I’m an Anglican and I’ve been praying the daily office with a common prayer book for many years now, even back when I was a United Methodist pastor. I did not know the Lutherans had a tradition of daily Office, but I am not surprised. And I am also delighted to see how much we are in fact already praying together because of the overlap in traditions.
As an Anglican this looks really cool! I was looking into Lutheranism due to your channel and was surprised I couldn’t find a good Lutheran daily office.
As an Anglican whose husband is a priest, we pray the Daily Office (2019 Book of Common Prayer ) and encourage our parish to step into this rule of life. There are also shorter prayer times called “family prayer” as the regular morning and evening prayers are about 30 minutes long (midday prayer and Compline are about 15 minutes long.) whereas the family Prayer is about 5 to 8 minutes long for each of the four offices. Glad to see our Lutheran brothers and sisters embarking on this wonderful journey. Keep up the good work!
As soon as I watched this video I knew the comments would be filled with Anglicans excited to hear about this volume. I was Anglican for many years before I converted to the LCMS some seven years ago. In that time I missed the rhythm of morning and evening prayer as found in the 1928 American BCP. So much in fact I still pray the daily office according to the BCP. I am sooo glad this volume is available as I ordered as soon as I saw this video. Hopefully I can finally retire my ragged copy of the BCP.
I love this! I've been frustrated as a Lutheran that we haven't had a prayer book comparable to other traditions. I currently use the BCP 1976 ed. Looking forward to getting this!
What a great resource! Looking forward to picking up a copy the next time I get payed. A problem that I have during my personal devotional time is that it is not too structured and often too sporadic. This should help to have a daily structure to my devotional life.
As a budding Anglican, this is awesome. The 1928 BCP has been an incredible tool I've used to strengthen my faith and helps keep my heart and mind focused on Christ. I hope this prayer book is just as beneficial to Lutherans. Praise God.
I really like that Just and Sinner is putting this out... the daily office is a cornerstone for prayer and personal devotion in the western church.... now we have three to pick from! Oremus, Brotherhood of Prayer and now this!
So excited about this! I just ordered mine. I use the Treasury of Daily Prayer, this sounds like a great companion. RC's and EO's often criticize Protestants for not having a rich prayer tradition. Which they'd realize is nonsense, if they bothered to do the slightest research.
Probably the Anglicans have one of the best daily prayer and lectionary tools. The Book of Common Prayer. It has brought me into a deeper conversion. And the language is just beautiful. I would recommend the 2019 version in modern English or the 1928 for an older and very reverent version.
As a former LCMS Lutheran and now an Anglican it is great you guys are doing this. One of the reasons I left was because of the lack of prayer and spirituality in the LCMS. Everything is about knowledge in the head with a lack of transformed hearts. Keep up the good work.
@@DrJordanBCooper Agreed, there is a rich history of prayer and spirituality in Lutheranism. I have many prayer/spirituality books by Arndt, Gerhard etc…but I always felt like the odd man out in my Parrish when talking about these things. Fighting “wokism” and doubling down on our head knowledge of doctrines seems to be more important. Also, the LCMS is largely an older “boomer” church (avg age is 60) where American religious ways of thinking and the former love affair with evangelicalism has yet to be dealt with. If we are trying to fight every battle I think we can lose sight of our own need for prayer and transformation. I’m still Lutheran in many ways theologically but I had to very reluctantly go elsewhere for my (and my family’s) spiritual health. I initially fell in love with Luthers works and historic Lutheranism but gradually the LCMS way of doing things was no longer tenable for us. I left the LCMS on good terms but I honestly believe that if the LCMS does not get back to its spiritual heritage it will be dead in 50 years or less. God Bless, Keep up the good work!
@@DrJordanBCooper Lauds and Vesper was sung in latin in Stockholm by lutherans well into the 17th century. It later evolved into something called morning sining and evening sining. More traditional forms of Daily Office was reinstated in the beginning of the 20th century when the older traditions were rediscovered.
but rev dr cooper big eva told us all that liturgy and daily lectionaries are passé! cant we just "love jesus'. whats with these fixed prayers??? hows the spirit supposed to work ;P
Lutherans do have a tradition of Matins and Vespers as public prayer/preaching offices. What's unique to Anglicanism and to other traditions is taking their BCP and placing it in the home for private devotion. My understanding is that it was a 20th century development for Lutherans to take their hymnals home and do morning and evening prayer privately -- as an imitation of Anglican practice.
Historically, Morning and Evening Prayer were chiefly public offices in the Anglican Church as well. Their privatization at home is a fairly recent innovation in the last 100 years or so. The Book of Common Prayer was not really intended for lay usage, but a clerical book. (I speak as a former Anglican.) Regardless, I’m glad each tradition is recovering its catholicity in praying the Divine Office.
Did you look at Concordia's 1986 pastor's prayer book titled Daily Prayer? I have used it since it came out, and enjoy it. It is, however, tied to the three year lectionary.
