David Archuleta: Permission to Make Mistakes
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- David Archuleta ( American Idol , OK, All Right Tour, author of My Little Prayer ) opens up about discovering his sexual identity and the aspects of his religion he continues to hang onto as he navigates it. David discusses how taking time to step back from his musical career to go on his mission amidst fears he was sabotaging his career and an urge to keep American Idol fans proud of him led to deep introspection and transformation. After Mayim breaks down the process of dissociation as a coping mechanism, David details what it felt like to fight his attractions, the isolation that comes with carrying a huge secret, and the process of finally confronting his feelings. He recalls the unexpected reaction his church elder had after he opened up about his sexuality, what he thinks God wants for his life, and the responses he’s received since coming out. Mayim considers the value of getting to know oneself and David reveals the song that came to him in a dream.
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Mayim does a phenomenal job interviewing someone who has beliefs different than her own. She is very respectful and I appreciate that. And David is admirably open and compassionate. Great video!
I completely agree. She is thoughtful, respectful and intelligent. Love her interviews!
Mayim’s husband was LDS before he converted to Judaism, so she may have had a little additional insight on this one.
@@howieroarke yes good point. And she probably has in laws who are LDS...
The statement, “The God of my understanding wants me to know myself and to not feel shame or sadness about the way that I am.” So profound for me and makes me feel more comfortable about who I am and my relationship with God. Thank you Mayim and David, both, for enlightening me and providing your perspectives.
I am a member of the LGBTQIA COMMUNITY and a man of faith in God. God made you to be you. Love yourself, cause if you don't you can't love anyone else.
It's heartbreaking to learn how much he has struggled.. I hope David continues to grow in acceptance of himself. You deserve to experience love David! A beautiful person inside and out. ❤️
I still get the impression he is in massive denial that he is a gay man.Having sex or not doesn't change your sexuality.You can believe in G-d and forgo the rubbish man-made paradigm that really has nothing to do with
G-d.
I'm part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate this interview. Mayim, thank you so much for providing a safe and understanding space for David to talk about his faith, identity and mental health. Just like the LGBTQIA+ faces a lot of negativity sometimes, so do people of faith, and not every interview about that is as uplifting and enlightening as this one. Thank you! I love it!
ur prophet raped kids lol
Yeah, people of faith in the U.S. are so persecuted, especially Christians. I feel ya. Christians are so put down and people are so negative about them. It makes it hard to practice your faith, huh? Because like there are so many barriers. Like sometimes…I just don’t wanna be here anymore. I think things like “If being a Christian is so wrong to the majority, then maybe I just shouldn’t exist.” Ya know what I mean? < /s >
As an LDS person, I’m SO grateful that such a public figure is exploring this in a somewhat public way. We see people who don’t get to explore all the time in this community. Thank you- and please keep doing interviews like this!
I love that David had a very innocence of explaining and sharing his struggles with his sexuality and openess as he explains.
This conversation is a MUST SEE for anyone with questions about their own sexuality and identity AND for anyone who calls themself a Christian or a follower of a religious faith that has strong (negative) opinions about anything outside of the heteronormative culture. That Mayim and David come from such different religious places but can converse with such maturity and grace for each other's differences is a refreshing example for society.
I love Mayim's explanation of, "there is no psychological thought that exists without a physical component, and if you need drugs or alcohol to have sex then it indicates you aren't really feeling safe or comfortable."
This made my day. David is such a genuine and personable man, so happy for him. Thank you Miss B!
I didn’t know anything about David, other than his magical voice, and now I have a crush on him because of how sweet and genuine he is 🥰 I loved this conversation!!
I was surprised at how spiritual his perspective is, which says that my understanding of this religion is that it is more about restrictions and rules than love for your fellow man so, I was heartened by the response from his Elder when he "came out". When I watched him on American Idol my first response was "He is so repressed". Now my response is , "He is so thoughtful and a very deep thinker." I love his relationship with God. He makes me want to slow down my response to life in general and connect with spirit more.
