Thanks for making CSS Hunley one of your examples of early sub-warfare; it was lost with all hands after making the first successful attack on a surface ship. The sub and its crew were recovered and the men received a full Confederate States burial.
@@gl15colit is believed that they were rendered unconscious by the shock wave from their spar torpedo & never knew anything about the sinking (like being depth charged by themselves).
I've been watching time team for years and years. Possibly since the start of the show. I went to college to study archaeology and loved it. Somewhere along the line life got in the way and I never became an archaeologist. But instead got behind the camera. Working for woodcut media making history documentaries. Now I'm a videographer and editor. Would love to know how I could get involved if possible. Possibly working on episodes.
Mine is similar but kinda the opposite. Always interested in history but wanted to work on TV so studied for my BA. Time Team fired up my interest in archaeology and history even more. I met Sir Tony and one of the producers of Time Team back in 2003 when I graduated and hoped I could eventually work on Time Team at some point but in the mean time I worked on my own local history documentaries. I self taught some archaeology from textbooks and always thought of doing an evening class or something. Then Time Team was cancelled so now it's back in some way I'd love a chance to work on it somehow.
I remember getting into trouble in primary school, age 5 or 6 (Mum remembers it better than me). Because I didn't follow instructions during art. We were to paint flowers into a printed vase. I instead painted a load of brown, covered parts of the vase (missing parts) and added cracks. Apparently I came out of school balling my eyes out. Mum wanted to know what was wrong. The teacher (Who I still like 20 years on) thought "Time team" was some made up children's noncense (uncultuired) and I simply couldn't follow instructions to put in the flower, that had decomposed long ago xD So glad I found the YT channel. It was quite literally my childhood (along with How It's Made).
After visiting the Fremantle Maritime Museum and taking the colins class submarine tour , I learnt how amazing these machines were capable to function . Just amazing and an honour to board one . Thank you time team for showing the very first Subs . Great lesson
Twas a fortuitous discovery, indeed. This is a very good, long lived show. Much to my pleasure.. American history documentaries always tend towards aliens or goofy ass speculation and sensationalism
Really enjoyed this...Very interesting. My Great Uncle was killed on K17 at the Battle of May Island January 1918. The sub was accidentally rammed by HMS Fearless and was lost with all hands. RIP.
The sinking of three British Cruisers deserves a bit of detail. Action was on 22 September 1914. U-9 commanded by Kapitänleutnant Otto Weddigen sank HMS Aboukir, HMS Cressy, and HMS Hogue with the loss of 1,459 sailors. Site is about 40 Miles west of Den Helder in the Netherlands.
My Great Uncle went down with Aboukir, my father-in-law was torpedoed twice in WWII, my mother served in a Y Station intercepting U-boat Morse for decryption, via Enigma, at Bletchley Park. I was a submariner for 22 years - commanding a diesel boat and nuclear boat.
BOLLOCKS It is interesting stuff like this makes learning relevant & FUN!!!.. More teachers need to study how to interact with students IT was sorted way back 30+ years back! its called "Accelerated Learning!" Shows you HOW to use your brain & how to sort out REALITY
Did not know they did this and nice to see the team again! As a teenager in 1976 got a tour of the sub USS Greenling SSN 614 when on vacation in Barbados - great to learn more of the history here.
In the mid-1980's I worked on a project to ressurect several of the battery cells recovered from the Holland 1. After cannibalisation of the more damaged cells for replacement parts, repairs, cleaning and flushing, I managed to get a couple of them worked-up to around 25% of their original capacity of around 800 Ah, after 70 odd years underwater. I believe that thease were eventually returned to the museum.
what a time to be alive. never would have thought that a century later we would be able to learn more than ever before. Feels like the world is shrinking, but it's good knowing there's still plenty we did not know
Amazed they got on HMS Ambush. I’m not an expert. I just that it was all hush-hush. Also showing crew’s faces surprised me. I did grow up in Gosport home to to HMS Dolphin.
John Holland had contracted for 10 H subs to be built in Canada. The first 5 were delivered to Britain in 1915. These Canadian built subs were the first to cross the Atlantic.
