Raspberry Pi UPS? Do you need this?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- The SunFounder PiPower 2 is a purpose-built UPS for the Raspberry Pi. It can keep the Raspberry Pi running for 3-4 hours in the event of a power outage, which may save the Pi microSD card from damage during a power outage! But do you even need this? What could it be used for - make sure you let me know down in the comments below!
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At my workplace, we utilize UPS with our Raspberry Pi 4Bs. These devices are tasked with running advertisements on displays in various locations, including buses. Ensuring continuous operation and internet connectivity is crucial for these setups. Unfortunately, buses are susceptible to power fluctuations, often causing the Raspberry Pi to restart, leading to potential SD card corruption.
One significant challenge we're currently addressing is the need to schedule the Raspberry Pi to turn on after a power interruption. Our existing script initiates a shutdown when the battery is low, but if power is restored before the battery is completely drained, the Raspberry Pi remains off. To overcome this, we are exploring the integration of a real-time clock with an alarm feature to automatically power on the Raspberry Pi, ensuring uninterrupted operation in scenarios of power fluctuations and low battery conditions. So even though we brought a complete solution we still gotta find a way to turn it back on using a real time clock
I would use UPS on a Raspberry Pi mostly for the function of gracefully shutting down when power is lost. You see, I operate in the Live Entertainment industry and, on occasion, RPi is on the equipment list. It can run various equipment that uses software for control.
At the end of the night, when everything's shut down - especially when show strike commences - quite often the equipment rack (and power source) is simply unplugged and packed away. Of course, the stage hands that work it typically know (unless they're very green) not to cut power while the amps are still running, but it is not the same for the RPi. They may not even know it's there and unplug the rack. Anybody could do that. So - this is to maintain integrity in the SD Card and equipment.
Yes, absolutely. In fact, I'd like to see a range of various battery capacities or even a version with scalable battery capacity.
Where it would be useful to have the ups for the Pi is e.g. remote sensing installations, such as meteorology, cctv. etc.
Love that SBC UPSs like this exist. For my Pis and SBCs and microcomputers in the rack, there's already a bigger UPS, but the beauty of a cheaper UPS like this is for IoT applications. LoRA, garden sensors, surveillance camera projects. home automation, where the Pi lives outside the server rack. I hope the battery in this is user replaceable too! I hate making more e-waste for things where batteries aren't easily swapped out.
I kind of want to see more cheap Lithium-based UPS devices for things around the house too for when the power goes out.
Nice purpose-built solution, alternatively you can get a much larger capacity powerbank for the same purpose if it's that critical and requires uninterrupted power. E.g. my travel overkill brick of Anker 347 will run the Pi for weeks if not months.
There is a community out there using EKOS on RPi for astrophotography and sometime telescope dome control... Safety is key when it starts raining and the pi is needed for shutting down the domeshutter and telescope/ mount in its home position to keep it dry etc...
If it has a way to power from solar panels even 'to many solar panels' so it could be used in understory in a forrest, I could see some usefulness for logging environmental conditions and possibly use with a mesh protocol for reporting back (LORAWAN?)
I just bought one (well two, because I did something stupid to the first one) for a project creating a Myst style book. The Pi and PiPower sit under a touch screen, with a Pimoroni Keybow as a sort of Mysty input method. The PiPower allows me to maintain the look of the book without power tails hanging off it. I do wish there was an alternative to the on switch built on to the PiPower so that I don't have to lift the screen to get to it.
I run an Allstar node (ham radio) in my truck on a pi. I have one of those low voltage shut off switches that powers the pi, the internet router, and the two-way radio in the car. I want the pi to survive power cycles between when that shutdown switch turns off power to all my stuff and when I start the truck back up again, which brings the battery voltage of the car up to allow the shut off switch to restore power. Basically, keep the pi from shutting down more than it really needs to between truck driving and not parked. I've had this type of battery backup on it for a year or more now.
I have my Home Assistant plugged into my UniFi network UPS and works fine, BUT we sometimes get outages that last more than a few seconds or minutes so even then the main UPS will stop functioning. So, I guess an additional 4 hours or so would be beneficial, and keep HA from just losing power and going off line, even if there is nothing to control. As for my Energy Management system that is a solo act in its own reused Electric Service Panel mounted on the back of the house. I have a DIY UPS that I made from a tiny $10 MPPT Solar Charger that I purchased on Amazon a few years back (never thought it would work properly). It is wired into a PCB that I designed and had made that allows both 5VDC from a AC Power supply and a 12VDC battery that is reduced to 5VDC to the board. It has yet to shutdown during long power outages so the design seems to be working fine. Great Video!!
