My Beautiful Mr Jenkins 🥰 . I've had him for about 12yrs. Definitely need to pull my finger out with these panels! I prepped one recently *there's a video on my channel* 😁 . I'm so Happy Joseph Enjoyed the drive x thank you sir
I had a fantastic time, my friend! Mr Jenkins exceeded my expectations, which had been raised by Mr Richardson waxing lyrical about his P6s. It's one of the few pre-1980 cars that I would actually consider owning (if I had a lot more money), with just a few specification adjustments.
Wow, Alex really has an excellent collection of cars. I love the colour (and some of the accessories). The P6 is a reminder of a time when Britain led the world with no money and a posh accent. Rovers executive cars from P5, P6 and SD1 were all so very different from each other but at the same time all excellent cars.
Yes, a very, very good car for the era when we genuinely made some of the most advanced designs in the automotive world from independent luxury car manufacturers. We haven't finished with her collection either!
I believe a P6 is beloved here in the US as they are extremely rare! I had forgotten that Rover had two glove boxes, being that you could fit the IP on the other side for countries like the US. Interesting to find out the interior has faux wood, it looks quite realistic! Also nice to see that it keeps up with modern in-town traffic. Automatics of this era were not meant to be drag racers but to make driving easier, enjoyable and less stressful, especially for city and in-town driving. A credit to Alex for owning Mr. Jenkins, and a wonderful review of him by yourself Joseph, thank you very much! And I must say that it is because of you, Alex, Sheldon, that I have subscribed to all of your channels and thoroughly enjoy your content!
Yes, it keeps up just fine with modern traffic in town. They were sold in America, but not many around now. The two glove boxes is a very intelligent move, it is a very thoroughly designed car. Certainly not fast, but good enough for town use, and helps with not breaking the speed limit. Glad you enjoyed this video, sir!
Interesting video. As you say rust on panels is easy fix however inner sills & frame are more problematical, I had to have inner sills done on a 10 year old car so goodness knows what they are like at 59 years old! Boot mounted spare wheel was a factory option, I think it was called a 'touring kit', reinforced boot lid, stretchy wheel cover and Rover Emblem disk on boot lid and a red boot prop to keep boot open with extra weight of the wheel on it
Thank you, Richard! Yes, everyone I spoke to about that rust issue said if the base unit is rotten, then it is time to leave. It's crazy, but you can still pick up a P6 with an MOT in good condition for less than £5,000. Alex has had several in the family now. I really enjoyed this, hoping to drive some more P6 variants at some point.
Thanks so much for this video. I fell in love with a P6 when I began hunting for my first car. Just trying to learn as much as I can and your content has certainty taught me things!
Thank you very much indeed! We have quite a lot of reviews of classics on the channel now, this was one of my favourites as I had been waiting to drive one for over 30 years.
Work of art! waay ahead of its time at launch, father had a yellow L reg 2.2 TC in the 70s (he swears by them) great video sheldon sorry i mean Joeseph!!
Great review as always and a testement to Alex for this lovely P6, the P6 from Furious Driving is what got me into Rovers and the aim one day is to own or drive a P6. Rover really made some gorgeous cars.
Yes, I did consult with Mr Richardson before making the video! The Great British Car Journey should perhaps get hold of one of these for people to drive at their museum, a most pleasant experience, although power steering would make it even better, thank you Mr Watters...
The P6 is a genuine executive saloon. They were designed to be reliable, very comfortable, very safe and to be driven to their actual maximum if the owner so desired. It is a lovely timeless classic design also. That Viking badge does carry a great deal of engineering prestige with it. Do you know what? I would buy a Rover 75 tomorrow without a problem. Even moreso, if the Rover 45 went back on sale tomorrow suddenly, my name would be on an order form immediately. They were knocked for having a dated interior in the early 2000s compared to their contemporaries in the class. Did they really, though ? Go and sit in a 2001 Ford Focus today or a Mk4 Golf or an Astra H . Then sit in any Rover 45 or MG ZS and I bet that you would prefer the MG Rover interior design today. A lot of the time modern does not age very well. The biggest regret with the 45 was not building an estate version to compete with the extremely popular Astra Estate. At least the P6 provided the option of an estate version . Enough of my ramblings, do apologise.
