amazon or most hardware stores I've been to have it.
Awesome looking product and I take your word for how good it is. I would pay for the tool if I really had a use for it. I end up losing pocket knives and I don't have any other type. I'm cheap because I rarely use a knife of any sort. If I was still into hunting and fishing; my knife collection would be such that I would use the tool. Thanks for the promo.
I just ordered one of these on black Friday. I was working with the worksharp precision adjust basic kit so this should be a tiny bit of an upgrade. I was able to get the KO3 kit with the diamond stones for $378 shipped
didnt know about tsprof before i bought worksharp adjust pro really regretting it now will be purchasing the k03 hunter .looks absolutely beautifull craftsmanship .
I use this exact sharpener the only thing i modified on it was drilling it and bolting it to my bench it moved around ever so slightly with the g clamp they sent
That's awesome Steve, I am definitely jelly, Lol! I've wanted one of those for a long time, but I just never could afford one. If my health ever improves to where I can get back into my shop I've had thoughts on trying to fabricate one for myself. At this point, it's just a wait-and-see what happens ordeal. Take care, stay safe, healthy, and prosperous, and enjoy that new sharpener
If you really want to do that, I notice a lot of vaguely similar stuff on AliExpress say, much cheaper of course. More to the point some of it is SOLD AS "DIY" stuff, it's just odd pieces of this kind of sharpener. It's a lot of shopping, there are at least fifty versions, proliferating wildly! There are some Chinese systems that use a regular big sharpening stone and move the knife! SO IF you have a pile of (say) Japanese waterstones you might not have to throw them away. Anyway, it looks like there is a lot of stuff being sold exactly for people who want to put something together themselves.
No experience with one, but I've long wanted to try it. From the first time I saw one, just looking at the thoughtful engineering convinced me that it's a better kit and a better bargain than any other high end unit. But first things first--my heart is set on a Work Sharp WS3000, cuz chisels and plane irons in addition to knives and scissors and what-not. Oh, and at half the price of the KO3. And tons of options by way of abrasives, since it's just a 6" flat wheel.
Pretty nice tool , I lucked up and found a Wasabi brand sharpener relatively the same design for 5 bucks at one of those Amazon returns stores and it works pretty well . I can’t justify 500 bucks
I have same system , i’m on 3rd year with mine , absolutely love mine . This system is the Grand Daddy of em all !!! Ps. watch simple little life vid , in regards to his trouble in understanding the angle pitch when moving away from pivot center axis .. it’s a interesting watch
I have used this sharpening system for over 7 years now. It gives the mixes edge of any other I have used. My only beef is that when upgrading, the components from one model to the next is incompatible. You almost have to buy the total tool assembly to upgrade. For a professional blade-smith, it us with the cost, but not for hobbiest knife makers and DIY blade sharpeners.
To be honest, have spent hundreds of $$$ over the years for knife sharpeners. My all time favorite was a $10 Arkansas stone at a garage sale 25 years ago.. May take a closer look at this one. Appreciate the review!
@Chuck Del Toro Agreed. My favorite is my fine Arkansas stones and not because I live in Arkansas. I have bought other systems trying to make sharpening easier, but nothing beats that singing sound of an Arkansas stone. Cheers
The right packaging would've been those tool foam trays you can buy and make fit your stuff, and since they make their own boxes, a piece of plywood and locating dowels would've been excellent and long lasting (well, as long as the tool foam lasts, i've seen them installed as far back as 12 years now, and there doesn't seem to be much damage so far).
i like seeing the two clamps for the knife.. it seems like it's like many of those mount off the counter top setups. only someone has listened to all of the complaints and hacks and it's finally come out with a solid tool . i love my carbide stones. they had a pretty long break in period on them but keeping them wet and clean. i like them. i just can't justify the price of the wicked edge . maybe if i sharpen knives for a living. $3 a knife i might have it paid off in two years. lots of nice machining on it . but $500 i don't know if that is a bargain or not. i think they can come down to 300-350 and they wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand. informative video i liked it
Most knife sharpeners aren’t designed to clean up long blades like kitchen knives. I remember when this came out and that’s the biggest problem it addressed. The stones are balanced well between size and longevity. Considering what a WE Pro costs and still how unfinished it is, the K03 is a great bargain.
How does the clamp/s work with knives that got swedges or a lot of facets on the spine? Is there rubber in the clamps (if not that should a quick fix with some vinyl or rubber). I have been wanting a TSProf for a while now, I just can't decide on what model to go with. Been considering the Kadett, but not decided. I want mine to be as easy as possible to set up and use, and take as little space as possible as I mostly will be sharpening folders on the system and some fixed blades. My kitchen knives I usually sharpen on whetstones.