Not much secret about BUTEC. Years ago I piloted Pisces manned submersibles operated by Vickers Oceanics out of Kyle of Lochalsh to recover aircraft and submarine launched torpedoes that failed to surface after test firing. We located them by homing in on their acoustic pingers and used a specialized torpedo claw to return them to the surface. The test range was a marvel in itself with the ability to track torpedoes during their runs. Some of the air drop failures were spectacular and few pieces were recoverable. There is at least one torpedo stuck in an underwater cliffside on the east side of Raasay which we tried for weeks to locate until the pinger battery finally died.
Another legacy from the Holland, The Whitehead torpedo, helped to sink the German Cruiser Blucher in 1940. It was launched by a shore-based torpedo launcher and shore-based old Krupp shore batteries
It's curious to think that Conan Doyle published his 42nd Surlock Holmes story the Bruce-Partington Plans, in December 1908! SIX years before WW1 started. Even then the Submarine was being described as a game changer. By the American Civil war it was clear this technology was important.
The wreck is too deep for Phil at 35m give or take. Makes you realise how dangerous the "depths" are when only a few metres make something "too deep". Until oxygen is required nobody says some hill is "too high" to ascend. I guess I explained that with "Until oxygen is required..." As a kid Jacque Cousteau made the underwater world look so easy and he was pioneering it!
The differen e between deep sea and high altitude I a bit more than needing oxygen. With high altitude you do need just oxygen, but deeper sea work requires very special gas mixtures.
@aaronleverton4221 tri-mix gas is used at only 100 metres, so it doesn't even have to be "deep sea". 35 was too deep for phil mostly because of experience and certification issues.
aaronleverton4221, Just to give you an idea of just one of the problems of being under water... I took an empty, 2 liter coke bottle, put the cap on at the surface and took it down to 45 feet. It was completely flat! It looked like it had been run over by a car. One back on the surface, it had expanded to its normal shape. Next, I took the bottle down to 45 feet. I filled it with air that I exhaled 8 ti the upsidedown bottle. I capped it and brought it back to the surface. The bottle was rock hard and I couldn't get the cap off. One of the other divers poked it with a bolt from a spear gun and it exploded. No one got hurt or even cut, but it startled everyone around. And that's only 45 feet (13.7 meters).
Interesting episode, especially as my great uncle was lost aboard the HMS Hawke which was torpedoed by the U9 on 15 Oct 1914 off the coast of Aberdeen.
The three cruisers mentioned has a record attached. The person sunk the most times in one engagement. He was a 16 year old sailor who was on the first ship that was sunk. He was pulled from the water by the second ship intime for that to be sunk. He was pulled out of the water again onto the thrid ship to be sunk. he was finally rescued but small boat
I take it the "User is not Station In Control" error message at 3:44 means they did that just for video and it was all being controlled from elsewhere.
Funny to see how certain things didn't change much throughout the centuries, with or without electronic equipment. 45:35 : "Always ensure the upper hatch is shut before dropping the lower hatch", or at 45:44 : "Masts not to be raised, lowered or trained at speeds above 7,5 kts."
I was leaving the Clyde in a yacht a couple of years ago. The light was fading as we headed to the east of Bute. Then out of the murk, appeared two fast ribs crewed by the Royal Navy. We were informed that a submarine, presumably nuclear powered and armed was approaching us from our stern. A couple of RIBS were clearing the way for it. So, the captain of the sub requested that we move over to starboard to allow their passage. So we moved to starboard. But then not long after, a RIB came alongside and told us that the captain had changed his mind and wanted us to move over to port. We laughed and did as requested. In the murk, we watched as Barrow's finest glided past us at about 20 knots! Bill
Please note that the first sub to serve with the Royal Navy was an American built Holland type. The Brits were impressed with it and began to design and build their own, even naming them as HS-1 HS-2 etc. The Holland had all the attributes of a modern sub but the British wanted a sub with longer range and able to operate in the North Atlantic. Holland's sub had diving planes which enabled faster dives, plus multiple ballast and trim tanks for stability. The Brits came up with some good ideas and one bad idea: the steam powered sub that was impractical and a nightmare to operate!
Nice shallow wreck I’d like to visit it sometime.. Could the torpedo hatch have been open but when the boat went nose down & hit the seabed it swung closed then rusted up in closed position.
