23 year old PlayStation 2 console with no video - can we fix it?
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Doesn't even specialize in console repair and the man figured it out. This right here is why we need more good technicians. Also everyone should support the right to repair
I'd also argue if someone can manage to repair apple products, being as difficult and anti repair as they are. Should make a older Sony product a good bit easier
I have no doubt all right to repair laws in place will have loopholes or simply do not cover computer and phone products. According to apple the reason they don't want these laws is so they can -profit- protect the public from unsafe modifications and irreversible damage to products
hes in electronic repair. all electronics follow electrical engineering principles and they all have a schematic. same shit different device
Doing a better job than Dk Oldies 😅
wtf is dkoldies?
@@rossmanngroup Horrible website that sells overpriced games and game systems that are almost always broken. You will have a field day looking at their quality control at the prices they charge.
@@rossmanngroup is independent vintage gaming shop with bad quality of service and games cost more than a console BTW they selling "refurbished consoles" (there not even refurbished correctly) for 100 to 700 dollars there just making money on nostalgia I rather use a emulator and rom site to do games due the developers no longer make the game or money
@@rossmanngroup best reply I could have gotten
@@rossmanngroup In short: Company selling 'refurbished/rebuilt' retro consoles but barely actually do anything to them apart from cleaning out dust. Very overpriced for what they actually do.
Emotion Engine.
That is some name for a CPU.
"CPUs must wash their balls before returning to work, AND STOP CRYING"
The GPU in their next console was the "Reality Synthesizer"
Love me some overly-complex sony hardware lol
@@951258tike22 and the GPU in PS2 is called Graphics Synthesizer
The last good console when you bought a game you owed it and was no dl bs and god i miss a world without all the microtransactions and dlc. I know you have a lot going on and know not what you repair but do love the old retro console repairs and would love to see more always.
The Wii was actually the last one, because while it did connect to the internet, the only update ever released for a retail game was for a Zelda sava data problem, and there weren't any dlc or microtransactions.
Just reminded me I bought a PS2 in 2008 and played Socom 2 breifly. To get online and fix cheats it downloaded a patch to the memory card.
When servers were turned off I used my PC and Xlink Kai as a proxy thing to try it online again...
Of course every time I joined a game I got disconnected, and eventually realised I was booting everyone off the server! I had to delete my save to remove the patch.
At one point there was only one bloke to play against and he kept whooping me so I disconnected lol. There was a lack of PAL games to play and a lot of players in Brazil etc.
I think my MGS3 went online too, but only to download a new camouflage skin.
@@leonro hmm nice to know never got into the wii think i played bowling for like 10 mins
@@kirkanos3968 While I had both playstation and nintendo growing up, the gamecube was better, especial for my larger family (8 kids) and having some great party games. PS3 is where I feel like sony took off with good graphics that dont cut out the possibility of great stories.
@@leonro haha a "Zelda save data problem" yeah that's what Nintendo called the Twilight hack that let us softmod our consoles! Luckily many other softmod exploits were discovered since then. Wii is a super easy console to softmod, opens up many retro gaming opportunities. And much better performance than Raspberry Pi.
right to repair needs more content like this.
thats actually very informative, I have a fat PS2 that had bad video output solid state capacitors, sometimes you would get video and sometimes you wouldn't. I found out that the ouput caps were bad after heating them up with my hot air station, replaced them with better solid state capacitors and is now brand new again, interesting to see that bad resistors cause this too, thanks for the video!
I don't stop by often to board repairs and such, but PS2s made my childhood! It's awesome to see them cared for so many years later.
I feel it's worth mentioning that the glowing ring of dots and some of the other animations on the ps2 menu are tied to the system clock, and there seems to be a glitch in the ps2 menu where after replacing the battery the system clock will be frozen and you can't change the time. However, this can be fixed by trying to set the time, but don't actually change anything because it won't let you (leave it at 1-1-2000 at 12AM) and press accept to set the time. This should restore the ticking of the system clock and allow you to actually set the time.
From what I'm guessing, when you remove the battery, the clock chip doesn't restore a default valid time, and the menu has no clue what to do with it. But by setting the time it will correctly set up the clock chip to something the ps2 can understand.
wish i could bookmark this comment ^^
I didn't know that was a thing thanks, I imagine that will become more of an issue as batteries start to die. I guess we're lucky the Xbox handles it so well, since it was kinda designed expecting the capacitor to regularly run out
The (watch style) battery can often solve so many problems in laptops and towers. Just replace it. New info learned this applies to game consoles as well.
@@tdp2612 if you live in an area with unsteady power (too much or nothing). Batteries croak faster. The caps generally live unless it's a major power surge.
Neat I was wondering why the dots were not moving.