7:11 on your other system, you could try using two rubber strips from a bicycle tube. Note, the rubber should be cleaned for maximum gripping power. If you don't have fear of acetone, wetting the strip in acetone makes it twice grippier than normal. I use it to secure my leather knife, which is basically paper thin, and would slip even in the best of sharpener holders.
Im just curious why have fear of acetone? I dont work in steel, i work in silver, which doesnt react with acetone under normal conditions. Is there something about certain steels that make them not be able to encounter acetone?
@@childofcascadia Har! I think the subject is Solvents v/s People! It's my understanding that Alcohol and Acetone can be metabolized, Acetone is commonly used because it's not as toxic as a dozen handy solvents you could easily name. BUT some people won't want anything to do with any such stuff!
Ha! Ok that makes sense then. I thought it was some kind of steel pickle technique that could only be used on certain steels. Acetones not that bad if you dont douse yourself in it, but I get it. I dont use Sparex #2 for a pickle solution for the reason of not wanting to constantly interact with toxic chemicals. I use industrial grade citric acid. You still dont want it on you, but its way safer, biodegradable, and easy to neutralize.
I've always wondered how systems like that maintain the correct bevel angle at the curved portion of the blade. Presumably the stone is free to rotate on the shaft and you have to live with a slight change of angle?
I have an edge pro and have haven't been all that satisfied with it. It's annoying to use for coarse sharpening or weird blade shapes that you find on pocket knives because you have to manually hold the blade in position. It also doesn't make a ton of sense for honing either when a spyderco triangle sharpmaker or a strop is just faster. So my expensive sharpener just sits and collects dust most of the time.
All these "sharpening devices" remind me of handsanding.... Sends chills up my spine, the horror, hahaha. Buying the jig for my grinder was worth 10 fold, I just don't have the patients😂😂 . Hope all is well, take it easy.
@@nickhadfield3192 I mean by that theory so does grinding post heat treat bevels. Ya do have to take it slow & learn pressure. I will say my grinder goes in reverse, that is the big issue, ya don't want the knife flying into your chest. Have you ever used your grinder? Not being a smart ass, just asking, cause I've sharpened a lot of knives this way. I see a lot of people giving advice without actually doing it. You aren't wrong, but not exactly right either. Just wondering, take it easy.
Hey Dave! I need to check one of those out at some point. I tried to use cork belts and even a 2x72 strop belt a long time ago but I didn’t take to them for some reason. 👍✊
Thanks for the review. I bought a Worksharp sharpener. Not impressed. I just could not get a "hair popping" edge I get with my wet stones. The unit you are using looks well built but also looks quite expensive. Hmmm, sticking to my wet stones I think. It works for me.
Go with what works! And what you enjoy. That’s important, being confident in your set up and getting satisfaction w using it. I love stones but my consistency isn’t there w them.
These types of systems are really very good for people who might not necessarily be great at sharpening or have high alloy, modern powder metallurgy stainless knives which are just a massive pain in the bum to sharpen. They do the job very well for those along with some more aggressive re-profiling of any old, worn out stuff. If you're a knife maker who does a lot of different metals or is looking for a baseline in performance in their geometry, its got the precision to at least get you started somewhere with a consistent edge bevel. Set your angle, test away on cardboard or rope or whacking it into logs, see how it works on other angles to what works.
My gratitude, fellow knife nerd, blade junkie friend. I am saving up to get the big tsprof sharpener and worksharp Ken Onion edition. Again, thank you. I love this info sharing nature of community.
It is glittering and metallic! It's more machined than it has to be! Stuff is "machined all over" and anodized, it's a presentation grade thing. I'm thinking of setting up at the Flea Market and just sharpen knives for the passers-by!
I bought some made strops for this, even though I have regular big strops. I got a bunch of them! Because I KNOW that I'm going to cut up one or two of them by accident! I am wondering if stropping on the EXACT ANGLE of the edge might be more effective, faster, avoid rounding off the edge? It's worth a try! And it's not like there's any shortage of magnifiers and microscopes sitting around! Screw using a marker! The MICROSCOPE shows you the truth!
What I dont like about these things is that, because it uses a single pivot point for the stone, the angle at which your sharpening changes for the entire length of the blade.
Not if the blade is straight. So the curve at the tip, yes it changes a little. Jeremy at Simple little life did a video on this a few years ago. The angle would change except that the length of the hypotenuse increases and decreases as the sharpening arm is moved.