We were raised from little children with the teachings of Christ, that being loving is the most important thing... But that is often lost in the disconnect that happens with culture and dogma. Those who sat through primary being taught the basics of the gospel and really gravitated to that, are mortified by how culture is the opposite of everything Christ taught. I love when David shares his perspectives because it is very similar to my own. I'm also happy there are some leaders out there who do not traumatize the people who come out to them.
I don't want to discredit his experience but I feel like he only got acceptance from his Bishop because of his celebrity. I myself was Mormon for 17 years and have done much much deep dive research since the 10 years that I've been out and his experience I will not discredit but is not the norm of what many Mormons go through in this "religion"
@@TrevorThatBandanaGuy while I’m sure you’re correct that many had poor experiences, I’ve attended baptisms of openly gay men, as well as gone through temple sessions with an openly gay man, so there is a huge spectrum of acceptance and love.
@@mchatcher you might want to go do some research because the church sex acceptance of homosexuals but if you look through the history they were doing shock therapy at BYU of homosexuals and just recently if you want to look at Northstar that is a gay conversion therapy center that the church was a part of where they had naked men cuddling parties to try to combat homosexual urges so the church likes to think that they're approving of gay people and they're not actually and if you want to look at statistics why don't you look at the suicide rate of Utah among the LGBTQ community. And the funny thing is if these experiences or just one off things why is it happening all over the world in the Mormon churches before you open your mouth you should probably do some more research. If you'd like I can give you a link to the rundown of the history starting with the inception of the church until 2021 of how the church is anti gay
@@mchatcher Megan you might want you look into what acceptance means because I guarantee you the people that you've met in the church that are openly gay that you say are highly pressured because I'm not going to say forced because I know that you're going to take issue with the word Force so highly pressured into living a celibate life or entering into a mixed orientation marriage. And I guarantee you that they are going through internal struggle because the pressure of the church saying that they are wrong and that they should be asking for forgiveness from God and that because if they act on their gay feelings but they will not be entered into the highest Kingdom.
I joined the church at 18 to marry my way into a hetero life, had 3 kids, and left at 38 when I met my wife. Being LDS doesn't make the feelings go away. I learned that the hard way. You live your true self, David! I'm so much more happy now than I was then. 12 years out and happy!! XOXO❤️
Hello 👋 how are you doing today?.
@Andi Dweyer that's because mormons dont believe in Jesus, therefore they dont have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them to help overcome sin.
@@tonyahansen2188 The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints actually do believe in Jesus. It's in the name.
@@alyssasheridan3779 father God? The son Jesus? And the Holy spirit?
@@tonyahansen2188 yes
I’m LDS and I’ve loved this interview. Thank you, David for sharing your experience, and thank you Mayim for asking great questions to have this much needed conversation.
Read the CES letter and head over to Mormon stories and look at the book of Abraham podcast.
@Russell M. Nelson Pretending to be someone else online is not very cool.
Same. ❤️
@@rachaelenglish348The CES letter is edited in a misleading way, and Mormon Stories makes a *TON* of money exploiting people who have a genuine faith crisis. I am so profoundly disappointed in both
@@tommacari4103 I hope the irony of you mentioning Mormon Stories' finances is not lost on you considering the LDS church is hoarding 100 billion tax-free dollars while covering up child sex abuse and guilt tripping members into cleaning its buildings for free.
It'd be interesting to revisit this conversation with David today, specially after the last talk Nelson gave on the October conference 2023.
I saw David at The State in Modesto, CA. It took him a minute to get comfortable being on stage, but within an hour, he finally let loose and was AMAZING! I’m so happy he is embracing his uniqueness!
Thank God for David Archuleta
My Little Prayer is my absolute favorite song, I listen to it every day. I'm so proud of you David, keep being great.
I really appreciate how open David was in this interview. The part of the interview that stood out for me was when David talked about how we just assume every person in the LGBTQIA+ community has an outgoing personality.
