The History Of Immersive Sims | Part One
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- The History Of Immersive Sims | Part One
Immersive Sims are a special breed of video game that tries to simulate life or a profession in unique and engaging ways. In this two-part essay, I will be exploring the history of this ever-evolving genre of games.
Games Used:
Alkalabeth
Arx Fatalis
Baldur's Gate
Deus Ex
Pool of Radiance
Space Rogue
Splinter Cell
System Shock
System Shock 2
Thief: The Dark Project
Thief 2: The Metal Age
Thief 3: Deadly Shadows
Ultima I - Ultima VI
Ultima Underworld
Underworld: Ascendant
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I've been working on a Thief/SS2 spiritual successor with David Szymanski (the designer of DUSK). If any of you folks are looking for something that quenches that immersive sim thirst, the game is called Gloomwood. Here's hoping it doesn't kill our studio lol
I'm looking forward to it.
Dont mess with my feelings, its either Thief or SS2.
@@Atrahasis7 It's honestly a bit of both. It's Victorian horror so environmentally similar to Thief, but there's firearms + ammo conservation similar to SS2.
I wish I was allowed to work on video games.... :(
@@TafferKing451And looks like dusk? Not feeling it. But hey good luck.
game in the 80's: bleep bloop
society: SUCH VIOLENCE!
I like violence
@@violenceisfun991 You would.
2020: "mom, get off of my rdr2 save"
@@violenceisfun991 username checks out
I hope you'll talk about the future of the immersive sims in the next video, because we need to give this genre some support when the industry doesn't.
Pathologic 2 *cough cough*.
That's why I cut this into parts. I needed to let part two bake more and get some intimate time with Pathologic 2 :)
Shut up shinji
@@StratEdgyProductions "No game has been able to immerse the senses visually and... orally ;)" that line made me laugh. I know he meant "Aurally" but firstly - that isn't a word, and secondly - i think he meant "Immerse the senses in vision and sound" lmao.
Otherwise great review, though that line could have deffo used a rewritte
The one genre I truly admire despite never having actually beaten a single game set in it.
Breezewontspeak i like the design i just suck at it
Not even prey?
Deus Ex, Bioshock, Dishonored are all beatable
Nit even thief?
Try thief
This is still the most ambitious game design, which never really took off, but should be a standard.
Let's be honest, normie normal guy was never gonna get too into something like Deus ex and I know that sounds elitist as fuck but it's ..kind of true
@@MILDMONSTER1234 wdym? It is not mainstream, but it did took off. Now we have Dishonored, prey, bioshock, dark messiah, tes and many more coming in the future
@@zhassulankuan1051 And Dishonered is pretty much dead now, Bioshock is pretty much over and Dark Messiah and Prey are cult classics at best. And Prey was the first good immersive sim in years
@@MILDMONSTER1234 True. A lot of Gamers these days are so conditioned to hand-holding open-worlds and corridor game design that as soon as a game opens up and challenges them to use their brains, observation skills and problem solving skills - they just shut down. One of the reasons why Deathloop is so watered down is exactly because of that.
@@zhassulankuan1051 The genre sure had a brief resurgence but quickly died down again.
Dishonored hasn't had a game for 5 yrs
Prey sold poorly
BioShock has been silenced for nearly a decade
Deathloop just released but it is so watered down and a lot more inferior than Arkane's previous games.
Thief, especially the the Metal Age, is such a masterful game that manages to look amazing despite polycount due to incredibly well placed shadows, has probably the best audio I have seen in any game despite how old it is... and made levels gigantic whilst still making them feel like real places.
One of my favorite games of all time.
I finished Thief Gold in October, probably the most atmospheric game I've ever played, great choice for the month of Halloween.
Constantine's Mansion creeped the f#%@ outta me, especially THAT section added for the Gold version, probably the most scared I've ever been playing a game because of how _surreal_ it was.