The design of the 45 and ZS interior was dated as it was taken from a 1992 Japanese domestic market Honda, the facelifted cars have a different dashboard, but they tend to be worse for electrical and build quality problems. Bizarrely, having a design a generation behind everyone else by the time the 45 was made has helped it become something of a very cheap classic, whereas virtually nothing else in the class is. The Mark IV Golf and Focus Mark I aren't bad, but they just feel old, not retro, if you see what I mean. One 45 Estate was made using the back of a Honda Civic Aerodeck (I think that is what they were called) and the front end of a 45.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I have found some photos and she looks good. The Rover 45 Tourer and an MG ZS Tourer. It looks really good, I would have bought one. Not as gorgeous as the Rover 400 Tourer but not bad either. The Focus Estate, the Astra Estate, the 306 SW, the Citroën ZX and Xsara estates all sold in their thousands. The Skoda Octavia Estate was very popular also.
I can understand why the lady is happy and content with what the 'experts' regard as the least desirable model. My Dad had a 60s Ford with the same BW box, even being unrefined compared to a Rover I found it an absolute joy to drive around town, and in the winters of old when snow would be on the ground for weeks it never put a foot wrong. You could be first away from the traffic lights because the reaction time between engaging D and it reaching the rear wheels was so fast. Those boxes would go on for ever (unlike the later Ford boxes) if you changed the oil around 25K miles..not easy as there was no drain plug you had to drop the pan. Cruising all day at 70mph should be no problem for the Rover as it wasn't with the Ford.
It really is a great car and yes like a rocket off the lights haha it shocks some people. The dipstick tube comes out of the sump for fluid draining, so not too bad. I've got to change my gearbox soon as it somehow has a hole in the casing...... so when the torque converter drains back in the sump. . . It comes out the hole!! Lol
Yes, this "least desirable" model seemed pretty desirable to me! Would like to try other P6 variants now. Even without power steering, it seemed quite easy to drive, and very comfortable, although door mounted mirrors and inertia reel seat belts would be something of a must for me. I had heard about how good these were, but not actually experienced one on the road for myself, and I am glad that I have now.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thanks for taking the low road - the high road is littered with too many 3.5 P6's in Zircon Blue LOL.My elderly great uncle had a man.TC in beige and the way he drove it,it didn't matter if it had been a SC it was just a nice comfortable car for him to potter around in and take down the M4 every summer..
@@Witheredgoogie , oh yes, an unusual colour for a P6, that is for sure. I just enjoyed wafting around in this 2000 Automatic, as does Alex. Seen quite a few facelifted models in beige.
It's a very handsome car. Great style, very classy. I really like the dedicated manual control knobs and switches. So much better than some infernal "menu options".
I like how the current owner has given the car their own personal touch. It adds character, at least in my eyes. Too many owners of classic cars become such bores worrying over every little detail.in originality.
Oh gosh, this does have quite a lot of original details, but it also has a degree of personalisation, and it's just the way Alex likes it, I think. Thank you again for watching, sir!
Thank you, Matthew! Yes, we enjoyed this one very much. The strip speedometer and earlier style switches were continued past the facelift on the 2000 SC, and are absolutely delightful.
He most certainly is a lovely car, and will be even better once Alex has a moment to make the improvements she was planning. I did feel like a company executive from 1967 driving this!
When I was a boy my dad bought and restored a last of the line 3500 S, complete with those oh so 70's rostyle wheels. He adapted and fitted an SD1 (LT77 I think) 5 speed gearbox. Was a truly lovely old thing. Wish he kept it.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching! I have owned eight Rovers, although none of them dated from before 1990. I really enjoyed this P6, would like to try some other variants now.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting you could possibly try mine when I eventually finish them. Lol. The v8 is having a 5 speed sd1 gearbox fitted though while my 2000tc will remain standard. I'm also in Hampshire near Portsmouth.
@@stusoldcars4248 , that would be wonderful! We are in Eastleigh, so not far away at all. By all means send me an e-mail (address is about a minute into the video) when you are ready, no rush!
A glorious car which makes a lovely sound. 😎 I prefer the series 2 versions with more of the black trim. I used to see a few of these on the housing estate where I grew up during the 1980s in various states of disrepair. Remember once being intrigued by one with the boot mounted spare wheel.