The PS2 is already 23 years old? How depressing is that...
I refuse to believe it.
Everything is depressing to you angsty motherfu**ers
Brace yourselves other electronic repair centers, now that Louis is out of NY prison and is paying sane rent prices, the Rossman Repair Group will be able to make repairs on more than just the most overpriced computers known to man
Yeah. I inherited oscilloscope and wish I knew a repairman that could make it work again. I don't want to die repairing it. I watch this channel as a CSC programmer and I do electrical repair about once a week just for maintainence of my lab and studios. The oscilloscope is out of my depth. I know I could fix it, but why. A repair man like rossman working on the board would record and document everything. Like he said, he recorded the voltages of each pin in a spreadsheet. That is some top shelf (reverse) engineering.
@@complexity5545 Don't worry, electrostatic CRTs are "only" around 1.2kV for deflection, versus up to 32kV for a monitor or TV!
@@ziginoxIt really depends on the speed. The faster the analog oscilloscope, the higher the accelerating voltage, all other things being equal.
The PS2 Xbox classic and the Nintendo GameCube was the best era of gaming and video games hands down
No contest really.
I still have this console, loving it! I think the EE was clocked at 299MHz and some later revisions made it even a little bit faster.
The first models were clocked at 294.912 MHz, later models had it clocked at 299 MHz.
I can't beleive I just watched this whole thing (while eating a mcdouble). I also remember when I was a kid and wanting to make games. This is gold. All my PS still work, but I just wanted to know the guts (so I watch). Gently scraping enamel, record voltages on pins, jumpers; this video had alot and a good study. Lots of nugget info about resisters if you don't have resistors.
23 years it can't be...I remember when they launched...I remember when the NES came out...I have an appointment to get bifocals coming up soon
Awesome video, Louis! Seeing old game systems get repaired warms my retro gaming enthusiast heart :)
PS2 being considered as "retro" now makes me feel old lmao
@@ermonski Same lol. In my mind, the PS3 just came out.
@@toshineon I still have my PS3 to this day. However I just modded it because the games are harder to find physically now. Still a great console!
@@ermonski I never had one when they were popular unfortunately, I did get an old one a few years ago to seem what I missed out on. I do agree, great console with some awesome games. And a few of them like Uncharted and MotorStorm still look good, in my opinion.
@@toshineon MotorStorm Pacific Rift is awesome, man.
It is still just amazing to me how you do the micro soldiering. I don't think I could do it at that small of scale.
Come by and try it!
@Louis Rossmann if I'm ever in Texas I might take you up on that.
6:16 I'd solder the 5th before 4th because of being right-handed with the iron on the right. Easier to not mess up the fourth if trying to solder the fifth after.
10:32 One resistor isn't used on that pack (unless there are some vias hidden underneath). Could jumper to it, or if he wanted practice doing desoldering, rotate the pack 180 degrees. I did this to fix a scanner once, where one of the MOSFETs for the stepper motor had died. Looking up the chip it had some spare unused ones so I wired to one of those.
Gave life back to a legend.
Would love to see more console repair videos. Thoroughly enjoyed this
Great job troubleshooting Louis. I only wish every city had a Rossman Repair Group to learn from and be willing to allow customers in and use their equipment.
Awesome to see a PS2 repair! Great to see a beloved system brought back to life :)
That green tint was driving me nuts. Glad the end resolved it
I'm 24 and I remember getting a ps2 for Christmas. Those things were around for a long time, lol.
I genuinely didn't knew your Store worked on consoles as well, This was quite the surprise.
Man, I wish I were closer to this repair workshop! 😣
Thx you for making a video were you restore my favorite console of all time! Old consoles lives on!
My original PS2 from 2000 developed a bad laser, so it could no longer read disks. Swapping the laser unit from a slightly newer PS2 from ~2005 brought it back to life!
You can also buy new one, and you can load direct from HDD with FreeMcBoot ;)
Free McBoot (+ the Network/IDE HDD adapter) = no optical drive needed
@@gblargg And if I want to load a game off disk?
@@switchp8286 Image it on the PC. And apparently there's FHDB (Free HD Boot) so you don't even need anything special to set it all up, and can set up FMCB on a card if needed later.
@@gblargg If I want to load a game off a disk I need an optical drive attached to my PC. I'm not sure what other method there is.
Damn it Louis, I watched this video, and now every fourth video on my recommended feed is PS2 repair. I've never had a single video effect my recommended so much lol.
11:16 How did you know I was looking to buy the epic flux you use in your work? Thanks for the link.