I love David and totally support his journey as he struggles with how to reconcile his attractions and identity with his faith.
David had an AMAZING MP. My friend went to his Bishop and was sent to his Stake President. Now, my friend had never acted out as a gay man. They still excommunicated him. He is now living his best life without the judgements of the church.
David is so rad!! His songs “My little prayer” and “Be still my soul” have helped me feel Heavenly Father’s love through difficult trials and losses 🙏🏻. Thank you for sharing your light, David!
i wll have to check them out thanks, but rn i got a bunch open including this podcasts playlist maybe i well put this video in my glbt group to remember
What An Amazing man is David Archuleta. There is no shame in being true to yourself David. I learned this long ago. You will never be free unless you are true to yourself. God made us the way we are and if I knew I was different at age 3 then I'd say we were created this way. I am so proud of you and I know you don't care that I say that but you have been so brave and you are still loved by so many even me. Mayim I have always loved your character in the BIG BANG. I thought to myself I have known people like this in my life. Bless you, for having this channel and having David Archuleta live on your program. I love him to pieces. He has the voice of an ANGEL.
He's the sweetest person in this world 😍
Yes! David! .. You did a great job helping me feel compassion for those different from me. Being LDS, I don’t want anyone to slander our religion but you have made me want to be better. What a testimony builder…
Perhaps as LDS, we are trying too hard to pretend there isn’t a very serious underlying issue here. So important to be honest for our LGBTQ youth.
Letter to my Wife, Rough Stone Rolling.
I am also active LDS, and I'm listening/watching in Utah, to Mayim.
There’s something beautifully open, naive, eager, reserved about David. His smile draws you in. Enjoyed this conversation between the three of you.
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This is a great one. I didn’t watch American Idol either - but at the time I had just moved away from living in Salt Lake City so I was very aware of who he is. I am a lesbian, a returned missionary for the Mormon church and a former Mormon. I asked to have myself excommunicated from the church when I came out because philosophically I could not resolve the conflicts between the church doctrine and my own views. Very interesting subject / guest.
Hello 👋 how are you doing today?.
Good for you! That had to be a very difficult decision for you.
I appreciate your comments. I am however sad that you felt your need to leave the church.
I have no desire to upset or offend you in anyway. I have thought about this a lot, I have tried to come up with differences and the only thing that comes to my mind is, there are straight people who never get married, who abstain from sexual relations. Their feelings and attractions are just as real as yours. Just as those who are straight and single, there are many who have same sex attraction who also abstain who stay in the church. God still defines marriage as man and women. You can’t change gods law just because society chooses to Redefine it. Remember gods laws are eternal, mans are temporary.
Again, I appreciate your comments
@@trishachristensen2238 God didn’t define anything. Men who claimed to speak for God defined it. Just stop.
@@jonpoulda3362 uh, yes he did and no I won’t stop. I believe in truth. You will never convince me otherwise. You will have to take that up with God.
David is a great communicator.
I love this interview. Mayim is kind and insightful. David is sweet, open and honest in sharing his journey. Thank you both.
My husband is in his 50s and I am in my 40s. We met later in life.
Thank you for going into this. It explains a lot
It’s not just about how often we are intimate. Or just about sex. I have a low libido and he is very understanding. Thanks for helping me understanding more about relationships. It was life changing
David has helped me so much since he came out. I felt/feel just as he did about my sexuality. I was never accepting of myself being gay because of what I was taught in church and because of society. Hearing him speak his truth has lit a light inside me that I never had before. I’ve still got some things to accept about myself, and I know I will in time. Thank you Mayim, and THANK YOU DAVID. Love and peace to you.
@David C I think David was very fortunate in the the Elder with whom he shared his feelings about himself. That is very unusual in the Mormon Church. Bishops can be very cruel to those who don't follow the Mormon norm of "straight is the only acceptable way", and chastity is essential before marriage. Mormons are required to confess to masturbation, looking at porn and any intimate touching of a boy/girlfriend. They are punished severely for such acts. I suspect the church is going easy on David because they hope Mormon girls will love him and the alarming haemorrhage of young people, leaving the Church, will stop.
