@@KokoroKatsura speaking of anime, pirating anime is next to impossible for me now if i don’t use adblock. 9anime and kissanime are basically impossible to use without adblock.
*remember in the early two thousands people whinging about the ads on relaxation/asmr videos, I couldn't even think of internetting without an adblock, virus guard, and malware alert.
Google is smart. They know it is impossible to completely eliminate Adblock, just like a piracy. If there's a will, people will find a way to overcome it. That's why it can be deal with the same way by remove friction, reduce the will/need of people to seek for alternatives.
It is definitely possible to almost eliminate ad-blocking on TH-cam website. Google could, for instance embed ads directly into videos and/or add a million checks. The use of intrusive techniques may annoy tech-savvy users but they probably don’t like being forced to see ads anyway. I don’t think people would want to pirate TH-cam videos so that don’t see a 15-second ad.
@@Y2B123 directly into video ? like how, you mean like literally cut the video put a ad there and then play that video. nah its a nightmare to deal with on the software side of thing. 1) it will slow down video load times coz video rendering takes time and youtube serves million of people every second. 2) ad's are not preset as everyone knows they are served on the go so you will be rendering ads in videos on the go. all of this will polly cost more in server infrastructure than adblocking ever will imo. also it what about premium users. i guess a different api for premium using might work. lol imagine faster video load as a feature for premium users
@@siliconhawk You don't necessarily need to render the \*entire* video. If I'm correct, some video platforms serve their videos in chunks - so once you get to a certain part of the video, the client will then request the next chunk of the video. In this case, you could send the ad as it's own chunk, but send the same response data as you would for normal chunks of the video. Of course, ad blockers might then start keeping a database of video data for known chunks containing ads. The solution to this might be to add a bit of static fuzz or white noise to some of the frames, meaning the video data for that ad is a bit difference. Yes, this would mean that you would have to do a bit of rendering - but you would only need to do so every few hours, as you can send the chunk with white noise to many users before the ad blocker updates it's data base (and the client fetches the new ad blocking database). The server would likely spend far more work processing new actual video uploads (things like compressing the video) then having to occasionally add white noise to an ad to throw off ad blockers. Of course, I could be completely wrong.
You know what is a loss for them? >ReVanced TH-cam Mobile, and TH-cam Music Mobile if you're into that. >uBlock Origin, not paid to whitelist ads like ABP >Librewolf, a Firefox fork pre-tuned for privacy >IceRaven on mobile, fork of Firefox mobile with extremely enhanced addon support. >Addons like CanvasBlocker, ClearURL, Privacy Badger/Possum, NoScript, and more I call it the Scorched Earth Anti-Tracking collection, take a SEAT and relax.
Pretty much this. Also vivaldi with the optional ads turned off and probably ddg browser. Also switching to startpage or ddg so that they don't have access to your search data.
@@momentomori1747 Vivaldi is closed source, trust it at your own risk, and DDG has grown tainted with time, though they have backtracked on the more obvious moves in which they got caught. For search, I'm currently using Qwant, though Startpage is also good.
Technically you can almost certainly be fingerprinted but Google doesn’t appear to be doing that right now for conventional ad purposes. I may have not caught up on this since I usually don’t see ads anyway.
What do u use as a substitute for TH-cam Vanced now that they've been taken down? I still want an ad free TH-cam experience but can't seem to find an alternative.
@@leowzhilin i use TH-cam vanced I Bluetooth shared the installer from my old phone to my new one I don't think you can get it anymore without doing something completely illegal or possibly dangerous (malware?)
Honestly? If Google is indeed following this approach, that is making ads less and less intrusive and annoying... that is a move that I welcome. The very point of an adblocker is to get rid of ads that are ANNOYING, obtrusive... ones that ruin your browsing experience. If they can (and it seems so) tone it down to a level that it's almost invisible, or at least not annoying, then by all means, that is a far more welcome approach.
yes! Because you are more willing to buy a product of from a good add than to a annoying add website think that more adds = more money, but in reality is more clicks = more money and with more adds there is less clicks per add
Yes , actual ads that are low key work for me, Kills me that legit corp have obvisous scam ads or ones that are just too in your face. If you are in my face like that better be free. Just wish ad companies saw they would be better low key.
google is so big, anything you do is good for them you are alive and breathing, it's good for them you are using google, it's good for them you are not using google, it's good for them you don't use ad blocker, it's good for them you use ad blocker, it's good for them
If Google didn't cared they would not try to cripple them on manifest v3. You will need to give permission to adblock to be used on each site, and their filter can't be updated easily anymore
And that's why I switched to Firefox Also, AdBlock has gone to shit. It stopped blocking TH-cam ads, and it leaves some banners and videos on different sites. So I switched to uBlock
@@diablo.the.cheater when you got that many tabs open, how do you track what's in those tabs? I'm not saying it's wrong to have a ton of tabs open but any more then 10 tabs and I'm starting to loose track of what all I got open. so I'm legit curios on how you manage to track what's going on with so many tabs open?
Only tech savvy individuals thinks of using ad block. With that, Implementing a built in AdBlock would be a shot in the foot since you are introducing it to your avg joe and they watch ads the most
This is a win-win-win. Users are not annoyed, advertisers get more realistic results, and Google gets its revenue. Also, it's true that people will really find a way if they don't want ads. Shutting down AdBlock will just make the urge to avoid ads stronger.
On a recent visit to a friend's home, he was showing my something on his PC. I was horrified by crap, adverts and all sorts of rubbish flying about his browser. Having used an Ad Blocker for many years I had no idea the rubbish people have to put up with without Ad Blocker. Needless to say, he now had ad blocker. Every time we talk, he thanks me!
@Closet Faggotry Of course it happens! I've noticed it too, an awful experience on other people's computers. One time I shared the dictionary site I used, and she told me it was too awful with ads; I introduced her to the ad blocker and she started using that site.
"every time we talk he thanks me" sounds very hyperbolic, simply because the average Joe would have other things in life to talk about than a Web browser.
I install adblock on every browser I use, with permission from the PC owner but Nobody has ever thanked me. Maybe once. I still think the worse type of ads are the ones creators incorporate in their content, and we can't escape them.
if the adblock was not there, the open-source community will make the ultimate adblocker that will completely shut down google's breath, this is the modern technique of the Art of war.