Louis it's good to see you back in the saddle. Where you are at your best. You as a person? no thanks. You as a teacher: HELL YEAH!
it would be really interesting to see PS3 repairs done by you
Not sure about unsteady hands, Louis. I hazard your hands are a lot more steady moving out of NYC and taking that stress out of your life. Has it really been 23 years since the PS2 ? Mine is on a shelf downstairs in the basement - I'd better dig it out to play shadow of the colossus. Hopefully with no repair before doing so!.
I bought a broken gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB for 40 in the beginning of 2021 when the working 1060's cost over 150 used and the fuse was blown.
I did not have a fuse on hand so i just put in a blob of solder over the old fuse and tested it out on a old core 2 quad system and it came back to life.
I did some stress testing to check if the VRM was still good and it still works to this day.
297ish mhz
Single CPU core with 2 Vector units... think like superfpus
emotion engine with a 4mb frame buffer, I think it was internal super wide bus 1500ish bit
my last console, incredible stuff for 2000
I do like the repair streams you used to do in the old days. So satisfying ! Thx Louis
You're a genius man. Thank you for being present for us all. Greetings and all the best from Barcelona.
From Phone and Tablet Repair Guy to Retro Video Game Console Repair Guy! I LOVE TO SEE MORE! Nice one Louis Rossmann! =D
Love this content, wish you were near DC/VA area but thats life.
Glad to see you back to your roots.
Could you not replace that resistor bank with a set of through hole resistors from any electronics shop, would be the same as jumping it, but removing the chip first
It is probably way too tiny for that. The legs are too small to hold a lead, the leverage would break the joint unless you glued each resistor down first and ran a jumper to it (and then, what is the advantage?). Resistor arrays are super common, if you want to go to the level of buying something you can just order a matching one from Digikey or Mouser.
Other than the output feed being way greener than it should be, likely indications of a dying chip, this was a great tutorial video!
That was because the output was set wrong. YCbCr instead of RGB. He fixed it by going into the menu and changing it
@@mhammadalloush5104 Ooooh, good catch. I didn't use the component cables that much with that system so I wouldn't have caught that.
@@Lenophis the PS2 outputs composite and component(YPbPr) simultaneously by default, so If you lived in the US that setting does not need to be changed at all, he changed the video output to RGB which is a standard used primarily on european televisions ever since the 80s.
Unlike the american standard which uses seperate RCA plugs for each signal(which means you need 5 plugs for component+stereo audio), europe had a predecessor to HDMI called SCART which carries composite, RGB, and audio on a single plug.
I really wish you would do more retro console repairs. And maybe show off some mods for those like Macho Nacho Productions
I remember when ps2 controllers are bullet proof controllers that last forever even their joys stick last long time even for potentiometer at the time
Yeah it makes me boil that Nintendo won their joycon drift lawsuit
@@gracedbypete then again you can buy gulikit hall affect joysticks to give a middle finger to Nintendo
Ture heros who make a permanent solution against the first partys mistakes
@@MrTheinfoman don't be dense you retard you don't think I'm aware of third party options.I WANT THE COMPANY WHO MAKES THE ORIGINAL HARDWARE TO MAKE PROPER HARDWARE AND BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
@@MrTheinfoman I bet you're a dumb retard who pre orders games too
woah Louis doing a board repair - its been so long - didnt know you still do these;)
all i ever see from you is right to repair & new your government incompetence stuff
not a complaint - just a pleasant suprise to see a little of what used to be the main subject of the channel
Glad I watched right to the end as I was like, "need to go into the menu to fix the green screen". Lo and behold...
You should do more of these
That looks like interference lines we had them a lot at a plant I used to work out. it was the wireless transmitters on the equipment. we just made a little metal box that went around the camera and it solved it for us.
i just picked up 2 ps2 slims that are faulty and this vid gave me a few more things to think about for finding issue. heres hope i can fix them
I have no clue what's going on but for some reason I enjoyed this
How come my Commodore 64 still works perfectly even after nearly 40 years and heavy use? It shouldn't be possible...
old systems are build quite well and tend to not run at the upper limit of their capabilities or capabilities of the materials. Fuck, I know at least one C64 that still is used in an automotive shop to type receipts and such. Only big issue C64's have are the power supplies as they tend to break and take the system with it, but these days it's easy to get a modern replacement. (and audiophile are the biggest plague to living C64's)
@@relo999 thanks, yeah I have replaced the power supply and cassette deck, but the main board and everything else is 100% original!
i just checked, every set of more than 16 different values included a number of 47ohm in it's sets.
only set4 that didn't have 47ohm was a triple set including two values of either 4.7 & 47 / 470 & 4.7k or 47k & 470k in each offering thus giving all six values if you bought all three sets
Glad to see this one could be fixed. Maybe there's still hope for mine, too.
i hope you work another retro console again like a super nintendo with no audio problem nice video 😍😊
3:55 Looks like two of the pins are connected with a speck of solder. The 5th and 6th one over from left on the bottom. Chip in middle of screen
Seeing the ps2 start screen takes me back to a simpler time
I was worried that the output was green at the end, but thankfully, they switched it to RGB and it's fixed :D
23 years? We're getting older...remembered fixing a few power supplies for the "phat" model and made one run on just batteries. Lasers tend to die on the early ones too. Can't tell them enough to clear out the dust. Haven't encountered termination resistor failure though...might get myself a broken one to repair, mod (Modbo - no more Matrix, so long...) and play GT4 on! Even GTA:SA looked a few laps ahead compared to PC, the once-seen beauty of dedicated hardware.