Useful, thanks! Which UPS would you recommend for a raspberry pi 5?
I remember seeing a similar setup with a connected sms modem that sent out error notifications, including critically for power outages in a serverroom.
We had some Pi's used in vehicles and the shut down was the issue so I built a board that had timers and connected to the io to safely shutdown before power was totally removed
I am looking to implement this exact application. Could you offer any more information about how you accomplished this?
I've been thinking about such a thing for some time but later decided that having PoE hat and having PoE switch connected to the conventional UPS is a way better.
Use case: I have portions of a homelab, and some remote sites, that are only protected by NON-smart ups units. (the batteries are fresh, though I can't justify the cost of replacing units with the appropriate SMART alternatives.) If I can get this RPi to monitor, report, and alert the same way as a SmartUPS to the rest of my client components in this scenario, that would be a heck of a savings and buy me a bit of time before I update my infrastructure correctly. "Some day!" 🙂
I use BirdNET-pi, it's a 24/7 recording and automatic identification of birds. I use a small laviere mic connected to a USB audio card. If i put the mains into the pi, the sound from the mic is very bad. If i put it into a battery pack, the mic quality is perfect. This would be a good product for me in this case to remove the static noise.
I have already tried different power bricks and one other audio card with no success.
My Pi is running Homebridge / Zigbee2MQTT. I added the PoE shield to power it from my Unifi PoE switch, which is behind an APC UPS.
The UPS is actually also connected to the Pi via USB. Via apcupsd I'm able to gracefully shutdown my UDM as well as the Pi itself, when the UPS its battery reaches a certain threshold.
So far, the UPS typically lasts long enough not to have to do the graceful shutdown, but the few times we had longer power outages due to maintenance work, it did work perfectly.
A video surveillance/security system (ZoneMinder) where you want/need to continue seeing your video feeds even if a power outage occurs (purposeful or environmental)...this is where a battery backup system would be beneficial for sure.
Just ordered one, but not for a Pi. I'm hoping I can use this as a UPS for my dashcam. There's something wrong with my battery and/or plug that causes the camera to sporadically power off while driving. Hoping I can just plug the camera into this and see if that fixes the issue.
Try hooking up the GND pin as well. I suspect you might have some signal integrity issues.
I hope you will make UPS comparison video like eaton ups vs APC? That will be cool!
I run a Raspberry Pi as an Internet server on the truck I drive, and although I have the inverter to provide power, I did not realize every time I started the truck it interrupted the inverter and my pi was rebooting every time. that is what prompted me into getting a UPS for the system, now I can shutdown and restart the truck with out killing my pi. Also, I am having the same issue of figuring out the safe shutdown of the pi if the battery gets to low, so I am always looking for any help in that area as well.
Nice video, just seen this. I purchased 2 of them on aliexpress for cheaper then what you had listed (including shipping). Came to about 22$. Great if you want to allow the device to become portable. I added this to my Orange Pi and then added a fan to the additional GPIO pins on the side. Only thing I think you did not mention on this board, and what a great feature it is. Since I have a 5in and 3.5 in screen attached directly to the the GPIO pins on top of the SBC, the UPS allows me to attach a mini fan into the case. Would be nice is you got that figured out about the soft shutdown, would be even nicer if you could show how its done on multiple SBCs (orange pi, hint hint).
I could see this as an option for my Pi-hole.
I purchased a different hat which is available in my country from an unofficial company. Not for getting power backup, but for getting a separate 5v 3A "stable" connection. I wanted the USB C port empty for my pikvm and I did not want cutting splitting etc even though I had waste small usb cables. I wanted a robust enclosure with all parts nightly tuccked in and no visible electrical tapes etc.
I am looking for a mini UPS for raspberry pi 5 to use it as a portable desktop/laptop like device. All I need is for it to stay connected till the back-up generator kicks in.
I have several Pi units running digital signs. The 'ups' I have on each is a cheap USB power bank - plug it into the wall and the Pi into the 2.4 amp charge port on it. Pi complains about low amperage with a flashing lightning bolt in the lower right, but this doesn't matter for this application. Cheap, effective, and easily hidden.