And the open source community can drop the hammer on google and no one would care. Google goes too hard against OS and that will be bad PR. Just like suing for thousands a song. Did they have the right? Yep but bad PR changed that.
There is already an open source "ultimate ad blocker" uBlock Origin will block anything, if you use a custom DNS and block trackers and ads you'll probably never see an ad again
1:55 Piracy isn't an economical damage in industry. It's free advertisement from people who would have never bought the product to begin with, spreading good feedback to people who now will buy the product.
The primary reason I'd never leave Android is because of the ease of Ad-blocking. A browser like Kiwi almost functions like a desktop browser when extension are needed.
You don’t need an android for Adblock. I’m on my IPhone right now watching this video on Brave browser, which has a built in Adblock. There are options on both OS’s now, android doesn’t own this niche anymore.
My father (90) was confused by the ads, did not recognize the difference between the ad and the actual content he was looking for (for example searching information about solar panels and ending up changing electricity provider), ad are discriminatory and confusing for aged persons. So I added the extension and his surfing became much more comprehensible.
If you're not willing to see the ad in the first place, the ad is wasted on you and Google doesn't earn money from the click. Filtering yourself out means that ad is more likely to land in front of someone who will click
@@minbcraft I disagree- A situation I have heard a lot about is during medical emergencies, where the time it takes for a combined 30 seconds of unskippable ads on a first-aid tutorial could literally mean the difference between life or death.
Your videos are so watchable - perfect length, good audio, clean graphics, and the topics are distinct from everyone else in the space. I appreciate your team’s efforts!
I actually used to not have adblock on mobile because I couldn't be bothered to set it up. But the intrusive, 10 times louder than the video unskippable youtube ads changed my mind. Making the ads less annoying is the way to go.
Don't get me started on unskippable ads. I loathe them and half the time, I have my finger on the skip button only to find out it's 2 unskippable ads! 😭
exactly. I've never clicked an ad. If I see something that I do think is interesting, Ill open a new tab and look for it myself. And if the ad is very intrusive I reward that by never buying their product even if I know I would like it.
I made a beeline for this video once I learned of the news. This'll probably be an arms race between adblock developers and Google. Unless they change the video protocol, I don't think they'll be able to stop it.
It used to. They disabled it just for the ad revenue reasons. I remember using ublock as ad blocker on Android chrome and one day boom. No longer compatible.
@@Sohailali1 Its the reason I'm using Firefox on mobile. I like Chrome, but I want a very similar experience from what I have on my PC, and I'm not going to suffer trough the miserable experience of surfing the web on mobile without an adblocker.
Louis Rossman says his pay through ad clicks is almost nothing. He said if you sent him $1 once, that would be more money than watching all of his videos with ads. He advises using ad blocker to watch videos and sent creators a buck or two instead that way google doesn't even get a cut. This is of course directed at people willing to send a little coin to their favorite content creators. not the ones who want everything for free.
I believe in being fair: If a website provides me with valuable content and only shows a few discreet ads at the side of the page, I disable ABP for that site. If everyone blocks all ads, we'll lose most of our favourite sites. Simple.
My only complain to google is the double ads at the start of a video in TH-cam, that's the reason I started using ad blocks. I felt like it has gone is too far
Google is planning on removing manifest v2 in favor of v3. Manifest v3 will severely limit all adblockers since v3 doesn't allow for extensions to check urls which is something that all adblockers use to block ads.
my only "issue" with this is that everyone is calling it a "loss" as if they first had $35 billion and we somehow took that from them. That's not a loss, it's unachieved potential gains. They don't "lose" money, they just don't make as much as their forecasting models predicted. it's all just words to make you feel empathy and emotional that a company like Google "lost $35 billion bc people used adblock 🥺😢" its not even the videos fault, it just grinds me gears when companies and articles use the whole "Company X lost $Y amount of money"
Probably the biggest reason I started using ad blocking was that it got rid of the annoying ads on TH-cam that one cannot skip like one can with a TV ad (after pausing for a while) or ad in the video itself. Those are the very worst ads for me. I would have minded ads a lot less if they did not exist. Currently I _finally_ have enough money that I can afford TH-cam Premium without going broke, so that creators on TH-cam can be paid despite my multiple layers of ad blockers. I wish a similar system existed that could be spread across all the other sites I visit. I cannot afford a subscription for every small site I visit for a bit, and am not willing to be harassed and brainwashed by ads, but would be happy to pay a decent sized blanket payment for everything as long as I can afford it.
I remember a TH-camr explaining to money they make from ads etc and also TH-cam Premium. I think it was something like you needing to watch the channel for 20 years for them to get as much as if you donated 1$. So better just donate to the channels you like and continue blocking ads and ignoring Premium.
This video uses the term "adblock" to mean the actual extension with that name, and ad blockers in general. Google pays Adblock to whitelist their ads, but that is also the reason Adblock is not the recommended ad blocked to use, Ublock Origin is. It makes it sound like Google is happy you are blocking ads, and then gives arguments that only apply to Adblock, not ad blocking (with ad blockers that actually work), along with arguments that actually apply to all ad blockers, but that's not interchageable.
I disagree that Google's main objective is attention. They only want to not lose attention because diverting attention to competitors can indirectly drop their own ad revenues... so their goal is still the ad revenues. They also have a side-goal of supporting government propaganda and corporatist government with censorship. I've been very confused as to why Google would allow something that blocks their own ads in their own app store for a long time. This makes sense now! Good explanation!
I've never understood the ad model. For me the best way to convince me to not buy a product is to show me how much money they're willing to waste convincing me to buy a product instead of applying that money to product development. I understand that they need to inform people that they have a product to sell, but I only need to see the ad for it once, not 10 times an hour every hour. Also if I'm convinced that I want something I saw in an ad I'll preferentially get the cheaper genaric version of it because I don't support wasting money on ad's
Haven't used adblock in years, since they started the whole "less intrusive ads" allowance. Instead, I just download a custom hosts file that's updated occasionally for my desktop and block the most intrusive ones at my router, so I don't have to see them on any of my devices. Also, AdGuard on my mobile devices, when I'm not home.