@@elizabethgrogan8553 I disagree completely with your statement. I'm sorry you had negative exprence(s).
@@elizabethgrogan8553 “punished severely”...as in your bishop tells you “God still loves you, let’s pray and work on this repentance process”. Like what punishment lol. Repentance is not about punishment, but reconciling yourself to God. Sin in its basic form means to turn away from God, so repentance is turning back. I personally think you have a very perfectionist “can’t make a mistake” perspective on things, but the truth is that Jesus died for our sins to raise us up bc He knew we’d make mistakes + fall. So please let this mindset go, it’s not a part of our faith, you don’t have to carry it.
@@prettymermaid2117 let’s pray about what? Changing something you can’t change? Suppressing something that shouldn’t be suppressed?
David’s struggle is a good example of the extreme mental health damage that can occur in churches/religious settings.
@@soberanisfam1323 Praying about repentance. To be on good terms with God is happy, repentance isn’t a punishment. Stop projecting your anger over something I never said..read in actual context. Every thought group has pros + cons. Not just religion.
What an awesome feeling to just be accepted...we need more of that in this world! ❤
Thank you so much for these wonderful podcasts Mayim, there are amazing and so much fun to watch!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Mayim, You my dear, should have your own network talk show. It was so nice to hear someone who can use polysyllabical words correctly and has the brain and IQ to justify and do it. You are one of the best interviewers, ever!! Please get it going my dear!!
I can’t even pronounce polysyllabical 😂
Another great episode! I really enjoyed the conversation afterwards a lot as well. Great dialogue and insights. Thanks!
An amazing interview and topic. One of the best I’ve ever heard.
Spectacular! So grateful for this interview and to find your podcast. You both are amazing! Finally David’s experiences are very much mirrored to what I experienced over my many years of life! This will recommended to everyone! Thank you both!!!
Love this episode ❤️ Jonathan you are a joy to listen to. I truly appreciate your perspectives and wisdom.
What an amazing, beautiful conversation. Thank you Mayim for hosting this. We need many many more. Love David.
What a wonderful young man
So happy that you continue to "Listen to Him" ❤❤❤
Oh my word. I love his testimony! Love that dream! Thanks for sharing
Loved every minute of your conversation! I'm a long time fan of David's and I'm glad more people are getting to see the deep, old soul he is -- along with that angelic voice! -- he's the real deal. So are you, Mayim, loved your thoughtful questions, insights and hilarious asides! (Jonathan's too!!)
What an excellent interview!
Mayim does a fantastic job interviewing David. Thank you to David for being candid about his experience. Perhaps a book in David’s future. Thank you for posting the interview on TH-cam!
Thank you, Mayim for your beautiful perspective and gifted interview skills as David shared so openly and vulnerably.
Mayim, you look great and I'm so proud of you. I did come to the TH-cam channel to watch. Great thing that I have both options depending on my daily schedule. Love you both!! XOXO
I love this. Thank you for doing this interview. I have always liked David but I like him even more now. Mayim I love your ability to interview so professionally
Wow! So great episode! Really intelligent and deep thought conversation, thank you very much!
So insightful. Love this interview. David seems so genuine and good. Happy to support him as a musician and a person. We are all special and unique in our own way. Thank you for such kind understanding words, wisdom, and a great interview!
Thank you for this podcast ❤️
Thank you David for sharing your life experiences on difficult things and being vulnerable. Thank you thank you thank you!!!
This is eye opening. Thank you. I am someone who doesn't understand these terms much but this helps understand those who feel different. We should all accept others for who they are regardless of gender, sex, race, religion or political views.
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We (the world) need more like you in the world 🌎, a person who tries to understand other peoples lives without discrimination. You're awesome,stay cool 😊❤️🙏✌️😎
“My Little Prayer” is one of my favorite songs!
Love you David 💖
That was the best intro for Jonathan! It melted my heart @mayim.