I would like to buy a copy, but unfortunately Amazon does not sell it in Australia... : ( If you can advice on how can I obtain a copy, I will much appreciated. Thank you
At one point you showed readings. And you said those would not be included. You mentioned the Bible, but the screen showed catechetical instruction and fathers. So I can understand how this might work with the catechism. A user could simply read a section of the large catechism. But where would there be resources for the fathers to do it in any Scheduled or systemic way?
@@MatthewFenn1517 Thankyou, another question. On days when we commemorate saints do we use the invitory, hym, and collect for that saint or for the time of the church year we are in?
There seems to be an air of repristination in all these projects, and repristination is not a good thing. In addition, lest we suffer from sectarianism and continue to balkanize as a Synod and church I ask: Who sent you, that you ran? (Jeremiah 23:21)
I mean, he's not wrong that there's a danger in archaism. We tend to fetishize old things for old thing's sake and this can border on larp as we attempt to live in a time not our own. For the record, I don't think this is necessarily what this book is doing, but a lot of projects like it do, and we fail to recognize the problem
@@vngelicath1580 It also should be noted that those involved in this project, Dr. Cooper, Myself, and the two seminary students, none of us are LCMS. We are all AALC, and the AALC has no official hymnal, etc. And this project was done with the blessing of the AALC's Presiding Pastor.
I’m an Anglican and I’ve been praying the daily office with a common prayer book for many years now, even back when I was a United Methodist pastor. I did not know the Lutherans had a tradition of daily Office, but I am not surprised. And I am also delighted to see how much we are in fact already praying together because of the overlap in traditions.
Its amazing that people know nothing about Lutherans except the falsehoods
As an Anglican this looks really cool! I was looking into Lutheranism due to your channel and was surprised I couldn’t find a good Lutheran daily office.
my roommate and I are going to start doing daily prayers in our room next semester. This will definitely be employed in that.
As an Anglican whose husband is a priest, we pray the Daily Office (2019 Book of Common Prayer ) and encourage our parish to step into this rule of life. There are also shorter prayer times called “family prayer” as the regular morning and evening prayers are about 30 minutes long (midday prayer and Compline are about 15 minutes long.) whereas the family Prayer is about 5 to 8 minutes long for each of the four offices. Glad to see our Lutheran brothers and sisters embarking on this wonderful journey.
Keep up the good work!
As soon as I watched this video I knew the comments would be filled with Anglicans excited to hear about this volume. I was Anglican for many years before I converted to the LCMS some seven years ago. In that time I missed the rhythm of morning and evening prayer as found in the 1928 American BCP. So much in fact I still pray the daily office according to the BCP. I am sooo glad this volume is available as I ordered as soon as I saw this video. Hopefully I can finally retire my ragged copy of the BCP.
former Episcopal priest here, now LCMS layman. I SO glad to know about this Prayer Book. I'll be ordering it very soon.
Have you considered becoming a Lutheran priest?
As a Lutheran (and former Anglican), I’m excited to have another rich resource for the daily office!
I see we have traveled the same path. Augsburg Anglicans!
I love this! I've been frustrated as a Lutheran that we haven't had a prayer book comparable to other traditions. I currently use the BCP 1976 ed. Looking forward to getting this!
Nice work gentlemen! And great to see you involved in such a wonderful project Alex!
-Luc
What a great resource! Looking forward to picking up a copy the next time I get payed. A problem that I have during my personal devotional time is that it is not too structured and often too sporadic. This should help to have a daily structure to my devotional life.
As a budding Anglican, this is awesome. The 1928 BCP has been an incredible tool I've used to strengthen my faith and helps keep my heart and mind focused on Christ.
I hope this prayer book is just as beneficial to Lutherans. Praise God.
LET'S GO! So glad to see the project being promoted and enjoyed!
I really like that Just and Sinner is putting this out... the daily office is a cornerstone for prayer and personal devotion in the western church.... now we have three to pick from! Oremus, Brotherhood of Prayer and now this!
Don’t forget the Book of Common Prayer - in its many iterations! 😊
What would be your main objection to numbering the Treasury of Daily Prayer/LSB (CPH) in your list of Lutheran Daily Office books -- just curious.
I’m reformed, but I’m enjoying your channel and content a lot. This all looks very interesting to me!
Fantastic! already bought my copy yesterday! Looking forward to using this!
When will the musical edition be available?
So excited about this! I just ordered mine. I use the Treasury of Daily Prayer, this sounds like a great companion.
RC's and EO's often criticize Protestants for not having a rich prayer tradition. Which they'd realize is nonsense, if they bothered to do the slightest research.
Probably the Anglicans have one of the best daily prayer and lectionary tools. The Book of Common Prayer. It has brought me into a deeper conversion. And the language is just beautiful. I would recommend the 2019 version in modern English or the 1928 for an older and very reverent version.