@@GreenBeetle It would change specifically on the straight edge of a blade. The height of the pivot point stays the same, but when moving to the left or right on a straight line, the grinding surface will be moving farther from the center which would tighten the angle. In order for the grind angle to not change, the blade would need to be curved to match the circumference of a circle thats congruent with the distance from the edge to the center. Doing the math may prove it to be a negligible difference in most cases, but I can imagine it being significant on longer blades.
@@Mr6Sinner Definitely research this, because you were given the correct answer. You should challenge your preconception and actually go look at a test.
Taylor Hickman (I picked the following numbers at random. It’s been 7 months since this video and I don’t remember what was presented.) Imagine a 10” kitchen knife. For an ideal 20 degree edge at center, and with the edge 4” from the pivot, the grind arm will have to be placed 1.45” above the blade. With this set up it is 4.26” from the pivot to the blade edge. If we take the same measurements at the heel of the blade, which would be 5 inches tangential to the starting contact point (assuming the blade is perfectly straight), the 4” distance from blade edge to pivot point is now 6.4”. With the height remaining at 1.45”, the angle at which the grinding surface touches the blade is now at 12.77 degrees.
@@GreenBeetle 😆 It'll happen but I'm rly into axes for the time being. My forge is up and rdy to heat but currently looking for a new place so I'll avoid disturbing the neighborhood for the time left 😁
I don't see the point of calibrating the arm against the base at 2:45. The arm doesn't have to be level relative to the table. Even if they're not level against each other, the sharpening angle would not be affected.
Nobody who reviews these seems to use the full length of the stone when sharpening. Definitely try to get into the habit of doing that from the start, or you'll be spending more on stones than you need to.
They're in the catalog but out-o-stock right now I think. It's sort of "Y" shaped, so the thing engages both sides of the rotating mechanism but comes out as a single clamp that turns on the axis of rotation. They have one that's thin, and might allow for the Scandinavian grind? I'll get one when it's available just because it exists I guess.
@@leonardpearlman4017 Mine came with 2 thin clamps and one wide Y shaped clamp .. i find myself using the Y shaped clamp the most … great system… especially if ur like me and love to geek out on mirror finished razor sharp edges 😆
The thing I don't like about this design is that the angle changes the further away from the pivot point you're contacting the blade...so the more you swivel from center, the more you're getting away from your true angle. That shows especially well on that long flat bar you showed about 8 1/2 minutes in. Seems like a lot of fancy setup for something that could be accomplished (potentially better) with a simple stone or two.
It’s the same angle no matter how far from pivot because length of the arm changes to accommodate. Jeremy at simple little life did a video on this a while ago. I think the angle changes at the tip a bit going around the belly, though.
@@GreenBeetle Unless the actual height of the pivot changes, that's just not true. Pythagoras theorem. The height is a set value, so as you lengthen the distance from the upright, the other side gets longer too...and the angle changes. It might be minor, but it's there. Edit: I get what you're saying, but it only holds true while the edge stays straight. And at that end where the arm lengthens is where your blade usually curves.
I do not recommend buying this sharpener, I have ko3 pro hunter and kadet pro, although kadet pro has few less options, it is far more stable sharpener than k03 hunter. Ko3 Hunter main top swivel which holds the rod - always unscrews and as youre sharpening it always pop back and forth, you gotta always tighten the screw on it, if you tighen to tight swivel rotations will be rough and and create more resistance for turning as youre sharpening. Another flaw that is becoming very annoying is the bar that holds the miller clamps. No matter how much you tighten it, as you press against either left or right end of the knife while sharpening- it caused tiny dip on the edge of it even with light pressure, kadet pro doesn't have such issues, its clamps tightening has different mechanism but much more efficient and sturdy, im not happy with ko3 hunter sharpener, kadet pro is a better choice, even though it has few limits
I received mine on 08/30/22 and can't say it was so smooth of an assembly. The box had been dropped on the corner and the wooden crate was busted. The logistics company that TSPROF.US used to fulfill the order put the tsprof box inside of a larger box with virtually no packing and when I received it from UPS the shipping tape was busted on both ends . Long story short the mechanical angle gauge was bent pretty bad which I blame on the shipper but the fact that the thumb screws that hold the unit to the weighted base would only thread in by hand about one third of the way and had to be tightened the rest of the way with pliers leaves me to wonder just what kind of quality control issues the company has. I am not happy with my purchase.
