DAMN! Samsonov had such an unpredictable play style against the Joo! So brilliant at messing up the opponent's flow, and great IQ on when to attack and when to push. Also, Vlad's attacks are so underrated, he places the ball so deep and actually hits with great speed!
@Humpty Dumpty the attacks were more unexpected due to his chopping and the chopping game is far from dead look hou yingchao or gionis panagiotis for examples
@Humpty Dumpty my point is there still are choppers who can compete at the highest level. How much percentage of players are trained as choppers? If it was 50/50 your point could be valid but there's like 5% defenders only and the rest is attacking players of course the probability that an attacker wins a title is so much greater because of that
Just because Ma Long can beat choppers doesn't mean everyone can. Actually new generation become wet noodles encountering underspin. But you are right regarding choppers not attacking. They need to mix it up the def with the atk. I got a few tournaments under my belt because of it.
@Humpty Dumpty yes I have seen and played against other choppers since I'm a chopper myself. I eat choppers away because I'm quite aggressive too with my long pips, chop, block, slap. You wouldn't even think I have LP if I don't back off the table every now and then. I have seen the CNT in person and their training as well the HKNT which I practiced with some of them. Those are some of the perks of been a son in law of a famous player lol. But yes, streamlined it would be more boring than watch 2 choppers playing against each other. PS: I don't care if you saw it. It was more out of courtesy to keep it more professional.
I agree with you though. There's no training for choppers nowadays. Because everything is shifted to regular inverted rubbers which is quite boring not seeing variety.
Did I get the wrong impression or does Samsonov play way more effortlessly against Joo than Boll... It was even painfull to watch: World Cup, 2011, Paris, Quarterfinal.
Can anyone tell me which shoes is Vladi using??? I"ve even asked him on Instagram, and nothing! Haha... (I don"t think he checks his DM too often anyways...)
Joo realizes at 2-0 that if he will not attack he will not win.. vlad exposes the weakness of a defender here... thats why i like sp modern defenders than lp like muramatsu.. attack oriented defender.. more like hybrid player..
So many rule changes in table tennis, but the sets keep untuched. I always thought we could get rid of the sets. Because with sets the better player can loose. For Exemple: if you play 11:2, 9:11, 11:4, 8:11, 9:11 you loose by sets, even though you played 47:39 points. So if you want to make shure the better player wins in the end, you could take soccer or Hockey as refernce. Make e.g. 3 halftimes à 10mins and just keep counting points
Very similar to Kong Linghui facing Ding Song. Entertaining and amusing, maybe. But eventually not even the very best defenders did win. (John Hilton in ETTC Bern, 1980 is the exception)
As a defender who changed to offensive because of the plastic ball, I can tell you from my point of view that is has something to do with character and what kind of movement suits you more. Some people are more risk taking and have a kill instinkt. They would be great Boxers, too. Some people are way less aggressive, but much more persistent. That is a big reason why I decided to play defensive. The other part is movement. For offensive playstyle one has to be very nimble. I am very fast, bur not nimble. Its much more easy for me to run forward and backwards than to execute those fast sidesteps. If you play far from the table, even though the ball is faster, you have more time and can use a lot more strength and force, while in offense its much more fucus in fine motor skills
Really bad matchup for jsh. A ton of change of pace, control and heavy spins. Quite different when super aggressive topspin in dominating the sport. Rare match to behold today^^
No, I mean where did he go. He hasn't been participating in any tournaments, isn't on the rankings, and nothing has been said of him for months. As far as I can find, there isnt anything saying hes retired
He's come back, but heard he's trying Hurricane 3 on forehand. So he's flipped rubber colors, black forehand red pips. Nice to see him back but he's playing very poorly. Maybe he was injured or retired them decided to come back. I don't know.
Joo was under time pressure to finish the 4th set to tie otherwise he would have lost on time. Great fight from Joo , however u have to appreciate the patience of Vlad Samsanov waiting for the opportune time to attack
DAMN! Samsonov had such an unpredictable play style against the Joo! So brilliant at messing up the opponent's flow, and great IQ on when to attack and when to push. Also, Vlad's attacks are so underrated, he places the ball so deep and actually hits with great speed!
Such a joy to watch these two legends with style. Don´t see Joo on the world tour anymore - what a pity. Thanks for sharing this.
The four horsemen - Waldner, Kong Linghui, Samsanov, Joo. These four define Table Tennis to me. Feels so good to see this match.
Vladimir: should I smack back?
Ball: NOPE!
3:41
So far one of the best games in this tournament
Great video quality and an exciting match. Thank you.
The chops are so satisfying
@Humpty Dumpty the attacks were more unexpected due to his chopping and the chopping game is far from dead look hou yingchao or gionis panagiotis for examples
@Humpty Dumpty my point is there still are choppers who can compete at the highest level. How much percentage of players are trained as choppers? If it was 50/50 your point could be valid but there's like 5% defenders only and the rest is attacking players of course the probability that an attacker wins a title is so much greater because of that
Just because Ma Long can beat choppers doesn't mean everyone can. Actually new generation become wet noodles encountering underspin. But you are right regarding choppers not attacking. They need to mix it up the def with the atk. I got a few tournaments under my belt because of it.
@Humpty Dumpty yes I have seen and played against other choppers since I'm a chopper myself. I eat choppers away because I'm quite aggressive too with my long pips, chop, block, slap. You wouldn't even think I have LP if I don't back off the table every now and then. I have seen the CNT in person and their training as well the HKNT which I practiced with some of them. Those are some of the perks of been a son in law of a famous player lol. But yes, streamlined it would be more boring than watch 2 choppers playing against each other.