It's one of those cars which has not really increased in price as much as some others of the time, and so it is still an achievable dream for many, I think.
Haven't been in one of these since I was lad of 16, collected by my late uncle on a summer holiday job. It was a 2200 SC, owned by the company boss. Prior to that, a pal and I got a lift home from school by a gent driving a 3500 automatic. I recall asking him was the top whack of that car was. He replied 115 mph. Not as fast as the manual S models but at least his wouldn't eat its own gearbox. Fabulously plush riding cars these.
Yes, the ride was really smooth, as you will see in the video. The roads aren't necessarily in excellent condition where I was, and yet it dealt really well with them. Very comfortable seats for a car from this era.
What an excellent run down of the car (I'm familiar with the owners channel). I have been a big fan of the P6 both in UK and now back home in Oz. I'm on my seventh example now, which admittedly has always been V8s. Nevertheless during my time in UK (1988-2010) I drove SC and early TC examples. One of the best was a BRG 1960s TC on factory wires fitted with the later 2.2 TC engine. Since being back home, amongst others I've owned a CKD New Zealand assembled 3500 Auto - this is how in the day a customer walked into an Australian showroom and bought a post Series 2 P6 (V8 auto models only, but fitted with the hubcaps found on manual 4-speed 3500S in the UK) - supplied only from NZ. But if you walked into a showroom in the day and wanted a manual 4-speed 3500S, the car was a direct import from UK. Back tracking - just to confuse matters if you wanted an early Series 1 V8 new in the late 60s in Oz, these cars were fully imported (it was the Series 2, CKD cars from NZ which changed the ball game - incidentally these Series 2 cars came in a range of colours which reflected our country - a far cry from the UK colour palette). My finest P6B in the UK was in the 90s, a 1969 Series 1 V8 in April Yellow auto with Ebony leather (sealed rear quarter lights). My current P6 down-under is a 1974 3500S in Lunar Grey, black leather (front ET headrests and rear headrests) on P5B rostyles. I've full history from new which was an Australian living in UK - he ordered it direct from the factory and ticked most of the option box. He bought it home in 1976 and I'm the third owner, its rust free and totally original.
Thank you, Mark! Yes, I made sure to do some proper research on the car before I started, and this is an excellent example to review as it shows the solid base unit, but also the fact that the panels can be rusty, but it's not a big issue. It really wasn't as bad as I thought at all, despite the lack of power steering, it was quite easy to drive. Would like to try some other P6s now. I find it interesting that things like Montegos, Sierras, Triumph 2000s and various other cars which were popular in Britain also had a measure of popularity in Australia and New Zealand. Your current car sounds absolutely lovely!
Yes you should try a Rover 2000 TC, you'll find that quite nice to drive and then get yours hands on a later V8, auto or manual. As to your comment about popularity of Brit cars in Oz, that is correct. From the 1950s well into the 70s they were popular, but from the late 60s Japanese cars started to impact not only Aussie made cars but Brit ones as well. We never had Montegos, Sierras etc in Oz as by then bread and butter cars were not being imported due to costs etc. The 60s was the last real era when you could buy a British car from Mini to Jaguar and everything in between - the choices were very good. From the 70s onwards it reduced considerably leaving effectively a stable few. The Triumph 2000 saloon were very popular here, especially the later 2500/2500S versions - I feel the 6-cylinder engine used in the Triumph was far better than the big 2-litre, 4-cylinder in the P6 - the P6 should have had a 6-cylinder from day one, the harsh engine was out of step with the rest of the car, re ride etc. As you may know Rover experimented with 6-cylinder engines in the P6 in the late 60s, but the V8 came along and the rest is history.
@@marknelson5929 , thank you for the information! I used to watch old Australian series on television in the 1980s and 1990s when I was growing up, and sometimes they would feature cars like Triumph 2000s and 2500s.
Hi Joseph I just joined your channel I remember when these first came out I saw 12 of the on the forecourt of Hammonds of Daybrook what a range of colours as well I often wondered if Rover took the idea of making the panels detachable from the Citroen DS you mentioned the gas turbine I beleive one of those cars is in the national motor museum at Gaydon I think if I remember correctly they did not go into production because they could not run on petrol great video best regards Andy Allen.