As a former LCMS Lutheran and now an Anglican it is great you guys are doing this. One of the reasons I left was because of the lack of prayer and spirituality in the LCMS. Everything is about knowledge in the head with a lack of transformed hearts. Keep up the good work.
That's not true of Lutheranism historically. I'm sorry you found that to be your experience. I think it's a but of an overreaction against pietism.
@@DrJordanBCooper Agreed, there is a rich history of prayer and spirituality in Lutheranism. I have many prayer/spirituality books by Arndt, Gerhard etc…but I always felt like the odd man out in my Parrish when talking about these things. Fighting “wokism” and doubling down on our head knowledge of doctrines seems to be more important. Also, the LCMS is largely an older “boomer” church (avg age is 60) where American religious ways of thinking and the former love affair with evangelicalism has yet to be dealt with. If we are trying to fight every battle I think we can lose sight of our own need for prayer and transformation. I’m still Lutheran in many ways theologically but I had to very reluctantly go elsewhere for my (and my family’s) spiritual health. I initially fell in love with Luthers works and historic Lutheranism but gradually the LCMS way of doing things was no longer tenable for us. I left the LCMS on good terms but I honestly believe that if the LCMS does not get back to its spiritual heritage it will be dead in 50 years or less. God Bless, Keep up the good work!
it sounds like you've (or your church has) confused the LCMS with calvinism
@@m1stertim I think you may be confused friend. Calvinism has nothing to do with this.
@@DrJordanBCooper Lauds and Vesper was sung in latin in Stockholm by lutherans well into the 17th century. It later evolved into something called morning sining and evening sining. More traditional forms of Daily Office was reinstated in the beginning of the 20th century when the older traditions were rediscovered.
I am excited to get this!!!
Just ordered the book now. Can't wait to get it and start😃😃
Just ordered my copy! This will be new for me but I'm pretty excited about it
but rev dr cooper big eva told us all that liturgy and daily lectionaries are passé! cant we just "love jesus'. whats with these fixed prayers??? hows the spirit supposed to work ;P
Lutherans do have a tradition of Matins and Vespers as public prayer/preaching offices. What's unique to Anglicanism and to other traditions is taking their BCP and placing it in the home for private devotion. My understanding is that it was a 20th century development for Lutherans to take their hymnals home and do morning and evening prayer privately -- as an imitation of Anglican practice.
Historically, Morning and Evening Prayer were chiefly public offices in the Anglican Church as well. Their privatization at home is a fairly recent innovation in the last 100 years or so. The Book of Common Prayer was not really intended for lay usage, but a clerical book. (I speak as a former Anglican.) Regardless, I’m glad each tradition is recovering its catholicity in praying the Divine Office.
Did you look at Concordia's 1986 pastor's prayer book titled Daily Prayer? I have used it since it came out, and enjoy it. It is, however, tied to the three year lectionary.
Dr Jordan Wow Nice Bless❤❤❤
Is Just and Sinner moving in the direction of publishing their own Service Book/Hymnal? I heard mention that the AALC was working on something.
This looks good - when is the version with music included likely to be published?
Is there an app of Lutheran resources/available sermons I can download?
I would like to buy a copy, but unfortunately Amazon does not sell it in Australia... : ( If you can advice on how can I obtain a copy, I will much appreciated. Thank you
Is there news on when the musical version is coming?
Not yet. Its being worked on.
At one point you showed readings. And you said those would not be included. You mentioned the Bible, but the screen showed catechetical instruction and fathers. So I can understand how this might work with the catechism. A user could simply read a section of the large catechism. But where would there be resources for the fathers to do it in any Scheduled or systemic way?
What’s the name of the Jacobs book?
What do you do for bookmarks?
I use sticky tabs.
@@MatthewFenn1517
Thankyou, another question. On days when we commemorate saints do we use the invitory, hym, and collect for that saint or for the time of the church year we are in?
So glad it uses NKJB vs ESV. Not a fan of the ESV and disappointed that the LCMS has adopted it wholesale.
There seems to be an air of repristination in all these projects, and repristination is not a good thing. In addition, lest we suffer from sectarianism and continue to balkanize as a Synod and church I ask: Who sent you, that you ran? (Jeremiah 23:21)
For the record, this is a silly comment.
@@lazaruscomeforth7646
And the commenter got the attention they were looking for. 🤪
I mean, he's not wrong that there's a danger in archaism. We tend to fetishize old things for old thing's sake and this can border on larp as we attempt to live in a time not our own.
For the record, I don't think this is necessarily what this book is doing, but a lot of projects like it do, and we fail to recognize the problem
@@vngelicath1580 It also should be noted that those involved in this project, Dr. Cooper, Myself, and the two seminary students, none of us are LCMS. We are all AALC, and the AALC has no official hymnal, etc. And this project was done with the blessing of the AALC's Presiding Pastor.