‘Deeply troubling’: Call for Fatima Payman to separate religion from political party
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- Menzies Research Centre Senior Fellow Nick Cater says Independent Senator Fatima Payman is “free” to set up her political party.
Mr Cater warned Ms Payman must keep her proposed party separate from religion and faith.
“I think what worries me about Senator Payman's idea of what a party should be,” Mr Cater told Sky News host Rita Panahi.
“She is free to set up her own party, more the merrier I say, but if she’s going to build her party around Islamism, then that’s deeply troubling.
“Never before in Australia had a political party built around a religion or a faith, that’s a development which none of us want to see.”
Vote against her
In this country, we frown on and make laws about misogyny & homophobia, and yet, a person who sees them as religious obligations together with antisemitism, murder of apostates, separatism, etc gets to be in parliament? What's she even doing in this country?
✊️💯EXACTLY!✊️ She even looks Evil!
If she wears the uniform in public, she's saying that she takes her religion seriously enough to put it ahead of everything we value: freedom, democracy, and human rights. As a gay man, this sends shivers down my spine, and I also find myself wondering why more women don't speak up against the religious obligation to be misogynistic.
She should be removed from parliament permanently
So should Pauline Hanson.
This is the beginning of the end for Australia. The UK allowed this and look where they are today ? Wake up before it’s too late !!
Yes true...this is why other Muslim countries won't take them., some thing people really need 2 know and question...
Why do they have to come all the way to Australia .....
Because no other Muslim country trust them because of what they do trouble they cause in the country that takes them in ....sod
You simply cannot ask a Muslim to separate religion from politics, it’s not possible. Islam is a whole system of religion, politics, legal system, economics and warfare. It’s a package, and that’s what most people do not understand. Islam is not just a religion.
it is a cult. if you remove word god Mohammad ruled them like lord
@@muruganr4517 ALL their beliefs seem to direct them towards hatred & violence towards the "other". Is there ANYTHING uniquely good in the religion?
Agreed. A complete way of life with absolute subservience to the faith
It's a cult isn't it?
@@martinjones7411 no faith teaches what to do to non followers , people with opposite view
VOTE AGAINST THIS GRUB!!
Give up her identity in today’s identity politics!?!? What use is she then? 😂😂😂
Was married to and divorced a Sunni Muslim Islamic faiths aren’t a religion they are an ideology and it doesn’t matter where you go in the Muslim world Islam and politics always intertwine it’s why Islamic states will always follow Sharia law.
What a joke Australian politics starting to look like this ???
Other countries have been warning Australia about Alba for a while now. Having a treasonist, globalist as a PM brings all sort of destruction to a democracy. Not just lawlessness of the government.
"Never before in Australia had a political party built around a religion or a faith..."
That's simply false. There was the Christian Democratic Party of Fred Nile, for one.
The problem is not whether a party is built around a religion, but which religion it is built around. The West is built around Christianity. Islam is opposed to Christianity, and therefore to the values of the West, including democracy and freedom and equality.
Well before Nile, there was a Catholic Worker’s Party that morphed into the Labor Party.
I agree Islam despises the West because they follow Christian-judea values
Hezbolla and Hamas are two parties that come to mind that are raised around religion. We have seen how they turned out. This must not be allowed to happen in Australia.
No body is laughing at Pauline Hanson wearing the burka now are they. No body is calling for Payman to take her burka off like they did to senator Hanson are they. Senator Hanson warned about this. Australia owes senator Hanson an apology.
She wont push her faith straight away....shell get young people on board first, by finding common ground with them through criticizing the government, and other relatable issues.
who voted for this stooge
Labor party voters, they would vote for a monkey if it was endorsed by Liebor. Now she thinks people will vote for her as an independent or in her own party.
There IS no separation between government and Islsm.
I thought she had dual citizenship so shouldn’t even be in parliament
Lock her up!!!! From Sydney
Get her out!
Thank Labor for this
Stop showing your ignorance, Islam is not a religion, its a way of life, so Muslim's will never been able to separate anything from it, wake up.
Religions are usually the basis for a way of life. The problem is not that Muslims put religion first, but that it's a bad religion.
Give the muslim state some where on an island n they can live n run it themselves
No Islam, know peace
Know Islam, no peace
Let them practice their religion in private..tell them.that
Sorry , but this woman is a rock spider of some sort.