@@marcellosilva9286 Constantine's Mansion was such a (literal) twist. You start the game thinking it's a game about sneaking and stealing, then it surprises you by making you a tomb raider and you think "okay that's the game. stealth horror" but the mansion level really utterly creeped me out, it felt like a David Lynch movie or something, just by conjuring the feeling of wrongness. It's such a masterpiece.
You guys are only remembering the good parts and forgetting the 90% of it that was a heinous slog. Constantine's mansion WAS the atmospheric level. It WAS the cool sound design. Every other level was missing it. Some were so bad you couldn't even tell what the buildings were supposed to be. The first level was basically a box with a couple empty rooms.
Thief 2 was the actual masterpiece.
@@nobodyimportant4778 yeah, thief is a masterpiece that was amazing for its time, but only contextually.
it's not a timeless masterpiece like RTC, for example
God the original thief really takes me back. I had a friend growing up who’s Dad worked at Bethesda doing concept art, so he had a huge PC game collection. I just remember playing an early copy of Morrowind and the thief games nonstop, good times.
I'm 53 and sometimes it just amazes me how much of the human experience has come into existence during my lifetime. Things no human ever did before. Entire genres of experience, rather than just specific things. Like RPGs. I started playing D&D with some friends in around 1981 I think. It didn't even exist when I was born. Nobody had ever played a role playing game when I was born. That leaves me feeling amazed sometimes.
Also other minor things like man on the Moon, the internet and oven chips.
Yeah, it's amazing how things have moved along in what seems like such a short amount of time.
I remember leafing thru the compendiums and handbooks with awe... nowadays if a game requires me to read a small library I have zero interest hahaha.
@@ungoyone Ha! Still with RPGs, the DMG and PHB were almost like sacred texts. It was a whole world our parents didn't understand, which was great. Nowadays parents play it for nostalgia heh :)
Thief will always hold a very special place in my heart. Hell, I even named one of my son's Garrett. I still install it every year and do a playthrough on it.
Thief 1&2 have been the reason I bought a Creative Soundblaster card (EAX Sound was huge improvement at the time) and kept a Soundcard in my PCs ever since.
Good sound still seems somewhat overlooked by people even now with rather good onboard options around.
Always funny how others don't hear their opponents in multiplayer games as if they were deaf when you can hear them perfectly and surprise a sneaking enemy just because you still heard them ^^
People also blame bad microphones too much when sometimes integrated sound card is at blame when they could spend 5$ for USB sound card from Aliexpress which sounds better.
Fittingly enough, I'm watching this right after having just recently started Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines for the first time. I'm really glad immersive sims are coming back into the public eye, and thus far (I'm only about 20 minutes in) this video seems to be a pretty good crash course on their history
Kril I’m so jealous of you mate, I wish I could start VTMB fresh again :P
If you can forgive a bit of a clunky combat system, you’re in for a real treat.
Same here^^
Make sure you patch it up good and proper, you don't want to suffer through the vanilla game with all of its bugs
It you replay go Malkavian; you'll love it
I remember getting my avatar pissed all over by a pissing dude animation by accidentally glitching into him ah fun times.
For everyone who wants to start playing that game too: Buy it on GOG, it comes with the patch already installed there.
I gotta give you big props man, your videos are damn near the best in gaming. I love how you tackle more niche and thought provoking subjects and I can tell u approach every video with a painstaking attention to detail. So much research. Deserve a lot more viewership :)
That cliffhanger. Oh boy.
In general, I have to say I really enjoy your videos. Not only quality wise and the amount of work you put in. But also your taste in games. So naturally, a lot of topics I find quite interesting and well executed.
Keep up the good work man!
Thanks man!
Your long form videos are first class. You're on my shortlist of top tier video game commentators, and that's a list with only five people on it.
Spoony flew off the deep end, but his Ultima retrospective will always be my favorite content on the internet. Can't tell you how many times I've watched it from start to finish.
