Dont forget it was Cipriano Martin, head of the Civil Guard’s Greim mountain rescue unit, who said in relation to Ayub and Rocky: "Those men have been spoken to and they don’t have any relevance whatsoever for the case." Coincidentally it was also Cipriano Martin who provided Luggy with the insight as to where to locate Jay's body...
Good afternoon Duncan...just switched on U Tube and there you were😂Fascinating story about the Pyrenees as I went hitch hiking in the 70's with my 2 year old sun....we were picking grapes to survive..😂 Duncan was just wondering IF Jay went back to Masca....maybe he got persuaded by the thought of obtaining more drugs from Narco HQ....Judge Alba jailed...Wow....you talk so much sense Duncan....and you make me laugh...keep up the great work..❤ love your impeccable work
I like Marvin, and as I said earlier on another TH-camrs video, I think Marvin should've went about his Live without any announcements or premiers beforehand.
Lots of respect for Marvin, unfortunately he had people on the edge thinking that a breakthrough in getting justice for Jay was imminent. I think this is why people were so disappointed. IAli as lovely as she is was very wishy washy, not remembering names or facts. The gun and shooting was very unbelievable and also the body found it water in Morocco. That body was identified and wasn't Jay. Just think that Ali needs to catch up.
I think you've been VERY generous to Marvin in this instance Duncan. I was in the LIVE last night for the whole tedious painful 1 hour & 20 mins, & I was in the previous one too, and last nights Live was even more of a "car-crash" than the last one was ( and i didn't think that could be possible) the comments section in chat was just unbelievable as everyone was saying the same things! It was built up and hyped up on purpose, with teaser vids, to be a a big sensitive reveal that was going to get closer to the truth - but it delivered nothing concrete, provable or new IMO despite 3 days to get things together and carefully script it???? My three year old grandson could script a live better - my 11 year old grandaughter could have hosted it better. If you or Tales Of Life did a LIVE with Ali Harris she wouldn't last 5 mins under your very detailed scrutiny and cross examination! She has got to be one of the worst people I've ever heard do a guest spot on a LIVE! If she were a guest on my history podcast I'd shelve the episode and NEVER EVER release it for fear of public ridicule and losing all my followers! Ive never shouted so much at a YT video in all my life that I actually LOST my voice ! I have a lot of personal suspicions about Ali Harris and I have questioned a lot of what she's been posting out in various content creators comments section for the last few months. She has provided NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE of anything she's said from what I can see. For a retired Medical Researcher and former fact-checker ( I questioned her professional credentials and she answered me back with that info) she is highly contradictory in a lot of what she says, she doesn't recall people or place names correctly, she doesn't know some of the basic facts or know about some of the things that have been totally debunked , she couldn't even recognize Lucy in a photo, and admitted it, yet we are supposed to believe this woman and trust her? Not on your Nelly! She makes me ashamed to be "a retiree in waiting" - I am so glad that we've got YOU Duncan to prove to the YT world that not everyone with grey/silver hair ( nice new haircut btw 👍) is a batty as a fruitcake and has completely lost their marbles! Im a waiting to see whether Marvin can rescue anything from that live, and clear up things, but I am more than ready to "Call Ali Out" if there's a round 3 of this fiasco, and call her bluff. I'm already doing some background digging on her, and I'm trying to clarify some things she's told me about herself, but I've got to say that my Walter Mitty fantasist radar is well and truly on red alert! 😂
Very generous comment on that train wreck of an interview. All that build up of what a bombshell they had and how they needed days to prepare their script and it was a gentle ramble all over the well known but unproven points in this case with lots of speculation and pensamientos. And then JS was shot just dropped in there and not explored whatsoever. I mean you cant drop bombshells like that without sources. I feel embarrassed for them.
I agree, it was embarrassing, but I just wanted to give Marvin credit for all the prep and planning needed. I know he knows it did not go well, but maybe he'll follow up with a summary and anaysis of main points. We'll see.
@duncansmith7562 To be honest a summary of speculative ramblings with no evidence or sources is still going to be a waste of time. There were so many factual errors made and they say they can't give their reporter's name, ffs since when did reporters with any bona fide publication get to be anonymous. Keep on with your research, you could probably write a book on these Tenerife characters
Marvin.. bless his heart!! He never should have tauted his live the way he did the days before because it did create a sense of clickbaitishness that is such a no no for genuineness and definitely overshadowed alot of his best efforts!! I felt by trying to cover or conceal for YT what they might have truly knew was lost in conjecture and just too MUCH chit chat personal stuff no one was interested in!! AND unfortunately it's sorta Left something to question about Ali's work!! If they could have done a format of timeline events and really fit it together to say this is the best case of what happened and took you through you with specific events to back it ... even if was off a bit ...that might have worked better!! Im not sure how folks will take Ali's work now and Marvin definitely has a cleaning Job to do!! PS.....the watch intuitively has never held MUCH ump for me!!
Marvin and Aliharris left dan out to dry I personally asked Marvin to ask Aliharris to explain themselves he chose instead to ignore his followers and blocked them including myself Aliharris said she saw Jay being killed when Dan dropped his bomb and they continued to allow people to call Dan out whilst them two 🤡🤡 continued to lie and spread false narratives to there followers disgraceful behaviour only on Marvins recent live dud Aliharris admit she had nothing imagine leaving Dan and Jay's family believing it possible there a torture video out there outrageous disgraceful behaviour in my opinion. May Jay rest in peace 💙🕯️🩵🕯️💙🕯️🩵🕯️💙
Great insight my lovely as always! The more I learn the more my brain hurts!😂 So many twists and turns! Still do not believe in a million years that Jay just fell off a cliff in2 the ravine! Keep up the brilliant work as justice will prevail! X
Yes Duncan that would account for Ayub, Rocky and the elusive Brandon's quick, quick departures. Someone NEEDS to put the elusive Brandon, Brandon under the spot light as the very interesting thing about this also, is how NONE OF THEM, NONE OF THEM, bring up Brandon's name. Very Very Strange. Is he that high up they have been warned off?????In my opinion HE is a big part of the key, as it seems in photo's HE was with Jay a LOT whilst in Tenerife.