It's ironic how I actually found my go to browser that has built in adblock, from an ad. Yup, I found brave through an ad, and even though the ad was fully animated, it did convince me to switch.
60% of youtube traffic comes from mobile devices ( unable to use adblock ). The only people who know about adblock are more 'tech savvy' because you have to find your way around extensions and settings etc. Chances are laptop users are majority of desktop devices ( I think anyway ) as it could be work laptop or so on. The only people who care about adblock are the PC users and that takes a minority now within the grand audience, so changing things related to adblock isn't going to make more money compared to algorithms + watch time. It's priority is far down the list.
I mean, there are ways to get youtube app with adblock on mobile. It's just that you have to be slightly more tech savvy than for an ad block extension
@@utc_3 Can't live without Revanced, When I tried using regular TH-cam I was horrified by the number of ads there was. It was actually ruining the TH-cam experience
You are right. I hate ads. I would 100% not use chrome if it didn't block ads. It would also make me not want whatever product if they had ads. Automatic turn off.
@@charlech It's an interface that ad blockers need to work properly. In a few months Google will start removing it from Chrome (this will also affect MS Edge and every other browser based on Chrome). After that ALL Chrome ad blockers will either not work or be less effective. Time to move to Firefox or Safari if ad blocking is important to you.
@@sl9sl9 It won't affect edge(probably). Edge is based on chromium so even if Manifest V3 is introduced they can make tweaks to the code to allow the manifest V2 extensions to work or they can just not implement V3.
Honestly, considering their overwhelming market share in internet browsing, eliminating the little competition they had in online advertisement is VERY Smart.
That's definitely an important purpose to be sure (and its why I refuse to turn off adblock even for websites I'd really like to support - can't trust the advertisers). But its hardly the only - or even main - purpose. The main purpose is to deal with those pages that fill 80% of the screen real estate with ads to the point where you have trouble even finding the tiny frame where the actual content resides. And then when you do find an ad that interests you, you click on it and you're directed to another page full of ads trying to upsell you 17 other products and once you sift through that mess you discover they pulled a fast food burger trick on you - the ad looks fantastic but when you get to the actual purchase page it becomes obvious that they're just selling crap. (Goes back to not being able to trust the advertisers again. For a less nefarious reason this time, but no less annoying.) I mean you've never really been able to trust advertisers whether its in magazines and newspapers or on billboards or on TV or now on the internet. But the relatively low cost of internet advertising combined with ad platforms' sometimes-lax verification practices when onboarding advertising partners and well.. adblock or similar is all but necessary for anyone who spends more than a few minutes a day online.
Adverts drive me mad. If I did not have Ad Block it would change how and what I view. Even on TV, I record everything and skip past every add, station promo and other rubbish I simply do not wish to see. I stopped subscribing to Sky TV because they charge you a subscription and STILL show adds. The ultimate insult.
I use ad block on my computer. I also have an app that automatically skips ads when the 3 seconds is up on mobile TH-cam. In the past I used a 3rd party version of the TH-cam app that blocked ads, let me listen to music with the screen off and much more. I also rooted one of my old phones and installed a phone level ad block that blocked almost everything, everywhere on the phone. I guess you can say I have a history of not wanting to see ads.
I have been using adblockers for years. I absolutely hate ads. When DVR was new, it was an amazing feeling to be able to fast forward through the commercials to continue watching my favorite shows. I rarely if ever watched them live from that day forward. I had even gone as far as to pirate some shows if I was forced to watch them without the ability to fast-forward (I'm looking at you, Comcast on-demand).
I almost never see ads anywhere on the web. I've been using ad lockers since ad lockers were a thing. It's also the reason I don't watch cable TV or listen commercial radio. I will not put up with ads constantly irritating me. Even before the internet I used to rip the intrusive ads out of magazines. I also don't use Googles browser or search engine. Sadly there is no alternative to TH-cam, so I'm stuck with that, but still without ads on both desktop and mobile.
I use it but TH-cam is whitelisted. Partly because some ads are actually entertaining on their own. I also don't mind for things actually relevant to me. Unfortunately Google's algorithm seems to screw up that part constantly.
I can't remember the last time I got a relevant ad on TH-cam. I like movies, videogames, tv shows, and the occasional "as seen on tv" type product. That doesn't seem that out of the question, right? What do I get? Manscaping (don't shave), wireless earbuds (literally never found a pair of earbuds that fit both my misshapen ear canals), tiktok (I refuse to willingly download CCP spyware), metaverse (why on earth is that even a thing), food delivery apps (if I'm not cooking I want to actually go out to eat), air b&b and similar (I prefer hotels and motels), cell phone providers (while I enjoy Ryan Gosling and Mint Mobile, I'm happy with my coverage), mobile phone "games" (sarcasm quotes because they are hardly games), and all sorts of things that I don't want. I honestly don't know how half of a movie or games budget can go to marketing because I literally don't see advertisements for the movies and games.
As if there ever was a pleasant ad experience! The only thing I ever remember about any ad I've seen, is looking for a way to skip them. I never bought anything from the few ads I had to suffer seeing. If a product advertises, it only means it's increasing the price I have to pay in order to inflict evil ads on people, so they do Not get my custom. 9f course I don't use chrome or any Google sponsored adblocker (what's the point).. There are ways to block everything
Well, people like you (and also me, and many people here) are very, VERY minority. We are at most 20% in the big picture. We are like how enlightened/intellectual people look like for an average state. On top of that, we actually have way less power than those intellectuals since most of us are tech-savvy people, so we actually don't have the social-skill requirements to make an average joe understand what is the problem with this whole situation; whereas normal intellectuals are a bit better in this regard. This diminishes our "effective presence" (a term I made up at this moment) even further, which decreases our value to be noticed. The only thing that can hurt a giant like Google is to make everyone around us switch to _true_ adblockers, and there are probably millions of internet users who don't even have a familiar OS adblocker user who is also willing to spread this adblocked-internet-experience. Hence, we are merely ants in eyes of Google, we are not taken seriously in any way.