That's ever so kind of you to join! Yes, the P6s are an impressive car for the time. They absolutely did borrow the base unit with separate panels construction method from Citroen, by the way. We have a DS19 review coming up soon.
Thank you for the video. Interesting fact: Rover made a 4.3 V8 Prototype and ran it in the Nurburgring 84 Hour Touring Car event where it broke down when leading. Sadly BL cancelled the production of the car as they were winding down their racing activities The Prototype was then shipped Down Under in 1972 I think, and raced in Australian and New Zealand saloon events but it was outclassed by Mustangs, Monaros and Camaros. A disastrous attempt to make it faster was carried out by putting a GM V8 in the car and ruined it. It is still around in Australia but sadly is an unrestorable shell of what a glorious car it was originally. Hope that this information helps.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Google Jim Smith Rover and you will see what became of it. Interestingly the Leyland P76 came out with a similar-sized engine a year or two later.
Like many gt cars of the times, the Rover 2000 can't be judged by its off the line performance. However it would be a mistake to assume it is not a fast car. A 2000 auto will cruise all day at 70mph. Will acelerate quite quickly from 50 to 70mph. Few 4 door sedans could manage 100mph in the sixties. Rover 2000s did.they were fast high speed cruisers for the newly introduced motorways.in the early 80s I had a TC. It wasn't that fast off the line. There was a Mazda rx3 who would always drag me off at the lights. It happened again and again. Till one day became up behind me on the motorway. I floored the Rover and left him in my dust. Sometime later having slowed down alittle they was this whining noise of the overstretched rotary struggled past me. Later I checked an old road test and found the 50 to 80mph speed of the TC was exception ally fast for the time. It certainly taught me a lesson of top gear acceleration vs off the line.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting! If you look on Alex's channel, you will see her take this on a dual carriageway, and it cruises just fine. I wasn't expecting V8 style performance, and I didn't get it, but compared with her P4 (which I drove on the channel last year), it felt quite swift, even if that is also surprisingly capable on longer journeys. I don't agree with the sentiment in the book I read, especially the car isn't frequently used for longer journeys, it was quite nippy around town in particular, and I am sure that they gather speed absolutely fine if necessary. The biggest issue would be the fact that it is only a three speed automatic.
It deserves its place within the classic car pantheon, that is for sure. It's not a perfect design by any means, but it's surprisingly easy to drive for an old car like this.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting! I found this to be much better than expected, especially when compared to the information in the book I had read beforehand.
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My Beautiful Mr Jenkins 🥰 . I've had him for about 12yrs.
Definitely need to pull my finger out with these panels!
I prepped one recently *there's a video on my channel* 😁 .
I'm so Happy Joseph Enjoyed the drive x thank you sir
I had a fantastic time, my friend! Mr Jenkins exceeded my expectations, which had been raised by Mr Richardson waxing lyrical about his P6s. It's one of the few pre-1980 cars that I would actually consider owning (if I had a lot more money), with just a few specification adjustments.
Wow, Alex really has an excellent collection of cars. I love the colour (and some of the accessories).
The P6 is a reminder of a time when Britain led the world with no money and a posh accent.
Rovers executive cars from P5, P6 and SD1 were all so very different from each other but at the same time all excellent cars.
Yes, a very, very good car for the era when we genuinely made some of the most advanced designs in the automotive world from independent luxury car manufacturers. We haven't finished with her collection either!
I believe a P6 is beloved here in the US as they are extremely rare!
I had forgotten that Rover had two glove boxes, being that you could fit the IP on the other side for countries like the US.
Interesting to find out the interior has faux wood, it looks quite realistic!
Also nice to see that it keeps up with modern in-town traffic.
Automatics of this era were not meant to be drag racers but to make driving easier, enjoyable and less stressful, especially for city and in-town driving. A credit to Alex for owning Mr. Jenkins, and a wonderful review of him by yourself Joseph, thank you very much!
And I must say that it is because of you, Alex, Sheldon, that I have subscribed to all of your channels and thoroughly enjoy your content!
Yes, it keeps up just fine with modern traffic in town. They were sold in America, but not many around now. The two glove boxes is a very intelligent move, it is a very thoroughly designed car. Certainly not fast, but good enough for town use, and helps with not breaking the speed limit. Glad you enjoyed this video, sir!