Less than a minute in, and we're told the first working military submarine was built in Britain 100 years ago. CSS Hunley, anyone? I knew I shouldn't have bothered giving Time Team a second chance.
Considering the small size of the Holland sub and that it isn't a gravesite. You'd think it'd make a valuable target to recover and bring back to surface.
the british had the first class of operational sub, the Holland class numbered 1-6. they hold the record of having NO fatalities in training, or their limited combat patrols, the hunnley lost 3 crews. the turtle, the first one you showed survived but got lost in the currents in the 1777
If this was July 2013, HMS Ambush was only commissioned that March. So I suspect this was a media tour which Time Team took part on. Nice bit of access. A little different than Bear Grylles getting Benedict Cummerbatch on another Astute class off Syke in 2023. Cool video. :)
a german ww1 u boat UB98 which was scrapped at Porthmadoc harbour in 1922, some of the hull plates were used in Moelwyn tunnel on the Ffestiniog railway
I never saw this the first time around in 2013, so was delighted to see it this evening. 👍
Same here !
2013 you say? Thanks, I was wondering when this is from.
What a pleasure to see Sir Tony and of course Mr Harding.
So happy to see Tony and Phil back on the team. I've seen every episode ever made and it just wasn't the same without the 2 of them.
Baldrick you mean
I still miss Mick
Back? They hadn't left yet when this was first aired.
Tony and Phil, putting the band back together.
Mick Tribute act
now i understand what you mean.
But i think this all was recorded way before Mick passed, right?
@@humphrey4976
We need Mick and Victor! May they rest in peace!
Thanks for making CSS Hunley one of your examples of early sub-warfare; it was lost with all hands after making the first successful attack on a surface ship. The sub and its crew were recovered and the men received a full Confederate States burial.
What an awful way to go, they were still seated at their stations. I'm glad they finally got to rest with other members of the Hunley team.
@@gl15colshouldn’t have been traitors
@@jtorola True
Am sure Trump would have honored them
@@gl15colit is believed that they were rendered unconscious by the shock wave from their spar torpedo & never knew anything about the sinking (like being depth charged by themselves).
I have been to Munich and seen the U1. One of the best things I have ever seen! And the museum as a whole is fantastic!
I've been watching time team for years and years. Possibly since the start of the show. I went to college to study archaeology and loved it. Somewhere along the line life got in the way and I never became an archaeologist. But instead got behind the camera. Working for woodcut media making history documentaries. Now I'm a videographer and editor. Would love to know how I could get involved if possible. Possibly working on episodes.
Mine is similar but kinda the opposite. Always interested in history but wanted to work on TV so studied for my BA. Time Team fired up my interest in archaeology and history even more. I met Sir Tony and one of the producers of Time Team back in 2003 when I graduated and hoped I could eventually work on Time Team at some point but in the mean time I worked on my own local history documentaries. I self taught some archaeology from textbooks and always thought of doing an evening class or something. Then Time Team was cancelled so now it's back in some way I'd love a chance to work on it somehow.
I remember getting into trouble in primary school, age 5 or 6 (Mum remembers it better than me). Because I didn't follow instructions during art. We were to paint flowers into a printed vase. I instead painted a load of brown, covered parts of the vase (missing parts) and added cracks. Apparently I came out of school balling my eyes out. Mum wanted to know what was wrong.
The teacher (Who I still like 20 years on) thought "Time team" was some made up children's noncense (uncultuired) and I simply couldn't follow instructions to put in the flower, that had decomposed long ago xD
So glad I found the YT channel. It was quite literally my childhood (along with How It's Made).
After visiting the Fremantle Maritime Museum and taking the colins class submarine tour , I learnt how amazing these machines were capable to function . Just amazing and an honour to board one . Thank you time team for showing the very first Subs . Great lesson
Sure you weren't on HMAS Ovens. Oberon class.
@@troywallace322 yes it was mate . Sorry . Don't know what made me think it was a colins class. Still was amazing to walk through it .
Watched this last night. Just outstanding. Life is good again with new Time Team episodes hosted by Tony and and Phil.
How have I just learnt that Time Team has a TH-cam channel 😅!! Amazing
@jameshollins5659 I know, right! :)
They even have new digs.. can't beat Tony presenting though.