03:08 google pays apple to keep using google search engine on safari, same goes with for samsung and it mobile search app. and google now introduced the manifest V3 which will make it impossible to adblockcs to stop "some" ads, Mozila promised to keep support for it. Nice vid though
They are taking steps though. Quite severe steps. The new upcoming chrome version will severely break adblockers under the guise of "increased privacy". The update haven't rolled out yet, but when it does and its indeed as bad as some people claim; I might have to switch to firefox.
You misquoted an article. The article said "AdBlock can't block ads in the TH-cam app" and you quoted it as "no ad blocker can block ads on the TH-cam app". That's wrong. You absolutely can block ads on the TH-cam app
literally just added adblock as im finding way too many annoying ads on my google results (not on the actual search but the link after the search) now I'm super confused lol
Hey man I think there’s a really high frequency background noise coming from your mic, I don’t hear it during cutscenes but do when you’re talking, it’s not something I’ve noticed from other TH-camrs but it’s there on a few of your videos I’ve watched- it’s kind of headache inducing
The one thing that google needs to realise is that it has to make ads that don't ruin the experience of a service ,they should blend into the UX and feel as if were an integral part of it(i am here mostly talking about google ads on websites). The best example of such a thing are reddit ads. Also there are open source youtube clients or modified youtube apps.Also chrome on android doesn't support extension and most people don't mind changing therir browser as long as they can do their thing.
It's been over a decade since I went online without adblock. A non-adblocked web is just a foreign experience to me at this point.
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@@KokoroKatsura speaking of anime, pirating anime is next to impossible for me now if i don’t use adblock. 9anime and kissanime are basically impossible to use without adblock.
@@KokoroKatsurago touch grass
*remember in the early two thousands people whinging about the ads on relaxation/asmr videos, I couldn't even think of internetting without an adblock, virus guard, and malware alert.
I just can't stand the normal internet now. Ublock origin and brave browser and DNS ad blocking has done wonders to my sanity.
Google is smart. They know it is impossible to completely eliminate Adblock, just like a piracy. If there's a will, people will find a way to overcome it. That's why it can be deal with the same way by remove friction, reduce the will/need of people to seek for alternatives.
I watched too many cat videos, now I turned into a cat, meow purrr purrr, 😮
It is definitely possible to almost eliminate ad-blocking on TH-cam website. Google could, for instance embed ads directly into videos and/or add a million checks. The use of intrusive techniques may annoy tech-savvy users but they probably don’t like being forced to see ads anyway. I don’t think people would want to pirate TH-cam videos so that don’t see a 15-second ad.
@@Y2B123 directly into video ? like how, you mean like literally cut the video put a ad there and then play that video. nah its a nightmare to deal with on the software side of thing.
1) it will slow down video load times coz video rendering takes time and youtube serves million of people every second.
2) ad's are not preset as everyone knows they are served on the go so you will be rendering ads in videos on the go.
all of this will polly cost more in server infrastructure than adblocking ever will imo.
also it what about premium users. i guess a different api for premium using might work. lol imagine faster video load as a feature for premium users
I dont know if google should be smart. They can just be dumb and let small companies get some share.
@@siliconhawk You don't necessarily need to render the \*entire* video.
If I'm correct, some video platforms serve their videos in chunks - so once you get to a certain part of the video, the client will then request the next chunk of the video. In this case, you could send the ad as it's own chunk, but send the same response data as you would for normal chunks of the video.
Of course, ad blockers might then start keeping a database of video data for known chunks containing ads. The solution to this might be to add a bit of static fuzz or white noise to some of the frames, meaning the video data for that ad is a bit difference. Yes, this would mean that you would have to do a bit of rendering - but you would only need to do so every few hours, as you can send the chunk with white noise to many users before the ad blocker updates it's data base (and the client fetches the new ad blocking database). The server would likely spend far more work processing new actual video uploads (things like compressing the video) then having to occasionally add white noise to an ad to throw off ad blockers.
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
You know what is a loss for them?
>ReVanced TH-cam Mobile, and TH-cam Music Mobile if you're into that.
>uBlock Origin, not paid to whitelist ads like ABP
>Librewolf, a Firefox fork pre-tuned for privacy
>IceRaven on mobile, fork of Firefox mobile with extremely enhanced addon support.
>Addons like CanvasBlocker, ClearURL, Privacy Badger/Possum, NoScript, and more
I call it the Scorched Earth Anti-Tracking collection, take a SEAT and relax.
Pretty much this. Also vivaldi with the optional ads turned off and probably ddg browser. Also switching to startpage or ddg so that they don't have access to your search data.
@@momentomori1747 Vivaldi is closed source, trust it at your own risk, and DDG has grown tainted with time, though they have backtracked on the more obvious moves in which they got caught. For search, I'm currently using Qwant, though Startpage is also good.
I like Kiwi browser on Android
Technically you can almost certainly be fingerprinted but Google doesn’t appear to be doing that right now for conventional ad purposes. I may have not caught up on this since I usually don’t see ads anyway.
I'd like to see a Librewolf android fork honestly. Is IceRaven similar in experience?
If Google bans Adblock, people will all of a sudden discover just how much competing browsers and search engines have caught up these days
Allegedly
Ong get your money up not your funny up
Most browsers are based on chromium anyway, so you have very very few alternatives
@@TonyFromChicago_ Definitely. Bing >>> Google. Edge >>> Chrome. Only Google maps is still superior.
Bing AI
Ublock Origin, Sponsorblock, TH-cam Vanced, Return TH-cam dislike, Dark Reader, IDM are things that really enhanced my Internet experience.
What do u use as a substitute for TH-cam Vanced now that they've been taken down? I still want an ad free TH-cam experience but can't seem to find an alternative.
@@leowzhilin TH-cam Vanced still works but if you want latest updates, Use TH-cam Revanced.
@@leowzhilin i use TH-cam vanced
I Bluetooth shared the installer from my old phone to my new one
I don't think you can get it anymore without doing something completely illegal or possibly dangerous (malware?)
@@Xnoob545 you can get it still from a mirror
@@leowzhilin use YT ReVanced
Honestly? If Google is indeed following this approach, that is making ads less and less intrusive and annoying... that is a move that I welcome. The very point of an adblocker is to get rid of ads that are ANNOYING, obtrusive... ones that ruin your browsing experience. If they can (and it seems so) tone it down to a level that it's almost invisible, or at least not annoying, then by all means, that is a far more welcome approach.
yes! Because you are more willing to buy a product of from a good add than to a annoying add
website think that more adds = more money, but in reality is more clicks = more money and with more adds there is less clicks per add
The very point of add block is to block every add!