I like game critique channels like Joseph Anderson, Mandalore Gaming, Indigo Gaming, Noah Caldwell-Gervais, Raycevik or GVMERS...when i clicked on video of yours that YT suggested to me, it took me 10 seconds to add your channel to my favorites. You are up there. Just keep going. Good things come to those that push.
Thanks for that :)
>doesn't include sseth
@joshice chryzanthem He mentioned his second channel.
you should check out Jacob Geller. he doesn't really do critiques to be exact, but his video essays are the best i've ever seen.
@@ashmitpattnayak8060 🤮
Immsersive sims are my favorite genre, I loved hearing the history of them! Can't wait for part 2!
Arx Fatalis is best game I ever played to date. Still waiting for sequel.
You gave me a new found appreciation for these kind of games and I'm thoroughly enjoying Prey now, which I never played before because of mixed reviews at the time.
Love those character damage scene transitions during the introduction
Always been a fan of immersive sims and honestly this is one of the most informative and well-arranged videos I've ever watched. Great job!
Glad to see the Dark Sun: Shattered Lands footage in here, that game was such an awesome precursor to Baldur's Gate and later party-based RPGs
Damn, this video is a tour-de-force of history and commentary. Well done, man.
This video and it's incredibly professional style is as close to the classic G4 show Icons that I've found since it went off the air.
Absolutely solid work and as far as I can see, one of the only in-depth documentaries about this genre available on this site. Thank you so much for putting this together. It must have been an insane amount of work.
And I know this isn't the most popular genre on the planet, but I'm genuinely surprised this doesn't have more views
excellent stuff man. can't wait for the rest.
It is depressing how nothing, absolutely NOTHING, has been able to match the feel of Thief ever since the first time that drunk guard had his key stolen. Just how hard is it actually? To make a good stealth system? To build those AI states? To reward exploration in open ended environments? To actually focus on the stealth and remind the player this isn't -Doom with swords- Hexen but sneaky? To require the player to truly think on how to approach each challenge? To steep the player in the tension of being caught and the tension of escape? To reward ingenuity and make you think you beat the game mechanics (but didn't exploit a glitch)? There is so much they could iterate on to make a true spiritual sequel to Thief (and not be that arcadified AAA drivel we got, or the bipolar nature of Dishonored with its combat).
It is a damned shame.
the first 3 splinter cell games are what you're looking for. 15 years old but still play and look amazing
It's not that hard, but no one will do it. To match the feel of Thief you need to remove a lot of player agency and power and that means cutting your target audience. Because 14 yo and people on the same level of mental development as them do not understand that the reward is sweeter if you need to actually try to get it, they just want to feel powerful and bust some asses, they don't want to run around the corridor from one guard.
In this video that was a talk about how giving player more choices is a good thing, but the developers from Loooking Glass were right in that it will make gameplay unfocused. Deus Ex is a great game, but if you compare the stealth aspect of it to Thief's, the latter wins. It is precisely because Thief has a lot less options. Garret is weak, he can be killed by a single guard and most of the time your only weapons are stealth and ingenuity, you can't just go "oh well, stealth approach failed, now i fill enemies with lead and proceed with my objective". And that is one of the things that makes Thief great as stealth game
Besides it's more profitable to make a pretty picture without substance and put more than half of the budget to a marketing campaign. And since a lot of publishers now go with the "one or two big surefire hit a year" instead of developing and publishing multiple games they of course would want to go a path of elast resitance and most profits.
So you will probably not see a good stealth game outside of perhaps some indie titles.
@@midnightxsquid4117 I had a Splinter Cell on my game cube and couldn't get into it at all. It had dozens of mechanics just thrown into your face off the bat and it was difficult to figure out, I just didn't want to give it the time.
They are similar in how they employ light and sound in gameplay, but other than that not so much. Early ones feature railroaded levels that very much feel like video game levels and whilst third one had some open ended, organic feeling missions you still had limited incentive to explore them due to lack of anything like Thief's loot.