Interesting video. As you say rust on panels is easy fix however inner sills & frame are more problematical, I had to have inner sills done on a 10 year old car so goodness knows what they are like at 59 years old! Boot mounted spare wheel was a factory option, I think it was called a 'touring kit', reinforced boot lid, stretchy wheel cover and Rover Emblem disk on boot lid and a red boot prop to keep boot open with extra weight of the wheel on it
Thank you, Richard! Yes, everyone I spoke to about that rust issue said if the base unit is rotten, then it is time to leave. It's crazy, but you can still pick up a P6 with an MOT in good condition for less than £5,000. Alex has had several in the family now. I really enjoyed this, hoping to drive some more P6 variants at some point.
Quite possibly the best engineered British car ever made. Lovely thing!
The engineering is absolutely fascinating in this car. Quiet by the standards of the era, comfortable and easy to drove, I did enjoy it very much.
I loved this video. I want a p6 and this was a great help. I love this channel and Mr Lloyd. Pete 🇬🇧
Thank you, sir! Glad that this was helpful to you, it was a lovely car to drive.
Quite simply, a thing of beauty. Terrific review.
Glad you enjoyed it, sir! We enjoyed this one, and there are more to come.
Thanks so much for this video. I fell in love with a P6 when I began hunting for my first car. Just trying to learn as much as I can and your content has certainty taught me things!
Thank you very much indeed! We have quite a lot of reviews of classics on the channel now, this was one of my favourites as I had been waiting to drive one for over 30 years.
Work of art! waay ahead of its time at launch, father had a yellow L reg 2.2 TC in the 70s (he swears by them) great video sheldon sorry i mean Joeseph!!
Glad you enjoyed it, sir! Maybe avoid calling me Sheldon in the future, however... We did enjoy this one rather a lot!
I love these! They have a similar system of bolted on panels as the Citroen DS.
Yes, it's very similar. The "skeleton" of the car is known as a base unit, and all the other panels bolt to it.
Great review as always and a testement to Alex for this lovely P6, the P6 from Furious Driving is what got me into Rovers and the aim one day is to own or drive a P6. Rover really made some gorgeous cars.
Yes, I did consult with Mr Richardson before making the video! The Great British Car Journey should perhaps get hold of one of these for people to drive at their museum, a most pleasant experience, although power steering would make it even better, thank you Mr Watters...
The P6 is a genuine executive saloon. They were designed to be reliable, very comfortable, very safe and to be driven to their actual maximum if the owner so desired.
It is a lovely timeless classic design also.
That Viking badge does carry a great deal of engineering prestige with it.
Do you know what? I would buy a Rover 75 tomorrow without a problem.
Even moreso, if the Rover 45 went back on sale tomorrow suddenly, my name would be on an order form immediately. They were knocked for having a dated interior in the early 2000s compared to their contemporaries in the class. Did they really, though ? Go and sit in a 2001 Ford Focus today or a Mk4 Golf or an Astra H . Then sit in any Rover 45 or MG ZS and I bet that you would prefer the MG Rover interior design today. A lot of the time modern does not age very well. The biggest regret with the 45 was not building an estate version to compete with the extremely popular Astra Estate.
At least the P6 provided the option of an estate version .
Enough of my ramblings, do apologise.
I own a 45 1.8 connoisseur auto...i love it .....Had many rovers in my time ans within the last twelve months iv'e had an SD3 and three R8's
The design of the 45 and ZS interior was dated as it was taken from a 1992 Japanese domestic market Honda, the facelifted cars have a different dashboard, but they tend to be worse for electrical and build quality problems. Bizarrely, having a design a generation behind everyone else by the time the 45 was made has helped it become something of a very cheap classic, whereas virtually nothing else in the class is. The Mark IV Golf and Focus Mark I aren't bad, but they just feel old, not retro, if you see what I mean. One 45 Estate was made using the back of a Honda Civic Aerodeck (I think that is what they were called) and the front end of a 45.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I have found some photos and she looks good. The Rover 45 Tourer and an MG ZS Tourer.
It looks really good, I would have bought one. Not as gorgeous as the Rover 400 Tourer but not bad either.