PS: I don't care if you saw it. It was more out of courtesy to keep it more professional.
I agree with you though. There's no training for choppers nowadays. Because everything is shifted to regular inverted rubbers which is quite boring not seeing variety.
Did I get the wrong impression or does Samsonov play way more effortlessly against Joo than Boll... It was even painfull to watch: World Cup, 2011, Paris, Quarterfinal.
Two legends of the game are playing
Samsonov shows his long-forgotten attacking capability.
needs a defender to bring it out
wow great match.
Can anyone tell me which shoes is Vladi using??? I"ve even asked him on Instagram, and nothing! Haha... (I don"t think he checks his DM too often anyways...)
Samsonov plays so smartly and skillfullu
*1:36* *2:17*
What A *Backhands* ! Just lovely!
I alwaya asmire Joo offensive game. In his prime he was probably top 100 off players
top 5
Lovely to watch
why was the last game only to 5?
What has been wore by both the players in their knees, what knee band does it call?
Both got taped. Pretty normal in today's sports heavy on the knees.
So who won in the end, between "kill points" and other inventions???
Samsonov won
what format is this? Players in t-shirts racing the clock? weird
Joo realizes at 2-0 that if he will not attack he will not win.. vlad exposes the weakness of a defender here... thats why i like sp modern defenders than lp like muramatsu.. attack oriented defender.. more like hybrid player..
Yes
The rules of this tournament is different,if you draw(2-2) and the game is timed also; then the last game also know as “kill zone” at 5.
Самсонов класс форэва!!!!
Mantaab
When did the new 25 minutes rule come into existence ?
So many rule changes in table tennis, but the sets keep untuched. I always thought we could get rid of the sets. Because with sets the better player can loose. For Exemple: if you play 11:2, 9:11, 11:4, 8:11, 9:11 you loose by sets, even though you played 47:39 points. So if you want to make shure the better player wins in the end, you could take soccer or Hockey as refernce. Make e.g. 3 halftimes à 10mins and just keep counting points
2018 9 hands up !
Very similar to Kong Linghui facing Ding Song. Entertaining and amusing, maybe. But eventually not even the very best defenders did win. (John Hilton in ETTC Bern, 1980 is the exception)
Why end at 3 5?
Hansku M it's the T2APAC
Once 25 min ends there is something called the “kill zone” that will activate
successful people look for ways; failure people look for excuses.
Samsonov🇧🇾 🇷🇺Russia-Belarus👍👍👍😍😍😍
Самсонов красасва.
Samsonov lihai bermain tenis meja..
チュさんかっこいいなぁ〜
サムソノフはカット打ち上手いし、ミス少ないな。。。
Joy-toy Inlin カット打ちが上手くてブロックが世界一の硬さって言うレベルだからカットマンからしたらこれほどやりづらいことはない
Caraca q jogo bom
I think Joo should add more attack most of the point he got came from his attack.
much more interesting to see games of different styles than this chinese industry creating topspin attack machines
1:12 why?
Soo damn intense and close
When samsonov tells hyuk you are not a defender but an attacker, loop it hyuk
boy samsanov pushes are like ball just kisses his racket and goes back on the table
5:55 コンリンホイのときのラリーみたい
Slow game suits the ageing Samsanov. Only one who can handle Joo well
as much as i enjoy watching defender players i dont understad why anyone would choose is as a playstyle
As a defender who changed to offensive because of the plastic ball, I can tell you from my point of view that is has something to do with character and what kind of movement suits you more. Some people are more risk taking and have a kill instinkt. They would be great Boxers, too. Some people are way less aggressive, but much more persistent. That is a big reason why I decided to play defensive. The other part is movement. For offensive playstyle one has to be very nimble. I am very fast, bur not nimble. Its much more easy for me to run forward and backwards than to execute those fast sidesteps. If you play far from the table, even though the ball is faster, you have more time and can use a lot more strength and force, while in offense its much more fucus in fine motor skills
What a goofy scoring system.
フォア面に攻撃用のラバー貼ってるせいか、フォアカットが入らないって思うの気のせいかな
yutastorm 朱世赫のこと？
Чуть все не просрал...
What happened to Joo
Really bad matchup for jsh. A ton of change of pace, control and heavy spins. Quite different when super aggressive topspin in dominating the sport. Rare match to behold today^^
No, I mean where did he go. He hasn't been participating in any tournaments, isn't on the rankings, and nothing has been said of him for months. As far as I can find, there isnt anything saying hes retired
Well, he is now working as a coach in one Korea tt team. So I think he retired.
He comes back !!! :)
He's come back, but heard he's trying Hurricane 3 on forehand. So he's flipped rubber colors, black forehand red pips. Nice to see him back but he's playing very poorly. Maybe he was injured or retired them decided to come back. I don't know.
現在新球沒有旋轉…
削球就等於自殺！
卓球台の真ん中の線がないだけで違和感あるな
かまいたちに似てるぞ！
кореец редко в атаку ходит
サムソノフは相変わらず強いな😆
The rape is forbidden on TH-cam
Joo style is fun to watch, but not great at actually winning matches.
なんかおかしいなって思ったら
詳細
センターラインがないのか
Joo was under time pressure to finish the 4th set to tie otherwise he would have lost on time. Great fight from Joo , however u have to appreciate the patience of Vlad Samsanov waiting for the opportune time to attack
Boriiiiiing
CHOPPER RUIN THE GAME. ITS SO BORING
lolololol fukk.. u are more boring person wtf
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기술을 힘으로 부숴버리면 기술은 아무런 효과를 보지못한다