Yes like he had a watch that they convinced him he was gonna get money for. However they took the watch from him and the rest is history. Some of those watches are pricey. He never made it to masca. That was a cover story to explain how he got in the ravine. The whole story is IMO kinda rehearsed. Like they have done this before, in one form or another.
With the document forgery scandal and potter paper smoke shop , the break in was streamed live and topical juice creator he then interviewed these dudes at a festival , they said that the reason why they hit it so hard was due to potter papers business partner getting screwed over with a girl named Lucy and the legal process they had helped get it done !!!!maybe something maybe nothing 😅
@duncan smith, you mention they guy being arrested for fraud, Do you think he could have had a part in Jays documents e.g. fingerprint identification, death certificate and autopsy reports maybe he told the people to put accident, Just a thought I maybe well of the marl with these questions
Hello Duncan - the webs of corruption seem to be very well spun. I started to look at Freebird Catamarans last night following Marvin's live and found that there were layers and layers and layers of companies.
How do you recover from lieing to your followers treating them like there stoooopid no intelligence this has been going on from early spreading theories Marvins friend AliHarris said she saw Jay being killed really them Roman killed him in his car when he was drunk not to mention everyone else her and Marvin need new research team and investigators they both 🤡🤡in my opinion and other creators encouraging them are not much better encouraging them to give a summary they try to 🐂💩 the followers we sick of lies the followers have seen through this scam in my opinion 🩵💙🩵💙🩵
Reckon that's a possibility, and might explain why they've gone quiet. I don't do social media either ... no time for it... but often wonder what's going on concerning Jay's case. I just have to be patient and await the outcome.😏
Hi Duncan, I like Marvin but felt the 'live' could've gone a lot better. I learned afew things that I'd not heard before but found it quite fumbling in truth, Ali just wasn't very precise in much of what she had to say and spoke with very little persuasion although she is still uncovering a lot concerning Jay as there seems to be a mountain (pardon the expression) of information to wade through - it really does seem to be a huge can of worms with one thing leading to another. If Jay was indeed shot, then who pulled the trigger and why exactly? Also the young lad that was found in the Moroccan river may or may not have been Jay, seeing the film of it, there was a resemblance but you don't see enough to confirm anything....but it's very strange that Spanish authorities got involved in that. I think it all raised more questions then answers unfortunately.
Whatever is going on there is a LOT of money being spent to cover this whole thing up. We'll only find out the real truth once it's established WHO is the big spender or spenderS... follow the money and establish the one who is most feared!
No Bull has a Luggy vid today (torturous), however, 3+ times Luggy mentioned Jay (not) being chased by a car over a road or down a dust track! I don't know anyone who asked this question or did I miss it?
It's weird, Luggy has a habit of dwelling on points no one really mentioned, like it's on his mind, but no one else's! Complex character with a lot on his mind!
Hi Duncan, Thank you for your content good research as always. Mamma D said that there was a rave by NRG, in 2025 and tickets and the website are 16 tickets left! 😊❤🎉
Live is too frustrating. Oh dear. Trumped up charge? Martin has to be kept under control in his role with SOSD? All kicked off the island? Makes absolute sense. None of them are key players in the business of the island. They are a nuisance.
Regarding the lucy passport you mentioned, on a uk passport you can be in spain 90 days of a 180 day period. If her family does have property out there, that's the angle she will use for long stays (thats if even questioned at airport)...definatly won't be mentioning working. That will be all cash in hand either way. She did have tickets for other festivals / events abroad, trick etc, but was selling about a month or two after jay went missing. No doubt realising that wasn't going to be a good idea as the online heat was still strong. I don't think she will be front line retail again myself, cover has been blown. If she's good at what she does another role for her will be found in the network.
... and just to add to all that....I think that's why she didn't show her face on the TV interview. Hayley Comet said on a video yesterday that Lucy's mother was out in Tenerife before Debbie Duncan even got out there. Apparently when Hayley was talking to Lucy on Messenger she slipped up and sent Hayley a message meant for someone else, by mistake. That message indicated to Hayley that Lucy's mother flew out to Tenerife and was already there when Lucy reported Jay missing. Hayley said that it was Lucy's mum who made her go to the police station and insisted that her daughter's face wasn't shown on TV. So was Lucy's mum out there, doing damage limitation, Rach Hargreaves style, and controlling the narrative to protect her daughter? If Lucy's father is a *rug dealer as has been speculated upon, and Lucy's working out there herself for some of daddy's associates , her mother wouldn't want her being recognized at all! Very shady and suspect indeed.
Hayley comet just said in a live that she knows for certain through sources that Brad, Lucy, Brandon, ahyoob, and Jay were in a car on the way to masca then in a tunnel, Brad felt strange and left the car by giving an excuse of needing a wee. Then legged it back to los cristianos
@ in my opinion there is something quite off about Hayley comets explanation. It sounded like somebody had told her a version of a story that would not implicate Brad… however if you see the club videos, Brad is chummy chummy with Brandon all night and not on jays camp at all
Lovely painting cok iyi manzara, cok guzel pilaj Deniz cok cok guzel , Duncan prefer the painting than the wardrobe, ie cupboard.😊 was Martinez the little guy who spoke on tv when they were searching for jay, and a relative of roman ??