The Focus Estate, the Astra Estate, the 306 SW, the Citroën ZX and Xsara estates all sold in their thousands. The Skoda Octavia Estate was very popular also.
I can understand why the lady is happy and content with what the 'experts' regard as the least desirable model. My Dad had a 60s Ford with the same BW box, even being unrefined compared to a Rover I found it an absolute joy to drive around town, and in the winters of old when snow would be on the ground for weeks it never put a foot wrong. You could be first away from the traffic lights because the reaction time between engaging D and it reaching the rear wheels was so fast. Those boxes would go on for ever (unlike the later Ford boxes) if you changed the oil around 25K miles..not easy as there was no drain plug you had to drop the pan. Cruising all day at 70mph should be no problem for the Rover as it wasn't with the Ford.
It really is a great car and yes like a rocket off the lights haha it shocks some people.
The dipstick tube comes out of the sump for fluid draining, so not too bad.
I've got to change my gearbox soon as it somehow has a hole in the casing...... so when the torque converter drains back in the sump. . . It comes out the hole!! Lol
Yes, this "least desirable" model seemed pretty desirable to me! Would like to try other P6 variants now. Even without power steering, it seemed quite easy to drive, and very comfortable, although door mounted mirrors and inertia reel seat belts would be something of a must for me. I had heard about how good these were, but not actually experienced one on the road for myself, and I am glad that I have now.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thanks for taking the low road - the high road is littered with too many 3.5 P6's in Zircon Blue LOL.My elderly great uncle had a man.TC in beige and the way he drove it,it didn't matter if it had been a SC it was just a nice comfortable car for him to potter around in and take down the M4 every summer..
@@Witheredgoogie , oh yes, an unusual colour for a P6, that is for sure. I just enjoyed wafting around in this 2000 Automatic, as does Alex. Seen quite a few facelifted models in beige.
It's a very handsome car. Great style, very classy. I really like the dedicated manual control knobs and switches. So much better than some infernal "menu options".
It's a veritable feast of 1960s design. Many have slightly different shapes, so it is easier to find them at night. A really nice piece of history.
I like how the current owner has given the car their own personal touch. It adds character, at least in my eyes. Too many owners of classic cars become such bores worrying over every little detail.in originality.
Oh gosh, this does have quite a lot of original details, but it also has a degree of personalisation, and it's just the way Alex likes it, I think. Thank you again for watching, sir!
Wow an automatic from that era!! Nice review
Yes sir! It's not bad, either. Suits the relaxed nature of the car. If you wanted to go fast, you bought the TC or the V8.
Always loved these. Particularly like the strip speedometer. Such a classic and stylish interior.
Thank you, Matthew! Yes, we enjoyed this one very much. The strip speedometer and earlier style switches were continued past the facelift on the 2000 SC, and are absolutely delightful.
Well done Lloyd,
Mr Jenkins is indeed a lovely P6 and was a great follow on from the P5. They were a Company Directors car in the '60s
He most certainly is a lovely car, and will be even better once Alex has a moment to make the improvements she was planning. I did feel like a company executive from 1967 driving this!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Do you know how the car got it's name?
@@jaybee1921 , no idea, sir....
When I was a boy my dad bought and restored a last of the line 3500 S, complete with those oh so 70's rostyle wheels. He adapted and fitted an SD1 (LT77 I think) 5 speed gearbox. Was a truly lovely old thing. Wish he kept it.
Was it Avocado 🥑 😄
@@Alexsassets No, it was mustard yellow.
Oh, I remember the 3500 S models with Rostyle wheels! I need to try some other P6s now, although I liked this one very much.
Really enjoyed the video.
Found it interesting that it used to be the same colour as my 2000tc I have tucked away to restore when I've finished my v8.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching! I have owned eight Rovers, although none of them dated from before 1990. I really enjoyed this P6, would like to try some other variants now.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting you could possibly try mine when I eventually finish them. Lol. The v8 is having a 5 speed sd1 gearbox fitted though while my 2000tc will remain standard.
I'm also in Hampshire near Portsmouth.
@@stusoldcars4248 , that would be wonderful! We are in Eastleigh, so not far away at all. By all means send me an e-mail (address is about a minute into the video) when you are ready, no rush!