Yes , actual ads that are low key work for me, Kills me that legit corp have obvisous scam ads or ones that are just too in your face. If you are in my face like that better be free. Just wish ad companies saw they would be better low key.
I concur. I didn't mind the ads at all but the only reason I use adblock is because of their annoying, overly obtrusive ads.
I want every single ad gone, no exceptions. Every ad agency deserves the wood chipper.
This has aged like fine milk.
fine milk?
@@achromaticghostmilk doesn't age well, like this video
@@johannliebert2870im just saying it looks like op mixed "aged like fine wine" and "aged like milk" together
@@achromaticghost Yeah, I'm not sure why they used "fine" alongside milk either. Maybe as a joke.
very much so my good sir
google is so big, anything you do is good for them
you are alive and breathing, it's good for them
you are using google, it's good for them
you are not using google, it's good for them
you don't use ad blocker, it's good for them
you use ad blocker, it's good for them
😂 pretty much
You use Bing, it's bad!
as an ad business, everything’s an opportunity
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Big goog is everywhere.
If Google didn't cared they would not try to cripple them on manifest v3. You will need to give permission to adblock to be used on each site, and their filter can't be updated easily anymore
They don't remove it because the number of users are more important right now. The day they remove it is the day they will lose XX% of users.
Thank fuck for firefox!
@@sillyUnawarewolf But firefox performs like shit when you have like 256 GB of RAM and like 7800 tabs opened
And that's why I switched to Firefox
Also, AdBlock has gone to shit. It stopped blocking TH-cam ads, and it leaves some banners and videos on different sites. So I switched to uBlock
@@diablo.the.cheater when you got that many tabs open, how do you track what's in those tabs? I'm not saying it's wrong to have a ton of tabs open but any more then 10 tabs and I'm starting to loose track of what all I got open. so I'm legit curios on how you manage to track what's going on with so many tabs open?
Only tech savvy individuals thinks of using ad block. With that, Implementing a built in AdBlock would be a shot in the foot since you are introducing it to your avg joe and they watch ads the most
I'm tech savvy ...
I like ads, because it introduces me to many other creators, apps.
It also gives me a new experience like TV.
@@xr.spedtech You're very unique then, I've been using TH-cam premium for months and I don't miss ANY of these pesky ads
@celestialcrab2736 i pay for premium at the gas station, it's probably stupid but I like it
@CelestialCrab Yep lol, we're 40 millions if I remember correctly😅
@@xr.spedtech I get that, but once you start getting 5 ads on a 5 minutes video, things gets complicated.
This is a win-win-win. Users are not annoyed, advertisers get more realistic results, and Google gets its revenue. Also, it's true that people will really find a way if they don't want ads. Shutting down AdBlock will just make the urge to avoid ads stronger.
+1
its like an " ecosystem" lol
About a year later, Google appears to have abandoned the positive ideas discussed in this video and engage in all-out war with adblockers.
On a recent visit to a friend's home, he was showing my something on his PC. I was horrified by crap, adverts and all sorts of rubbish flying about his browser. Having used an Ad Blocker for many years I had no idea the rubbish people have to put up with without Ad Blocker. Needless to say, he now had ad blocker. Every time we talk, he thanks me!
@Closet Faggotry Of course it happens! I've noticed it too, an awful experience on other people's computers. One time I shared the dictionary site I used, and she told me it was too awful with ads; I introduced her to the ad blocker and she started using that site.
"every time we talk he thanks me" sounds very hyperbolic, simply because the average Joe would have other things in life to talk about than a Web browser.
I believe in this story actually. The poor dude probably is so grateful because he had to deal with it for 10 years.
This is a true story, I installed ad block in the PCs my parents use and they notice the difference.
I install adblock on every browser I use, with permission from the PC owner but Nobody has ever thanked me. Maybe once. I still think the worse type of ads are the ones creators incorporate in their content, and we can't escape them.
Well this aged like milk
Time to stop using ad block.... NOT!
😂
Use Ublock origin instead. Adblock was out of date years ago.
Use adna usem
@@donotlike4anonymus594 amogus
Ublock origin is superior to Adblock
if the adblock was not there, the open-source community will make the ultimate adblocker that will completely shut down google's breath, this is the modern technique of the Art of war.
And the open source community can drop the hammer on google and no one would care. Google goes too hard against OS and that will be bad PR. Just like suing for thousands a song. Did they have the right? Yep but bad PR changed that.
There is already an open source "ultimate ad blocker" uBlock Origin will block anything, if you use a custom DNS and block trackers and ads you'll probably never see an ad again
It's there already, what do you mean?
So why doesn't the open-source community make the ultimate adblocker? Surely a free version is better than the current one you pay for.
@@greywolf7577 there already is a better opensource adblock named ublock origin
1:55 Piracy isn't an economical damage in industry. It's free advertisement from people who would have never bought the product to begin with, spreading good feedback to people who now will buy the product.
Depends. For big business this is true. For small to medium business it's false.
The primary reason I'd never leave Android is because of the ease of Ad-blocking. A browser like Kiwi almost functions like a desktop browser when extension are needed.
You don’t need an android for Adblock.
I’m on my IPhone right now watching this video on Brave browser, which has a built in Adblock. There are options on both OS’s now, android doesn’t own this niche anymore.
same with firefox love firefox mobile. never ever using chrome mobile in my life ever again
iOS have adblocking too. Plus you can use other browsers.
@@FawadBilgrami iOS forces all browsers to just be basically reskins of safari because apple requires them to use webkit as a backend
@@sa1t938 Exactly!
this aged like milk
My father (90) was confused by the ads, did not recognize the difference between the ad and the actual content he was looking for (for example searching information about solar panels and ending up changing electricity provider), ad are discriminatory and confusing for aged persons. So I added the extension and his surfing became much more comprehensible.
Mainstream adblockers can be sellouts. Only open source alternatives are really worth using, to be honest. A very eye opening video, as always.