I have faith completely always have done with current narrative. Mark Williams Thomas and likewise Marvin, know important information. An awful lot of people connected to everything,be it,Tenerife,UK and any other European countries,know the absolute true story, but their lifestyle/illegal life has them completely silenced. This should never have happened to Jay and most definitely should never,ever left the UK.
Good question! It varies region to region. In most places "Buenos Días" is fine up until late afternoon, but then "Buenas tardes" should kick in, and "Buenas noches" after about 8 pm?
I watched a podcast on TH-cam two or three months back, where the creator said that they had information that Jay was stabbed on the beach, and was taken away to the BnB. The wound was a very bad one, but because of everyone concerned had involvement in the rugs trade, no one wanted to take him to hospital. Jay was alive for about five days and then taken away and his life ended as it was obvious he wasn't going to survive the stabbing. Last night on Marvin's live show, it was the first time I ahve heard a gun was used to end his life. I DO NOT believe this is what happened to Jay, though. My five pennyworth is that he wasn't even stabbed on the beach, like a lot of people believe.
Not sure about your watch theory though Duncan. I do think however, 'a watch' was stolen...possibly in Papagayos... But the video footage shows that jay was somewhat Inebreated - some say "Spiked". I don't believe that jay knew what he was doing..so he would not have been able to put up any resistance 😢 Wax & Haash both believe Jay would not have been compos mentis... But i agree that jay may have been taken to the Airbnb.
lol, David. contradictory as it may sound, when the wife is out of the house, then I'm allowed to come out of the closet! When she comes back, she tells me to get back in the closet! the world has turned upside down!
The spanish guy Juan was a bit of a low life drug addict. The Joeguy story said that he was fallen off a balcony in Erjos, not Icod, this is where he was from
Lovely painting cok iyi manzara, cok guzel pilaj Deniz cok cok guzel , Duncan prefer the painting than the wardrobe, ie cupboard.😊 was Martinez the little guy who spoke on tv when they were searching for jay, and a relative of roman ?? Yes they probably did do that to ayub your right he left very quickly ..
just a feeling. Ayub in particular, if the Guardia Civil had got word through from the UK on his rug conviction, he was told to get out and never return.
@@duncansmith7562 that’s my sentiments Duncan, I mean years ago the spainish would throw you in the nick if drugs were being sold, I knew two blokes who did bring some drugs from Spain over too Ireland they got caught Irish police with guns cornered them in a building and they were thrown in jail in Ireland straight away…. The one who had a partner in Spain food warehouse, obviously they thought transport some rugs, these men had never used drugs and were middle aged , I could not get my head round what they had done.😱
The Spanish guy breaking in was bashed over the head with a stone lion statue ornament this killing him.....Jay was a witness to this as he was in the apartment at the time as were others hence why jay was done away with AND why some people think the Spanish guy was in the blue casket instead of Jay at his own funeral.....thus cremating, eliminating all evidence of a body .....
@duncansmith7562 I think he went with the others, not necessarily willingly. When something happened they set him up - maybe he was too out of it to realise, hence the watch photo Debbie realised he didn't look right.
What's everyone's thoughts on the young Caucasian man found in Morocco, the Spanish police have asked the Moroccan police not to release any details? What's that about I wonder.? Wonder if there's a connection. Seems very odd to me.
I think that is absolutely mad as the man has long been identified and where is the proof of the spanish police asking for info of the maroccan police. Even if true, than the spanish police will have long been informed about his identity as he had been identified shortly after beeing found in June on the last day of ramadan. This is what really winds me up as there are press articles confirming what I am saying and Ali is still milking this and putting out unfounded theories full of false "facts"
Since the firm have boxing connections 😂u might find Rocky in the gym 😂as for ayub didnt he go to lanzorote then Dubai then bk to reef? Apparently he’s going to be doing Q&A’s on his old cell mates channel 😂…… crime really does pay it seems 😂 we have got ayub allll wrong apparently he’s such a sweet guy 🤣.
@@Lillyloo06 It’s Potter Payper’s music manager who most likely dealt with all the statutory documents for the music publishing business, Jessica Lucy Bridgman. Potter’s more recent company set up is Lucy’s Music Publishing Limited. Probably in honour of his late grandmother/guardian. I can send the details through on the changes.
@@duncansmith7562that key thing is an absolute insult to anyone's intelligence!! He had been booked NICE accommodations.... where there's a desk person just for these occasions or a late check in or to accommodate a guest request!! What rock did that statement come from!! Sure there was even hot water!!
You crack me up dry as hell, last night mentioned Roman had airbnb in Greece can you see if there the same as masca no ammenities etc..here at the moment there putting there grannys in the shed to rent out, prices are extortionate probably samos near turkey or corfu from albania
That's my feeling, Kelly. Nearly 5 months since Jay disappeared, and I believe not one of the non-Spanish gang members has gone back to Tenerife. The longer none of them goes back there, the more likely they were told to never come back unless they want to be arrested, IMO
I Wonder if he was not cabable to sell anyhting if he drank spiked water , if he was in the state we saw him in on that fotage. If this was planned long before he got to Tenerife things can have been done by the others to make it look like he was doing a lot of stuff .
@@KikiSushiii She blocked me for asking a question in a live. Lou Kray has supposedly made peace with her but had a lot of accusations calling her an informant. Hayley is persuasive but irrational at times.
I was wondering if Miss Lucre (filthy money) has bona fide contacts in the shadier area of this case. She doesn't address comments on her Site. Or is she a well meaning fantasist? I mean no disrespect to her either way.