Question - is the battery on this replaceable? Or is the life of the UPS determined by the life of the battery??
Would come in handy for those using a DAC hat with their Pi. Taking your Pi off the grid when listening to music with headphones provides much cleaner power. Better power means less noise in the chain. YMMV.
Question: how do you know if you’re getting Pipower version 2? I went to their site (and also on Amazon) and they don’t mention version 2. Thanks.
I could see this as a option if I was still running my unifi controller on the pi along with my pi hole but since not running unifi controller now on a pi I am not really bothered about my pi hole
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I want to use raspberry pi with a camera and a touch screen connected to it. do you think the battery will gave me enough power for this application?
would love to know if you could power this with a 5v 6w solar panel?
I have been searching for a ups for single boards fir a long time.
I would love to test this. I use a RBP as a travel router and it would be nice to have bcz I dont always have access to power when am in the airport. But I would love a case for it. it looks kinda janki...
Portable deployments, exactly what I thought. Say you use the Pi as a sensor somewhere in the sticks
Yes I have use for a Pi-UPS.. to controll my offgrid solar, and the nas running on that.. to shutdown is a good way, and report back to the main grid tiet network
maybe it is good to use on monitoring several ups using nut.
Amazon has them for same day delivery in my area.
An UPS is part of the plan on an upcoming Pi based web server. In the autum and spring we have quite a few power cuts in my neighborhood - so what I want is a gracefull shutdown after a short while without power.
Actually if my workstation (Its a Phenom II, it will not last forever) dies, it moost likely will be replaced with a Pi (Until a a suitable RISC-V based replacement is born) I want the same arrangement on that one.
First Problem:
Obtaining a raspberry Pi.
They're actually more and more in stock these days! Check around - I know Pimoroni has them in stock RIGHT NOW and they just upped their purchase limit on Pi's to 5/day/person - so something is happening in that regard for sure.
Not sure what to think about this video. It seems like a sponsored video - Only reviewing one UPS.
I personally have been using an UPS by 52Pi. It connects via pogo pins. It already has software/scripts to operate the UPS during power outages. It also has an RTC. Everything operates through the I2C interface.
Looks like it won't work with rack mounted Raspberry Pis. Looks like a great add on for a stand alone Pi.
I use PoE hats with the switch running off a traditional UPS. Home Assistant monitors the UPS and runs scripts to gracefully shutdown stuff I care about.
I've just got my Pi's powered via POE with the switch on a UPS, much more cost effective.
the official POE hat is cheaper, and will do the same thing if your POE switch is on a UPS. And running apcupsd on the pi isn't hard at all.
kind of lame having led's that draw so much current when it's on. usually you want it to use as little power as possible for as long as possible
So I have a better solution for folks that want to use a bigger battery, I purchased a dash cam USBC adapter on Amazon for $15 it uses 12V off my boat battery to power my Pi
I have a dedicated battery just for the Pi with a power switch this will work in a van also.
When it comes to Raspberry Pi, the question "do you need this" is wrong. It's never about need - it's about _want_. 🙂
And the answer is yes.
Oh, come on, you have to tell us the uptime of the rPi running on the batteries!
I did - it's 3-4 hours.
This is a review of the SunFounder Pi Power 2, a dedicated UPS for Raspberry Pi devices. It provides up to three or four hours of power backup in case of a disconnection from the main power source. Unlike a DIY battery backup or a standard UPS, this device is purpose-built for Raspberry Pi and comes with unique features. The reviewer explores its compatibility, setup process, and features, such as a power switch, indicator LEDs, and I/O pins. One standout feature is the ability to shut down the Raspberry Pi gracefully using a low-voltage signal. The review discusses potential use cases, including portable applications, unstable power environments, and mission-critical services. While not essential for all Raspberry Pi users, the device could be beneficial for specific scenarios. The reviewer notes that, considering the ease of setup and additional features, the SunFounder Pi Power 2 might be a preferable option over building a DIY solution.
How about combining this with a PoE HAT?
Charge the PiPower off a portable solar panel and you have yourself a little solar powered Pi that can remain powered on when the sun is temporarily obscured by cloud. I wonder how difficult it would be to DIY a larger capacity battery into the PiPower so it can run through the night too.
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Could be Very Useful for 3rd world countries with multiple power outages every day 👍🏻