Almost as good as the cement on my backstep! (just kidding). A very impressive review; nice and short. My pop could get his butcher knives sharper than any gadget I know, including the Wicked Edge, but for mugs like me the TSProf would be fantastic. I still, at 70, just use stones as I don't have the dough for one of these fixed angle systems. I get my knives pretty sharp for my needs but not razor sharp. I'd like to retain my fingers for as long as I can; slipped once cutting a potato and "holy moly" blood everywhere (and I didn't even feel it!) No more Rachmaninoff Number Four for me!!!
It’s more for the person that sells products on a regular basis, speeds the sharpening time while keeping a perfectly average edge. Allowing for more productivity, hobbyists are always better sticking to the basics I personally think it’s more fun anyways
CA just sent along about that, that I wasn't expecting. As I'm looking into restoring/maintaining what I have, and for a few friends, may not be the worst way to go. Buy once cry once, and all that. Though I liked the fold down features of the Kadet a little more, and the $355 price point pre tax/ship.
I understand these kinds of jigs but they really are sharpening on a whet stone without knowing how to really do it.thats all I really have to say about it
Very disappointed, you make cool knives in your videos and you opened the box with scissors. Real men go out of their way to find an excuse to use their knives.
Steve is just giving his take on the product, He has no incentive to sell the product to you. No special code or affiliate link so he doesn’t make any money if this video prompted a sale.
They sent me an affiliate code to use if I liked it. It’s in the description. It beats my more expensive wicked edge hands down so I already sold the wicked edge. My honest opinion is it’s the best sharpener I’ve ever owned. If I were more constant on stones I’d probably stick to those but I’m not.
Steve, you must be the only person on YT that understands reviewing a free product is still a paid promotion even though no cash was exchanged.
👍 it’s true
AvE has ranted about that as well. I thought this was pretty fair though.
Joshua Bardwell always inserts a disclaimer part in the beginning as well. But he reviews quadcopter stuff, so I guess none of you know him. 😬
@@GreenBeetle I have a question. Can this jig be used to file bevels for stock removal knives?
Thanks for the video Steve. I just purchased one from DLT and I'm looking forward to using it..
I’ve been debating getting one. Thanks for a very good video!
Very nice bit of kit, and it also makes Steve smarter! Win win!
Dang! 4 videos in the last week+?!? You’re on fire 😉
I got one of these earlier this year, and a coworker ordered one too. very happy. Mine was an upgraded package that addressed almost all your concerns. The whole kit fit into a plastic carry case with custom cut foam inside. and it held the abrasives, including strops that fit into the holder and came with the level of kit I got. Great review. Also if you plan to use it for smaller knives, take a look at their other clamps that would make your life easier. Also I use plasti-dip on my clamps instead of taping every knife and it was worked well so far.
What is this plastidip
@@GreenBeetle it's a liquid plastic coating. Comes in lots of colors. Spray or 'dip'. I use the dip method. It can be easily peeled off and re done if it wears out. Amazon or most hardware stores I've been to have it.
Kewl looking system, smart to send them out for popular people to review :)
Great sharpener. Thanks for sharing
Awesome looking product and I take your word for how good it is. I would pay for the tool if I really had a use for it. I end up losing pocket knives and I don't have any other type. I'm cheap because I rarely use a knife of any sort. If I was still into hunting and fishing; my knife collection would be such that I would use the tool. Thanks for the promo.
Wow! I want one! Very cool, Steve.
I just ordered one of these on black Friday. I was working with the worksharp precision adjust basic kit so this should be a tiny bit of an upgrade. I was able to get the KO3 kit with the diamond stones for $378 shipped
didnt know about tsprof before i bought worksharp adjust pro really regretting it now will be purchasing the k03 hunter .looks absolutely beautifull craftsmanship .
I use this exact sharpener the only thing i modified on it was drilling it and bolting it to my bench it moved around ever so slightly with the g clamp they sent
That's awesome Steve, I am definitely jelly, Lol!
I've wanted one of those for a long time, but I just never could afford one.
If my health ever improves to where I can get back into my shop I've had thoughts on trying to fabricate one for myself. At this point, it's just a wait-and-see what happens ordeal.
Take care, stay safe, healthy, and prosperous, and enjoy that new sharpener
If you really want to do that, I notice a lot of vaguely similar stuff on AliExpress say, much cheaper of course. More to the point some of it is SOLD AS "DIY" stuff, it's just odd pieces of this kind of sharpener. It's a lot of shopping, there are at least fifty versions, proliferating wildly! There are some Chinese systems that use a regular big sharpening stone and move the knife! SO IF you have a pile of (say) Japanese waterstones you might not have to throw them away. Anyway, it looks like there is a lot of stuff being sold exactly for people who want to put something together themselves.