The body found in Morocco I feel is Jay , he had his hands tied behind his back and the timing was just strangely closed. He was naked so whoever disposed of him had his clothes. These clothes I believe were then placed by the other body which was placed at the bottom on the Ravine, who I feel was the Spanish guys. 🤔. I love the way your mind works Duncan, yourself, Marvin, MammaD & Wax are very clever 🪷✌🏼🪷
@duncansmith7562 I think he was collected on maybe a speed boat and dumped near the river it was found at, as I don't think the Maruba could get that close, unless the body was threw in the sea and it washed up there. I think he was held on the Maruba and would release for cash which they didn't get. I will have to read more about the Spanish lad but he was never found. I just don't understand why the DNA of this boy was not given to Ali even tho she paid. I remember seeing the video of the boy and my heart sank. To this day I feel that it was Jay. I feel a watch was stolen whether it was Jay who stole it I don't know but I think he was then taken to the BnB as Ayub had a buyer. The owner of the watch knew it was at the BnB and went there. Beat Brad and Jay up, Brad ran off. They then drove Jay to the Maruba, put him on the boat and left...
@@Sarah-yn3zc that boy was a 30 year old person and has long been identified. Who in their right mind would be so stupid as to shipper a body all the way over to miles and miles away when it is a huge risk and why not just dump him right into the atlantic ocean? What a load of b....x 🤦🏽♀️ Ali does not really know anything about geography or how to pronounce or even remember a name rightly. Sorry for good old Marvin, but I am not falling for what imo is just another Joe guy or aunty or ali. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think ali gets her info of the findings of people on fb or tictoc and "chains" them somehow together with not one little bit of concrete evidence. Very sad😢
@@Sarah-yn3zcwhen I saw that video my heart sank as well, as the person washed up on the bank looked long and slender like Jay, you could see he was light skinned with dark hair. I did not know this poor soul had their hands tied behind their back also, such Evil. A man walked over and lifted the cover they had on the body from the head area, he looked for a split second, I wonder was it the head trauma we have been told Jay suffered that the man lifted the cloth to see ? I wish I had not seen this video, I've not been able to forget it, and like you I've kept thinking it could be Jay. Recently I saw that the body was identified as a 30 year old local man with mental health problems. However, with so many lies and so much corruption in this sad case, it's hard to believe alot of what we are told or is reported.
But Duncan..( what sort of name is that? Some deranged scotsman) ..you are really boring , sorry to say ..but please do something else eaah....eahhhh , eahhhh
Dont forget it was Cipriano Martin, head of the Civil Guard’s Greim mountain rescue unit, who said in relation to Ayub and Rocky: "Those men have been spoken to and they don’t have any relevance whatsoever for the case."
Coincidentally it was also Cipriano Martin who provided Luggy with the insight as to where to locate Jay's body...
Time for Cipriano Martin to arrest himself!
Good afternoon Duncan...just switched on U Tube and there you were😂Fascinating story about the Pyrenees as I went hitch hiking in the 70's with my 2 year old sun....we were picking grapes to survive..😂 Duncan was just wondering IF Jay went back to Masca....maybe he got persuaded by the thought of obtaining more drugs from Narco HQ....Judge Alba jailed...Wow....you talk so much sense Duncan....and you make me laugh...keep up the great work..❤ love your impeccable work
Good boy!! New hair cut.. beautiful picture!! AND i feel you on sunrise...got to Love Duncan AND his levity in a challenge!!!
I like Marvin, and as I said earlier on another TH-camrs video, I think Marvin should've went about his Live without any announcements or premiers beforehand.
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Lots of respect for Marvin, unfortunately he had people on the edge thinking that a breakthrough in getting justice for Jay was imminent. I think this is why people were so disappointed. IAli as lovely as she is was very wishy washy, not remembering names or facts. The gun and shooting was very unbelievable and also the body found it water in Morocco. That body was identified and wasn't Jay. Just think that Ali needs to catch up.
Marvin had a tough night!
I think you've been VERY generous to Marvin in this instance Duncan. I was in the LIVE last night for the whole tedious painful 1 hour & 20 mins, & I was in the previous one too, and last nights Live was even more of a "car-crash" than the last one was ( and i didn't think that could be possible) the comments section in chat was just unbelievable as everyone was saying the same things! It was built up and hyped up on purpose, with teaser vids, to be a a big sensitive reveal that was going to get closer to the truth - but it delivered nothing concrete, provable or new IMO despite 3 days to get things together and carefully script it???? My three year old grandson could script a live better - my 11 year old grandaughter could have hosted it better.
If you or Tales Of Life did a LIVE with Ali Harris she wouldn't last 5 mins under your very detailed scrutiny and cross examination! She has got to be one of the worst people I've ever heard do a guest spot on a LIVE! If she were a guest on my history podcast I'd shelve the episode and NEVER EVER release it for fear of public ridicule and losing all my followers! Ive never shouted so much at a YT video in all my life that I actually LOST my voice !
I have a lot of personal suspicions about Ali Harris and I have questioned a lot of what she's been posting out in various content creators comments section for the last few months. She has provided NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE of anything she's said from what I can see. For a retired Medical Researcher and former fact-checker ( I questioned her professional credentials and she answered me back with that info) she is highly contradictory in a lot of what she says, she doesn't recall people or place names correctly, she doesn't know some of the basic facts or know about some of the things that have been totally debunked , she couldn't even recognize Lucy in a photo, and admitted it, yet we are supposed to believe this woman and trust her?
Not on your Nelly! She makes me ashamed to be "a retiree in waiting" - I am so glad that we've got YOU Duncan to prove to the YT world that not everyone with grey/silver hair ( nice new haircut btw 👍) is a batty as a fruitcake and has completely lost their marbles!