These are wonderful people. I loved this whole conversation.
I love this conversation. Thanks for inviting people of different backgrounds and having open conversations. This channel is so fun and helpful to listen to!
Best one yet!!!! Loved his spirit. These episodes are so helpful.
Hello 👋 how are you doing today?.
I just can’t believe the profound things I learn from Mayim in every episode I watch!
One of your best episodes every.
Thanks David for sharing your thoughts! Your integrity is hopeful and beautiful!
David is such an amazing person !!!
This was an incredible experience! One I didn't even realize I needed. Thank you for this and all your kind, exploratory, intelligent words and opening a door for discussion into finding and loving ourselves physically mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. Sorry for that sentence lol. But thank you!
Thanks so much. Awesome interview. Very lovely. I'm a huge fan of you
Good Morning Bialik. Thank You for touching base with us. The Gen Pub. I just started a small Archery Company this year and I am going through the painful get off the ground stage. You inspire me to carry on.
Thank you 🙏🥰 all, Mayim, Jonathan, & David. This was a fantastic interview that I've been enlightened by and loved every second of it. Please take care and be in excellent health. 💚😇
Wonderful conversation. David is a wonderful person with so much wisdom and so many great insights. I always love to hear what he has to say.
thank you Mayim for being so respectful towards the LDS faith. I really liked when you compared some of our practices with your own Jewish practices. I love to find the common ground between faiths and so it was very refreshing when you did this. I also appreciated the obvious research you made into the LDS faith because you knew quite a bit. thank you so much
This was such a insightful discussion!
David, thank you, thank you, thank you, for being yourself and sharing your light. I needed it today. 💜
Nice interview. David is the best. His concerts are super positive experiences. :)
Thank you both for this most awesome interview! The three of you are amazing human beings❤️🙏🌷
A very helpful and informative conversation!
I can’t express how much I enjoyed this podcast. Thank you so much.
This young man is a beautiful being.
such an outstanding episode! 👏
I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed your personality, Mayim. It's truly a pleasure to be surprised these days. I feel humbled after watching you, like I received a much needed refresher on what is most important to value in life. Not only because of what I learned that others gave to me, but also because of what resonates with me personally as truth that brings me peace, as I believe most people have ... that guidance that helps them to know how to connect with others, wether they believe our relation to others is familial in some way or just some kind of universal happenstance in the existence of creation.
Wow!! What a fantastic conversation!! David thank you for sharing your experiences and journey!
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This show is beneficial. Thank you.
Mayim I just want to say thank you for being so sweet and having such a wonderful lot of guests on your channel. You are also my favorite person due to your being so down to earth and knowledgeable. Thank you again. Blessings and Love and Happy Hanuka in 2022.
ALL RESPECTS TO THESE TWO BEAUTIFUL AND INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEINGS. FULL HEARTS!!!
I love David's personality since many years ago. Best wishes for him.
Thank you for this episode. I enjoyed hearing David talk about being on the Ace spectrum. As someone who figured out in the past year that I’m somewhere on the spectrum, it’s comforting to hear another person’s experiences.
Hello 👋 how are you doing today?.
My whole ace soul was very happy during this whole interview. I wish all the best to David.
FANTASTIC INTERVIEW!! Incredibly respectful, touching and insightful!! The mortal journey is real!! Mayim’s description of how nothing physical is also connected to the spiritual and nothing spiritual is free of the physical is spot on - and all too often overlooked!! David is deep ... when you give him time to process! ❤️😉❤️
I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints. Thank you David for being true and honest to yourself. The Lord is aware of your struggles for sure. No man is perfect. No member is perfect either. We are just like every other human being. You are so brave to speak out and I applaud you for sharing with us your personal insights and personal life on being gay. God bless.
Beautiful episode. I appreciate bringing faith into the discussion, this was a wonderful way to do it without making it either all good or all bad. Love the bit about making mistakes. In Jewish tradition, what's called sin is all about making mistakes, trying to "hit the mark," so to speak, but missing for whatever reason; then healing from those mistakes, both internally and with others, if necessary; and moving on. PS Mayim, you look fabulous.