@@leonardpearlman4017, Thank you for the information, I appreciate it! Have a great day!
No experience with one, but I've long wanted to try it. From the first time I saw one, just looking at the thoughtful engineering convinced me that it's a better kit and a better bargain than any other high end unit. But first things first--my heart is set on a Work Sharp WS3000, cuz chisels and plane irons in addition to knives and scissors and what-not. Oh, and at half the price of the KO3. And tons of options by way of abrasives, since it's just a 6" flat wheel.
I would love to see you make a damascus knife made from tool bits! You know, like torx and stuff. Keep up the great work, greetings from Norway!
Pretty nice tool , I lucked up and found a Wasabi brand sharpener relatively the same design for 5 bucks at one of those Amazon returns stores and it works pretty well . I can’t justify 500 bucks
I have same system , i’m on 3rd year with mine , absolutely love mine . This system is the Grand Daddy of em all !!! Ps. watch simple little life vid , in regards to his trouble in understanding the angle pitch when moving away from pivot center axis .. it’s a interesting watch
I have used this sharpening system for over 7 years now. It gives the mixes edge of any other I have used. My only beef is that when upgrading, the components from one model to the next is incompatible. You almost have to buy the total tool assembly to upgrade. For a professional blade-smith, it us with the cost, but not for hobbiest knife makers and DIY blade sharpeners.
Awesome testing and review, dude! 😃
It definitely seems like a fantastic sharpening system!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
To be honest, have spent hundreds of $$$ over the years for knife sharpeners. My all time favorite was a $10 Arkansas stone at a garage sale 25 years ago.. May take a closer look at this one. Appreciate the review!
Of the stones I use Arkansas are my favorite too. Lovely to look at and listen to. Need a super fine one when I get the money.
@Chuck Del Toro Agreed. My favorite is my fine Arkansas stones and not because I live in Arkansas. I have bought other systems trying to make sharpening easier, but nothing beats that singing sound of an Arkansas stone. Cheers
Looks like an excellent sharpener!
pricey but good
Great system I’d use it.
You can get the master kit that has a case & fits everything in perfectly. I have the Gen 3 wicked edge system & am very curious about this system.
Thats the one i wish i could afford.... one day i will.
Great and thorough review my man. I don't even make knives, but this sharpener and it's "subliminal messaging" makes me want to start! 😁👍🏽
The right packaging would've been those tool foam trays you can buy and make fit your stuff, and since they make their own boxes, a piece of plywood and locating dowels would've been excellent and long lasting (well, as long as the tool foam lasts, i've seen them installed as far back as 12 years now, and there doesn't seem to be much damage so far).
Very Nice!
Oohhh I want one
i like seeing the two clamps for the knife.. it seems like it's like many of those mount off the counter top setups. only someone has listened to all of the complaints and hacks and it's finally come out with a solid tool . i love my carbide stones. they had a pretty long break in period on them but keeping them wet and clean. i like them. i just can't justify the price of the wicked edge . maybe if i sharpen knives for a living. $3 a knife i might have it paid off in two years. lots of nice machining on it . but $500 i don't know if that is a bargain or not. i think they can come down to 300-350 and they wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand. informative video i liked it
I had the same thought about the price point. You’re right on w that. It’s so quality though it prob takes a pretty penny to make.
@@GreenBeetle i would never attempt i hate working with aluminum
Most knife sharpeners aren’t designed to clean up long blades like kitchen knives. I remember when this came out and that’s the biggest problem it addressed. The stones are balanced well between size and longevity. Considering what a WE Pro costs and still how unfinished it is, the K03 is a great bargain.
How does the clamp/s work with knives that got swedges or a lot of facets on the spine? Is there rubber in the clamps (if not that should a quick fix with some vinyl or rubber). I have been wanting a TSProf for a while now, I just can't decide on what model to go with. Been considering the Kadett, but not decided. I want mine to be as easy as possible to set up and use, and take as little space as possible as I mostly will be sharpening folders on the system and some fixed blades. My kitchen knives I usually sharpen on whetstones.
I fear someday soon the most amazing thing about this video will be those Aldi's prices.
7:11 on your other system, you could try using two rubber strips from a bicycle tube. Note, the rubber should be cleaned for maximum gripping power. If you don't have fear of acetone, wetting the strip in acetone makes it twice grippier than normal. I use it to secure my leather knife, which is basically paper thin, and would slip even in the best of sharpener holders.
Nice tip
Im just curious why have fear of acetone? I dont work in steel, i work in silver, which doesnt react with acetone under normal conditions.
Is there something about certain steels that make them not be able to encounter acetone?