Im a waiting to see whether Marvin can rescue anything from that live, and clear up things, but I am more than ready to "Call Ali Out" if there's a round 3 of this fiasco, and call her bluff. I'm already doing some background digging on her, and I'm trying to clarify some things she's told me about herself, but I've got to say that my Walter Mitty fantasist radar is well and truly on red alert! 😂
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You look nice and smart with your new hair cut 👍
Very generous comment on that train wreck of an interview. All that build up of what a bombshell they had and how they needed days to prepare their script and it was a gentle ramble all over the well known but unproven points in this case with lots of speculation and pensamientos. And then JS was shot just dropped in there and not explored whatsoever. I mean you cant drop bombshells like that without sources. I feel embarrassed for them.
I agree, it was embarrassing, but I just wanted to give Marvin credit for all the prep and planning needed. I know he knows it did not go well, but maybe he'll follow up with a summary and anaysis of main points. We'll see.
@duncansmith7562 To be honest a summary of speculative ramblings with no evidence or sources is still going to be a waste of time. There were so many factual errors made and they say they can't give their reporter's name, ffs since when did reporters with any bona fide publication get to be anonymous. Keep on with your research, you could probably write a book on these Tenerife characters
@@NinaAguai agree doesn’t matter how much you try to explain it you can’t get around the factual errors and make them make sense.
Totally agree with you Nina 👍👏
Yeah I have to agree to a degree tbh..i was kinda deflated by his live reveal it wasn't all that explosive 💣 more like a spent party popper imo 🎉🎉🎉
Oh I’d love to drive the Peranise mountains pardon my spelling and spell check didn’t help either!
Keep up the fantastic work Duncan TY
Marvin.. bless his heart!! He never should have tauted his live the way he did the days before because it did create a sense of clickbaitishness that is such a no no for genuineness and definitely overshadowed alot of his best efforts!! I felt by trying to cover or conceal for YT what they might have truly knew was lost in conjecture and just too MUCH chit chat personal stuff no one was interested in!! AND unfortunately it's sorta Left something to question about Ali's work!! If they could have done a format of timeline events and really fit it together to say this is the best case of what happened and took you through you with specific events to back it ... even if was off a bit ...that might have worked better!! Im not sure how folks will take Ali's work now and Marvin definitely has a cleaning Job to do!!
PS.....the watch intuitively has never held MUCH ump for me!!
Marvin and Aliharris left dan out to dry I personally asked Marvin to ask Aliharris to explain themselves he chose instead to ignore his followers and blocked them including myself Aliharris said she saw Jay being killed when Dan dropped his bomb and they continued to allow people to call Dan out whilst them two 🤡🤡 continued to lie and spread false narratives to there followers disgraceful behaviour only on Marvins recent live dud Aliharris admit she had nothing imagine leaving Dan and Jay's family believing it possible there a torture video out there outrageous disgraceful behaviour in my opinion.
May Jay rest in peace
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Martin..the missing person guy gives me GLOBAL vibes ... Matthew!!!
Great insight my lovely as always! The more I learn the more my brain hurts!😂 So many twists and turns! Still do not believe in a million years that Jay just fell off a cliff in2 the ravine! Keep up the brilliant work as justice will prevail! X
Just rest the brain every now and then:)
No way Jay fell off a cliff, but figuring out what did happen is a puzzle and a half!
Thank you once again Duncan for brilliant content
Thank you once again for your support, Wendy.
Yes Duncan that would account for Ayub, Rocky and the elusive Brandon's quick, quick departures. Someone NEEDS to put the elusive Brandon, Brandon under the spot light as the very interesting thing about this also, is how NONE OF THEM, NONE OF THEM, bring up Brandon's name. Very Very Strange. Is he that high up they have been warned off?????In my opinion HE is a big part of the key, as it seems in photo's HE was with Jay a LOT whilst in Tenerife.
Buenos tardes Duncan, another interesting podcast. Keep up the good work.
Yes like he had a watch that they convinced him he was gonna get money for. However they took the watch from him and the rest is history. Some of those watches are pricey.
He never made it to masca. That was a cover story to explain how he got in the ravine.
The whole story is IMO kinda rehearsed. Like they have done this before, in one form or another.
That’s rubbish Duncan, he just made a fool of himself again…
Rocky has allegedly been in tenerife as he's a post on TikTok showing him driving past a road sign for Adeje 27th July.
I think the trolls made it harder too.
Too much came in at once disabling any chances of reading genuine questions
Thank you Duncan
Thanks for your support, Carole
With the document forgery scandal and potter paper smoke shop , the break in was streamed live and topical juice creator he then interviewed these dudes at a festival , they said that the reason why they hit it so hard was due to potter papers business partner getting screwed over with a girl named Lucy and the legal process they had helped get it done !!!!maybe something maybe nothing 😅
I think it's a different Lucy, Mick. Just can't imagine an 18 yr old rugs dealer handling property paperwork for anyone.
@@duncansmith7562I did read that potty paper was bought up by grandma named Lucy !
@@paulinesmith706 Grandma Lucy more likely to have signed a property transfer deal than Honey pot Lucy!
@duncan smith, you mention they guy being arrested for fraud, Do you think he could have had a part in Jays documents e.g. fingerprint identification, death certificate and autopsy reports maybe he told the people to put accident, Just a thought I maybe well of the marl with these questions
Hello Duncan - the webs of corruption seem to be very well spun. I started to look at Freebird Catamarans last night following Marvin's live and found that there were layers and layers and layers of companies.
Carole, is it Freebird or Firebird?
Layers and layers of companies = money laundering, basically
@duncansmith7562 yep exactly what I thought
@@SherrylJones-bw3qb definitely freebird according to the NRG programme
@@caroleashcroft5355 Thanks I thought Ali said Firebird.
Jay wasn't in a fit state to get in a car to sell a watch !
That live was a complete car crash!
I think Marvin knows that, and he just explained why he was so off form, but yes, Marvin will come through with a summary in small chunks, I hope!