A glorious car which makes a lovely sound. 😎 I prefer the series 2 versions with more of the black trim. I used to see a few of these on the housing estate where I grew up during the 1980s in various states of disrepair. Remember once being intrigued by one with the boot mounted spare wheel.
Oh yes, sir! It was actually offered as a factory option, the "Touring Kit"... I don't know whether I prefer the Series I or Series II cars, myself!
I have to own a P6 at sometime in my life..i've wanted one since i was a teenager
It's one of those cars which has not really increased in price as much as some others of the time, and so it is still an achievable dream for many, I think.
Haven't been in one of these since I was lad of 16, collected by my late uncle on a summer holiday job. It was a 2200 SC, owned by the company boss. Prior to that, a pal and I got a lift home from school by a gent driving a 3500 automatic. I recall asking him was the top whack of that car was. He replied 115 mph. Not as fast as the manual S models but at least his wouldn't eat its own gearbox. Fabulously plush riding cars these.
Yes, the ride was really smooth, as you will see in the video. The roads aren't necessarily in excellent condition where I was, and yet it dealt really well with them. Very comfortable seats for a car from this era.
What an excellent run down of the car (I'm familiar with the owners channel). I have been a big fan of the P6 both in UK and now back home in Oz. I'm on my seventh example now, which admittedly has always been V8s. Nevertheless during my time in UK (1988-2010) I drove SC and early TC examples. One of the best was a BRG 1960s TC on factory wires fitted with the later 2.2 TC engine. Since being back home, amongst others I've owned a CKD New Zealand assembled 3500 Auto - this is how in the day a customer walked into an Australian showroom and bought a post Series 2 P6 (V8 auto models only, but fitted with the hubcaps found on manual 4-speed 3500S in the UK) - supplied only from NZ. But if you walked into a showroom in the day and wanted a manual 4-speed 3500S, the car was a direct import from UK. Back tracking - just to confuse matters if you wanted an early Series 1 V8 new in the late 60s in Oz, these cars were fully imported (it was the Series 2, CKD cars from NZ which changed the ball game - incidentally these Series 2 cars came in a range of colours which reflected our country - a far cry from the UK colour palette). My finest P6B in the UK was in the 90s, a 1969 Series 1 V8 in April Yellow auto with Ebony leather (sealed rear quarter lights). My current P6 down-under is a 1974 3500S in Lunar Grey, black leather (front ET headrests and rear headrests) on P5B rostyles. I've full history from new which was an Australian living in UK - he ordered it direct from the factory and ticked most of the option box. He bought it home in 1976 and I'm the third owner, its rust free and totally original.
Thank you, Mark! Yes, I made sure to do some proper research on the car before I started, and this is an excellent example to review as it shows the solid base unit, but also the fact that the panels can be rusty, but it's not a big issue. It really wasn't as bad as I thought at all, despite the lack of power steering, it was quite easy to drive. Would like to try some other P6s now. I find it interesting that things like Montegos, Sierras, Triumph 2000s and various other cars which were popular in Britain also had a measure of popularity in Australia and New Zealand. Your current car sounds absolutely lovely!
Yes you should try a Rover 2000 TC, you'll find that quite nice to drive and then get yours hands on a later V8, auto or manual. As to your comment about popularity of Brit cars in Oz, that is correct. From the 1950s well into the 70s they were popular, but from the late 60s Japanese cars started to impact not only Aussie made cars but Brit ones as well. We never had Montegos, Sierras etc in Oz as by then bread and butter cars were not being imported due to costs etc. The 60s was the last real era when you could buy a British car from Mini to Jaguar and everything in between - the choices were very good. From the 70s onwards it reduced considerably leaving effectively a stable few. The Triumph 2000 saloon were very popular here, especially the later 2500/2500S versions - I feel the 6-cylinder engine used in the Triumph was far better than the big 2-litre, 4-cylinder in the P6 - the P6 should have had a 6-cylinder from day one, the harsh engine was out of step with the rest of the car, re ride etc. As you may know Rover experimented with 6-cylinder engines in the P6 in the late 60s, but the V8 came along and the rest is history.
@@marknelson5929 , thank you for the information! I used to watch old Australian series on television in the 1980s and 1990s when I was growing up, and sometimes they would feature cars like Triumph 2000s and 2500s.