@@childofcascadia Har! I think the subject is Solvents v/s People! It's my understanding that Alcohol and Acetone can be metabolized, Acetone is commonly used because it's not as toxic as a dozen handy solvents you could easily name. BUT some people won't want anything to do with any such stuff!
Ha! Ok that makes sense then. I thought it was some kind of steel pickle technique that could only be used on certain steels. Acetones not that bad if you dont douse yourself in it, but I get it. I dont use Sparex #2 for a pickle solution for the reason of not wanting to constantly interact with toxic chemicals. I use industrial grade citric acid. You still dont want it on you, but its way safer, biodegradable, and easy to neutralize.
Awesome
Could you use something like this to file in bevels?
I wonder about TS prof… I have WE the only thing I hate about it is the lower limits of the angle and the clamps
I've always wondered how systems like that maintain the correct bevel angle at the curved portion of the blade. Presumably the stone is free to rotate on the shaft and you have to live with a slight change of angle?
Angle changes a bit
Yep it changes
There are narrow stones available for curved sections.
I have an edge pro and have haven't been all that satisfied with it. It's annoying to use for coarse sharpening or weird blade shapes that you find on pocket knives because you have to manually hold the blade in position. It also doesn't make a ton of sense for honing either when a spyderco triangle sharpmaker or a strop is just faster. So my expensive sharpener just sits and collects dust most of the time.
Tape the clamps rather than the knife, change it every knife/grit if you'd like to (a bit much imoj)avoid x-contanimation.
All these "sharpening devices" remind me of handsanding.... Sends chills up my spine, the horror, hahaha. Buying the jig for my grinder was worth 10 fold, I just don't have the patients😂😂 . Hope all is well, take it easy.
For those that care about it, it definitely isn't a good idea to use a belt grinder, as it overheats the edge.
@@nickhadfield3192 I mean by that theory so does grinding post heat treat bevels. Ya do have to take it slow & learn pressure. I will say my grinder goes in reverse, that is the big issue, ya don't want the knife flying into your chest. Have you ever used your grinder? Not being a smart ass, just asking, cause I've sharpened a lot of knives this way. I see a lot of people giving advice without actually doing it. You aren't wrong, but not exactly right either. Just wondering, take it easy.
Hey Dave! I need to check one of those out at some point. I tried to use cork belts and even a 2x72 strop belt a long time ago but I didn’t take to them for some reason. 👍✊
@@GreenBeetle Yeah, honestly, I just use the trizact up to A30(maybe Norax A16), then strop on one of those Amazon specials already loaded.
Hi, not sure if this has been asked before, can these sharpeners do convex grind, or is this something only flexible band grinders can do? Thanks
Yes it can w accessory
Any suggestions for a good American made 2 x 72 belt grinder for beginners. Kinda lookin to cry once and be done but not over $4,000 🤔
Ameribrade
Thanks for the review.
I bought a Worksharp sharpener. Not impressed. I just could not get a "hair popping" edge I get with my wet stones. The unit you are using looks well built but also looks quite expensive. Hmmm, sticking to my wet stones I think. It works for me.
Go with what works! And what you enjoy. That’s important, being confident in your set up and getting satisfaction w using it. I love stones but my consistency isn’t there w them.
I think worksharps are great for getting a good edge fast and easily but not a good option if you want really really sharp.
@@Lucas12v Agreed.
He choped the prices of Aldi!
Definitely expensive but IMO worth it
These types of systems are really very good for people who might not necessarily be great at sharpening or have high alloy, modern powder metallurgy stainless knives which are just a massive pain in the bum to sharpen. They do the job very well for those along with some more aggressive re-profiling of any old, worn out stuff.
If you're a knife maker who does a lot of different metals or is looking for a baseline in performance in their geometry, its got the precision to at least get you started somewhere with a consistent edge bevel. Set your angle, test away on cardboard or rope or whacking it into logs, see how it works on other angles to what works.
Looks good and the price leaves a little sting but not excruciating. How about recurved blades or serrations? Do they have round or convex stones?
Haven’t seen those
My gratitude, fellow knife nerd, blade junkie friend. I am saving up to get the big tsprof sharpener and worksharp Ken Onion edition. Again, thank you. I love this info sharing nature of community.
I bought one very similar to that set up on Amazon for 60 bucks, it does work, however the ksprof system seems light years ahead with quality.
It is glittering and metallic! It's more machined than it has to be! Stuff is "machined all over" and anodized, it's a presentation grade thing. I'm thinking of setting up at the Flea Market and just sharpen knives for the passers-by!
but why the clamps don't just have high durometer rubber jaw inserts is confusing... for this price who wants to have to tape their knives?