How do you recover from lieing to your followers treating them like there stoooopid no intelligence this has been going on from early spreading theories Marvins friend AliHarris said she saw Jay being killed really them Roman killed him in his car when he was drunk not to mention everyone else her and Marvin need new research team and investigators they both 🤡🤡in my opinion and other creators encouraging them are not much better encouraging them to give a summary they try to 🐂💩 the followers we sick of lies the followers have seen through this scam in my opinion 🩵💙🩵💙🩵
Spot on with AYUBS verbal vocabulary, cannot bear to listen to it, so maybe that was his walk out of Tenerife card free very quickly.
Reckon that's a possibility, and might explain why they've gone quiet.
I don't do social media either ... no time for it... but often wonder what's going on concerning Jay's case. I just have to be patient and await the outcome.😏
J could barely stand up let alone write a txt message or get in a car of his own accord .
Hi Duncan, I like Marvin but felt the 'live' could've gone a lot better. I learned afew things that I'd not heard before but found it quite fumbling in truth, Ali just wasn't very precise in much of what she had to say and spoke with very little persuasion although she is still uncovering a lot concerning Jay as there seems to be a mountain (pardon the expression) of information to wade through - it really does seem to be a huge can of worms with one thing leading to another.
If Jay was indeed shot, then who pulled the trigger and why exactly? Also the young lad that was found in the Moroccan river may or may not have been Jay, seeing the film of it, there was a resemblance but you don't see enough to confirm anything....but it's very strange that Spanish authorities got involved in that. I think it all raised more questions then answers unfortunately.
I’m seen a post stating Ayub is wanted in Tenerife for the mess he has caused
Who wants Ayub for the mess he has caused, the guardia civil or one of the gangs he is allegedly working for?
Whatever is going on there is a LOT of money being spent to cover this whole thing up. We'll only find out the real truth once it's established WHO is the big spender or spenderS... follow the money and establish the one who is most feared!
Buenos Dias our Duncan good to see you 👋🏻🥰☀️..,Out of the Closet…🤦♀️😂🤣
Good to see you here, Paola.
Amazing work Duncan ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Appreciate you being here, Mick
Lol 😂 Lovely painting Duncan and lovely new 'do' 🧓👍
That’s a beautiful painting, yes ❤Who painted it?
according to Mariana the mrg festival a day early and that jay had booked a trip on a catamaran confirmed by Alison a journalist from Tenerife .
No Bull has a Luggy vid today (torturous), however, 3+ times Luggy mentioned Jay (not) being chased by a car over a road or down a dust track! I don't know anyone who asked this question or did I miss it?
It's weird, Luggy has a habit of dwelling on points no one really mentioned, like it's on his mind, but no one else's! Complex character with a lot on his mind!
Gosh this case really has opened so many doors 🚪😅
and, Sarah, no one knows if the right doors to solving it have yet to be opened!
Hi Duncan,
Thank you for your content good research as always. Mamma D said that there was a rave by NRG, in 2025 and tickets and the website are 16 tickets left! 😊❤🎉
Lucys family has accomodation in Tenerife
Buenos días Duncan. Have a nice weekend 😎
Same to you, Linda!
Live is too frustrating. Oh dear. Trumped up charge? Martin has to be kept under control in his role with SOSD? All kicked off the island? Makes absolute sense. None of them are key players in the business of the island. They are a nuisance.
Regarding the lucy passport you mentioned, on a uk passport you can be in spain 90 days of a 180 day period. If her family does have property out there, that's the angle she will use for long stays (thats if even questioned at airport)...definatly won't be mentioning working. That will be all cash in hand either way. She did have tickets for other festivals / events abroad, trick etc, but was selling about a month or two after jay went missing. No doubt realising that wasn't going to be a good idea as the online heat was still strong. I don't think she will be front line retail again myself, cover has been blown. If she's good at what she does another role for her will be found in the network.
... and just to add to all that....I think that's why she didn't show her face on the TV interview. Hayley Comet said on a video yesterday that Lucy's mother was out in Tenerife before Debbie Duncan even got out there. Apparently when Hayley was talking to Lucy on Messenger she slipped up and sent Hayley a message meant for someone else, by mistake. That message indicated to Hayley that Lucy's mother flew out to Tenerife and was already there when Lucy reported Jay missing. Hayley said that it was Lucy's mum who made her go to the police station and insisted that her daughter's face wasn't shown on TV. So was Lucy's mum out there, doing damage limitation, Rach Hargreaves style, and controlling the narrative to protect her daughter? If Lucy's father is a *rug dealer as has been speculated upon, and Lucy's working out there herself for some of daddy's associates , her mother wouldn't want her being recognized at all! Very shady and suspect indeed.
Hayley comet just said in a live that she knows for certain through sources that Brad, Lucy, Brandon, ahyoob, and Jay were in a car on the way to masca then in a tunnel, Brad felt strange and left the car by giving an excuse of needing a wee. Then legged it back to los cristianos
Sounds like Brad didn't want to be around when the gang decided what to do with Jay! Understandable.
@ in my opinion there is something quite off about Hayley comets explanation. It sounded like somebody had told her a version of a story that would not implicate Brad… however if you see the club videos, Brad is chummy chummy with Brandon all night and not on jays camp at all
Lovely painting cok iyi manzara, cok guzel pilaj
Deniz cok cok guzel , Duncan prefer the painting than the wardrobe, ie cupboard.😊 was Martinez the little guy who spoke on tv when they were searching for jay, and a relative of roman ??
He gave the very long rambling interview had a hat on??? Spanish guy the hiker guy,l??
I have faith completely always have done with current narrative.
Mark Williams Thomas and likewise Marvin, know important information.
An awful lot of people connected to everything,be it,Tenerife,UK and any other European countries,know the absolute true story, but their lifestyle/illegal life has them completely silenced.
This should never have happened to Jay and most definitely should never,ever left the UK.