Ublock Origin is the best open source adblock in my opinion.
Ublock
ABP used to be my go-to for years until they sold out and started letting ads through. Now I exclusively use uBlock Origin.
mainstream anything are usually some form of sellouts.
can agree.
I use ublock origin on my laptop
If you're not willing to see the ad in the first place, the ad is wasted on you and Google doesn't earn money from the click.
Filtering yourself out means that ad is more likely to land in front of someone who will click
Also, if you use premium having adblock on doesn't affect anything
You don’t lose time from having to sit through an ad though.
@@minbcraft I disagree- A situation I have heard a lot about is during medical emergencies, where the time it takes for a combined 30 seconds of unskippable ads on a first-aid tutorial could literally mean the difference between life or death.
@@minbcraft 30 seconds every video can easily pile up.
Your videos are so watchable - perfect length, good audio, clean graphics, and the topics are distinct from everyone else in the space. I appreciate your team’s efforts!
Voice like a robot, tho. Or is it just me? 😏
he did not cover manifest v3 from google which blocks adblock add-ons in chrome , so video is not good and telling everything unfortunately,
I actually used to not have adblock on mobile because I couldn't be bothered to set it up.
But the intrusive, 10 times louder than the video unskippable youtube ads changed my mind.
Making the ads less annoying is the way to go.
Don't get me started on unskippable ads. I loathe them and half the time, I have my finger on the skip button only to find out it's 2 unskippable ads! 😭
i dont know why they insist on putting the ads over the videos. nobody likes getting interrupted
@@shivadarling18 it was fine when it was one skippable ads and a banner, back when youtube was a nice place, good old days
for device wide adblocking I recommend adguard (not the playstore version)
and for youtube I recommend revanced
Never gonna stop using vanced, brave, and adblock.
I am watching this on vanced
*revanced.
@@31173 There's not much of anything in Moldova, except corruption, poverty, and the desire to return to the days of the USSR lol
@@pixel-jy3be bro look it up and don't use the word r----ced on here, we don't want that to be dmca'd too
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 shhhh....
did not age well, seeing as how youtube is owned by google
The people using AdBlock are the people who aren't going to be influenced by this form of advertising in the first place.
@CelestialCrab Well yes, that's because you aren't running adblock.
@CelestialCrab Sounds like you need to help someone install an ad blocker!
@CelestialCrab Universities have been taken over by the bean counters. Higher education in the US has been a joke for two decades now.
@CelestialCrab speak no more, I am an IT student and half my professors are computer illiterate
exactly. I've never clicked an ad. If I see something that I do think is interesting, Ill open a new tab and look for it myself. And if the ad is very intrusive I reward that by never buying their product even if I know I would like it.
Well, this isn't aging well
I made a beeline for this video once I learned of the news. This'll probably be an arms race between adblock developers and Google. Unless they change the video protocol, I don't think they'll be able to stop it.
The kind of user that will install an adblocker is also the kind that is willing to ditch a product if it doesn't allow adblockers, I suppose.
You forgot to mention the fact that Chrome for mobile is the only (afaik) that does not allow extensions, like adblockers
You can still use stuff like Adguard, which works like local VPN on your device and filter traffic from all apps
It used to. They disabled it just for the ad revenue reasons. I remember using ublock as ad blocker on Android chrome and one day boom. No longer compatible.
@@Sohailali1 Its the reason I'm using Firefox on mobile.
I like Chrome, but I want a very similar experience from what I have on my PC, and I'm not going to suffer trough the miserable experience of surfing the web on mobile without an adblocker.
A good reason to use Firefox mobile.
for that I use device wide adblockers, like adguard
Wow this aged poorly
Did "anyone" really believe this crap when they pushed it out?
TH-cam: Are you sure about that?
Sometimes I hear youtubers ask if I can turn off adblock on their videos or streams or whatever, and I never do.
I never go anywhere without adblock.
true, they make thousand of $ each day, i think they're safe if some of us are using adblock
Louis Rossman says his pay through ad clicks is almost nothing. He said if you sent him $1 once, that would be more money than watching all of his videos with ads. He advises using ad blocker to watch videos and sent creators a buck or two instead that way google doesn't even get a cut.
This is of course directed at people willing to send a little coin to their favorite content creators. not the ones who want everything for free.
Also Google: “Ad blockers are not allowed on TH-cam”
I believe in being fair: If a website provides me with valuable content and only shows a few discreet ads at the side of the page, I disable ABP for that site. If everyone blocks all ads, we'll lose most of our favourite sites. Simple.
My only complain to google is the double ads at the start of a video in TH-cam, that's the reason I started using ad blocks. I felt like it has gone is too far
Well I saw this video 1 month ago, things have changed TH-cam is planning to stop adblockers
Google is planning on removing manifest v2 in favor of v3. Manifest v3 will severely limit all adblockers since v3 doesn't allow for extensions to check urls which is something that all adblockers use to block ads.
my only "issue" with this is that everyone is calling it a "loss" as if they first had $35 billion and we somehow took that from them. That's not a loss, it's unachieved potential gains. They don't "lose" money, they just don't make as much as their forecasting models predicted. it's all just words to make you feel empathy and emotional that a company like Google "lost $35 billion bc people used adblock 🥺😢" its not even the videos fault, it just grinds me gears when companies and articles use the whole "Company X lost $Y amount of money"
They exploit framing bias to manipulate people.
It's called cost of opportunity
welp, this aged well
Probably the biggest reason I started using ad blocking was that it got rid of the annoying ads on TH-cam that one cannot skip like one can with a TV ad (after pausing for a while) or ad in the video itself. Those are the very worst ads for me. I would have minded ads a lot less if they did not exist.
Currently I _finally_ have enough money that I can afford TH-cam Premium without going broke, so that creators on TH-cam can be paid despite my multiple layers of ad blockers. I wish a similar system existed that could be spread across all the other sites I visit. I cannot afford a subscription for every small site I visit for a bit, and am not willing to be harassed and brainwashed by ads, but would be happy to pay a decent sized blanket payment for everything as long as I can afford it.
I remember a TH-camr explaining to money they make from ads etc and also TH-cam Premium. I think it was something like you needing to watch the channel for 20 years for them to get as much as if you donated 1$. So better just donate to the channels you like and continue blocking ads and ignoring Premium.