Share, subscribe, like, comment #timeteam #history #simplythebest #archeology
They have TWO! Time Team Official and Time Team Classic. The new digs are on Time Team Official.
Twas a fortuitous discovery, indeed. This is a very good, long lived show. Much to my pleasure.. American history documentaries always tend towards aliens or goofy ass speculation and sensationalism
Thanks for this. Amazing footage and story telling once again.
Thanks!
Fascinating video. So great to see Phil and Tony together again!
Drachinifel has recently done a video on the history of countering the U-boat menace. Well worth watching.
The Jonny Walker series is fantastic so far!
@@Charners many Drachinifel fans here i see, good
Yes it is :) good video
Would like to think if this episode was done now they'd get Drach on as an expert
@@tonk84 Now I'd pay to see that.
I really enjoyed this Time Team video. Great history explained by Sir Tony and Phil Harding.
How did I miss this one?
❤️🙏❤️
Really enjoyed this...Very interesting. My Great Uncle was killed on K17 at the Battle of May Island January 1918. The sub was accidentally rammed by HMS Fearless and was lost with all hands. RIP.
Love the classics.
We really like these classics.
The sinking of three British Cruisers deserves a bit of detail. Action was on 22 September 1914. U-9 commanded by Kapitänleutnant Otto Weddigen sank HMS Aboukir, HMS Cressy, and HMS Hogue with the loss of 1,459 sailors. Site is about 40 Miles west of Den Helder in the Netherlands.
My Great Uncle went down with Aboukir, my father-in-law was torpedoed twice in WWII, my mother served in a Y Station intercepting U-boat Morse for decryption, via Enigma, at Bletchley Park. I was a submariner for 22 years - commanding a diesel boat and nuclear boat.
@@ianwhitehouse5818rest in peace to your uncle that thank you both for your service from Carlisle Cumbria
This is truly amazing! More like this, please!!!
Amazing to watch, thank you Phil and Tony
This was an awesome episode. Should be part of school curriculum to understand the history, history of engineering and world war history of our world.
It is. There's just to much history to cover in the reduced time we give our students.
@@cyclingnerddelux698 Information like this should be included in school curricula. Important to teach history like this which is so well presented.
BOLLOCKS It is interesting stuff like this makes learning relevant & FUN!!!.. More teachers need to study how to interact with students IT was sorted way back 30+ years back! its called "Accelerated Learning!" Shows you HOW to use your brain & how to sort out REALITY
Instead the kids have Dance and Relationships (LGBT indoctrination) .
This just popped up on TH-cam, and it's great. I didn't know to even look for this! Excellent.
Some amazing history. What a great episode!
Submariners are an amazing breed, special people. I couldn't do it.
I and many of my mates did!
@@mikebennett3812 I've met a few, always impressed.
Served in Submarines 89-94 , Plank Owner USS SCRANTON SSN- 756. Fast attack boat, the best years of my youth. Thank You
Did not know they did this and nice to see the team again! As a teenager in 1976 got a tour of the sub USS Greenling SSN 614 when on vacation in Barbados - great to learn more of the history here.
Incredible content, so glad I saw this now…wish I hadn’t missed it the first time round!
Excellent! I really enjoyed this interesting episode, thanks Time Team. Keep up the great work.
fantastic stuff of our history from the war , rip to the loved and lost during this terrible time
Excellent video and history lesson. Thanks chaps.
Lovely documentary. Cheers lads.
Enjoyed the video very much. Thank you!
Brilliant episode. Thank-you.
Fascinating! I'm more sure than ever that I don't need to experience life in a submarine, but the science is really cool
Very interesting and learnt more about earlier submarines!!😎🇬🇧🇺🇦
Great to see Phil again!
Very educational, thank you. Keep them coming please 👍
loved this thank you so much
Great video
Thank you.
Thank you for showing an episode that I hadn't yet seen. There's a few of them, but not many.
I never saw this first time in 2013 so I'm glad I've found it thanks 😊
In the mid-1980's I worked on a project to ressurect several of the battery cells recovered from the Holland 1. After cannibalisation of the more damaged cells for replacement parts, repairs, cleaning and flushing, I managed to get a couple of them worked-up to around 25% of their original capacity of around 800 Ah, after 70 odd years underwater. I believe that thease were eventually returned to the museum.