Dishonored is the closest thing to Thief in many ways, tho it's stealth isn't nearly as good and is more like Deus Ex' stealth.
@@manfredarcane9130 Strat has a video on Dishonored and iirc it makes a good point about how the game couldn't decide what it wanted to be, thus why combat AND stealth are both pretty meh, so save yourself the frustration and just go combat heavy. Has a good critique over the issues of the Thief reboot, too. I will say one thing in facor of the reboot, however. That stealthy dash move was an amazing idea and I really hope we see more of those kinds of iterations in any future would-be Thief spiritual successors and sequels.
My dad's copy of Pool of Radiance was amazingly fun even in my day. classic
this, Jrpgs and Metroidvanias are my soul
Like a Dark Soul.
@@merttuncer1788 weçç I rly liked DS1. Yeah I guess it is kind of a metroidvania
0:54 when you swing the explosive sword
If Gary Gygax is the Stan Lee of D&D, Dave Arneson was its Jack Kirby.
Very cool. The memories while watching this, just wow!!! I really appreciate that blast from the past. Amazing how important aome of these titles are. Its... historical. Not sure what elae to say. Thanks :)
You keep getting better at grabbing the soul of what it has taken to discern the difference between gamer and hardware, and the important evolution that is at play when we watch our favorite hobby surpass every expectation.
Love the inmersive sims documentary you've done. I've downloaded this and listened while i go to my girlfriend's house, along with other works you've done here on youtube. You deserve more subscribers.
Presentation and writing here remind me of ahoy, which is an indicator of some real quality. Well done.
"mad chads magical shoppe" truly ahead of its time.
Great vid, looking forward to part 2! There was a story during development of Ultima 7 where one of the smaller characters fit between the bars of a gate that needed a key, and subverted a quest requirement. It was found during testing and the bug made it's way up to Lord British, where he decided to keep it, because it allowed a novel way to solve the quest at hand. During U7 development, there was a conscious attempt to provide at least two ways to solve each quest, although they fell a little short. Definitely a little more RPG than proto-sim, but another strand of the same design movement, I think.
I was about to mention this as well, since i love the story. There's an interview with Warren Spector where he talks about it:
“I'll tell you a story. I was working on Ultima VI and I was watching one of the testers play one day. He was in a place in the game where you needed a magic spell to succeed to keep going; it was a place where there was a portcullis between you and a lever that would open the portcullis. He came up on one side and he didn't have the telekinesis spell necessary to flip the lever, so I was sitting there going, 'you're screwed buddy - you're not making any progress now.' What he did was - he had a character in his party named 'Sherry the Mouse' - and the portcullis was simulated just deeply enough that there was a gap at the bottom, and he had Sherry the Mouse go under the portcullis, go to the lever, and flip the lever, raising the portcullis. That was a solution to a problem that Richard and I didn't plan. I fell on the floor, and I thought "I'm gonna do that on purpose for the rest of my life.""
@@Resopheed Nice, thanks for the details, I guess I misremembered it being from Ultima 7.
You're welcome! I've heard him tell that story a million times, but I never get sick of it.
That specific exerpt is from this really interesting interview, where he talks about his time at Origin: th-cam.com/video/ocZeFHODBhY/w-d-xo.html
One of my favorite genres
This Genre needs all the support we can give
Just like "roguelite", "immersive sim" isnt so much a genre, as a design trait
EDIT: changed "roguelight" to "roguelite" . sorry for the mix up
(except roguelike was a genre)
Well, it is actually a genre of games. "Roguelite" is the term you might be looking for.
Okay but can we acknowledge the point of this comment - that "immersive sim" is a design trait rather than a genre?
@@SARKLEY how are Binding of Isaac, FTL and Rogue Legacy the same genre?
and what makes Skyrim an rpg instead of an immersive sim? what makes Deus Ex an immersive sim rather than an rpg?
karottenkoenig yep, it's more like a design ethos rather than a genre.