I have a question: to which time you say buenos dias in spain ? Also in the afternoon? It doesn’t only mean good morning, does it?
Good question! It varies region to region. In most places "Buenos Días" is fine up until late afternoon, but then "Buenas tardes" should kick in, and "Buenas noches" after about 8 pm?
Good morning 🌞!!
Hey Duncan 😊 on catch up
There seems to be a thread of Moroccan folks being brought up again!!
Good afternoon
He wasn’t in a fit state to willingly get in the car in the hope to sell a watch 🤷♀️
Do you think he got in the car willingly?
The vid looks clearer
That's good. I have to switch laptops for my upcoming trip, so I think the audio will still be off, but video a bit clearer.
what report said there was a gun involved ? as certain content creators keep bringing it up ?
I watched a podcast on TH-cam two or three months back, where the creator said that they had information that Jay was stabbed on the beach, and was taken away to the BnB. The wound was a very bad one, but because of everyone concerned had involvement in the rugs trade, no one wanted to take him to hospital. Jay was alive for about five days and then taken away and his life ended as it was obvious he wasn't going to survive the stabbing. Last night on Marvin's live show, it was the first time I ahve heard a gun was used to end his life.
I DO NOT believe this is what happened to Jay, though. My five pennyworth is that he wasn't even stabbed on the beach, like a lot of people believe.
❤Love your art behind you is it your own? I can paint a similar version almost...cute
Not sure about your watch theory though Duncan. I do think however, 'a watch' was stolen...possibly in Papagayos... But the video footage shows that jay was somewhat Inebreated - some say "Spiked". I don't believe that jay knew what he was doing..so he would not have been able to put up any resistance 😢 Wax & Haash both believe Jay would not have been compos mentis... But i agree that jay may have been taken to the Airbnb.
Duncan not for one minute did I ever have you pencilled in as a closet man ....lol....
lol, David. contradictory as it may sound, when the wife is out of the house, then I'm allowed to come out of the closet! When she comes back, she tells me to get back in the closet! the world has turned upside down!
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@@duncansmith7562but by virtue of this very statement you are probably in the midst of a very long marriage 😅!
Glad that you are out of the closet... I'm loving your new look.
The spanish guy Juan was a bit of a low life drug addict. The Joeguy story said that he was fallen off a balcony in Erjos, not Icod, this is where he was from
Keep up the great content! Everyone make sure to like and subscribe.. i would like to donate but how?
Lovely painting cok iyi manzara, cok guzel pilaj
Deniz cok cok guzel , Duncan prefer the painting than the wardrobe, ie cupboard.😊 was Martinez the little guy who spoke on tv when they were searching for jay, and a relative of roman ?? Yes they probably did do that to ayub your right he left very quickly ..
just a feeling. Ayub in particular, if the Guardia Civil had got word through from the UK on his rug conviction, he was told to get out and never return.
@@duncansmith7562 that’s my sentiments Duncan, I mean years ago the spainish would throw you in the nick if drugs were being sold, I knew two blokes who did bring some drugs from Spain over too Ireland they got caught Irish police with guns cornered them in a building and they were thrown in jail in Ireland straight away…. The one who had a partner in Spain food warehouse, obviously they thought transport some rugs, these men had never used drugs and were middle aged , I could not get my head round what they had done.😱
The Spanish guy breaking in was bashed over the head with a stone lion statue ornament this killing him.....Jay was a witness to this as he was in the apartment at the time as were others hence why jay was done away with AND why some people think the Spanish guy was in the blue casket instead of Jay at his own funeral.....thus cremating, eliminating all evidence of a body .....
Marvin exposed you all
I dont think the watch story is real
Do you think Jay went to the Masca airbnb? willingly?
@duncansmith7562 I think he went with the others, not necessarily willingly. When something happened they set him up - maybe he was too out of it to realise, hence the watch photo Debbie realised he didn't look right.
What's everyone's thoughts on the young Caucasian man found in Morocco, the Spanish police have asked the Moroccan police not to release any details? What's that about I wonder.? Wonder if there's a connection. Seems very odd to me.
I think that is absolutely mad as the man has long been identified and where is the proof of the spanish police asking for info of the maroccan police.
Even if true, than the spanish police will have long been informed about his identity as he had been identified shortly after beeing found in June on the last day of ramadan.
This is what really winds me up as there are press articles confirming what I am saying and Ali is still milking this and putting out unfounded theories full of false "facts"
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Since the firm have boxing connections 😂u might find Rocky in the gym 😂as for ayub didnt he go to lanzorote then Dubai then bk to reef? Apparently he’s going to be doing Q&A’s on his old cell mates channel 😂…… crime really does pay it seems 😂 we have got ayub allll wrong apparently he’s such a sweet guy 🤣.
It was a fookin LORUS!!!!!
Lovely painting cok iyi manzara, cok guzel pilaj
Deniz cok cok guzel , Duncan prefer the painting than the wardrobe, ie cupboard.😊
but the closet is warm and silent!
back n the closet,cupboard tomorrow!
What a coincidence IF its true that Lucy was forging document's for Paper Potty's business
I have a feeling it's another Lucy that is involved with Potter Payper's place.
@@duncansmith7562 yes, on the documents side.
@@duncansmith7562,
Nana Lucy.
PP Grandmother.
@@Lillyloo06 It’s Potter Payper’s music manager who most likely dealt with all the statutory documents for the music publishing business, Jessica Lucy Bridgman.
Potter’s more recent company set up is Lucy’s Music Publishing Limited. Probably in honour of his late grandmother/guardian.
I can send the details through on the changes.