Wow thanks for sharing that pal.
awesome episode not seen before.thank you time team.❤
what a time to be alive. never would have thought that a century later we would be able to learn more than ever before. Feels like the world is shrinking, but it's good knowing there's still plenty we did not know
Interesting. Many new details of that ancient conflict
Ready as always 😀
First time i see this episode, very interesting. Time Team is awesome.
Nicely done.
Amazed they got on HMS Ambush. I’m not an expert. I just that it was all hush-hush. Also showing crew’s faces surprised me. I did grow up in Gosport home to to HMS Dolphin.
OMG TONY AND PHIL!!! OH MY HEART IS SO HAPPY!
Great veiwing
Phil is such a lovely man. Hes always so direct. But I bet hes an awesome grandaddy
Glad you are on TH-cam , about time .
John Holland had contracted for 10 H subs to be built in Canada. The first 5 were delivered to Britain in 1915. These Canadian built subs were the first to cross the Atlantic.
Not much secret about BUTEC. Years ago I piloted Pisces manned submersibles operated by Vickers Oceanics out of Kyle of Lochalsh to recover aircraft and submarine launched torpedoes that failed to surface after test firing. We located them by homing in on their acoustic pingers and used a specialized torpedo claw to return them to the surface. The test range was a marvel in itself with the ability to track torpedoes during their runs. Some of the air drop failures were spectacular and few pieces were recoverable. There is at least one torpedo stuck in an underwater cliffside on the east side of Raasay which we tried for weeks to locate until the pinger battery finally died.
Unexpectedly finding a special about submarines? Cool. It's narrated by Baldrick? PRICELESS!!!!
Long time Time Team fan, loving your TH-cam channel. 👍
Still amusing to see Tony, a CND stalwart, on one of our nuclear boats.
Astute only had nuclear propulsion and is not nuclear armed.
@@humphrey4976 CND also opposed nuclear power stations (presumably that would also include mobile ones).
CND - Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament
Very good.
Fantastic
Classic Time Team.
hey time team and crew great vid
I know channels with millions of subs that don't have 100 members. Well done Time Team fans!
Nice on baldrick very intresting viewing ..thanx
I can't wait!
Another legacy from the Holland, The Whitehead torpedo, helped to sink the German Cruiser Blucher in 1940. It was launched by a shore-based torpedo launcher and shore-based old Krupp shore batteries
What's the other legacy ?
@@larryzigler6812 Submarines
@@michaeldenesyk3195 Leonardo invented the submarine but would not share the details due to its evil nature
It's curious to think that Conan Doyle published his 42nd Surlock Holmes story the Bruce-Partington Plans, in December 1908! SIX years before WW1 started. Even then the Submarine was being described as a game changer. By the American Civil war it was clear this technology was important.
The wreck is too deep for Phil at 35m give or take. Makes you realise how dangerous the "depths" are when only a few metres make something "too deep". Until oxygen is required nobody says some hill is "too high" to ascend. I guess I explained that with "Until oxygen is required..."
As a kid Jacque Cousteau made the underwater world look so easy and he was pioneering it!
The differen e between deep sea and high altitude I a bit more than needing oxygen. With high altitude you do need just oxygen, but deeper sea work requires very special gas mixtures.
@@areyouavinalaff Yeah, "deep sea"...
@aaronleverton4221 tri-mix gas is used at only 100 metres, so it doesn't even have to be "deep sea". 35 was too deep for phil mostly because of experience and certification issues.
aaronleverton4221,
Just to give you an idea of just one of the problems of being under water...
I took an empty, 2 liter coke bottle, put the cap on at the surface and took it down to 45 feet.
It was completely flat! It looked like it had been run over by a car.
One back on the surface, it had expanded to its normal shape.
Next, I took the bottle down to 45 feet. I filled it with air that I exhaled 8 ti the upsidedown bottle. I capped it and brought it back to the surface. The bottle was rock hard and I couldn't get the cap off. One of the other divers poked it with a bolt from a spear gun and it exploded. No one got hurt or even cut, but it startled everyone around.