In Europe they have Christian Democratic Parties.
The federal government since Howard opened the floodgates. They should have foreseen this outcome when high numbers and significantly different cultures were brought in. Social cohesion is severely tarnished in oz.
Relative from overseas forecasted this outcome more than 15 yrs ago. The senator has right to have her party. Our idea of Oz is very different from theirs.
Their idea of OZ is the same vision they have for Israel
Democracies of any type must be free from religon. As a matter of fact the leaders of democracies in general have to be diligent to keep all their "private" beliefs seperate from their job. To serve millions of people you can not allow your personal agenda to affect your service of the many people that are far different than yourself. It is a very troubling trend that people "suffering" in non democratic countries are drawn to other countries that don't operate in the way their oppressive country does. Then the first goal they take on is to go into politics and make the new country exactly the same as the one they escaped. Canada has Jagmeet and the US has Omar/Mayorkas. Its not surprising that weak-minded people would do this but that weak-minded voters allow it.
"Democracies of any type must be free from religon"
So they should be atheistic? How self-serving.
The West is based on Christianity. There is no such thing as a democracy free from religion.
"As a matter of fact the leaders of democracies in general have to be diligent to keep all their "private" beliefs seperate from their job."
So what do they base their job's views on? We have laws, such as those against rape, because the Christian view is that rape is wrong. Yes, even our laws are based on religious views.
The issue is _which_ religion is involved. The West, based on Christianity, has brought the most freedoms and been the most successful.
Bring them all in they said, they just want a better life
NOOOO Australia wake up!! This is not a good idea.. Islam and Politics is how they roll. Just ask Lebanon!!! Once the Paris of the Middle East now a mess!!!
They've only got one book in their library.
The issue here is - a culture that was at the leading edge of science and mathematics - 1,000 years ago. Retreated into itself. And any issue now is framed around "religion" - that religion - justifies and excuse - the justification of violence towards others.
The islamic culture - you can see as soon as it is challenged - the people - who say they are islamic. Reach for the religious red card. Which seems very much as odds with - how modern secular politics is played out - like labor and the Greens. That they are very much - polar opposites. No-one else is allowed to do this. If a Christian did this - the television media would have a melt down. And that's the lies and falsehoods - you get hit with every time. This is simply how do you lie about - who you really are - and hide from the truth. You throw down the religious red card.
The issue being here - she stood as an Australian citizen - for the Australian Federal Parliament. And yet her personal allegiances lie elsewhere. She should be disqualified from Australian politics.
If she wants to raise issues - of what goes on overseas - then she should go to Lebanon - and if she really believes who she says she is. And take her personal fight - to the place where it's all happening. Labor is to blame for this mess. Labor were the ones - who got involved in talking about the war in Israel. And have only done it - to distract Australians - from how badly their policies are all failing. The problem being - is other people - take this issue - way to seriously. And labor refuses to admit - they always fail - to put candidates that are good - sensible people. They always recruit radicals. And this is what you get. Another person in Australian politics - who thinks she is more important - then the Australian Government - more important then her voters. And you have to consider as a labor candidate - she got a lot of non muslim voters - that's how she got elected. This is what happens when labor ticks - their so called EQUITY boxes - and not recruit people into politics - who have a lifetime - of experience who can really contribute to Australian politics. Labors equity policy is anything but - ABOUT EQUALITY - OR FAIRNESS.
Because once the war in Israel is over - who does she blame then. That's what this is all about. Now she has to accept - her main voters - will be mulsims. As she has taken advantage of ordinary Australians who voted for her.
The issue here - is the clash of culture. In that this person will frame every issue around her religion. That is something that should worry a lot of people. You can't reason with that. They just reach for "THE GOD COMPLEX" and then that's all they will quote. Her job - is to see the Australian Government - wont defend Australians and wont defend Australia.
She is very much a person who should not be in Australian politics. Given she swears an oath of allegiance to Australia. She forgets she is born in Australia - she is Australian first - not her religion first.
Islam is a religion integrated into a political and social system that defines every facet of your life
Skibidi
conduct voting to decide first is..am is a religion or not. it is not a religion just using god name can not be religion
You can either be an Australian or a Muslim, you cannot be both