I've seen a lot of videos about the history of immersive sims but never one that went so far back in time as their origins in ttrpgs. This has been very educational, thank you!
cRPGs and AD&D was, is and always shall be where my heart is
Good video! This is the kind of channel I'd like to see have more success on TH-cam.
It is unfortunate that youtube hates my channel :(
@@StratEdgyProductions I've noticed a lot of the stuff I'm subbed to NEVER shows up on my home page. If I didn't go to my subs section I'd never know about a lot of videos from creators I like.
To me it seems obvious TH-cam plays favorites, whether through the way their algorithm is configured or through more blunt means. And thoughtful gaming content is NOT in their good list.
@@StratEdgyProductions you got recommended to me though, youtube AI chan is doing a great job recently !
Truly a fascinating genre. Fantastic video btw, eagerly waiting for part 2!!!
Ah, TSR, good times! Though all I remember of the games was the elaborate anti-piracy method: The wheel!
At 37yo I played both System Shock games for the first time last year back to back and I'm only beginning to get over how good of an experience that was. Granted I can't get enough of being stranded on various derelict space stations in general, both games were outstanding.
I have seen some criticism of SS1's labyrinthic floors but since they let you put your own points of interest on the map in both games it was not really a problem in the sense that meticulously planned and methodical exploration was a real joy. Come cross splitting paths? No problem, drop a POI there come back later. Oh here''s a secret door, drop a POI come back later. Don't have the code to this door? Drop a POI and so on...
It did NOT make the game easier, it just made it less annoying and actually improved pacing. I rarely see this feature mentioned despite how important it was for SS1 especially.
if I had to find my way out of that situation you can bet your ass I would have had to take some notes and the game let you do that. Absolutely brilliant design that I wish more games would allow you to do. Let me put my own POIs on your map.
man these videos really help with my insomnia
This channel is simply amazing.
I am always on the lookout for video games documentaries/essays channels on TH-cam, and I've watched a lot of content through the years. I am really excited to bump into this channel, it really surprises me it is not more popular on TH-cam. This video alone is very well put together and informative.
I am just happy to know there are hidden gems like this on TH-cam :)
This channel is gonna get much more subscribers very soon, I guarntee it
Man, just tremendous essays. If there’s per chance a bibliography of sources for the anecdotes and history, I would eat it up.
Time to binge this series again
Amazing content. Can't wait for part 2!
I'm a simple man. I see Garrett(even if it's not proper garrett) in the tumbnail and I click the video.
Dude wtf such an underrated channel
"In the pub was last seen Dale, the Food he ate was more than stale."
"Loved the women dashing Kurt, with the wrong one did he flirt."
Man, you HAD to use godawful Thief 2014 for your thumbnail?
Great video btw.
Im more disturbed that he used Deus Ex Revision footage instead of the actual game.
@John Doe I agree. I can't get over how awful JC, Paul, and Walton Simons look with the Revision mod.
Isn't that thief Deadly Shadows?
That isnt thief 2014 tard.
Dark sun shattered lands, I though I was the only person left who remembered that game.
Hands down best channel regarding video games! And yes, immersive Sim is my favourite genre besides rpgs. Just finished deus ex for the 10th time I think 😂
dude, great work!
a documentary like this was needed and you made it! that's great!
i'm subscribing and off to the Part 2!
Gygax was a hunter? Man I miss him even more now.
Man, i just love videos like these. Please do more!
Great video. I love Splinter Cell too but it is misleading to suggest it is immersive sim or that stealth genre is a sub genre of immersive sims. Much better to explicitly state that games like Splinter Cell borrowed immersive elements, incorporating dynamic environments allowing for free form gameplay
But I would also say like Metal Gear it walks the line between stealth and action. To my knowledge this started with Chaos Theory (again I could be wrong) and continued with later releases.