Amazing. I so enjoyed this.
Mayim - I love 💗 embracing your “ religion “ and sovereignty!! ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🥰🥰😍😍😘😘😘
I enjoyed EVERY MINUTE of this.
Such great insightful interviewer and interviewee!!! I am LDS born & raised & I loved everything about this. Thank you, David, for sharing your journey, feelings & thoughts with us! And thank you, Mayim, for this awesome platform!!
It was so wonderful to hear from David Archuleta. I just do not know what to say. He was so welcoming.
Best interview so far.
I did not particularly like David before this interview but now I am his fan. Thank you David for being so sincere. Stay that way.
Thanks so much to David for being so open and honest and sharing his deep belief and faith! Beautiful, just beautiful!
Hello 👋 how are you doing today?.
Thank you for having David share his story!❤
Mayim, I knew I would want to hear what David had to say talking to you, because you would be talking with the person not to the image created around him. David it was a good choice to collaborate with Mayim because you are both committed to being your true selves and helping others, like me, to do the same. Thanks
Great interview and Mayim showed great respect for David's religion. In show notes, he divulges to his "mission President", not Elder. Thanks for the compassion and logical understanding of David's trials! Very impressed with your show!!
Thank you, all three of you. This talk/interview addressed so much more than sexuality. It helps anything you are willing to look at a little deeper. It’s okay to make mistakes. ❤️
You are soo perfect David!! I don't care who you love..but I sure love the person you are..along with your amazing music!!
I ❤❤❤ everything about this! I wish more people in the world would understand life like this.
Thank you so much for this episode. All three of you have given me, at least, much to ponder and consider. I have mental health issues that I struggle with on a daily basis and will be discussing this episode and some of the interesting points discussed at the very end, especially after the interview, with my therapist today. Thanks for giving me some more to consider. Really. Thank you, you have no idea how much this episode has helped.
Hello 👋 how are you doing today?.
I agree with your love the interview but the actual breakdown and further deeper discussion between Mayim and Jonathon is awesome!
I love being educated. Thank you for this open and honest heart in the form of David A. Wow. He blew me away. I got hit in the gut with this episode. I appreciate how Jonathan and yourself got to the heart of what this discussion was about. Self-acceptance and mental health go hand in hand. We weren't to talk about abuse when I was a young girl. I was told it didn't happen. Yes, that old story. As an adult I pushed every crisis down, every trauma down, every insult to my intelligence, every unkind word, every broken promise, every insult from family until the pandemic. Being in isolation for two years due to catching RSV, Influenza A and then COVID, what I call the perfect viral storm, stop me in my track's. My life changed dramatically on December 26, 2019. Right before COVID, I kept getting sick as a Mental Health Professional in the South Side of Chicago. Long story. My point is, these past two year's of life pause as I call it has forced me open. Open and God has shone a light into that void. Now, I try to practice what I used to preach. Prayer, meditation, mindfulness, so many freaking tears, long conversations with God and my opinion versus His (a nice way of saying, I've had some words for God.....). Only to learn that it's ok to break open, it's ok to shine the light in the dark space. It's ok to be real, whatever that real is to oneself. I'm still in my process, my pause so to speak. Thanks for this Podcast. I really appreciated it so much.
I meant to say, we weren't taught to talk about......
I love Jonathon's take on the mental health aspect of this; a belief in a higher power that "speaks through intuition". This is something I have long believed but never been able to put into words so concisely. Listen to your intuition; listen to that voice; question those things you are unsure about. Being open and honest with yourself about all aspects of life.
I tend to come and go with therapy, but in my last bout, coming to terms with feelings that I have long tried to suppress was the most freeing revelation I've had.
Definitely an episode I think I'll come back to, as I'm sure there's more for me to gain from another watch.
Keep doing what you're doing guys x