I use the same damn model. Ain't it grand??
I'd buy one in a heartbeat if they had a way to do full flat grinds.
KME is the only one I know of that has the jaw for FFG's.
Hmmm. I didn’t know that about kme. I’m actually considering a kme currently. So that’s nice to know.
There are third party attachments available from Gritomatic that will clamp to ffg.
Hope there are not too many purchasers, due to the country of origin.
I bought some made strops for this, even though I have regular big strops. I got a bunch of them! Because I KNOW that I'm going to cut up one or two of them by accident! I am wondering if stropping on the EXACT ANGLE of the edge might be more effective, faster, avoid rounding off the edge? It's worth a try! And it's not like there's any shortage of magnifiers and microscopes sitting around! Screw using a marker! The MICROSCOPE shows you the truth!
What I dont like about these things is that, because it uses a single pivot point for the stone, the angle at which your sharpening changes for the entire length of the blade.
Not if the blade is straight. So the curve at the tip, yes it changes a little. Jeremy at Simple little life did a video on this a few years ago. The angle would change except that the length of the hypotenuse increases and decreases as the sharpening arm is moved.
@@GreenBeetle It would change specifically on the straight edge of a blade.
The height of the pivot point stays the same, but when moving to the left or right on a straight line, the grinding surface will be moving farther from the center which would tighten the angle.
In order for the grind angle to not change, the blade would need to be curved to match the circumference of a circle thats congruent with the distance from the edge to the center.
Doing the math may prove it to be a negligible difference in most cases, but I can imagine it being significant on longer blades.
@@Mr6Sinner Definitely research this, because you were given the correct answer. You should challenge your preconception and actually go look at a test.
@@Mr6Sinner That's incorrect, you have it backwards, the grind angle only changes w/ the curvature of the blade as Green beetle stated.
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(I picked the following numbers at random. It’s been 7 months since this video and I don’t remember what was presented.)
Imagine a 10” kitchen knife. For an ideal 20 degree edge at center, and with the edge 4” from the pivot, the grind arm will have to be placed 1.45” above the blade. With this set up it is 4.26” from the pivot to the blade edge.
If we take the same measurements at the heel of the blade, which would be 5 inches tangential to the starting contact point (assuming the blade is perfectly straight), the 4” distance from blade edge to pivot point is now 6.4”. With the height remaining at 1.45”, the angle at which the grinding surface touches the blade is now at 12.77 degrees.
So you’d pick this over a gen 3 wicked edge pro if price wasn’t a factor?
Yes
Would have been cool to see a finer grit.
Do you prefer this or the wicked edge?
This by a mile
And here I am watching you assemble and listening to you telling me how its looks more complicated than it is and thinking, it looks too complicated:(
It’s easy
@@GreenBeetle 😆 It'll happen but I'm rly into axes for the time being. My forge is up and rdy to heat but currently looking for a new place so I'll avoid disturbing the neighborhood for the time left 😁
You sold it well though, I'll have one 👌
Would be nice for reprofiling
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I don't see the point of calibrating the arm against the base at 2:45. The arm doesn't have to be level relative to the table. Even if they're not level against each other, the sharpening angle would not be affected.
Steve,
Looking to buy one here in Australia.
$2,700.
WTF'S going on $
🤔 I dunno
Looks great but at $1200 Au a bit beyond me
You must be looking at local prices, which also include local profits. Also from AU here, and about to import directly.
@@dexarok I didn't look very hard, who are you importing from and how much?
More like ludicrous speed.
Nobody who reviews these seems to use the full length of the stone when sharpening. Definitely try to get into the habit of doing that from the start, or you'll be spending more on stones than you need to.
That's a great observation and suggestion! Thanks! I'm on a pre-order for the K03 Pro Sharpening System.
Your kit should have came with a wide singular clamp for smaller blades .. would have been perfect for your edc knife …
The original ones did come with both clamp systems.
They're in the catalog but out-o-stock right now I think. It's sort of "Y" shaped, so the thing engages both sides of the rotating mechanism but comes out as a single clamp that turns on the axis of rotation. They have one that's thin, and might allow for the Scandinavian grind? I'll get one when it's available just because it exists I guess.
@@leonardpearlman4017 Mine came with 2 thin clamps and one wide Y shaped clamp .. i find myself using the Y shaped clamp the most … great system… especially if ur like me and love to geek out on mirror finished razor sharp edges 😆
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@@GreenBeetle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍это точно!! КРАСАВА
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i was like #420
Too expensive, I would prefer to buy Kazak equipment if I had to spend so much
The thing I don't like about this design is that the angle changes the further away from the pivot point you're contacting the blade...so the more you swivel from center, the more you're getting away from your true angle. That shows especially well on that long flat bar you showed about 8 1/2 minutes in.