I love that Romero made Spector's dream a reality, even if Daikatana, his own game, turned out so shitty. If we ever wake up in an alternate reality regarding the production of Deus Ex in Ionstorm, it just varies in that there's a publicity campaign with the slogan "Warren Spector is going to make you his wife"
I enjoyed your documentary,and look forward to part 2. Oh, and piracy has done more for developers than most would ever admit.
Amazing! loved every minute of it. please keep churning out content, I shall consume them indefinitely :)
lol splinter cell.. i still remember that game just because of a random storage closet in one of the levels with a light switch.. you could turn it on and off so fast with a guard spotting you that he would be stuck in a constant loop of alerting but never being able to spot you.
Great video. Can't wait for 3.
Just spent the whole night playing the first deus ex game and after playing 23+ hours and beating the two prequel games, I’m ready to say that it is the best game series of all time! Tell me I’m wrong
I've been playing video games for 32 years and immersive sims are now the only games I like. No need VR to get immersion, just creativity and passion.
Heart attack at 36 O.o Damn. Understandable that the wife had a rough time "/
Please do the future of Immersive sims too, especially considering the upcoming RPG like CP2077 that aims to be as immersive as possible.
To be honest though, I'm not sure Cyberpunk 2077 will embrace the Immersive Sim philosophy, to me for the moment it looks more like a futuristic first person GTA, but I might be wrong we'll see when the game comes out.
@medigilclafouti Considering how CDPR changed the description of the game from RPG to Action Adventure, I'm very concerned about it. Then again, I've never been impressed at CDPR's attempts at RPGs.
This didn’t age well
@@LimewaterMusic what didn't age well?? the game is actually indeed a great immersive sims RPG in terms of core designs itself.
@@crozraven Not really my dude.
Hey, nice video as always. Really cool hear and saw some classic games getting some praise, waiting for the second part. Greetings from Brazil.
What a cool video about a cool genre that doesn't get enough love.
The music is always on point in is video
The Marvel Super Heroes RPG... My dad played that back in the 80s...
Your comment makes me feel old! I saw the game on the shelves as a kid. 🤣
@@MrKeech666 I mean, I found it on the shelves of my dad's childhood room...
Great video, I really enjoyed it. It's always nice to stroll down the memory lane and remember the classics. I do have one question, though... those Dark Sun: Shattered Lands clips in the beginning weren't put there by accident, did they? Here's hoping you will make a video about the SSI Dark Sun games (especially the first game in the series). I still think they were the true 'missing link' between the PC RPGs of the early to mid 90s, and the renaissance brought by Baldur's Gate later on.
I'm thinking at some point I will do an RPG retro.
@@StratEdgyProductions Would love to see it. Keep up the good work :)
40:32 That fall was great
Really good video, I thoroughly enjoyed it!
It would be a nice addition if you showed a picture of the person you talk about every time you do, because it's a bit hard to remember who that guy was when being introduced to so many new people at once. I'm terrible with names, but good with faces.
Looking forward to part 2!
How did they not get sued by the Tolkien Estate for "Akallabeth"?
Underworld completely blew my mind when it came out. I spent hundreds of hours in those dungeons.
Thief as well... it was sublime.
Good video about some of the best games ever made.
I'd like a video on Simulation gaming if you get the time.
At one point in the early 90s-early 00s Simulation, a genre that had came with massive manuals, requiring demanding systems, and peripherals like joysticks and flight pedals were the major block buster genre of PC. Mech Warrior, X-Wing, Wing Commander, Freespace, Tachyon, and the Jane series of Flight, Tanks, and Submarine titles were stables in nearly everyone's PC library and seemingly overnight the genre died. Some even cite Freespace 2's release of 1999 with it's perfect scores and awards for graphics, story, and effects flopping in sales as the moment the genre died.
The idea was studios said "Freespace 2 was perfect and we're not going to do better than that, so if it flopped..."
thanks for your great work, taffer.