Welcome Joseph to 1960's Britain , marvelous 🚗👅
At least it had servo assisted brakes, a nice automatic gearbox and a good driving position! Steering was a bit heavy, though.
They're great looking cars.
It's a quintessential piece of 1960s British design, I think.
Very interesting and informative 👍
Thank you very much indeed, Sean! More Sensible Secondhand Classics coming up soon.
Absolutely stunning car.
It is indeed, my friend! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Hi Joseph I just joined your channel I remember when these first came out I saw 12 of the on the forecourt of Hammonds of Daybrook what a range of colours as well I often wondered if Rover took the idea of making the panels detachable from the Citroen DS you mentioned the gas turbine I beleive one of those cars is in the national motor museum at Gaydon I think if I remember correctly they did not go into production because they could not run on petrol great video best regards Andy Allen.
That's ever so kind of you to join! Yes, the P6s are an impressive car for the time. They absolutely did borrow the base unit with separate panels construction method from Citroen, by the way. We have a DS19 review coming up soon.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thank you for your reply I look forward to the DS19 reveiw thank you Joseph best regards Andy Allen.
I am getting my friend Mr Bill from the Fuel Power channel to edit it for me.
Nice review 👍
Thank you ever so much indeed, John! More Sensible Secondhand Classics soon.
Thank you for the video. Interesting fact: Rover made a 4.3 V8 Prototype and ran it in the Nurburgring 84 Hour Touring Car event where it broke down when leading. Sadly BL cancelled the production of the car as they were winding down their racing activities The Prototype was then shipped Down Under in 1972 I think, and raced in Australian and New Zealand saloon events but it was outclassed by Mustangs, Monaros and Camaros. A disastrous attempt to make it faster was carried out by putting a GM V8 in the car and ruined it. It is still around in Australia but sadly is an unrestorable shell of what a glorious car it was originally. Hope that this information helps.
Yes, 4.6 litre conversions for these are common. Never heard of that prototype before, sir, but it does sound interesting...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Google Jim Smith Rover and you will see what became of it. Interestingly the Leyland P76 came out with a similar-sized engine a year or two later.
@@alaricbragg7843 , we know about the Leyland P76, sir...
Like many gt cars of the times, the Rover 2000 can't be judged by its off the line performance. However it would be a mistake to assume it is not a fast car. A 2000 auto will cruise all day at 70mph. Will acelerate quite quickly from 50 to 70mph. Few 4 door sedans could manage 100mph in the sixties. Rover 2000s did.they were fast high speed cruisers for the newly introduced motorways.in the early 80s I had a TC. It wasn't that fast off the line. There was a Mazda rx3 who would always drag me off at the lights. It happened again and again. Till one day became up behind me on the motorway. I floored the Rover and left him in my dust. Sometime later having slowed down alittle they was this whining noise of the overstretched rotary struggled past me. Later I checked an old road test and found the 50 to 80mph speed of the TC was exception ally fast for the time. It certainly taught me a lesson of top gear acceleration vs off the line.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting! If you look on Alex's channel, you will see her take this on a dual carriageway, and it cruises just fine. I wasn't expecting V8 style performance, and I didn't get it, but compared with her P4 (which I drove on the channel last year), it felt quite swift, even if that is also surprisingly capable on longer journeys. I don't agree with the sentiment in the book I read, especially the car isn't frequently used for longer journeys, it was quite nippy around town in particular, and I am sure that they gather speed absolutely fine if necessary. The biggest issue would be the fact that it is only a three speed automatic.
When the best cars were British , before German cars dominated that sector of the market . How different could it have been ?
It deserves its place within the classic car pantheon, that is for sure. It's not a perfect design by any means, but it's surprisingly easy to drive for an old car like this.
Love the P6 2000. Happy to have an automatic
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting! I found this to be much better than expected, especially when compared to the information in the book I had read beforehand.
Avengers! Mother! ..also wasn't that guy from tuckers luck a collector of these?
I don't remember the gentleman from Tucker's Luck, sir, I am afraid...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting todd somink
@@lg3359 , not heard of him, sir...
Years ago on one of those old satellite programs unless I dreamt it