Seems like a lot of fancy setup for something that could be accomplished (potentially better) with a simple stone or two.
It’s the same angle no matter how far from pivot because length of the arm changes to accommodate. Jeremy at simple little life did a video on this a while ago. I think the angle changes at the tip a bit going around the belly, though.
@@GreenBeetle Unless the actual height of the pivot changes, that's just not true. Pythagoras theorem. The height is a set value, so as you lengthen the distance from the upright, the other side gets longer too...and the angle changes. It might be minor, but it's there.
Edit: I get what you're saying, but it only holds true while the edge stays straight. And at that end where the arm lengthens is where your blade usually curves.
I do not recommend buying this sharpener, I have ko3 pro hunter and kadet pro, although kadet pro has few less options, it is far more stable sharpener than k03 hunter. Ko3 Hunter main top swivel which holds the rod - always unscrews and as youre sharpening it always pop back and forth, you gotta always tighten the screw on it, if you tighen to tight swivel rotations will be rough and and create more resistance for turning as youre sharpening. Another flaw that is becoming very annoying is the bar that holds the miller clamps. No matter how much you tighten it, as you press against either left or right end of the knife while sharpening- it caused tiny dip on the edge of it even with light pressure, kadet pro doesn't have such issues, its clamps tightening has different mechanism but much more efficient and sturdy, im not happy with ko3 hunter sharpener, kadet pro is a better choice, even though it has few limits
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I received mine on 08/30/22 and can't say it was so smooth of an assembly. The box had been dropped on the corner and the wooden crate was busted. The logistics company that TSPROF.US used to fulfill the order put the tsprof box inside of a larger box with virtually no packing and when I received it from UPS the shipping tape was busted on both ends . Long story short the mechanical angle gauge was bent pretty bad which I blame on the shipper but the fact that the thumb screws that hold the unit to the weighted base would only thread in by hand about one third of the way and had to be tightened the rest of the way with pliers leaves me to wonder just what kind of quality control issues the company has. I am not happy with my purchase.
Almost as good as the cement on my backstep! (just kidding). A very impressive review; nice and short. My pop could get his butcher knives sharper than any gadget I know, including the Wicked Edge, but for mugs like me the TSProf would be fantastic. I still, at 70, just use stones as I don't have the dough for one of these fixed angle systems. I get my knives pretty sharp for my needs but not razor sharp. I'd like to retain my fingers for as long as I can; slipped once cutting a potato and "holy moly" blood everywhere (and I didn't even feel it!) No more Rachmaninoff Number Four for me!!!
Neat. But who has $500+ bucks for a knife sharpener these days?
It’s more for the person that sells products on a regular basis, speeds the sharpening time while keeping a perfectly average edge. Allowing for more productivity, hobbyists are always better sticking to the basics I personally think it’s more fun anyways
CA just sent along about that, that I wasn't expecting. As I'm looking into restoring/maintaining what I have, and for a few friends, may not be the worst way to go. Buy once cry once, and all that. Though I liked the fold down features of the Kadet a little more, and the $355 price point pre tax/ship.
"Looked flimsy". Huh?
I'm with the poors so can only aspire to such a thing. Looks the business.
Ooh! Im telling Outdoors55 your cheating!😤
I understand these kinds of jigs but they really are sharpening on a whet stone without knowing how to really do it.thats all I really have to say about it
If it is made in Russia, they can just keep it.
This system is much more than $500……
Everything’s more expensive now than when this video was made
Very disappointed, you make cool knives in your videos and you opened the box with scissors. Real men go out of their way to find an excuse to use their knives.
But I was carrying the scissors in my teeth. Points?
That is how my wife carries them, so no.
I do love your videos, keep up the good work!
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super disappointed seeing you manually pulling away. sure u get a sharp edge but it breaks off faster
I don't trust you now. If you paid for it I'd trust your word. Otherwise it IS biased.
Steve is just giving his take on the product, He has no incentive to sell the product to you. No special code or affiliate link so he doesn’t make any money if this video prompted a sale.
They sent me an affiliate code to use if I liked it. It’s in the description. It beats my more expensive wicked edge hands down so I already sold the wicked edge. My honest opinion is it’s the best sharpener I’ve ever owned. If I were more constant on stones I’d probably stick to those but I’m not.
Don't buy made in Russia