1992 my family got a Macintosh with 4mb of ram and it was a 2k$ computer. Later we upgraded to 8mb. I don’t remember people have hundreds of mb ram til a few years later
Well if your a fan a thief and thief 2,
Thief 2X is a fun add-on. It's basically thief 2 but a new hero, new story, new levels, new cutscenes, but same great gameplay.
Can't wait for part 2.
Good job man. Truly good work. Also the fact that you played all those games without having an aneurysm. xD I couldn't.
Even though this isn't the place for it, I wish Hammerfell was remade to today's graphics. As insane as it would to be, having unique dungeons, hundreds of towns to visit, and amazing story would be fantastic. But coming from TES5 would be impossible at this time.
Love your channel!
Let's not forget that you can buy space shuttles star fighters and blaster cannons in Ultima 1 :P
algorithm brought me here, good stuff
Really strong work. I'm looking forward to part two.
And now we have the masterpiece of kingdom come.
Theoretical masterpiece. Me and all my friends accidentally broke the game by overlevelling and getting gear too good too soon - all by accident just exploring the world between story missions.
Thank you I was searching for this comment haha, to give you a context I litterally bought a $2000 PC just to play this game. Finished my first playthrough in normal mode, I plan to get back to it and start in hardcore this time and do all the DLCs :)
@@megasuperhyperspeed the game design is flawed, but the accomplishement is out of this world, especially for an indie studio !
also, if they manage to do better with the next iteration, holy shiet my dude !
@@deus_nsf don't get me wrong it's an amazing game in so many aspects and i really did love my time with it. It's just one of those games where you as a player have to make a deliberate effort to play in a certain way to make the game fun. As a fan of immersive sims in general i played like this for a long time, it's just hard to resist quite obvious methods of making your character overpowered. But i agree, if they iron out the kinks in the sequel it'll be mind blowing!
@@megasuperhyperspeed how is that broken? Its realistic. Its why a full set of plate could cost as much of a house and why people bought it. And why knights practised as much as they can and experienced ones were so valued.
A wonderful trip through my games collection. Yeah, still have my 3 little DnD booklets, though they're in pretty bad shape. Ultima! Loved it.
Great video, cant wait for your part 2
I missed this whole period in PC games and my exposure to Thief and Deus Ex were largely just my one #PCMasterRace friend talking about how they were incomparable to any other game, and were like.. life defining.
At the time I couldn’t even run Total Annihilation on my PC so it wasn’t really an option for me to check these games out. But after waking up to this style of game at Oblivion’s console release, immersive first person games and RPGs have become an obsession.
Interestingly enough, Half Life 2 also played a huge role in this. Half Life 1 was amazing, but the feeling of the opening scenes of HL2, the imprisonment, the escape, and the long period you don’t even have a gun at the beginning of the game was a feeling I wanted a LOT more of out of games. It’s a shame there’s so few games that scratch that itch.
Here’s hoping Cyberpunk 2077 can live up to some of what the original Deus Ex games brought.
Thank u for displaying the name of the game being shown do know how many creators fail to do this.
Loving the Ahoy style
Call me crazy, but I honestly feel like the Immersive Sim genre wasn't made to fail or something, but was just way too far ahead of it's time and gaming as a whole was just not ready for it, and we are starting to enter a golden era of games influenced by those game design philosophies.
Those aren't games for everyone that's for sure, but just Kingdom Come proved by itself, despite it's massive problems and an actual low score on Steam Reviews, that there is definitely a market for those kind of games.
Also STALKER still being massively played more than 10 years after it's release and massively modded.
funny i too think of kingdom come as a kind of immersive sim, as aside from stats therre really isnt much roleplaying, but dear god is it a fantasticly immersive game
Really enjoyed this. Well presented and informative. Thank you.
Where's Arx Fatalis? It was a game reminiscent of Ultima Underworld, and the studio went on to create the Dishonored franchise, which inherited the Thief / Deus Ex legacy and popularized it.
I'm here in a timely manner this time around, what luck lol
I love the immersive sim aspect of tabletop RPGs