Well now I wish I lived by you.
I got a SNES I need to figure out and fix.
A mad man to work on that a mad man
Heh, the resistor bank at 10:25 is only using 7 of the 8 resistors. Seeing the last one went bad you could have shifted it along or turned it around instead of jumping the bad resistor.
The PS2 the machine nearest to perfection!
It just needs to be "upgraded" to hdmi/wide-screen.
And it's games remastered for wide-screen.
@rossmanngroup lines or noise of microscope on microscope are poor contacts on microscope wires. Check that.
first time i see you fixing something actually worth fixing!
2:00 Sony EmotionEngine
My meme brain: "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!" 😂🤣
And it is still kicking ass to this day!!!
I love this type of content. Just to watch and learn.
Thanks for the vids Louis!
Good stuff Louis!
Bob the builder: Can we fix it? Yes we can!
Defying the corporate world from redefining our reality into a subscription based payment model comes in many forms.
Your work gives hope to people who are too aware of whats happening in this country.
Retro stuff looks good!
This video makes me want to dig through my closet and look for my old PS2.
Makes me wonder if my PS2 units (both fat w/ network adapter) still work as well.
yayyyyyy it's back to RGB color setting
GG
My hypothesis before I start watching......Cheetos in the RCA jacks.... Let us proceed
At 6:48 you bumped into the microscope camera. That's when the noise really started, it was much better before. Don't blame it :(
I'm confused as to why you can bypass the resistors with just a wire. Wouldn't this mean that the intended resistance for that trail is no longer there? And it works anyways without that resistance?
So, why is the resistor there in the first place?
it can work without the resistor, but its not intended to, it may break after some use or after a smaller malfunction that could be avoided with the resistor
The memories of the that boot up screen
So what consequences does jumping do? Is there any risk? Like will longtime play effect it?
3:30 - that looks like a Guilty Spark if I ever saw one 🧐
Great job, Louis! Another video of great content!
If I lived a couple of thousand kilometres close... I have a restored PSOne Slim that needs an Xstation mod, but I'm too afraid of soldering that and mess out with everything to a beyond repair extent. LOL
Well done Louie are you going
to start on walkmans next ?lol
Slight problem with the encompass link, part is NLA now. Go figure how it happened so quick.
On the plus side, the guys at encompass are good at doing some searching for you first before they just cancel the order.
Wasn’t there a study done about the number 47 showing up again and again ?
wait! you do board repairs? i thought this was a real-estate/lobbying channel
Not a great judge of size (or so I'm told) but through hole resistors may be an option there in a pinch
"hacking" this thing as a young man was the biggest investment in my youth. all those white CD copies. hahaha
I still have a ps2 and barely ever used it in comparison to the ps1
Cool. Never seen a console repair on this channel before.
Thank you Louis !
cool stuff, thanks for sharing
You gotta do a DK oldies parody. BC Collectables. Blackberry Clinton.
Dang, I have like 10 Gameboy cartridges I need to take the batteries out of, and replace with low profile battery holders. I've got a soldering iron, and I can do it, but it will take time. It'd be super nice to be able to use the equipment there, but sadly I live probably 1500 miles from there, so coming in to a workshop at least in the near future is out of the question.
23 years old? Damn.
what is up with the microscope cam? looks like it has interlacing artifacts
If you're not too familiar repairing PS2 systems, just know that Sony made a shit ton of revisions to the system in its lifespan, especially the fat model. Keep that in mind when you're going to swap parts from one PS2 to another.
Do more retro repairs please 😀
Awesome. Love ps2, maybe do a mod video. Install a mod chip to play other type of media 🤔
You fix PS2s? Do you do PS3s? What would be your rate to re-ball a 60gb backwards compatible PS3 with lead solder?
Reballing is bullshit and not repair
@@rossmanngroup Fair enough
i'm an electrical dumb-dumb but if those resistors have a footprint, throughput, and pinout same as another resistor that actually has a label, would that label one be a drop in replacement or are there other things involved in picking replacements?
Wasn't some of the lower pins short circuited?