Unfortunately, this aged like milk.
Hindsight is a b***
This video uses the term "adblock" to mean the actual extension with that name, and ad blockers in general. Google pays Adblock to whitelist their ads, but that is also the reason Adblock is not the recommended ad blocked to use, Ublock Origin is. It makes it sound like Google is happy you are blocking ads, and then gives arguments that only apply to Adblock, not ad blocking (with ad blockers that actually work), along with arguments that actually apply to all ad blockers, but that's not interchageable.
I'm using AdBlock and I don't recall ever seeing ads on YT... Must be because I've disabled the "show nonintrusive ads"
I disagree that Google's main objective is attention. They only want to not lose attention because diverting attention to competitors can indirectly drop their own ad revenues... so their goal is still the ad revenues. They also have a side-goal of supporting government propaganda and corporatist government with censorship.
I've been very confused as to why Google would allow something that blocks their own ads in their own app store for a long time. This makes sense now! Good explanation!
The censorship is getting insane now. Lots are now changing to less censored search engines.
I've never understood the ad model.
For me the best way to convince me to not buy a product is to show me how much money they're willing to waste convincing me to buy a product instead of applying that money to product development.
I understand that they need to inform people that they have a product to sell, but I only need to see the ad for it once, not 10 times an hour every hour. Also if I'm convinced that I want something I saw in an ad I'll preferentially get the cheaper genaric version of it because I don't support wasting money on ad's
Tai Lopez was the biggest promotor of Ad Blocker for me. lmao
The og of all Internet gurus😂
Use adnau sem people
Haven't used adblock in years, since they started the whole "less intrusive ads" allowance. Instead, I just download a custom hosts file that's updated occasionally for my desktop and block the most intrusive ones at my router, so I don't have to see them on any of my devices. Also, AdGuard on my mobile devices, when I'm not home.
7 months later
Google: actually, we are not happy at all! 🤣
This aged well...
I've been an avid Adblock user for years. It's one of the greatest possible improvements to the browsing experience.
Ublock origin is the GOAT
uBlock with custom and curated filters is the way of jedi
It's ironic how I actually found my go to browser that has built in adblock, from an ad. Yup, I found brave through an ad, and even though the ad was fully animated, it did convince me to switch.
Well looks like Logic failed this time round
60% of youtube traffic comes from mobile devices ( unable to use adblock ). The only people who know about adblock are more 'tech savvy' because you have to find your way around extensions and settings etc. Chances are laptop users are majority of desktop devices ( I think anyway ) as it could be work laptop or so on. The only people who care about adblock are the PC users and that takes a minority now within the grand audience, so changing things related to adblock isn't going to make more money compared to algorithms + watch time. It's priority is far down the list.
I mean, there are ways to get youtube app with adblock on mobile. It's just that you have to be slightly more tech savvy than for an ad block extension
Apps like revanced manager exists for youtube on phone
@Sheepish Lord I think he really meant desktop computer as apposed to something mobile.
@@utc_3 Can't live without Revanced, When I tried using regular TH-cam I was horrified by the number of ads there was. It was actually ruining the TH-cam experience
>( unable to use adblock )
My Android tablet and phone have no problem with blocking ads on TH-cam.
This aged poorly 🤣
aged like milk
Whos here now that TH-cam's been testing to block Adblockers?
You are right. I hate ads. I would 100% not use chrome if it didn't block ads. It would also make me not want whatever product if they had ads. Automatic turn off.
Seems everyone is on the same page that this video has in fact… Aged… like milk.
Google dropped Manifest V2 API from Google Chrome so actually is even harder to write working adblock
What’s that I don’t wanna Google pls
@@charlech It's an interface that ad blockers need to work properly. In a few months Google will start removing it from Chrome (this will also affect MS Edge and every other browser based on Chrome). After that ALL Chrome ad blockers will either not work or be less effective. Time to move to Firefox or Safari if ad blocking is important to you.
@@sl9sl9 It won't affect edge(probably). Edge is based on chromium so even if Manifest V3 is introduced they can make tweaks to the code to allow the manifest V2 extensions to work or they can just not implement V3.
Ppl just switch to another chromium based browser or FIrefox or any of its derivatives I don't see why you guys are hell bent on using chrome.
@@sl9sl9 Seems like it’s already removed from Edge. TH-cam ads now appear even with uBlock Origin.
This didn't age well
Such a relevant video. Enjoying youtube without ads.
Honestly, considering their overwhelming market share in internet browsing, eliminating the little competition they had in online advertisement is VERY Smart.
Simply put, the risk of malware by ads is still there. So ad blockers still have purpose.
That's definitely an important purpose to be sure (and its why I refuse to turn off adblock even for websites I'd really like to support - can't trust the advertisers).
But its hardly the only - or even main - purpose. The main purpose is to deal with those pages that fill 80% of the screen real estate with ads to the point where you have trouble even finding the tiny frame where the actual content resides.
And then when you do find an ad that interests you, you click on it and you're directed to another page full of ads trying to upsell you 17 other products and once you sift through that mess you discover they pulled a fast food burger trick on you - the ad looks fantastic but when you get to the actual purchase page it becomes obvious that they're just selling crap. (Goes back to not being able to trust the advertisers again. For a less nefarious reason this time, but no less annoying.)
I mean you've never really been able to trust advertisers whether its in magazines and newspapers or on billboards or on TV or now on the internet. But the relatively low cost of internet advertising combined with ad platforms' sometimes-lax verification practices when onboarding advertising partners and well.. adblock or similar is all but necessary for anyone who spends more than a few minutes a day online.
I wonder if this video should be revisited in light of the fact that chrome has started giving me ad block not allowed error messages..
well this aged well didn't it?
As of today, TH-cam just gave me a message that I violated terms and conditions. And no videos would payback unless I disabled the AdBlocker
Very unlikely, Google is actively trying to get around adblocking without getting negative publicity.
This aged poorly
Adverts drive me mad. If I did not have Ad Block it would change how and what I view. Even on TV, I record everything and skip past every add, station promo and other rubbish I simply do not wish to see. I stopped subscribing to Sky TV because they charge you a subscription and STILL show adds. The ultimate insult.