And that's only 45 feet (13.7 meters).
@@tarnishedknight730 Yes, I was never taught in high school physics (or by any submarine movie) that the weight of the ocean can crush things.
Good one!
Interesting episode, especially as my great uncle was lost aboard the HMS Hawke which was torpedoed by the U9 on 15 Oct 1914 off the coast of Aberdeen.
Very proud to say that I worked on the periscope of the Astute Class 🇬🇧
Seeing the Greatful Dead sticker was quite fun!!!!
The three cruisers mentioned has a record attached. The person sunk the most times in one engagement. He was a 16 year old sailor who was on the first ship that was sunk. He was pulled from the water by the second ship intime for that to be sunk. He was pulled out of the water again onto the thrid ship to be sunk. he was finally rescued but small boat
I take it the "User is not Station In Control" error message at 3:44 means they did that just for video and it was all being controlled from elsewhere.
Funny to see how certain things didn't change much throughout the centuries, with or without electronic equipment. 45:35 : "Always ensure the upper hatch is shut before dropping the lower hatch", or at 45:44 : "Masts not to be raised, lowered or trained at speeds above 7,5 kts."
I thought it was Neil Young for a minute there 😂. Great episode . So interesting
What a nice coincidence, Max Miller over at Tasting History just had an episode about the food on German submarines.
3:04: didn't know about these tiles, are they for noise reduction ?
TY 🙏
so cool
I was leaving the Clyde in a yacht a couple of years ago. The light was fading as we headed to the east of Bute. Then out of the murk, appeared two fast ribs crewed by the Royal Navy. We were informed that a submarine, presumably nuclear powered and armed was approaching us from our stern. A couple of RIBS were clearing the way for it. So, the captain of the sub requested that we move over to starboard to allow their passage. So we moved to starboard. But then not long after, a RIB came alongside and told us that the captain had changed his mind and wanted us to move over to port. We laughed and did as requested. In the murk, we watched as Barrow's finest glided past us at about 20 knots! Bill
Bring back Time team for real pls. With as many of the old team as possible please.
Britain has the best submarine command course in the world. Even us Americans attend it as a finishing school. It’s called Perisher.
Gonna be good!
long time time team fan
Please note that the first sub to serve with the Royal Navy was an American built Holland type. The Brits were impressed with it and began to design and build their own, even naming them as HS-1 HS-2 etc. The Holland had all the attributes of a modern sub but the British wanted a sub with longer range and able to operate in the North Atlantic. Holland's sub had diving planes which enabled faster dives, plus multiple ballast and trim tanks for stability. The Brits came up with some good ideas and one bad idea: the steam powered sub that was impractical and a nightmare to operate!
Nice shallow wreck I’d like to visit it sometime..
Could the torpedo hatch have been open but when the boat went nose down & hit the seabed it swung closed then rusted up in closed position.
Less than a minute in, and we're told the first working military submarine was built in Britain 100 years ago. CSS Hunley, anyone? I knew I shouldn't have bothered giving Time Team a second chance.
They need to bring the show back.
Why ain't time team on tv no more I loved time team on Sundays
the RN Submarine Museum is situated in Gosport, Hants, just over the harbour from Portsmouth.
I know Phil wanted to make that dive, but he is far too precious to risk that way.
Perhaps you might look into Australian submarines AE1 & AE2, both lost in WW!.
Considering the small size of the Holland sub and that it isn't a gravesite. You'd think it'd make a valuable target to recover and bring back to surface.
Very educating docu. Now I will watch "Hunt for Red October" again. Submarines give me the creeps because I am claustrophic.
the british had the first class of operational sub, the Holland class numbered 1-6. they hold the record of having NO fatalities in training, or their limited combat patrols, the hunnley lost 3 crews. the turtle, the first one you showed survived but got lost in the currents in the 1777
If this was July 2013, HMS Ambush was only commissioned that March. So I suspect this was a media tour which Time Team took part on. Nice bit of access. A little different than Bear Grylles getting Benedict Cummerbatch on another Astute class off Syke in 2023. Cool video. :)
a german ww1 u boat UB98 which was scrapped at Porthmadoc harbour in 1922, some of the hull plates were used in Moelwyn tunnel on the Ffestiniog railway