Was the lost key a kilo of substance?
maybe, but whatever the lost key was about, it was a lame excuse for Jay begging to go to Masca for a couple of hours
@@duncansmith7562that key thing is an absolute insult to anyone's intelligence!! He had been booked NICE accommodations.... where there's a desk person just for these occasions or a late check in or to accommodate a guest request!! What rock did that statement come from!!
Sure there was even hot water!!
You crack me up dry as hell, last night mentioned Roman had airbnb in Greece can you see if there the same as masca no ammenities etc..here at the moment there putting there grannys in the shed to rent out, prices are extortionate probably samos near turkey or corfu from albania
Duncan - a bit worried about the Pyrenees. Are they slipping into the sea or is it just that the tide is going out?
The Pyrenees kind of slip into the sea on the Med side! On the Atlantic side they are more upright and behave themselves!
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Duncan my love, jay never stole anything he was spiked set up then the obvious unalived .
Would he not sat think about it bro it's mad
😎💙🫡🗣️Duncannnnn
None of them been back have unless they haven't posted about it
That's my feeling, Kelly. Nearly 5 months since Jay disappeared, and I believe not one of the non-Spanish gang members has gone back to Tenerife. The longer none of them goes back there, the more likely they were told to never come back unless they want to be arrested, IMO
I Wonder if he was not cabable to sell anyhting if he drank spiked water , if he was in the state we saw him in on that fotage. If this was planned long before he got to Tenerife things can have been done by the others to make it look like he was doing a lot of stuff .
Gatekeepers and Grifters everywhere 😂
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I was told Roman was head of the missing persons team
I don't think so. A different Martín
❤ 😂😂😂 out of the closet..... your friend freddy.... oh bless you
Hey Duncan you’re very brave for coming out of the closet!😜
Anyways have you seen Hayley comets new video? 🙂↕️
yes, Halley talking about some fascinating stuff. she is pretty reliable.
@ yes I also think so but I was a little disappointed by the way she talked about streamline with such little respect
@@KikiSushiii She blocked me for asking a question in a live. Lou Kray has supposedly made peace with her but had a lot of accusations calling her an informant. Hayley is persuasive but irrational at times.
I was wondering if Miss Lucre (filthy money) has bona fide contacts in the shadier area of this case. She doesn't address comments on her Site. Or is she a well meaning fantasist? I mean no disrespect to her either way.
I don't know, Paul. Lou may well have some contacts in that murky world, but not sure she knows what she's talking about at times!
Eahhh...eeeaaahh eahhh 😂
Hi Duncan
Hi mandamori, good to see you here
@duncansmith7562 love catching up with your updates . Looking all smart today x
Sherlock cap 😂
Hi Duncan no hat today lol
it'll be back later! needed an airing!
Apparently he was shot.
And wax was supposed to be doing a video that didn’t materialise!
Sam Walkers TikTok video around the same time Jay was still "missing". He said Jay was shot
Did you see haley comets live last night it was amazing said things that are true
Yes, Halley is excellent. She seems to have a lot of good sources, and I agree with her on most points.
Hi duncan
Good to see you here, Kathleen
Still like the hat😊
the hat will be back!
The body found in Morocco I feel is Jay , he had his hands tied behind his back and the timing was just strangely closed. He was naked so whoever disposed of him had his clothes. These clothes I believe were then placed by the other body which was placed at the bottom on the Ravine, who I feel was the Spanish guys. 🤔.
I love the way your mind works Duncan, yourself, Marvin, MammaD & Wax are very clever 🪷✌🏼🪷
Thanks for your support, Sarah. So, do you think Jay's dead body was dumped in Morocco, or they took his life in Morocco?
@duncansmith7562 I think he was collected on maybe a speed boat and dumped near the river it was found at, as I don't think the Maruba could get that close, unless the body was threw in the sea and it washed up there.
I think he was held on the Maruba and would release for cash which they didn't get. I will have to read more about the Spanish lad but he was never found. I just don't understand why the DNA of this boy was not given to Ali even tho she paid. I remember seeing the video of the boy and my heart sank. To this day I feel that it was Jay.
I feel a watch was stolen whether it was Jay who stole it I don't know but I think he was then taken to the BnB as Ayub had a buyer. The owner of the watch knew it was at the BnB and went there. Beat Brad and Jay up, Brad ran off. They then drove Jay to the Maruba, put him on the boat and left...
@@Sarah-yn3zc that boy was a 30 year old person and has long been identified. Who in their right mind would be so stupid as to shipper a body all the way over to miles and miles away when it is a huge risk and why not just dump him right into the atlantic ocean?
What a load of b....x 🤦🏽♀️
Ali does not really know anything about geography or how to pronounce or even remember a name rightly.
Sorry for good old Marvin, but I am not falling for what imo is just another Joe guy or aunty or ali.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I think ali gets her info of the findings of people on fb or tictoc and "chains" them somehow together with not one little bit of concrete evidence.
Very sad😢
@@Sarah-yn3zcwhen I saw that video my heart sank as well, as the person washed up on the bank looked long and slender like Jay, you could see he was light skinned with dark hair. I did not know this poor soul had their hands tied behind their back also, such Evil. A man walked over and lifted the cover they had on the body from the head area, he looked for a split second, I wonder was it the head trauma we have been told Jay suffered that the man lifted the cloth to see ? I wish I had not seen this video, I've not been able to forget it, and like you I've kept thinking it could be Jay. Recently I saw that the body was identified as a 30 year old local man with mental health problems. However, with so many lies and so much corruption in this sad case, it's hard to believe alot of what we are told or is reported.
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Funny ole bird 🤣🤣🤣
actually, she's not that funny, TBH!
But Duncan..( what sort of name is that? Some deranged scotsman) ..you are really boring , sorry to say ..but please do something else eaah....eahhhh , eahhhh
But he’s choose to be a Reactor Channel should be used to it being a Private Investigator, don’t u think ? 🥸😎