I don't mind ads as long as page ads don't animate and video ads don't cut in mid of one breath ... but they can't resist it
*Objective 1:* "Create a Problem."
*Objective 2:* "Sell the solution."
why are advertisers wanting to show ads to people that don't ever click on ads?
Exactly what I wonder. My broke self is not going to buy anything even if you show me an ad of it a million times. You need to give me money first.
I use ad block on my computer. I also have an app that automatically skips ads when the 3 seconds is up on mobile TH-cam. In the past I used a 3rd party version of the TH-cam app that blocked ads, let me listen to music with the screen off and much more. I also rooted one of my old phones and installed a phone level ad block that blocked almost everything, everywhere on the phone. I guess you can say I have a history of not wanting to see ads.
10:32 No, Google is blocking OTHER ad companies to increase its market share. Google Ads doesn't allow those types of ads.
I'm glad they allow adblockers to some extent. Those Forex or Day trader commercials were extremely annoying.
That title is one big fat LMAOOOO
I have been using adblockers for years. I absolutely hate ads. When DVR was new, it was an amazing feeling to be able to fast forward through the commercials to continue watching my favorite shows. I rarely if ever watched them live from that day forward. I had even gone as far as to pirate some shows if I was forced to watch them without the ability to fast-forward (I'm looking at you, Comcast on-demand).
They're not happy one bit. That's why they're rolling out Manifest v3 which will basically kill 3rd party Adblockers for Chromium based web browsers.
Switch to firefox Problem solved
Not sure this information aged well
When they have killed all the competition they can do whatever they want
This aged like a wine
Wine is not an emulator
I almost never see ads anywhere on the web. I've been using ad lockers since ad lockers were a thing. It's also the reason I don't watch cable TV or listen commercial radio. I will not put up with ads constantly irritating me.
Even before the internet I used to rip the intrusive ads out of magazines. I also don't use Googles browser or search engine. Sadly there is no alternative to TH-cam, so I'm stuck with that, but still without ads on both desktop and mobile.
I use it but TH-cam is whitelisted. Partly because some ads are actually entertaining on their own. I also don't mind for things actually relevant to me. Unfortunately Google's algorithm seems to screw up that part constantly.
I can't remember the last time I got a relevant ad on TH-cam. I like movies, videogames, tv shows, and the occasional "as seen on tv" type product. That doesn't seem that out of the question, right? What do I get? Manscaping (don't shave), wireless earbuds (literally never found a pair of earbuds that fit both my misshapen ear canals), tiktok (I refuse to willingly download CCP spyware), metaverse (why on earth is that even a thing), food delivery apps (if I'm not cooking I want to actually go out to eat), air b&b and similar (I prefer hotels and motels), cell phone providers (while I enjoy Ryan Gosling and Mint Mobile, I'm happy with my coverage), mobile phone "games" (sarcasm quotes because they are hardly games), and all sorts of things that I don't want.
I honestly don't know how half of a movie or games budget can go to marketing because I literally don't see advertisements for the movies and games.
As if there ever was a pleasant ad experience! The only thing I ever remember about any ad I've seen, is looking for a way to skip them. I never bought anything from the few ads I had to suffer seeing. If a product advertises, it only means it's increasing the price I have to pay in order to inflict evil ads on people, so they do Not get my custom. 9f course I don't use chrome or any Google sponsored adblocker (what's the point).. There are ways to block everything
Well, people like you (and also me, and many people here) are very, VERY minority. We are at most 20% in the big picture. We are like how enlightened/intellectual people look like for an average state. On top of that, we actually have way less power than those intellectuals since most of us are tech-savvy people, so we actually don't have the social-skill requirements to make an average joe understand what is the problem with this whole situation; whereas normal intellectuals are a bit better in this regard. This diminishes our "effective presence" (a term I made up at this moment) even further, which decreases our value to be noticed. The only thing that can hurt a giant like Google is to make everyone around us switch to _true_ adblockers, and there are probably millions of internet users who don't even have a familiar OS adblocker user who is also willing to spread this adblocked-internet-experience. Hence, we are merely ants in eyes of Google, we are not taken seriously in any way.
03:08 google pays apple to keep using google search engine on safari, same goes with for samsung and it mobile search app. and google now introduced the manifest V3 which will make it impossible to adblockcs to stop "some" ads, Mozila promised to keep support for it. Nice vid though
They are taking steps though. Quite severe steps. The new upcoming chrome version will severely break adblockers under the guise of "increased privacy". The update haven't rolled out yet, but when it does and its indeed as bad as some people claim; I might have to switch to firefox.
Google is the giant, they are playing 4-D chess.
Yes they are
this channel is underrated
You misquoted an article. The article said "AdBlock can't block ads in the TH-cam app" and you quoted it as "no ad blocker can block ads on the TH-cam app". That's wrong. You absolutely can block ads on the TH-cam app
cough vanced cough
@@hankhillsnrrwurethra cough vanced is dead cough... Revanced for the win 💪
literally just added adblock as im finding way too many annoying ads on my google results (not on the actual search but the link after the search) now I'm super confused lol
Gotta love that feedback noise in the background
Google should put in quiet ads that are just subtle non invasive links that pop up on the screen just like before pre roll ads have existed.
that aged well.
If this is true, then Google is most likely very angry with TH-cam recent stance against AdBlock
TH-cam is a child of Google
This is such an underrated channel
This aged like milk now YT wil ban them.
Hey man I think there’s a really high frequency background noise coming from your mic, I don’t hear it during cutscenes but do when you’re talking, it’s not something I’ve noticed from other TH-camrs but it’s there on a few of your videos I’ve watched- it’s kind of headache inducing
this aged baaaad
very baaaad!
I use adblock everywhere. I even Uninstaller the youtube app and use youtube through Firefox browser so I felt called out when you mentioned it 😂
The one thing that google needs to realise is that it has to make ads that don't ruin the experience of a service ,they should blend into the UX and feel as if were an integral part of it(i am here mostly talking about google ads on websites).
The best example of such a thing are reddit ads.
Also there are open source youtube clients or modified youtube apps.Also chrome on android doesn't support extension and most people don't mind changing therir browser as long as they can do their thing.